christemmbassey:
money is spiritual......? What type of gospel is that? Which book, chapter n verse? Old boi o, no fall CE hand nah!

ifeness:


You see how unreasonable you are! You raised a topic without a shred of evidence and you want people to share your ignorance? Silly guy!

Jagoon:


Despite the long epistle you just wrote, you did not even attempt to answer any of the questions I asked? Kindly answer them one by one and quote precise scripture to prove each answer. If you are unable to do this we will have to conclude that your position on tithes is not biblical but just your opinion and that of your church pastor who benefits from it.

henry255:


Lol, you are very funny.
I will no longer write long epistle as u rightly called it.
Bible defines tithes as tenth of the produce of the earth consecrated and set apart for special purposes.

The purpose for tithes: to fill the house of God Mal 3:10.

The beneficiaries of tithes: you are one of the beneficiaries because as u give, it shall be given unto you. Luke 6:38. Also 2cor 9:6.

Pastors are entitled to collect tithes becos it is in the scriptures. (store house which is the church).

If you don't accept it, then denounce your belief and become a muslim. PERIOD

I am not here to argue with anybody.

Jagoon:


You failed to provide relevant scriptures to buttress your point but thankfully from your answer we can see that tithes is not money. And since when did the church become the storehouse or levites become pasrtor

henry255:


Please educate me if church can't be referred to as storehouse.

Why tithe is now in monetary value is because u can only bring the profit of your sales in monetary form.

Be it pastors, reverends etc they are presiding over the church just as the man is the head of the family, so are they.

Go seek for biblical knowledge from your church. Attend bible school, it will open your spiritual eyes to the things of the kingdom.

Jagoon:


Obviously you have a lot to learn about tithes and true christianity. If you are interested in learning let me know as I am not ready for any argument now.

godjb:
Tithe is one tenth of your produce, it is meant for supplies of foods, wine and basic things in the temple of God, it is meant for food and meat in the temple of God, it is meant for a levite in the temple of God.

Now who is a levite??
Descendants of Levi. The work of ministering in the sanctuary was assigned to this tribe. The Levites are sometimes spoken of as distinct from the priests (1 Kgs. 8:4; Ezra 2:70; John 1:19); sometimes as though all Levites were also priests, “the priests, the Levites” (Deut. 18:1; Josh. 3:3). The work of the Levites was to assist the priest (Num. 3:5-10).

Do we have levite today??
A person can be a levite if he is a descendant of Levi, and another tribe of isreal cannot claim a levite except he is born a Levi.

Can the Gentles function as a levite??
No, even the other tribe of Isreal cannot function as a levite without being born a Levi.

Why does God advocate a tithe
1) that their will be food, wine and meat in the place of worship
2) that the levite may also have inheritance through the tithe since they are not permitted to own a personal property or work outside the temple.
3) that the less privilege and sojourn may have means to survive.

Does the levite have full access to the tithe??
No, only a portion is allocated to them. And other portion for food, wine and meat in the temple.

Do we still have Levitical office
Today both Jew and Gentile are one in Christ -- there is no longer any distinction between the two. (Galatians 3:28) In the New Testament Christians constitute spiritual Israel and are the spiritual descendants of Abraham. (Rom. 9:7-8; Gal. 3:7-. The Law of Moses established and supported the Levitcal priesthood. Since Christ was not of the tribe of Levi, He could not have been a priest if that law were still in effect. (Hebrews 7:12-13). Moreover, under the New Covenant all Christians are priests. (1 Peter 2:5, 9).

godjb:
Tithe is one tenth of your produce, it is meant for supplies of foods, wine and basic things in the temple of God, it is meant for food and meat in the temple of God, it is meant for a levite in the temple of God.

