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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by larride(m): 10:00pm On Aug 19, 2017
bigkesh:
Don't waste your time on LALUDE
Na incantations you go dey read.
If not that I know you better, I could have responded to your lame jibe.
You just not worth it.

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Chelseafan1: 10:02pm On Aug 19, 2017
larride:


No wonder nobody likes arguing with you because no one would fathom the level of stupidity that's flowing through you.

We broke the record for a guy that's already in the FIFA ProXI at the age of 23 winning several titles among the way. In essence what I'm saying is that we broke the record transfer for his exploit in a Juve shirt, just the same way Madrid broke the record for Bale for his exploit with Tottenham.

Do I make myself clear enough or do you need me to read it out for you word by word oh ye dumbass

Animal, was that the question I asked the guy??

Why are you giving me a reply to a question I didn't ask?

Can you see how dumb you really are?

Incase you still missed it, this is what I asked the guy?

Chelseafan1:


What did Man utd break the transfer record for last season?


Tomorrow, I may decide to ask you why Pogba cost Man utd 89m, then you can answer me with this ur reply. But I asked the guy if he was signed to come score goals and assists or actually do the primary work of a midfielder but you being the fool that you are, you can't differentiate between both questions.

Are you always this stupidd?

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by bigkesh(m): 10:02pm On Aug 19, 2017
Chelseafan1:


Yes, we love the local champion like that, enjoy your dablord in peace grin

Local boy ti wo FIFA

Awon International ti o le beat Dembele to PFA

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by bigkesh(m): 10:03pm On Aug 19, 2017
larride:


If not that I know you better, I could have responded to your lame jibe.

You just not worth it.

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by larride(m): 10:05pm On Aug 19, 2017
diggz:



I actually asked borhda larride. Do you mind telling me what he contributed?

2015/2016 that he was among FIFA Pro XI
All comp
Played - 49 matches
Goals - 10
Assist - 15
Chance created - 79

You want more?
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Nihilist: 10:05pm On Aug 19, 2017
Griffon:


Except that Matic is no Pogba.


Tell me about it bro.

That's why he had to go. We only needed one DM - Kunta Kante.

You see how vulnerable we look when it's Kante-Fab right there? That's the difference.

You mean like the FA cup final? or Against Manyoo at Old Trafford? or Against Spurs home and away?

Like I said then, Matic had very little defensive responsibility last season. His 1.5 tackle per game average last season compared to his 3 tackles per game this season tells the whole story. Kante and the CentreBacks should have freed Matic up, in exactly the same way he is now freeing Pogba up...but Matic only knows what to do when the other side have the ball. Give him the ball and watch bag of beans lumber around in confusion.

This is why he had to go. His skillset was no longer required. At least Fabregas still managed double Matic's assists and scored 5 league goals for us last season. And that's why Fabregas is still here.

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by EvilMetahuman: 10:08pm On Aug 19, 2017
Chelseafan1:


Shut your trap already and stop posting false bullshhheet just to save face. You are so dumb and silly, you have no one to tell you.
This was my post to that guy b4 u jumped on the post to misyarn.



Oponu, what did Man utd break the transfer for last season, was it for Pogba to come dab or win the best haircut contest in the EPL. I didn't ask you why Juventus valued him at 89m.

You are a disgrace to your generation for not understanding simple question.

Get out of here with your sheer foolishness.
most scummies are usually brain damaged.

They hardly comprehend anything. They just go about yapping whatever comes to their scum filled brains.

Just be answering the questions no one asks them just to look like they know something.
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by larride(m): 10:09pm On Aug 19, 2017
Chelseafan1:


Animal, was that the question I asked the guy??

Why are you giving me a reply to a question I didn't ask?

Can you see how dumb you really are?

Incase you still missed it, this is what I asked the guy?



Tomorrow, I may decide to ask you why Pogba cost Man utd 89m, then you can answer me with this ur reply. But I asked the guy if he was signed to come score goals and assists or actually do the primary work of a midfielder but you being the fool that you are, you can't differentiate between both questions.

