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Re: 2017 National Marian Congress Holds In Benin(pictures) by nairanaira12: 7:00pm On Oct 14, 2017 |
BluntBoy: So, you now agree that Mary's birth was preplanned? Why were you lying initially that she was just a vessel? Would you preplan something to be picked and used at random like an ordinary, unimportant vessel? This is very bad. Like I told you earlier, you are bound as a Christian to honour Mary the same way you will honour your earthly mother. |
Re: 2017 National Marian Congress Holds In Benin(pictures) by BluntBoy(m): 7:04pm On Oct 14, 2017 |
nairanaira12: What more blessing could it have been to always be remembered as the one who gave birth to the savior. I never tried to substitute remember for blessed Blessed are the poor... Does it mean the poor are more special human beings? |
Re: 2017 National Marian Congress Holds In Benin(pictures) by BluntBoy(m): 7:05pm On Oct 14, 2017 |
nairanaira12: Jeremiah was preplanned too. So, how does it make the prophet someone to bow down to? |
Re: 2017 National Marian Congress Holds In Benin(pictures) by nairanaira12: 7:08pm On Oct 14, 2017 |
BluntBoy: Stop being unreasonable. You are just an obstinate fellow. Go back to the series of responses I've already given you and pick your answer to that question from there. I won't waste my time replying you anymore. Its clear your motive is not to discover the truth, but to push what you feel is the truth down the throat of others. |
Re: 2017 National Marian Congress Holds In Benin(pictures) by BluntBoy(m): 7:08pm On Oct 14, 2017 |
nairanaira12: Is your existence preplanned? |
Re: 2017 National Marian Congress Holds In Benin(pictures) by nairanaira12: 7:09pm On Oct 14, 2017 |
BluntBoy: Go back to my previous responses. You doing deserve further answers from me. |
Re: 2017 National Marian Congress Holds In Benin(pictures) by nairanaira12: 7:11pm On Oct 14, 2017 |
BluntBoy: Looks like reason problem is one of your several problems. Read the comment you quoted again and ask yourself why you are quoting me wrongly. |
Re: 2017 National Marian Congress Holds In Benin(pictures) by BluntBoy(m): 7:11pm On Oct 14, 2017 |
nairanaira12: Mr Man, keep your idolatry to yourself. You want to use preplan as a tool to push your argument in favour of your unbiblical act of bowing down to Mary and I decided to use that preplan to rubbish your point. Was Judas preplanned to betray Jesus? 1 Like |
Re: 2017 National Marian Congress Holds In Benin(pictures) by BluntBoy(m): 7:14pm On Oct 14, 2017 |
nairanaira12: Insult will not help you How does Mary's confirmation of joy at the prospect of giving birth to the savior elevate Mary to the status of a God that must be bowed down to? 1 Like |
Re: 2017 National Marian Congress Holds In Benin(pictures) by Emperor002: 7:16pm On Oct 14, 2017 |
Mother i love u forgive those who blasphem thee |
Re: 2017 National Marian Congress Holds In Benin(pictures) by BluntBoy(m): 7:21pm On Oct 14, 2017 |
nairanaira12, according to you, Mary was preplanned and that elevates her beyond being a vessel. Was Judas preplanned? Think before answering this question or you may just end up shooting yourself in the foot. 1 Like |
Re: 2017 National Marian Congress Holds In Benin(pictures) by Megatrix: 7:24pm On Oct 14, 2017 |
Waste of time and manpower 1 Like |
Re: 2017 National Marian Congress Holds In Benin(pictures) by BluntBoy(m): 7:25pm On Oct 14, 2017 |
Emperor002: Mary is dead, bro. She can't forgive sins. Only Christ can. |
Re: 2017 National Marian Congress Holds In Benin(pictures) by Megatrix: 7:27pm On Oct 14, 2017 |
Emperor002: She has no power to forgive anybody. She is dead 1 Like |
Re: 2017 National Marian Congress Holds In Benin(pictures) by femi4: 7:45pm On Oct 14, 2017 |
NwaEzefuNaMba:mary will not save you....keep fooling yourself |
Re: 2017 National Marian Congress Holds In Benin(pictures) by femi4: 7:46pm On Oct 14, 2017 |
Emperor002:Mary cannot forgive sin.....thats blasphemy too |
Re: 2017 National Marian Congress Holds In Benin(pictures) by Andy2274: 7:54pm On Oct 14, 2017 |