Now who is a levite??
Descendants of Levi. The work of ministering in the sanctuary was assigned to this tribe. The Levites are sometimes spoken of as distinct from the priests (1 Kgs. 8:4; Ezra 2:70; John 1:19); sometimes as though all Levites were also priests, “the priests, the Levites” (Deut. 18:1; Josh. 3:3). The work of the Levites was to assist the priest (Num. 3:5-10).

Do we have levite today??
A person can be a levite if he is a descendant of Levi, and another tribe of isreal cannot claim a levite except he is born a Levi.

Can the Gentles function as a levite??
No, even the other tribe of Isreal cannot function as a levite without being born a Levi.

Why does God advocate a tithe
1) that their will be food, wine and meat in the place of worship
2) that the levite may also have inheritance through the tithe since they are not permitted to own a personal property or work outside the temple.
3) that the less privilege and sojourn may have means to survive.

Does the levite have full access to the tithe??
No, only a portion is allocated to them. And other portion for food, wine and meat in the temple.

Do we still have Levitical office
Today both Jew and Gentile are one in Christ -- there is no longer any distinction between the two. (Galatians 3:28) In the New Testament Christians constitute spiritual Israel and are the spiritual descendants of Abraham. (Rom. 9:7-8; Gal. 3:7-. The Law of Moses established and supported the Levitcal priesthood. Since Christ was not of the tribe of Levi, He could not have been a priest if that law were still in effect. (Hebrews 7:12-13). Moreover, under the New Covenant all Christians are priests. (1 Peter 2:5, 9).

christemmbassey:
there is no single verse in the entire bible where God or Jesus command Christians to pay 10% of their salaries/wages to God, Jesus or church. PAYMENT OF TITHES IN CHRISTIANITY IS THE BIGEST FRAUD IN THE WORLD.

henry255:



That the new testament did not bring it to your notice does not mean Jesus abolished it.
Several places in the old testament laid claims to the credibility and necessity in the act of tithing.
Every practical Christian Order practiced in the old was not condemned in the new but rather, it was more or less restructured and or modernized to differentiate true christianity from religion. Eg burnt offering. Etc.

Tithing is NEVER a fraud. If you don't pay tithes and offering, nothing will revitalize the ordained and move him forward.

Ofcos in life, no one survives witot money. The priests in the old were not expected to own businesses; it is the church that looks into their welfare. Now how does this money come, through offering and tithing.

henry255:



That the new testament did not bring it to your notice does not mean Jesus abolished it.
Several places in the old testament laid claims to the credibility and necessity in the act of tithing.
Every practical Christian Order practiced in the old was not condemned in the new but rather, it was more or less restructured and or modernized to differentiate true christianity from religion. Eg burnt offering. Etc.

henry255:


Tithing is NEVER a fraud. If you don't pay tithes and offering, nothing will revitalize the ordained and move him forward.


Ofcos in life, no one survives witot money. The priests in the old were not expected to own businesses; it is the church that looks into their welfare. Now how does this money come, through offering and tithing.

henry255:



That the new testament did not bring it to your notice does not mean Jesus abolished it.
Several places in the old testament laid claims to the credibility and necessity in the act of tithing.
Every practical Christian Order practiced in the old was not condemned in the new but rather, it was more or less restructured and or modernized to differentiate true christianity from religion. Eg burnt offering. Etc.

Tithing is NEVER a fraud. If you don't pay tithes and offering, nothing will revitalize the ordained and move him forward.

Ofcos in life, no one survives witot money. The priests in the old were not expected to own businesses; it is the church that looks into their welfare. Now how does this money come, through offering and tithing.

henry255:



That the new testament did not bring it to your notice does not mean Jesus abolished it.
Several places in the old testament laid claims to the credibility and necessity in the act of tithing.
Every practical Christian Order practiced in the old was not condemned in the new but rather, it was more or less restructured and or modernized to differentiate true christianity from religion. Eg burnt offering. Etc.

Tithing is NEVER a fraud. If you don't pay tithes and offering, nothing will revitalize the ordained and move him forward.

