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Re: Why Are There Many Different Religions. by shadeyinka(m): 6:43am On Aug 25, 2017 |
johnydon22: That is not the issue for now. We may as well extend the argument to who created them or how they evolved. I can't go beyond what I know. In those days, there were Nephilims: (Hybrids), men of reknown...It is possible that the ancient technologies were sired through them from the Pyramid, the planetary systems (how on earth did the ancient know about Mars, Venus, etc). How did they cut massive stones at an age when iron shouldn't have been invented? How did the Mayan's arrive at their calender? Could their be some element of truths in the Greek gods narrations or they were just brilliant stories. How come evolution cannot account for the Paracas skulls? The point is, there are two many unknowns which are impossible to find without proper scientific equipment. I honestly do not think that the ancients should know about other planets except telescope wasn't a recent invention. All these suggests that man had some outside help. And that's my point. |
Re: Why Are There Many Different Religions. by shadeyinka(m): 6:47am On Aug 25, 2017 |
correctguy101: Correction: One can only be Born Again only Once. I assume you are equating being Born Again with Reicanation. No! They are different things. Being born again is an instruction to the living: for a purpose! |
Re: Why Are There Many Different Religions. by johnydon22(m): 9:01am On Aug 25, 2017 |
correctguy101: here we go, if iron smelting can be a thought out process that undergoes series of trials and error in the course of it's evolution towards perfection, why would shadeyinka be here arguing with dalaman that humans cannot come up with such craft on their own? if those extra-terrestrials beings can, surely humans can. it's that simple. 1 Like 1 Share |
Re: Why Are There Many Different Religions. by johnydon22(m): 9:18am On Aug 25, 2017 |
shadeyinka: exactly the point, when ever you try to assume such explanations to fill a gap left by your ignorance or inability to comprehend a most likely natural process, you will always run into more problems than you aim to answer and one of such is always the problem of infinite regression. If you aim to save a step for the causality of their knowledge by using that phrase "Thats not the issue now" then surely we could still save that step when faced with the causality for human knowledge by employing that same method "Thats not the issue now" what is good for the goose is good for the gander. so the questions still stands, how did these beings learn theirs before teaching humans
but you don't know this actually, there is a difference between knowledge and belief and so far this so called "what you know" is proving unable to withstand a little bit of scrutiny And the question goes back to, how did these nephilims learn these technologies? if they can learn it on their own then man certainly can, if man cannot then how did they do it? (how on earth did the ancient know about Mars, Venus, etc). Simple, they observed the night sky. we live in a planet with clear skies where we are graced with overwhelming lights from outside, if we lived in such a cloud ridden planet like venus then your argument would hold but not here on earth. we could see the stars (some of these points of lights in the night are in fact these planets), surely we could study the stars we see. why didn't these Naphilims teach about all the 64 moons of Saturn, only planets visible from earth. haaaa that you don't know how ancient people built or knew stuff doesn't mean aliens taught them, it means you don't know
Simple answer: You don't know
genetics can in fact, there are variations in many humans, deformities and anomalies that genetics can account for when studied not appeal to broad theories like evolution The point should be that something is unknown doesn't mean it is impossible, you don't know how they did it, simple and that is it. assuming up such answers will end you in a more complex loop than when you started creating more problems for you. I think they should, they kept star chats and monitored the movement of these stars and the planets have a more strange movement than their starry counterparts.