Are you always this stupidd?

I see your foolishness has finally caught up with you. When we broke that transfer record Pogba has not kicked a ball for us, we paid that much for him for his exploit in Juve not because of what he has played in a United shirt you this bastard son of a love peddler.

Whether Pogba has replicated those performance in a Man Utd shirt is a different thing entirely.

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by EvilMetahuman: 10:11pm On Aug 19, 2017
hinky:


Nah, they will not return... But its too early for d noise they re making esp on twitter
dont be so sure.
they started like this last year.
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by dopeJemi: 10:11pm On Aug 19, 2017
bigkesh:

Rappers in the house right now
I see why you are always slow

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Ibime(m): 10:16pm On Aug 19, 2017
Nihilist:
You see what Pogba is doing now at Manyoo? That's what I was expecting from Matic last season.

When I was pointing out how Kante was our DM based on his tackles and interceptions numbers, I was hearing yarns like temple run, and big men don't tackle.

Now Matic is averaging 3 tackles a game, similar to Kante last year. It just goes to emphasize why Matic had to go - The only thing he's really good at is winning the ball back in midfield. When Kante took over that duty, Matic lost his purpose.

I am quietly confident that Bakayoko can play that Pogba role for us when fully integrated into the team. Looking forward to his debut.

Two words. 93 points. 2nd highest in EPL history.

If Kante is DM, Fabregas should feel free to be AM. Fabregas has already failed and we are barely out of preseason, now you are focusing on Bakayoko.

Serbian bag of beans is already shaming the naysayers, don't try and contextualise it. Matic was doing exactly what he should do. Nothing like DM and AM in 2 man midfield.

Bakayokos job is not to contribute as AM, and if it is, I will buy you Nike Airmax if he even equals Matics goals + assist contribution of last season.

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Chelseafan1: 10:18pm On Aug 19, 2017
larride:


I see your foolishness has finally caught up with you. When we broke that transfer record Pogba has not kicked a ball for us, we paid that much for him for his exploit in Juve not because of what he has played in a United shirt you this bastard son of a love peddler.

Whether Pogba has replicated those performance in a Man Utd shirt is a different thing entirely.

The bolded is not necessary, it further shows how foolish you really are as u don't even know me or my mom to reach such conclusion.

You are either ashamed you've been disgraced or acting stubborn to save face but then I'm just so allergic to senseless comments from retards like you.

Why is it so hard for you to understand, this is a new season, Pogba has already played a season with Man utd, go back and follow the argument from the beginning.

Kante was signed last season to solve our midfield problem which he did perfectly, I didn't ask you why Leicester sold him for 30m, What was Pogba signed for last season why can't you understand simple question for God's sake.

How did you get thru skul, I want to believe you are learned. I'm actually tired of repeating myself.

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Chelseafan1: 10:19pm On Aug 19, 2017
EvilMetahuman:
most scummies are usually brain damaged.

They hardly comprehend anything. They just go about yapping whatever comes to their scum filled brains.

Just be answering the questions no one asks them just to look like they know something.

I'm fed up of this larride guy o. I don follow one goat argue this night. grin grin grin This one pass my power.
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Thecassanova: 10:19pm On Aug 19, 2017
Nihilist:
You see what Pogba is doing now at Manyoo? That's what I was expecting from Matic last season.

When I was pointing out how Kante was our DM based on his tackles and interceptions numbers, I was hearing yarns like temple run, and big men don't tackle.

Now Matic is averaging 3 tackles a game, similar to Kante last year. It just goes to emphasize why Matic had to go - The only thing he's really good at is winning the ball back in midfield. When Kante took over that duty, Matic lost his purpose.

I am quietly confident that Bakayoko can play that Pogba role for us when fully integrated into the team. Looking forward to his debut.

Actually I think what Pogba is doing now was what Kante did last season. Kante is just a workaholic that takes pleasure doing his job well.