Ofcos in life, no one survives witot money. [i][/i]The priests in the old were not expected to own businesses; it is the church that looks into their welfare. Now how does this money come, through offering and tithing.

Goshen360:
^ ^ ^
Great Grace to you, thou man of God. Continue the good fight of faith....until the "Nigeria" kind of Christianity is liberated from pollution.

Cutehector:
there was also a reason why God asked abel and cain to gv to him a tenth of what dey produced...

Esdb3:


Last bullet; these things are just to show appreciation to GOD if you keep thinking it is to enrich your pastor stop giving it cause it is wastage.

christemmbassey:
So why should I?

christemmbassey:
My man of God, great grace to you sir! The fraudsters are not relenting o, we must continue to stress God's law that sets men free against the fraudulent law of sin and death of d old testament. We must continue to insist on Grae and Peace of the Cross ofJ esus against The very weak law of Moses . Stay Graced.

christemmbassey:
So why should I?

oaroloye:
SHALOM!



Even because you are not his equal, nor his peer, but his inferior and his subordinate.

Don't babble about things you know absolutely nothing about!

. LUKE 8:1-3.

AND it came to pass afterward,
that he went throughout every city and village,
preaching and shewing the Glad Tidings
of The Kingdom of God:
and the Twelve were with him,
2. And certain women,
which had been healed
of evil spirits and infirmities,
Mary called Magdalene,
out of whom went seven devils,
3. And Joanna
the wife of Chuza Herod's steward,
and Susanna,
and many others,
which ministered unto him
of their substance.

(Do like ME, and babble about things you know something about...!)

orisa37:
Don't compare Jesus, a Spirit Son, with Humans. Christ is God. God creates

orisa37:
Humans organise and for smooth organization, there must be contributions by members to run organizations.
Such contributions are Tithes and Offerings.

orisa37:
Don't compare Jesus, a Spirit Son, with Humans. Christ is God. God creates. Humans organise and for smooth organization, there must be contributions by members to run organizations. Such contributions are Tithes and Offerings.

mecuzee:
You should TO FULFIL ALL RIGHTEOUSNESS

henry255:


My brother, the concept of tithing has been far long misconstrued and emphasized to the point that most benefits of untithers are not connected to it but the scripture has commanded us to fill the store house.


The main principle behind tithing and giving is the fact that what we do with our money shows where our heart is. Check Matt 6:21  When we are able to give 10% or more of our income instead of keeping that money for ourselves, it shows that our heart isn't tied to our money and that we love God more than our money.  Mind you, it was never made compulsory but to build the spirit man. If you can pay tax, why can't you pay tithe?

The scripture most frequently referenced regarding the tithe is indeed in the old testament (Mal 3:10-12) abi?, but the tithe is also referenced in the new. In Mat23:23, Jesus talks to the farisees, condemning dem 4 tithing to the penny but neglecting the more important issues of justice, mercy and faith.  He then goes on to tell them that they should in fact tithe, but that they shouldn't neglect the more important things. Jesus recognized the importance of keeping the tithe and we should, too. 

If I still have time I will keep writing but i'm preparing for work.

If you can read 2cor 9: from verse 6, u go see say giving is also associated with tithing. Tithe is a term in biblical kingdom that is connected to spiritual and financial growth.
When you give (tithe) to God, you are reaping bountiful because life is spiritual.

Very few churches today disagree with the tithing concept claiming it's only in the old testament. But in the new, a broader explanation was adopted.
So many tins in the old which was abolished in the new like burnt offering, circumcision etc, in the new, it was still offering, but not burnt.

I don't expect such question to come from the likes of the OP cos I understand he is a member of christ embassy which I am a member too.

Bro, don't be deceived. Don't be one of those that say tithing enriches your pastor becos even in the bible, Jesus christ never lived like a poor man but lived a righteous life.

Goodmorning y'all

brocab:
We are fulfilling all righteousness, and tithing is not one of them..