No, all these suggests you don't know how man did it so you assume up an outside help. i repeat not knowing how something was done is not a clutch to bring up any absurd answer and argue it to be true. Your point do not have valid enough arguments to support it 6 Likes 3 Shares |
Re: Why Are There Many Different Religions. by Mujtahida: 11:20am On Aug 25, 2017 |
Mankind's search for God |
Re: Why Are There Many Different Religions. by shadeyinka(m): 7:57pm On Aug 25, 2017 |
johnydon22: I guess you don't get it yet. What you insinuate was that man just did some random process and sometime, beneficial side effects come out of it. But You forget the law of probability. All in the remote parts of the world use similar techniques. If I have seen smelting of iron ore before, it makes sense if I use series of trials and error to recreate it. Humans achieve great results in incremental steps: I ask that you 1. show me inceamental steps in iron ore smelting technologies. 2. Show show me migrational pattern of the spread of iron technology. It would interest you to know that several communities who never passed through the bronze age still managed to have iron technology. For your information,Bronze melts at about 600oC and iron melts at about 1200oC. These are not common temperatures. |
Re: Why Are There Many Different Religions. by shadeyinka(m): 7:59pm On Aug 25, 2017 |
johnydon22:Your naivity in this matter will not allow me to continue. It will be a waste! Good night |
Re: Why Are There Many Different Religions. by johnydon22(m): 8:26pm On Aug 25, 2017 |
shadeyinka: Lol |
Re: Why Are There Many Different Religions. by johnydon22(m): 8:27pm On Aug 25, 2017 |
shadeyinka: So? aliens did it because you have no idea how it came about, guy go and sleep.... |
Re: Why Are There Many Different Religions. by shadeyinka(m): 8:44pm On Aug 25, 2017 |
johnydon22: Aliens?! |
Re: Why Are There Many Different Religions. by dalaman: 9:02pm On Aug 25, 2017 |
shadeyinka: My friend just read up on the history of iron smelting. The ancients weren't smelting iron at such high temperatures. They used a process called bloom, which then has to be consolidated with a hammer to produce wrought iron. They weren't heating up the iron and using it the way we are using it now. The technology for that came over time. You are just making ridiculous assumptions. |
Re: Why Are There Many Different Religions. by dalaman: 9:03pm On Aug 25, 2017 |
johnydon22: He did not even study the history of iron smelting and he's here asking inane questions. |
Re: Why Are There Many Different Religions. by shadeyinka(m): 10:01pm On Aug 25, 2017 |
dalaman:You read up something on the internet and suddenly you've become an expert. |
Re: Why Are There Many Different Religions. by vaxx: 10:02pm On Aug 25, 2017 |
Dohgon:yes I agree with you. this is where Islam and IFA odu agree. olodumare have no physical representation. Islam to me has a lot of brilliant idea. |
Re: Why Are There Many Different Religions. by dalaman: 10:09pm On Aug 25, 2017 |
shadeyinka: You read some Jewish mythology about some imaginary beings that fell into the earth from some fictitious heaven and interacted with humans and you think you have monopoly of knowledge. |
Re: Why Are There Many Different Religions. by correctguy101(m): 5:45am On Aug 26, 2017 |
shadeyinka: Like I said, you are stuck with only the Christian version of things. Remember, there was not always Christianity. And no, I wasn't referring to reincarnation. |
Re: Why Are There Many Different Religions. by orunto27: 8:23am On Aug 26, 2017 |
When a man stands in front of you, you only see his front thoroughly. You don't see his back and you don't see his right and left sides properly. Such is humans' experience with God. Judaism face God. Islam watch God's back. Others see God by His sides left or right. Christianity see everything, every parts and every sides of God. Jesus walked this Earth 2050 years ago. Christians saw him wholly and have been walking with Him since then. Luke1:1-4 |
Re: Why Are There Many Different Religions. by shadeyinka(m): 8:50am On Aug 26, 2017 |
dalaman: The demons in charge can't help but hate their sworn enemy. Good day! |
Re: Why Are There Many Different Religions. by shadeyinka(m): 9:05am On Aug 26, 2017 |
correctguy101: Being BornAgain is a Real event NOT a change in behavioural pattern. Its like having ones name REGISTERED with God, the registration is only once. Intact, if a person perchance loose this registration, it is impossible to be re-registered (although is not easy to loose it). So, what does your bornagain mean? (Since Jesus was the first to use and define the phrase) |
Re: Why Are There Many Different Religions. by correctguy101(m): 9:22am On Aug 26, 2017 |
