Let's watch how that will go far in the largest pagans' country in the world

Denchturbo:
You do know the reconquest of Muslim lands is what started the dark ages. [s]We owe advances in science and mathematics to men who were Muslim.
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[s]Look at the Arab numerals and look at 1-10[/s]
Not every Muslim is a terrorist. [s]And no religion has the monopoly on violence (Myanmar, India, The crusades)[/s]

it is Hindu numerical and decimal not Arab

Arabs took/stole them from India and simply passed them onto Europeans who ignorantly credited it to them

after the truth was realized it was rectified later on

"It was invented between the 1st and 4th centuries by Indian mathematicians. The system was adopted in Arabic mathematics by the 9th century. Influential were the books of Muḥammad ibn Mūsā al-Khwārizmī (On the Calculation with Hindu Numerals, c.825) and Al-Kindi (On the Use of the Hindu Numerals, c.830). The system later spread to medieval Europe by the High Middle Ages."

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hindu%E2%80%93Arabic_numeral_system

most of arab mathematics and science is based on stolen and borrowed Hindu/Indian mathematics and science.


basta/rd Islamic invaders till date have killed estimated 280 million Indians which include Hindus Sikhs Jains Buddhists

muslims in china,china shld nuke dem.

Dumb move, what will they do to people who memorized it already ?

alfanio:

what you don't know is that there are plenty who have already memorized the whole of the Quran by heart and can reproduce it by writing off hand so the Chinese govt is just wasting its time and so is any body or govt that tries to stop the worship of Allah.

atk5:
What a useless move by the Chinese govt, but I like that in one way coz more people will convert to Islam just bcs of this harassment, that is one aspect of Islam. Secondly, if they like they should block all source of internet connections, all that I know there are thousands of people who can memorize and even publish the holy Qur'an up head, so there is no big deal about. And I want the Chinese govt to also note that ISLAM is the fastest growing religion on EARTH, coz the more pressure the stronger they are. "A word is enough for the wise"

They only grow by high birth rate

China is not a religious country

Why don't your prophet Muhammad's country allow other religion?

Why is there no single church in Saudi

wasiuworld1:
Dumb move,
what will they do to people who memorized it already ?

Just go submit your Qur'an to Chinese government let them burn it so that peace will reign in the world

Whatever will be will be.


Seeing a lot of weird comments and the usual lies. People who are always claiming that they are persecuted, are approving the persecution of others.


A picture says more than a thousand words. I never knew there were this many Muslims in China.


They too obviously cant believe it. Islam de spread. Anyhow Muslims should please obey gently.

You can only oppress Muslims, Islam as a religion can never be oppressed. It's a religion of Allah

abdulsemiu02:
You can only oppress Muslims, Islam as a religion can never be oppressed. It's a religion of Allah

True true copy copy they have started vigils

TundeHashim:
its been a while I did this. Won't like to argue over religion in a public space, but I'll make some passing remarks, so it won't look as if I chickened out. I find 4 points worthy of note, and I'll address them accordingly.

Firstly, you agreed there was (forced conversion) in Christianity's history. Have nothing to say. The point is not contentious.

Secondly, you stated that "it was against the teaching and action of Christ himself". I think I find it difficult to agree. The actual truth was that he was powerless. He wasn't blessed (like moh'd or moses) with a nation where he could exercise absolute control over the people. If he was the head of a town and not a local preacher, the result would have been drastically different. I have so many examples to give, but one that particularly comes to my mind is in the book of Matthew. Mathew 10:14-15 gives us an insight into the mind of ur Christ. He placed a curse on any nation that refuses to "listen" to the words of his disciples (which in actual fact, is Christ words). So if someone who practically has no power can CURSE a country just because they refused to "listen" to his words, what do u think such a person will do if he has a million army at his back? Your guess is as good as mine. (For sake of brevity, I'll keep my opinion short and simple)

Thirdly, you asserted with an air of superiority, that "same can't be said of Mohammed". That's false. There's a quranic verse that emphatically states that "there's no compulsion in religion". So I don't know where u saw yours. It'll be interesting if you bring evidence from the Qur'an which enjoins Muslims to force others to convert. Besides, they were Jews and Christians living in Mohammed's city until the day he died. Furthermore, there's a concept called "dhimmi" in Islamic jurisprudence. I'll wish u make further research on that.

