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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by GallantGalaxy: 8:05pm On Aug 02, 2017
I am a total novice so I will look around for a controller ask opinion on those.
EgunMogaji:


From my own due diligence, it's better to put together your own "starter" pack.

Start with a very good controller that can grow with you. The controller is the hub of the system and the ones that typically comes with the starter packs will be quickly outgrown by demand. Except of course you're powering an RV or shed.

My opinion is worth exactly what you paid for it.

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by desiji: 8:24pm On Aug 02, 2017
GallantGalaxy:
I am a total novice so I will look around for a controller ask opinion on those.
PWM no go, totally unacceptable if you are planning to upgrade in future.
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by Nobody: 8:24pm On Aug 02, 2017
GallantGalaxy:
I am a total novice so I will look around for a controller ask opinion on those.

You should include this channel as part of your research

https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCQhnGf9YGnXbbDwPWBUrLNQ

I think he lives in UK or does most acquisitions in UK and installs in Nigeria.

If I wasn't going to make a business out of solar then he is someone that I would have considered.

As far as controllers go, for me this is it http://www.sma-america.com/home-systems/overview.html but it's not cheap.
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by namelesss: 8:38pm On Aug 02, 2017
mufutau55:


Since you said you never see how they look like, below is how they look like...

1. HIP (Pitched Roof) style roof
2. Flat Style roof

Advantages and Disadvantages:

HIP Roof (Pitched Roof)
Cost More
Difficult to Repair and Clean due to it's height
More Structure and Stability
Reduces Heat because of height
Reduces Sound effect
Effective/Excellent Drainage of Water
Affordable in Long term
Longer life span
You can make use of the Attic space for storage etc.
Aesthetically appealing

Flat Roof
Cost less
Drainage not quite effective
Easily Clogged leading to damage and leaks (if not regularly inspected)
Easy to Clean and repair
Leakage if done properly from the onset
Practical if living in area with little rainfall

I am sure other people can add to the above.

Photos, compliments of: Fippycbk (one of our resident Architect here on Nairaland)

Hajji M.


Thanks alot for the info, He (my archi friend) actually showed me his own house under construction on his phone, with plan to use flat roof... from the looks of the plan the flat roof seem to be different and more eye catching...

Point taken from your post is to just go for the hip roof..
if i may ask, where is your base? And how do you normally work?
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by FastShipping: 9:03pm On Aug 02, 2017
namelesss:


Thanks alot for the info, He (my archi friend) actually showed me his own house under construction on his phone, with plan to use flat roof... from the looks of the plan the flat roof seem to be different and more eye catching...

Point taken from your post is to just go for the hip roof..
if i may ask, where is your base? And how do you normally work?

Hajj is now an architect.... grin grin grin

Hajj, please tell us how do you normally work.

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by Nobody: 9:06pm On Aug 02, 2017
FastShipping:


Hajj is now an architect.... grin grin grin

Hajj, please tell us how do you normally work.

The guy don't know sir.
I sent you WhatsApp messages, no response.
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by Nobody: 9:10pm On Aug 02, 2017
namelesss:


Thanks alot for the info, He (my archi friend) actually showed me his own house under construction on his phone, with plan to use flat roof... from the looks of the plan the flat roof seem to be different and more eye catching...

Point taken from your post is to just go for the hip roof..
if i may ask, where is your base? And how do you normally work?

Personally, and knowing what I know now, I would advise to go for a hip roof.

I have two flat roof structures on my site now that will be replaced by hip roof in the future when the materials have expired.

The work of a roof is to keep elements out of the house, and both types will do that. For me, the one to select is the one that will make the owner feel proud architecturally as you pull up after a hard day at work.

Good luck.
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by FastShipping: 9:10pm On Aug 02, 2017
segzy14:


The guy don't know sir.
I sent you WhatsApp messages, no response.

Sorry. I left Lagos since. My phone broke and I just bought a new phone. I will add your line shortly.