Matic sit deep and let Pogba do the undertaker tackling work. Hence, that's why Pogba is more aggressive with tackling that get the fouls. Same what Kante did last season. Matic prevents direct run of opponent straight up, he escorts or confuse them towards Pogba or other teammates.

Core stability to the back 3 or 4 is what Matic provides, allowing the spare partnering midfielder to become free, run tackles, and go forward more. Conte & Mourinho sees that.

Matic is gone now let's see how Conte impact stability on Bakayoko.

BTW, to all Man U fans invading, remember last season you were comparing Herrera with Kante. Now Matic is removing him from starting line up. Now it's comparing Pogba to Kante. Where the Herrera? Una no dey taya?

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Nihilist: 10:20pm On Aug 19, 2017
Ibime:



Bakayokos job is not to contribute as AM, and if it is, I will buy you Nike Airmax if he even equals Matics goals + assist contribution of last season.


Let me just get this clear, Bakayoko needs to equal 7 assists and 1 goal this season, and you will buy me a pair of Airmax sneakers?

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Nobody: 10:22pm On Aug 19, 2017
EvilMetahuman:
dont be so sure. they started like this last year.
They wont.... but its too early to conclude...
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Nihilist: 10:24pm On Aug 19, 2017
Thecassanova:


Actually I think what Pogba is doing now was what Kante did last season. Kante is just a workaholic that takes pleasure doing his job and other people's.


Kante last season 3.6 tackles per game, 2.4 interceptions per game

Matic last season 1.5 tackles per game, 1.4 interceptions per game.
====================================================
Matic this season 3 tackles per game, 1 interception

Pogba this season, 1.5 tackles per game, 1 interception


I think it's obvious on these numbers alone who is doing what at both teams.
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Ibime(m): 10:27pm On Aug 19, 2017
Nihilist:



Let me just get this clear, Bakayoko needs to equal 7 assists and 1 goal this season, and you will buy me a pair of Airmax sneakers?


Yes. It be like say you no know Bakayoko. You want draw blood from stone?

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by larride(m): 10:28pm On Aug 19, 2017
Chelseafan1:


The bolded is not necessary, it further shows how foolish you really are as u don't even know me or my mom to reach such conclusion.

You are either ashamed you've been disgraced or acting stubborn to save face but then I'm just so allergic to senseless comments from retards like you.

Why is it so hard for you to understand, this is a new season, Pogba has already played a season with Man utd, go back and follow the argument from the beginning.

Kante was signed last season to solve our midfield problem which he did perfectly, I didn't ask you why Leicester sold him for 30m, What was Pogba signed for last season why can't you understand simple question for God's sake.

How did you get thru skul, I want to believe you are learned. I'm actually tired of repeating myself.

If you can't understand or comprehend what you typed yourself then I think your case is even more critical than I imagined.

Your question is 'What did we break the world record for'. I responded by telling you that we broke the record for his exploit for Juve and not because of what he did in a United shirt last season because he hasn't kicked a ball for us when we broke the record but we paid that much because of his exploit in Juve. Whether he has lived up to the amount or not is a different thing. If you want to argue Kante did better than Pogba in the EPL last season, it's another discourse entirely.

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Nihilist: 10:29pm On Aug 19, 2017
Ibime:


Yes. It be like say you no know Bakayoko. You want draw blood from stone?

Total contribution was 8 goals. As long as Bakayoko contributes 8 goals this season, my canvass is confirmed. I like those terms.

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Ibime(m): 10:32pm On Aug 19, 2017
Nihilist:


Kante last season 3.6 tackles per game, 2.4 interceptions per game

Matic last season 1.5 tackles per game, 1.4 interceptions per game.
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Matic this season 3 tackles per game, 1 interception

Pogba this season, 1.5 tackles per game, 1 interception


I think it's obvious on these numbers alone who is doing what at both teams.

DM is about position on pitch, not about number of tackles. Kante was not DM last season, he was even more box-to-box than Matic.