shadeyinka:Here we go again. But I feel I'm in the mood for this. First, let me still state that you are strictly talking about Christianity's version of born again. @d bolded, you make me smile and shake my head. Even in Christianity, there's a change in character when anyone claims to be born again. or at least the person tries to do things differently. Secondly, Jesus wasn't the first to use that term. The ritual of "Raising" has been practiced for long among the Essenes and at the end, each candidate is declared born again and a new creature. Paul somehow got wind of the ritual and weaved it into the infant religion he was propagating then. He and Petras Before I forget, What you say born again isn't is exactly what it is. I don't get to limit it to what Christianity calls it for it's same everywhere. |
Re: Why Are There Many Different Religions. by cheapiptv(m): 9:42am On Aug 26, 2017 |
muslim is the best for life |
Re: Why Are There Many Different Religions. by dalaman: 9:50am On Aug 26, 2017 |
shadeyinka: Now you've gone to the realm of imaginations. What are demons? Have you met one before? How do they look like? Descibe one for me and tell me how I can encounter one in an objective and clear way. I don't have time for your fictional and mythological beings. You went ranting about how iron smelting wasn't a human discovery without even studying about its history. Now you are talking about fictional demons. Carry on your imaginations waka abeg. |
Re: Why Are There Many Different Religions. by dalaman: 9:54am On Aug 26, 2017 |
orunto27: These are just your empty and puerile claims. Christianity is just list Islam and all the other religions in reality. Jesus was just a Jewish hippie who was killed and his followers later reared a mythology and legend after him by raising his status as God many years after he died. |
Re: Why Are There Many Different Religions. by shadeyinka(m): 10:14am On Aug 26, 2017 |
correctguy101: Of course, there is a change of character AFTER or as a CONSEQUENCE of being BornAgain. Its like, behaving like a student after you have been given an admission. The ritual of raising! Do you mean Baptism? For Christians, there are two types of Baptism 1. Water Baptism 2. Spiritual Baptism (Born Again) Jesus definition of BornAgain was about the Spiritual not the Physical. Even, John the Baptist practiced water baptism. |
Re: Why Are There Many Different Religions. by shadeyinka(m): 10:16am On Aug 26, 2017 |
dalaman:You simply don't know when a conversation is dead! |
Re: Why Are There Many Different Religions. by dalaman: 10:21am On Aug 26, 2017 |
shadeyinka: I simply know when you are talking NONSENSE! 1 Like 1 Share |
Re: Why Are There Many Different Religions. by correctguy101(m): 10:24am On Aug 26, 2017 |
shadeyinka: The Raising ritual has nothing to do with water baptism. Know anything about the Essenes? It's still the ritual that brought some core beliefs of Christianity. I just wander how Paul got wind of it being a Herodian, an outsider, for was a guarded secret. |
Re: Why Are There Many Different Religions. by shadeyinka(m): 10:37am On Aug 26, 2017 |
correctguy101: I know a little of the Essenes. They practiced Baptism. Baptism ritual was quite common at the time of Jesus. I don't know of Paul as a Herodian: he was a Pharisees bit that's not even the point. The point is that Paul didn't originate the act/process of being BornAgain. Paul concentrated his teaching to those who are already BornAgain and identified with a congregation. It was all of Jesus. Looks like you've got a lot of gnostic gospel literatures. |
Re: Why Are There Many Different Religions. by oaroloye(m): 2:39pm On Aug 26, 2017 |
If everybody followed the same road to Hell, the. GO-SLOW would be EPIC! |
Re: Why Are There Many Different Religions. by hopefulLandlord: 2:48pm On Aug 26, 2017 |
oaroloye: oaroloye, did you just make a post with just one sentence? what year is it guys? 3 Likes 2 Shares |
Re: Why Are There Many Different Religions. by oaroloye(m): 2:48pm On Aug 26, 2017 |
SHALOM! correctguy101: PAUL HAD ALL THE INFORMATION HE NEEDED FROM THE 500 EYEWITNESSES AND OTHER CHRISTIANS HE ARRESTED AND BROUGHT TO TRIAL. Why does everybody ignore that? |
Re: Why Are There Many Different Religions. by oaroloye(m): 4:22pm On Aug 26, 2017 |
SHALOM! dalaman: DEVILS are a GLOBAL Phenomenon. As far as I know, only the Native American Sect of NEW SEERS Carlos Castaneda was apprenticed to had the Discipline to see their True Forms. They are capable of disguising themselves with Holograms, and do so, because it is very bad for them, if we can SEE their True Form, and figure them out. It emerges that they look like mummified serpents. Descibe one for me and tell me how I can encounter one in an objective and clear way. I don't have time for your fictional and mythological beings. See: THE FIRE FROM WITHIN, by Carlos Castaneda. https://archive.org/details/carlos-castaneda-all-books-in-one You went ranting about how iron smelting wasn't a human discovery without even studying about its history. Now you are talking about fictional demons. Carry on your imaginations waka abeg. DEVILS ARE CAPABLE OF INFLUENCING HUMAN THOUGHT TO INSPIRE INVENTIONS - or else pretend to have done so. |
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