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by namelesss: 11:39pm On Aug 02, 2017
EgunMogaji:


Personally, and knowing what I know now, I would advise to go for a hip roof.

I have two flat roof structures on my site now that will be replaced by hip roof in the future when the materials have expired.

The work of a roof is to keep elements out of the house, and both types will do that. For me, the one to select is the one that will make the owner feel proud architecturally as you pull up after a hard day at work.

Good luck.

I really appreciate the input, I have decided to go with the hip roof... thanks

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by bixton(m): 11:42pm On Aug 02, 2017
EgunMogaji:


Personally, and knowing what I know now, I would advise to go for a hip roof.

I have two flat roof structures on my site now that will be replaced by hip roof in the future when the materials have expired.

The work of a roof is to keep elements out of the house, and both types will do that. For me, the one to select is the one that will make the owner feel proud architecturally as you pull up after a hard day at work.

Good luck.
Going by the bold, please how long does it take the materials to become expired?
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by Nobody: 11:47pm On Aug 02, 2017
bixton:

Going by the bold, please how long does it take the materials to become expired?


In my own personal judgement on my site I will consider it expired when it starts lifting, leakky, faded, etc

Frankly, I would rip the whole shyte off now and redo it but my Wife won't have anything to do with that. angry

Maybe Skimanski, AbdulWastecx, KolaShangOne might chime in. I've heard 35/50 years banded about on here.

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by bixton(m): 11:54pm On Aug 02, 2017
namelesss:


I really appreciate the input, I have decided to go with the hip roof... thanks
Save for the convincing consciousness, did you really thought out in the first instance to actually carry out a flat roof on your building?
Can you post your structure design here for all to see?
Please permit my curiosity.
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by mufutau55(m): 12:24am On Aug 03, 2017
FastShipping:

Hajj is now an architect.... grin grin grin
Hajj, please tell us how do you normally work.

Good thing is that I have never presented myself as an Architect or an Engineer. So I have no case to answer.
I left room so as to be corrected. But you are right though; what do I know.

Hajji M.

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by Nobody: 1:04am On Aug 03, 2017
Found this online while searching for a saw mill.

http://www.woermann-nigeria.com

Very nice.

Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by FastShipping: 1:20am On Aug 03, 2017
mufutau55:


Good thing is that I have never presented myself as an Architect or an Engineer. So I have no case to answer.
I left room so as to be corrected. But you are right though; what do I know.

Hajji M.

Just loliiiinnng here o

But the guy thought you're an architect based on your response. I know you ain't t an architect. grin
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by mufutau55(m): 1:22am On Aug 03, 2017
FastShipping:

Just loliiiinnng here o
But the guy thought you're an architect based on your response. I know you ain't t an architect. grin

May be I need to start issuing a "Disclaimer".

Done: Check my signature line.

Hajji M.

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by abbeyboy2o15(m): 2:11am On Aug 03, 2017
kopell:
Is nice to short those people that never have anything good to say about their
Country, may be many of them can not see beyond their noises. Because of the way many countries branded theirs. Flooding is not peculiar to lekki or Nigeria alone. Everyday people write shit about their place of birth, do you guys even know how many people been killed in USA every hour? In Chicago alone, I believe the killed more people then in a week then what boko haram kill in a month, when they are not even in war. That was only Chicago alone. How many of those do anyone of their citizens or big media house report. Talk of the entire USA, where guns are sold like candy in most places. Pls enough of this negativity about that country, I'm not saying everything is ok oh, but every county as it own internal crisis many people may not know, and will never know. Many of those countries will continue to brand their countries as the best, I can name few like Brazil and others.
That is how it is we blame government for everything, a person that dump waste on the road, spoil road with party food, clog rivers would all blame govt, without thinking of there own pathetic acts, althought govt is not saint, but individuals are the main spoilers of those little amenities.

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by Nobody: 2:24am On Aug 03, 2017
mufutau55:


May be I need to start giving a "Disclaimer".

Hajji M.