Fourthly(doubt if there's such term ut for the sake of convenience, help me manage it), you said Mohammed's Islam "would have been dead without the sword". Whoa! Thats a fantastic prediction that'll stun the best of mathematicians. How do u arrive at such bogus conclusion? Do u know the first person to convert to Islam? Was the sword put on her ( I doubt if u know the person..although Google could help u out) before she became a Muslim, what about the second, third, fourth, fifth, sixth persons to convert to Islam, did mohd coerce them? Now coming down to Nigeria, how did Islam get to Nigeria, were the Mais in Kanem-Borno Empire coerced to join Islam? What about the Sarakuna (meaning kings) in hausaland. We Fulanis do say we brought Islam to Nigeria, but deep within me, I know that's false. Islam had been in Nigeria prior to the birth of Shehu Dan Fodio (interestingly, his Islamic knowledge came from hausaland). What about in Nupe land, were they forced as well? How did Islam get to Indonesia, Malaysia, Senegal, Mali? Almost all Fulanis are Muslims, where we forced? Who placed the knife on our throats to convert?

Conclusively, I hope to see ur response to this vexing points I've raised but conversely, I'm not intending to reply u with a long post again. I'm a very liberal Muslim, believing that religion should be a personal thing.My human identity supersedes my Islamic identity and that's the main reason I picked your comment, amongst the various daft comments I read. We shouldn't rejoice over calamity that befalls a group because we're all humans. Today it's Uiyghurs, tomorrow it might be Christians.

The bolded is entirely false. (Luke 26:52-54) “Put your sword back in its place,” Jesus said to him. “For all who draw the sword will die by the sword. Are you not aware that I can call on My Father, and He will at once put at my disposal more than twelve legions of angels? But how then would the Scriptures be fulfilled that say it must happen this way?”

The last words Jesus said on the cross is the Christian example and that is what Jesus did when evil men came against Him. (Luke 23:34) And Jesus said, "Father, forgive them for they know not what they do". So, Jesus was the Christian example and this is His command... and He maintained same narrative throughout his lifetime. He did not say one thing at one instance and later 'abrogate' it after receiving a new inspiration. (Luke 6:27-28) "But I say to you who hear, love your enemies, do good to those who hate you, bless those who curse you, pray for those who abuse you." In all cases, while muhammad taught selective love, Jesus Christ taught and lived out unconditional love which is love in its truest form. Eckhart Tolle in his book 'The Power of Now: A Guide to Spiritual Enlightenment' says: “Love is not selective, just as the light of the sun is not selective. It does not make one person special. It is not exclusive. Exclusivity is not the love of God but the "love" of ego.

Of course it is incontestable that islam provided non-muslims (dhimmis) with considerable economic, cultural, and administrative rights. The issue with this verse, and many others however is that the quran is not arranged chronologically like the bible; it is arranged according to the size of the chapters. This complicates interpretation, all the more when some verses appear to contradict. Hence, the reason why the doctrine of abrogation would suffice. The verse was revealed while in Mecca when muhammad's army was 'weak'. Things changed after he migrated to Medina and became involved politically. His army started growing and taking siege on caravans and stuff like that became rife. That been said, the verse is abrogated by (Quran 9:73) "O Prophet, fight against the disbelievers and the hypocrites and be harsh upon them. And their refuge is Hell, and wretched is the destination."
Concerning the dhimmitude, the quran makes it clear that the people of the book (that is
Christian and Jews who have revealed scriptures) should be spared as long as they pay tribute and acknowledge their position as second class citizens.

After muhammad's death, Abu Bakr fought the "Apostasy Wars" (Ridda wars) and united the Arabian Peninsula under islam. He then started looking beyond Arabia for expansion at the expense of the powerful Byzantine and Sassanid empires. The muslims later went ahead to invade the two empires thereby conquering Egypt, the Levant, Persia, and so on, for the main goal of spreading islam around the world. In just under ten years, muslims had conquered and were in control of a territory stretching from North Africa to Persia. Ten years!