If respecting and honouring the MOTHER of JESUS is a sin then respecting and honouring or bowing down to greet your mother is a sin. If the MOTHER of JESUS is a vessel then your mother is a vessel in your father's house. If honouring MARY is Idolatry then honouring your mother is idolatry. How can someone call your mother a vessel but come to you for help? You call the MOTHER of JESUS a vessel and honouring her as Idolatry but you call JESUS CHRIST to save you. When you see the wife of your pastor you bow down to greet her but you cannot respect and honour the MOTHER of JESUS. If bowing to greet MARY is Idolatry then calling your pastors wife MUMMY and bowing to greet her is idolatry too. Nigerians claimed to be too religious yet they are the worse people on earth. If you are not comfortable with Catholics honouring MARY go hang yourself because there is nothing you can do about it. Catholic for life.........AVE!!!!!!! MARIAE 1 Like
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Re: 2017 National Marian Congress Holds In Benin(pictures) by monex(m): 8:18pm On Oct 14, 2017 |
Mpanyi:depends on what one defines worship as. The implicit meaning of worship is the Latria (Worship given to God alone). However there are other types of worship: Dulia - for Saints Hyperdulia - for Mary Dulia and Hyperdulia are loosely called Honor or reverence in english Bowing does not necessarily mean Latria as we bow to our parents. the real issue for Non-catholics is bowing to an Image/statue. Therein lies the problem with the catholic understanding of symbolism. indeed all humans have an element of symbolic reverence but we can say catholics take it much further. from someone who attends the catholic church but not a catholic |
Re: 2017 National Marian Congress Holds In Benin(pictures) by monex(m): 8:22pm On Oct 14, 2017 |
Sirheny007: doctrinally the Catholic church does not accord Mary worship, but some people already idolise her without knowing. A Catholic once used an analogy comparing Mary's glory with her Son using the word "nearly". I had to ask him if one could compare a finite, no matter how large, with an infinite. Mary's Glory becomes negligible (--> zero) when compared with our Lord. This is Church teaching 1 Like |
Re: 2017 National Marian Congress Holds In Benin(pictures) by monex(m): 8:29pm On Oct 14, 2017 |
BluntBoy: do you worship your parents when you bow to them? 2 Likes |
Re: 2017 National Marian Congress Holds In Benin(pictures) by Venica(f): 8:30pm On Oct 14, 2017 |
bishop Elue . The bishop that baptized me when i was still a catholic . i still love the bishop . very meek n lowly soul |
Re: 2017 National Marian Congress Holds In Benin(pictures) by Andy2274: 8:37pm On Oct 14, 2017 |
I love this trend......lol! Just today this topic has gotten more than 146 comment and over 9555 views under 12hrs..just because it concerns CATHOLIC yet they cannot bring the CHURCH down...........GLORY TO JESUS! HONOUR To MARY! Since you cannot beat them why not leave them? If you are not comfortable go embrace live wire or pluck out your eyes 1 Like
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Re: 2017 National Marian Congress Holds In Benin(pictures) by BluntBoy(m): 8:42pm On Oct 14, 2017 |
monex: No, but if I erect an image of my parents and bow down to them, then I am an idolator. And God would not like that. The Bible was clear about what constituted idolatry. And, Mary is not my mother, neither is she the mother of Christians. She was the earthly mother of Jesus the Christ. Not the mother of God. Jesus as God preceded Mary. Mary was a vessel in bringing Jesus the man into the world just as Judas was a vessel used in betraying Him into the hands of the enemies. Everyone was merely playing a role. At the end, the only thing that mattered was the huge sacrifice Jesus made. 1 Like |
Re: 2017 National Marian Congress Holds In Benin(pictures) by monex(m): 8:47pm On Oct 14, 2017 |
BluntBoy: so the issue is about an image. hence my previous post about Catholics taking the idea of Symbolic reverence to uncomfortable areas for most non-catholics. I cannot argue with you about that. it took me time to be comfortable with bowing to a cross of Our Lord. 1 Like |
Re: 2017 National Marian Congress Holds In Benin(pictures) by franchuks(m): 8:51pm On Oct 14, 2017 |