Oh how the mighty have fallen, "they" made you change your lovely and inspirational signature.

Sigh. Double sigh.
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by mufutau55(m): 3:53am On Aug 03, 2017
EgunMogaji:

Oh how the mighty have fallen, "they" made you change your lovely and inspirational signature.
Sigh. Double sigh.

Real problem.. after the fall... how am I going to feed my family now? smiley

Hajji M.

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by Nobody: 3:56am On Aug 03, 2017
mufutau55:


Real problem.. after the fall... how am I going to feed my family now?

Hajji M.

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by WorldAmbassador: 5:43am On Aug 03, 2017
EgunMogaji:
I don't understand the chest thumping about floods and flooding.

So because flood occurs in developed countries then it is okay for it occur in Nigeria?

Could we be the guiding light to show the world how it's supposed to be done? How flood can be planned for and controlled?

The fact is that natural disasters has no international boundary and limit. What humans can do is mitigate the risks and some countries do that better than others.

@EgunMogaji. I agree. I looked at the map of United States of America. Some states Like Texas as big as our country Nigeria..imagine that. We just don't invest our resources in flood control. Besides, we don't have winter storms, volcanoes, and earthquakes like most of these Western countries do.

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by johnson232: 5:59am On Aug 03, 2017
kopell:
Is nice to short those people that never have anything good to say about their
Country, may be many of them can not see beyond their noises. Because of the way many countries branded theirs. Flooding is not peculiar to lekki or Nigeria alone. Everyday people write shit about their place of birth, do you guys even know how many people been killed in USA every hour? In Chicago alone, I believe the killed more people then in a week then what boko haram kill in a month, when they are not even in war. That was only Chicago alone. How many of those do anyone of their citizens or big media house report. Talk of the entire USA, where guns are sold like candy in most places. Pls enough of this negativity about that country, I'm not saying everything is ok oh, but every county as it own internal crisis many people may not know, and will never know. Many of those countries will continue to brand their countries as the best, I can name few like Brazil and others.
I really don't understand this your comment
Seems it has been long u visited this country
U think anyone would want to tarnish his own?
This your countires not talking about their woes is wrong
If we are talking about a problem & the government isn't addressing it, is it when we keep mute about it government will address it?
Just tell me what is good about this country to cover up for the bad ones?
U dare compare nigerians meaningless killings by boko haram to USA killngs?
Yet all of u run to USA?
How many US citizens do u see fighting for visa to come to nigeria?
A conutry whose president reside in another country & whose children are graduates of foreign institutions...can anything be more shameful than that?
There is nothing good to talk about nigeria, from our health system to education to roads is nothing but total failure. The only thing to talk about is the competence of our politicians when it comes to corruption.

Pls if u wanna compare any situation with nigeria, don't use countries like USA, use our neighbours like ghana & senegal...Nigeria can never be like USA in any aspect if we continue with this level of corruption...& i don't see us changing anytime soon...

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by spyder880(m): 8:07am On Aug 03, 2017
bixton:
. Fallacy of Generalisation.
Except the manufacturer and direct distributor no one can give you a near clear response. I do not think there's any builder on NL or else where who have gone back to check on an installed roofing sheet of a client after years of handing over the property keys.
Nonetheless in as much as there might be fakes in the market be sure to buy from reputable companies who will sign a warranty/guaranty same as it was imported from the manufacturer.
To the best of my knowledge such roof tiles coming from Belgium, Netherlands, Korea meet up their word.

At bolded, I usually watch out for the changes in every roof I install whenever I came to the area, and I track the changes and ask questions. There was this house I completed in Ebonyi state about 4 years back, we used AYACO roof tiles, not a popular brand but I still see it as fresh and black as we installed them. No changes.

I have gone back to look at some houses we used Wichtech on, no changes yet after 5 years. There was a Wichtech roof which we use as reference in Enugu, that was the first red stone coated tiles I had ever seen, over 10 years now and still red.