I don't believe in liberalizing religion, especially islam and christianity. Both religions do not give room for that. One cannot define "human identity" without the God essence. And getting to know and understand that God in His true essence is where religion takes center stage. And being that islam as a religion is as well political, and virtually controls all aspects of the life of its adherents, it creates no room for liberalism. Unlike Christianity, islam is not meant to be altered or watered down (liberalized) in any form.

9inches:
Chinese police order Muslims to hand in all copies of the Koran and prayer mats or face 'harsh punishment'

According to local officials, Xinjiang authorities earlier this year, began removing all Korans published more than five years ago due to extremist content.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/china/article-4929064/amp/Chinese-police-ask-Muslims-hand-copies-Koran.html

I concur!

frankdGreat125:
Waooooo..... datz a gud move
Religion of destruction
Religion of blood shed
I hope the same should happen all over d world

Shame on u terrorist!
Well u can start the campaign in your village

I can see some Nigerians heart filled with happiness as if they are already in their promised paradise. They are trying to cover the wind of Islam, but Allah is more powerful. There is no way you Chinese government can remove symbol of Islam from Muslims, Quran are already memorized, the tongues can frequently Recite adhkar and the Quran , the hijab and Islamic clothes are there, prayers and fasting can be observed.... ... They can only try but won't successful. You fake Muslims and Dullard Nigerian Christians should go and hug huh transformer.

Not surprise as the kids of "love your neughbours as yourself and real peace" and democracy will be so elated about the actions of the Chinese govt.

They are so dumb that even their Christian brothers are also affected in China, same way they rejoice when the Palestinians are slaughtered along their christian brothers in Palestine by the murderous Jews.

These guys are the most foolish and gullible nymphs on earth.

my brother no compulsion in Islam u don't force ppl in to Islam. the koran says don't oppress n do not oppressed islam is peace

GoroTango:
Go and read the history of the christian church, forced conversions were the order of the day anywhere its adherents stepped foot

Thank God you said it's history, we're talking of currently....

nemesis4u:


it is Hindu numerical and decimal not Arab

Arabs took/stole them from India and simply passed them onto Europeans who ignorantly credited it to them

after the truth was realized it was rectified later on

"It was invented between the 1st and 4th centuries by Indian mathematicians. The system was adopted in Arabic mathematics by the 9th century. Influential were the books of Muḥammad ibn Mūsā al-Khwārizmī (On the Calculation with Hindu Numerals, c.825) and Al-Kindi (On the Use of the Hindu Numerals, c.830). The system later spread to medieval Europe by the High Middle Ages."

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hindu%E2%80%93Arabic_numeral_system

most of arab mathematics and science is based on stolen and borrowed Hindu/Indian mathematics and science.


basta/rd Islamic invaders till date have killed estimated 280 million Indians which include Hindus Sikhs Jains Buddhists

I stand corrected then.
Do you have another source besides Wikipedia?
The word stolen is a bit harsh though, whatever you're thinking of, someone else in the world is thinking the same. Democracy practiced around the world today is based on ancient Athens yet America postures as the poster country for it.


Have you heard of the horrors that happened on both sides during The partition?

https://www.google.com.ng/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&url=http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/asia/partition-pakistan-india-70-years-radcliffe-line-british-empire-hindu-muslim-a7887631.html%3Famp&ved=0ahUKEwjh6qD4sczWAhUNbFAKHcDlBpgQFggjMAA&usg=AOvVaw1v2bt2dvTYqf4G2ivsBvVD&ampcf=1

Or till date how Hindus in India emboldened by Modi's Hindu rhetoric have launched attacks on Muslims in growing numbers.

I suppose it was the Muslims that started the Holocaust? Or they were the ones that felt so bad about their roles in not preventing it, that they chose to resettle Jews on a land where they had the weakest of claims not giving a damn who has been there for centuries.

The crux is Violence is not because of religion. It is a human condition. As long as the world continues spinning, there will be violent acts perpetrated under the cover of whatever one feels strongly about.

I mean a war was started because of a woman, not to downplay the importance of women but 1 single woman!!!

