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Re: How Atheism Fails To Explain A Beginning To The Universe by tintingz(m): 8:24pm On Aug 08, 2017 |
butterflylion:Your questions are lame, Christians believe Jesus father is Yahweh following the bible scriptures. Joseph might be his earthly father but he(Jesus) is the son of God according their beliefs. Read Luke 1:26-38 Christian even claim Jesus existed right from the beginning (Old testament), pointing out some verses from the OT bible. And btw I'm not a Christian. |
Re: How Atheism Fails To Explain A Beginning To The Universe by felixomor: 8:25pm On Aug 08, 2017 |
tintingz:You know not what u speak of. |
Re: How Atheism Fails To Explain A Beginning To The Universe by tintingz(m): 8:26pm On Aug 08, 2017 |
felixomor:Yahweh has a son or not? |
Re: How Atheism Fails To Explain A Beginning To The Universe by felixomor: 8:28pm On Aug 08, 2017 |
LightandDarkness:Lmao! Eiya, so you hail someone who said "I (human being) am proof" that God is imaginary, You call such argument "flogging"? Wow, you must be tomfoolery kingpin 3 Likes 1 Share |
Re: How Atheism Fails To Explain A Beginning To The Universe by felixomor: 8:29pm On Aug 08, 2017 |
tintingz: Who is Yahweh? 1 Like |
Re: How Atheism Fails To Explain A Beginning To The Universe by tintingz(m): 8:31pm On Aug 08, 2017 |
felixomor:The Jewish God that has a Jewish son. |
Re: How Atheism Fails To Explain A Beginning To The Universe by butterflylion: 8:33pm On Aug 08, 2017 |
tintingz: Na wa o. Who do you this kind tin oga tintingz How can someone who eternally existed have a father? Christians do not believe in God being the father of Jesus, they believe that both (spiritual Jesus) and God are one. Note that I said Spiritual Jesus because he was even before time began but never existed as J E S U S until he was biologically born. When he took on flesh it was temporal but the being inside the body known as J E S U S remains forever which makes his existence from everlasting to everlasting. J E S U S is known in scripture as the son of man and even he called himself that. So which scripture talks of J E S U S being the son of God? Were you a Christian before? |
Re: How Atheism Fails To Explain A Beginning To The Universe by felixomor: 8:35pm On Aug 08, 2017 |
tintingz:God is a Spirit God has no tribe or nationality THERE IS nothing like "Jewish" God You may educate yourself a little 2 Likes 1 Share |
Re: How Atheism Fails To Explain A Beginning To The Universe by tintingz(m): 8:45pm On Aug 08, 2017 |
felixomor:Are we not talking about the bible God anymore? Yahweh, Jehovah, Elohim etc are all the names of a Jewish G-d. << I'm now Jewish. |
Re: How Atheism Fails To Explain A Beginning To The Universe by butterflylion: 8:49pm On Aug 08, 2017 |
tintingz: You no dey hear word. God is not Jewish. Simply say that to you God is a Jewish construct. God is not geographically restricted oga tintingz so remove those cobwebs in your brain. Who named God Yahweh? You? |
Re: How Atheism Fails To Explain A Beginning To The Universe by tintingz(m): 8:52pm On Aug 08, 2017 |
butterflylion:Read Luke 1:26-38 and tell me who was angel Gabriel talking about. Jesus called himself son of man, that's the argument non-christian used to argue about Jesus being just a man, while christian argue he called himself son of God using some verses in John. Were you a Christian before?Nope, a Muslim. |
Re: How Atheism Fails To Explain A Beginning To The Universe by tintingz(m): 8:56pm On Aug 08, 2017 |
butterflylion:Can you tell me why Yahweh called the Israelites "the chosen people"? Who named God Yahweh? You?Nope, it was Moses when God spoke to him. |
Re: How Atheism Fails To Explain A Beginning To The Universe by butterflylion: 8:57pm On Aug 08, 2017 |
tintingz: Mtcheew so na Muslim you be before sef. No wonder your confusion get swagger. Oga Jesus in the flesh was both human and divine but chose which to be as the need arose. For us he was made flesh in order to fulfil the requirements for an eternal sacrifice. If I start putting down spiritual explanations now your confusion will quadruple because your foundation is like a man born and raised in the stone age but argues that he knows how an Android phone works. |
Re: How Atheism Fails To Explain A Beginning To The Universe by butterflylion: 8:58pm On Aug 08, 2017 |
tintingz: Moses never named God! God never named Himself! God simply described himself. To Moses he said I AM That I AM has sent you. What is I AM that I AM? |
Re: How Atheism Fails To Explain A Beginning To The Universe by tintingz(m): 8:59pm On Aug 08, 2017 |
butterflylion:One question, did Joseph slept with Mary? |
Re: How Atheism Fails To Explain A Beginning To The Universe by butterflylion: 9:02pm On Aug 08, 2017 |
tintingz: Na wa o. Did God sleep with Mary? |
Re: How Atheism Fails To Explain A Beginning To The Universe by felixomor: 9:09pm On Aug 08, 2017 |
tintingz: You see why I say you know not what you speak? Is there anything like "jewish" spirit? |
Re: How Atheism Fails To Explain A Beginning To The Universe by tintingz(m): 9:31pm On Aug 08, 2017 |
butterflylion:God named himself I AM which is Yahweh(YHWH) in Hebrew according to the Jewish people, he said that is his name forever. |
Re: How Atheism Fails To Explain A Beginning To The Universe by tintingz(m): 9:34pm On Aug 08, 2017 |