As for aluminium roofing, I watch out for the durability of the colours, but what has been my remarkable experience is the types that leak or develop faults more than the others. I have found out that Metcoppo are more likely to develop leaks than any other type of aluminium roof. We check and document these changes and use them as a reference to future decisions.

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by bixton(m): 8:55am On Aug 03, 2017
spyder880:


At bolded, I usually watch out for the changes in every roof I install whenever I came to the area, and I track the changes and ask questions. There was this house I completed in Ebonyi state about 4 years back, we used AYACO roof tiles, not a popular brand but I still see it as fresh and black as we installed them. No changes.

I have gone back to look at some houses we used Wichtech on, no changes yet after 5 years. There was a Wichtech roof which we use as reference in Enugu, that was the first red stone coated tiles I had ever seen, over 10 years now and still red.

As for aluminium roofing, I watch out for the durability of the colours, but what has been my remarkable experience is the types that leak or develop faults more than the others. I have found out that Metcoppo are more likely to develop leaks than any other type of aluminium roof. We check and document these changes and use them as a reference to future decisions.
Very very good of you Oga Sypder for looking out for your previous projects.
For my clients who can afford and are using wichtech I am happy that it has and is serving it's purpose.

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by adanny01(m): 10:10am On Aug 03, 2017
GallantGalaxy:
The solar guru's in the house what do you think about this starter pack.

https://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/aw/d/B014XVD4QI/ref=pd_aw_sim_sbs_86_2?ie=UTF8&psc=1&refRID=CJMBWMME4N0ZVYA3K06C&dpPl=1&dpID=71oI1sEWaKL

Firstly, i didnt see a battery among the list.

Secondly, this is very useful in offgrid applications say your village where there is no grid electricity (Nepa). This brings us back to the location you wish to use it. If you have 10hrs supply of electricity in a day in your area, then this starter pack is no right for you. What you need is a grid tie set up.

Thirdly, a battery will cost as much as this starter pack or even more. The best is to get a battery plus a grid tie inverter which you can still use with generator for emergencies. This starter pack should come later as an add on to reduce your electricity bill.
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by kopell: 10:25am On Aug 03, 2017
johnson232:

I really don't understand this your comment
Seems it has been long u visited this country
U think anyone would want to tarnish his own?
This your countires not talking about their woes is wrong
If we are talking about a problem & the government isn't addressing it, is it when we keep mute about it government will address it?
Just tell me what is good about this country to cover up for the bad ones?
U dare compare nigerians meaningless killings by boko haram to USA killngs?
Yet all of u run to USA?
How many US citizens do u see fighting for visa to come to nigeria?
A conutry whose president reside in another country & whose children are graduates of foreign institutions...can anything be more shameful than that?
There is nothing good to talk about nigeria, from our health system to education to roads is nothing but total failure. The only thing to talk about is the competence of our politicians when it comes to corruption.

Pls if u wanna compare any situation with nigeria, don't use countries like USA, use our neighbours like ghana & senegal...Nigeria can never be like USA in any aspect if we continue with this level of corruption...& i don't see us changing anytime soon...
Just busy now, I respect your opinion though. One thing is clear to me, Nigerians citizens are enemy of themselves. CORRUPTION, CORRUPTION, CORRUPTION, we know that was our problem. When people of integrity take steps to correct wrongs. Wasn't the same people calling it witch hunting and political prosecution. When people were sharing our common wealth then, no one saw anything wrong then. All these issues you raise, do they just happen over night. Are you telling me the hospitals, schools, roads, light, were all good within the last 18 years. More especially in the last 10 years when oil was sold at over $100 per barrel. Everybody thought our economy was booming on the context of deceive in the name of foreign investments. You also raise the issue of students graduating from foreign institutions, that is the result you get if people practicing and voting for rice, money, ethnicity instead of quality people with discipline, morals and integrity. Mind you if all this hate and divide by rule by so called politicians that you guys voting for ethnicity line, nothing will change anytime soon. Not until we put our difference aside and be patriotic citizens that have interest of that country at heart and bring value that will make meaningful changes. Instead of going their with a mindset of looting. I remember when they thought the economy was booming and people come here, even low earners with government jobs. Some of them come here and spend $3,000-4,000 a day. Some of these people today cannot even afford to charge their phones for whatsapp and they make us look stupid, as if we don't know what we are doing out here.