Also to add, midfield has 3 elements - defence, control and attack. With enough control, you don't need to defend at all sef. That's what Xavi and Busquets built their career on - 90% control and only 10% defence. Replacing Matic with Baka means we have lost any control we had in midfield. That's why some of us are hoping on David Luiz for midfield.

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Chelseafan1: 10:35pm On Aug 19, 2017
larride:


If you can't understand or comprehend what you typed yourself then I think your case is even more critical than I imagined.

Your question is 'What did we break the world record for'. I responded by telling you that we broke the record for his exploit for Juve and not because of what he did in a United shirt last season because he hasn't kicked a ball for us when we broke the record but we paid that much because of his exploit in Juve. Whether he has lived up to the amount or not is a different thing. If you want to argue Kante did better than Pogba in the EPL last season, it's another discourse entirely.

If I ask you these questions.

1. Why did Chelsea pay 30m for Kante last season?
Is it different from,


2.Why did Man utd pay 89m for Pogba last season?
Answer me pls, are they different questions or the same. Let's start from there.
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by larride(m): 10:36pm On Aug 19, 2017
Chelseafan1
What was Kante signed for? Why did you pay 30m for Kante?
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by larride(m): 10:38pm On Aug 19, 2017
Chelseafan1:


If I ask you why Chelsea paid 30m for Kante last season?
Is it different from, Why did Man utd pay 89m for Pogba last season?
Answer me pls, are they different questions or the same. Let's start from there.

Chelsea paid 30m for Kante because of his exploit and impressive stat for Leicester.

Why did Man Utd pay 89m for Pogba, now answer that question.
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Chelseafan1: 10:43pm On Aug 19, 2017
larride:


Chelsea paid 30m for Kante because of his exploit and impressive stat for Leicester.

Why did Man Utd pay 89m for Pogba, now answer that question.

You failed to relate that question to the discussing I was having with the guy.

I was like what did Man utd pay that amount for, like what did Pogba eventually did for the team last season, last season, last season o, not b4 he signed. Was it for him to dab, score goals, defend, or what exactly, this has nothing to do with Juventus or Leicester.

Chelsea paid 30m for Kante to solve our midfield problem which he did well as a Chelsea player, I have no business with his Leicester exploits, what did Man utd pay 89m for?

Maybe the screenshots will help you, you no take time understand post, u dey jump like puma.

I asked the guy a question about Pogba in Man utd, he couldn't even ansa, na u carry big chest kon dey reply with a totally different reply.

Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Thecassanova: 10:48pm On Aug 19, 2017
Nihilist:


Kante last season 3.6 tackles per game, 2.4 interceptions per game

Matic last season 1.5 tackles per game, 1.4 interceptions per game.
====================================================
Matic this season 3 tackles per game, 1 interception

Pogba this season, 1.5 tackles per game, 1 interception


I think it's obvious on these numbers alone who is doing what at both teams.

Tackling is not everything, it's not a basic requirement for a DM.

IF I have to make a tackle then I have already made a mistake.”
That is the sentiment of Italy legend Paolo Maldini, the greatest defender in football history. He can't be so wrong to agree.

That's why great DM like Gilberto da Silva & Xabi Alonso didn't need to tackle.
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by EvilMetahuman: 10:51pm On Aug 19, 2017
hinky:


They wont.... but its too early to conclude...
we dey here
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Nihilist: 10:53pm On Aug 19, 2017
Ibime:


DM is about position on pitch, not about number of tackles. Kante was not DM last season, he was even more box-to-box than Matic.

Also to add, midfield has 3 elements - defence, control and attack. With enough control, you don't need to defend at all sef. That's what Xavi and Busquets built their career on - 90% control and only 10% defence. Replacing Matic with Baka means we have lost any control we had in midfield. That's why some of us are hoping on David Luiz for midfield.

4 eyes can see the exact same thing, but the two brains may not interpret them the same way. That's why I like to refer to stats when having these kind of discussions.

Tackles and Interceptions are defensive actions.

The stats say that Kante performed more defensive actions last season than Matic. The stats also say that Matic performed more offensive actions than Kante.