butterflylion:I don't know about that one, all I know is God called Jesus his beloved son. |
Re: How Atheism Fails To Explain A Beginning To The Universe by tintingz(m): 9:35pm On Aug 08, 2017 |
felixomor: You mean spirit of God? Yes there is a Jewish spirit called the holy ghost. |
Re: How Atheism Fails To Explain A Beginning To The Universe by felixomor: 9:38pm On Aug 08, 2017 |
tintingz: O spirit has tribe? Wow.... Fantastic |
Re: How Atheism Fails To Explain A Beginning To The Universe by butterflylion: 9:40pm On Aug 08, 2017 |
tintingz: Do you see why I said your confusion has swagger? Moses asked God "who shall I say has sent me"? God responded tell them that I AM THAT I AM has sent you. I Am that I Am was God describing himself to Moses. He could not offer his name because he is everything and in everything and nothing exists without him so the easiest way to relate to his divine nature is through his many attributes and not his name. What God told Moses was like saying I am the beginning. I am the ending. I am Alpha. I am Omega. I am pure consciousness. I am the Universe. I am everything. Everything is mine. I am the body. The body is mine. I am the soul, and the spirit. The soul and the spirit is mine. I am the creator of all things, and all things are mine. I am the father, the son, and the holy Ghost. I am the window of the soul. The soul is me. God told Moses I am THAT I am. Do you know what the word THAT stands for? |
Re: How Atheism Fails To Explain A Beginning To The Universe by butterflylion: 9:45pm On Aug 08, 2017 |
tintingz: Let me further break it down to you. I AM THAT I AM. let me begin with the word AM Definition: AM, the first person of the verb to be, in the indicative mode, present tense (He is a God who lives in the eternal present. This is the reason he is eternal. He constantly is! THAT Definition: THAT, an adjective, pronoun or substitute. 1. That, is a word used as a definitive adjective, pointing to a certain person or thing before mentioned, or supposed to be understood. 2. That is used definitively, to designate a specific thing or person emphatically. What God told Moses was like saying I AM THE ONE WHO IS AND WHO ALWAYS IS. I DO NOT TRY TO BE BECAUSE I ALREADY AM AND WILL REMAIN AS I AM. |
Re: How Atheism Fails To Explain A Beginning To The Universe by tintingz(m): 9:50pm On Aug 08, 2017 |
butterflylion:Are you a Jewish man? The Jews said I AM means Yahweh in Hebrew, which God himself said that is his name forever. Break it down as you want, Yahweh is the name of the Jewish God. |
Re: How Atheism Fails To Explain A Beginning To The Universe by tintingz(m): 9:51pm On Aug 08, 2017 |
butterflylion:Did God said I AM(Yahweh) is his name forever or not? |
Re: How Atheism Fails To Explain A Beginning To The Universe by butterflylion: 9:51pm On Aug 08, 2017 |
tintingz: Yahweh was an attempted Jewish word for I AM THAT I AM. it was not a name but a Jewish rendering of the same term I AM THAT I AM. You go school Abi? |
Re: How Atheism Fails To Explain A Beginning To The Universe by tintingz(m): 9:56pm On Aug 08, 2017 |
felixomor:We all create the concept of spirit. The way Yoruba religion see spirit is different from Arab concept of spirit. If you're talking about spirit of a deity, yes spirits have tribes. |
Re: How Atheism Fails To Explain A Beginning To The Universe by butterflylion: 10:01pm On Aug 08, 2017 |
tintingz: Na wa o. I AM Wetin? I AM what? God gave you a blank cheque when he said I AM THAT I AM. He never gave us a name. Yahweh or YHWH is an attempted Hebrew rendering for the same words I AM THAT I AM. YHWH is made up of four consonants YHWH. It has no vowels (A, E, I, O, U) which are necessary for speech. The Israelites got around this by writing "YHWH", but when reading scriptures aloud, they said "ADONAI" or "LORD", and many Bibles today put in "LORD" in all capitals to signify the translation of "YHWH". There is no evidence that any attempt to pronounce "YHWH" was ever made by the Israelites, the early church, or by Jesus Christ. Oga tintingz stop confusing yourself. |
Re: How Atheism Fails To Explain A Beginning To The Universe by Nobody: 10:02pm On Aug 08, 2017 |
tintingz: Lmao you should know nairaland Christians are so dishonest. Jesus is no longer the son of God lol. john3:16 for God so loved the world that he gave his only begotten son that whosoever believes in him shall have eternal life. their so called trinity is father, son and holy spirit. |
Re: How Atheism Fails To Explain A Beginning To The Universe by felixomor: 10:03pm On Aug 08, 2017 |
tintingz:Interesting.... I am sure they also have nationality, according to your logic |
Re: How Atheism Fails To Explain A Beginning To The Universe by tintingz(m): 10:03pm On Aug 08, 2017 |
butterflylion:Bible God said his name is Yahweh which means I AM THAT I AM. If the Jewish God spoke to a Yoruba prophet and said his name his I AM, that his another case but as we all know the bible God never spoke to any Yoruba prophet or Ifa priest. |
Re: How Atheism Fails To Explain A Beginning To The Universe by Nobody: 10:09pm On Aug 08, 2017 |
there is no God but Allah and Muhammad is his prophet. God does not have a son there is only one God only one true religion Islam Christianity is false how can God rape a virgin? |
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