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by jabolo(m): 10:30am On Aug 03, 2017
spyder880:


At bolded, I usually watch out for the changes in every roof I install whenever I came to the area, and I track the changes and ask questions. There was this house I completed in Ebonyi state about 4 years back, we used AYACO roof tiles, not a popular brand but I still see it as fresh and black as we installed them. No changes.

I have gone back to look at some houses we used Wichtech on, no changes yet after 5 years. There was a Wichtech roof which we use as reference in Enugu, that was the first red stone coated tiles I had ever seen, over 10 years now and still red.

As for aluminium roofing, I watch out for the durability of the colours, but what has been my remarkable experience is the types that leak or develop faults more than the others. I have found out that Metcoppo are more likely to develop leaks than any other type of aluminium roof. We check and document these changes and use them as a reference to future decisions.

Now, if Nairaland decides to start charging a subscription fee, posts like this one will make me pay.

Thanks Oga Spyder for the valuable feedback.

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by KolaShangOne(m): 10:48am On Aug 03, 2017
jabolo:


Thanks, abeg remind who are the 'Big 3'?
For me,

Wichtech GĂ©rard
Tilcor
Metro tiles (not common)

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by KolaShangOne(m): 10:55am On Aug 03, 2017
bixton:
. Fallacy of Generalisation.
Except the manufacturer and direct distributor no one can give you a near clear response. I do not think there's any builder on NL or else where who have gone back to check on an installed roofing sheet of a client after years of handing over the property keys.
Nonetheless in as much as there might be fakes in the market be sure to buy from reputable companies who will sign a warranty/guaranty same as it was imported from the manufacturer.
To the best of my knowledge such roof tiles coming from Belgium, Netherlands, Korea meet up their word.

I do.

Some of us go back to check on previously installed roofs especially if it's in the same catchment area.

Still checked one done 6years ago last weekend. Although I was just passing and decided to 'branch'.

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by olola4(m): 11:41am On Aug 03, 2017
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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by johnson232: 12:17pm On Aug 03, 2017
kopell:
Just busy now, I respect your opinion though. One thing is clear to me, Nigerians citizens are enemy of themselves. CORRUPTION, CORRUPTION, CORRUPTION, we know that was our problem. When people of integrity take steps to correct wrongs. Wasn't the same people calling it witch hunting and political prosecution. When people were sharing our common wealth then, no one saw anything wrong then. All these issues you raise, do they just happen over night. Are you telling me the hospitals, schools, roads, light, were all good within the last 18 years. More especially in the last 10 years when oil was sold at over $100 per barrel. Everybody thought our economy was booming on the context of deceive in the name of foreign investments. You also raise the issue of students graduating from foreign institutions, that is the result you get if people practicing and voting for rice, money, ethnicity instead of quality people with discipline, morals and integrity. Mind you if all this hate and divide by rule by so called politicians that you guys voting for ethnicity line, nothing will change anytime soon. Not until we put our difference aside and be patriotic citizens that have interest of that country at heart and bring value that will make meaningful changes. Instead of going their with a mindset of looting. I remember when they thought the economy was booming and people come here, even low earners with government jobs. Some of them come here and spend $3,000-4,000 a day. Some of these people today cannot even afford to charge their phones for whatsapp and they make us look stupid, as if we don't know what we are doing out here.
We are driving at the same point sir
The country need to first be fixed before we can start talking good about it
U don't expect me to talk good of a conutry that has failed in all aspect...that is my point
Patroitism is driven by stiff enforcement in most developed countries
Mind u i am not supporting any administration
We have been living in a failed state ever since IBB regime, not that it was good prior to IBB regme, but i think it was better

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