Hail Queen of Heaven... Happy October 13th Apparition to all Marian Children.. 1 Like |
Re: 2017 National Marian Congress Holds In Benin(pictures) by Andy2274: 8:52pm On Oct 14, 2017 |
BluntBoy:. No wonder you are bluntboy. So your mother is a vessel that was used to bring you into the world. The only thing that matters to you father is you not your mother. My brother don't because you want to win an argument start saying meaningless things. 1 Like |
Re: 2017 National Marian Congress Holds In Benin(pictures) by freshboi88: 8:54pm On Oct 14, 2017 |
BluntBoy: That place in revelation said a child not children, we're r u getting thus heretic interpretation. Who gave birth to a child who will rule the world with a staff of authority...is it u or is it me...u guys lack understanding of scripture. Many in her song of praise, under the inspiration of the holy spirit said all generations will call me blessed.....honoring Mary today is only a fulfilment of that declaration 1 Like |
Re: 2017 National Marian Congress Holds In Benin(pictures) by BluntBoy(m): 8:54pm On Oct 14, 2017 |
monex: It is not just about the image. It is also about the idea that Mary should be honored because she was the earthly mother of Jesus. It is unbiblical. We all know she was the earthly mother of Jesus but then, we were never told that she should be this elevated, even in death. It is enough blessings that she would forever be remembered as the one who found such huge favour but it doesn't and can never make her an intercessor. Nowhere in the Bible does it say Mary has been resurrected and now sits at the right hand of God. Mary is dead. She can't hear your prayers. |
Re: 2017 National Marian Congress Holds In Benin(pictures) by BluntBoy(m): 9:00pm On Oct 14, 2017 |
freshboi88: The poor were also called blessed. So, what is your point? The woman in revelation could have been anything. Schools of thoughts are divided over Mary, the Church or the nations of Israel. You are obviously very unfamiliar with symbolism. That Child was used does not mean it must mean a single entity. |
Re: 2017 National Marian Congress Holds In Benin(pictures) by Nobody: 9:24pm On Oct 14, 2017 |
IdisuleOurOwn: You are right. I have followed that scenario up till about two months ago when a priest from Mbaise serving abroad wrote a letter to Pope indirectly attacking an Arch Bishop (non ibo) appointed by Pope to make sure the decision of papacy is executed. He said the Anambra Bishop is not acceptable to his people |
Re: 2017 National Marian Congress Holds In Benin(pictures) by Alexandro15: 9:25pm On Oct 14, 2017 |
BluntBoy: One of the greatest mistake of Pentecostalism is to try to separate the divinity from the humanity of Christ while he was on earth. Jesus was fully GOD and fully MAN. United in the one person of Jesus are these two natures. In this sense, Mart is the mother of Jesus who is God so she is the Mother of God. Thus, I echo what the Early church fathers in the year 431 at Ephesus declared: "according to his divinity, born of his Father before all ages, according to his humanity, born of the virgin Mary for us and for our salvation, a union was made of these two natures...in accord with this understanding of the unconfused union, we confess that the holy virgin is the Mother of God..." There, you have seen it. As early as 431 the early church has already confessed to this truth. Jesus gave his mother to the church and the church to his mother when he was on the pulpit of the cross. He said " behold your Mother". I don't know about you but I honour my Mother. As to how many times Jesus mentioned Mary, I think that is besides the point. but so you should know, though the WRITERS mentioned Mary just few times, all of those times have great significant meaning. Thank you brother. 3 Likes |
Re: 2017 National Marian Congress Holds In Benin(pictures) by monex(m): 9:27pm On Oct 14, 2017 |
BluntBoy: That now is the question of the doctrine of intercession. This one isnt about Mary but about all the saints. Baba the real issues plenty and it is usually not about Mary |
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