What I saw from Matic, I choose to interpret as an opinion that he wasn't the DM for us. The stats appear to agree with me.
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by larride(m): 10:53pm On Aug 19, 2017
Chelseafan1:


You failed to relate that question to the discussing I was having with the guy.

I was like what did Man utd pay that amount for, like what did Pogba eventually did for the team last season, last season, last season o, not b4 he signed. Was it for him to dab, score goals, defend, or what exactly, this has nothing to do with Juventus or Leicester.

Chelsea paid 30m for Kante to solve our midfield problem which he did well as a Chelsea player, I have no business with his Leicester exploits, what did Man utd pay 89m for?

I see where you are driving your bicycle too, how would you know Kante will solve your midfield problem when he hasn't kicked a ball for CFC, If Kante did not perform the way he did while at Leicester Chelsea won't have table a bid for him if they didn't see those things they want in him and luckily for you guys he delivered. That Pogba has delivered or not is a different thing entirely but when you bought Kante, you bought him for his abilities which he has showed in Leicester ditto Pogba.

EOD

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Nihilist: 10:57pm On Aug 19, 2017
Thecassanova:


Tackling is not everything, it's not a basic requirement for a DM.

IF I have to make a tackle then I have already made a mistake.”
That is the sentiment of Italy legend Paolo Maldini, the greatest defender in football history. He can't be so wrong to agree.

That's why great DM like Gilberto da Silva & Xabi Alonso didn't need to tackle.

Choose your position and stick to it.

Thecassanova:


Actually I think what Pogba is doing now was what Kante did last season. Kante is just a workaholic that takes pleasure doing his job well.

Matic sit deep and let Pogba do the undertaker tackling work. Hence, that's why Pogba is more aggressive with tackling that get the fouls. Same what Kante did last season. Matic prevents direct run of opponent straight up, he escorts or confuse them towards Pogba or other teammates.

Core stability to the back 3 or 4 is what Matic provides, allowing the spare partnering midfielder to become free, run tackles, and go forward more. Conte & Mourinho sees that.



You said Pogba is doing the same work as Kante with an emphasis on tackling, and that Matic lets Pogba do all the tackling work.The stats say such an assertion is not factually correct.

Then you're quoting Maldini - What does Maldini have to do with Pogba and Kante? He's not even a black french midfielder who plays in England...
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Chelseafan1: 10:57pm On Aug 19, 2017
larride:


I see where you are driving your bicycle too, how would you know Kante will solve your midfield problem when he hasn't kicked a ball for CFC, If Kante did not perform the way he did while at Leicester Chelsea won't have table a bid for him if they didn't see those things they want in him and luckily for you guys he delivered. That Pogba has delivered or not is a different thing entirely but when you bought Kante, you bought him for his abilities which he has showed in Leicester ditto Pogba.

EOD

If these screenshots do not answer your questions, then your case is not ordinary. I was having a clean convo with that guy b4 u jumped in with a totally irrelevant reply. We were clearly talking about what they did for their respective new teams not their previous teams.

He was like Pogba wasn't really signed to score goals and I can remember some of pple cursing him and wondering why ur club paid 89m for him, so, I decided to ask sekratus what exactly he was signed to do since it's not really goals. Na u enter convo with his irrevancies.

Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Ibime(m): 10:59pm On Aug 19, 2017
Nihilist:


4 eyes can see the exact same thing, but the two brains may interpret them the same way. That's why I like to refer to stats when having these kind of discussions.

Tackles and Interceptions are defensive actions.

The stats say that Kante performed more defensive actions last season than Matic. The stats also say that Matic performed more offensive actions than Kante.

What I saw from Matic, I choose to interpret as an opinion that he wasn't the DM for us. The stats appear to agree with me.


If you saw Essien and Makelele stats, you would assume Essien was the DM and Makelele was the B2B.

For a player like Matic, tackle is the last option while for Kante it's his first option due to his size and speed.

A player of Matics style seeing 3 defenders behind him and Kante never far from him, and with space under control will feel no need to tackle.

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