Cause and Effect

What people don't seem to get is that Uyghurs are not migrants. They have been in Xinjiang for centuries. And are not recent converts to Islam.

What we see here is the same thing China did/doing to Tibet. That's why they have been promoting the migration of Han Chinese so they can become the majority.

Religion can bring people together and when people are together, they demand control of their destiny.
The Communist Party can't allow a challenge to their authority.

Simple politics

ibkgab001:

True true copy copy they have started vigils

huh

kogi2010:
my brother no compulsion in Islam u don't force ppl in to Islam. the koran says don't oppress n do not oppressed islam is peace

The quran truly says that, but it also says "O Prophet, fight against the disbelievers and the hypocrites and be harsh upon them. And their refuge is Hell, and wretched is the destination". You see, there are choices to be made here.

kogi2010:
my brother no compulsion in Islam u don't force ppl in to Islam. the koran says don't oppress n do not oppressed islam is peace

Where did it say that?

olayinka63:
I can see some Nigerians heart filled with happiness as if they are already in their promised paradise. They are trying to cover the wind of Islam, but Allah is more powerful. There is no way you Chinese government can remove symbol of Islam from Muslims, Quran are already memorized, the tongues can frequently Recite adhkar and the Quran , the hijab and Islamic clothes are there, prayers and fasting can be observed.... ... They can only try but won't successful. You fake Muslims and Dullard Nigerian Christians should go and hug huh transformer.

Define a fake muslim

Aliyumahmud007:
Some people are jst mentall deranged,how could u support killing of innocent souls? No matter the difference in skin colour or religion we are all human being nd equal. Bt know one thing,dey can only kill Muslims bt can't kill islam. No matter wot,islam shall always increase nd prevail

but you supported the killing and proscription of ipob , right?

ArewaYouths:




You must be a fool, how can you compare me with Islamic terrorists fighting for prophet Muhammad

Both of them have killed thousands of people

And you want billions of people to be killed. Who is the fool here?

osazsky:
go study your Qur'an or u want me to show u Mohammed teachings

And I can show you the verse that says your religion should be yours. The question is: how many has been forced? Even in Bible, there are many verses which are not just implementable. Spare me that.

Denchturbo:



Don't be myopic. I'm not even Muslim. Is it the UAE that is rapidly developing, or is it Syria or Libya that were fine before America decided to meddle.

Or even Afghanistan for that matter. It was fine before the US decided to arm the Taliban to fight the Russians, only to have the Taliban face them..


I could go on but it'll be lost on you.

just sharap... we need to corner this terrorist and burn all of them to ashes .... so nah America pushed MohamMAD to start terrorism in middle east

Kokaine:
you can take his life but not his soul. if he died in such a state, Alhamdullillah! this dunya is brief, even the shooter is not promised tomorrow, but in the akhira, he will receive his wages in full.

for the kafir, in the hearafter, they will seek to offer their children, their wives, and everything in the world to bail themselves off Allah's wrath, but it will not be accepted from them. the torment is in a blazing flame with no smoke, every time they get burnt, their skin will be replaced with a new one for the torment to be repeated. their torment is everlasting.

Now, how did you know that? De there de deceive ya sef.

GetMeRight:

And you want billions of people to be killed. Who is the fool here?

You lack sense

Killing terrorists don't make me a terrorist

wasiuworld1:
Dumb move,
what will they do to people who memorized it already ?

They will 4get it, China is greater than the entire Muslims in the world including prophet Muhammad, Aisha and Allah put together

abdulsemiu02:
You can only oppress Muslims, Islam as a religion can never be oppressed. It's a religion of Allah

Here in China we don't give a fvck about Allah and his religion

fuckerstard:
Chinese government for kuku ma send them out of the country. Some people eye no fit see ordinary knife na to start stabbing, i no blame the chinese at all.

Too much radicalism in Islam, some people go just decide to take everything personal for crazy reasons.

Dem full naija also.


Modified : Those of una quoting me saying trash, am a muslim too but not into all that crazy jihad/terrorist shiit. It's pointless

If you were a muslim citizen of China, would you advice such?
Your name speaks volume, dumbass.