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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Humility017(m): 3:20pm On Oct 21, 2017
komekn:


These are incredible assumption with multiple variables to make any kind of futuristic projection is entirely flawed.

If Awoniyi had not been born in Nigeria and played U17 he would not have been known.

If he was born in England he may have chosen, athletics, basketball, rugby, cycling, boxing, etc etc.and not football.

If he chose football who says he would have made the cut. Let's say he was born in Dalston Hackney and decided to be a drug dealer, and gun totting gangster. Or in the alternative be a musician.

Or study and become a Doctor, accountant or lawyer.

You simply cannot make those kind of futuristic assumptions because you are born in England. Was it not that idiot Michael Adebanjo that in his misguided fanaticism beheaded a off duty soldier in broad day light in London. He was born in London if he was born in Nigeria that would never have happened.

So you see using futuristic probables based on location of birth is simply not feasible.

hmm.....had it been he is British ..and he choosed to play football...with all things being equal....with his present football skills and talent...he will probably make the cut in Liverpool and not be fummed out on loan
even many a time some of this English clubs find it difficult going after Africa players and capping those they're already signed like Henry onyekuru because of the work permit rule....not necessarily that they're not good enough....

it is a bit more easier for English citizens to thrive and be given opportunities than non British especially Africans.... also the world class facilities at the academics and teams can hardly be seen elsewhere in Africa....
this sometimes work against this lads when they leave for Europe I remember enyeama during his trials at Bolton wanderers of England...

I just comment your point up there....really reasonable. but I think sir goodjoe write earlier from my angle...
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by komekn(m): 3:31pm On Oct 21, 2017
Humility017:

see how you shift goal post...

if we should go wit your postulations....of highly ranked leagues in the world...
what position is Scottish league and French league...then compare both.

you've fogotten that same Scotland prefer their players to be drawn from the English championship and probably only Celtic...

You seem to have completely lost the context. Which is the Quality of Efe Ambrose as a CB.

Efe Ambrose was pivotal in pushing Hibernian into the Scottish premiership. Hibernian then held Celtic to a draw with his performances central to that result. Efe was dropped from Celtic as he and Rogers do not see eye to eye.

His moves to the EPL broke down on work permit issues I suspect he is waiting to complete immigration requirements in order to bypass the work permit issues.

The more pertinent question is that is a bench warmer in much better team and higher league who has barely had 10 professional games. Better than a 28 year old proven tested and experienced defender who has played many seasons in the Champions league with credibility.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by safarigirl(f): 3:44pm On Oct 21, 2017
komekn:


You seem to have completely lost the context. Which is the Quality of Efe Ambrose as a CB.

Efe Ambrose was pivotal in pushing Hibernian into the Scottish premiership. Hibernian then held Celtic to a draw with his performances central to that result. Efe was dropped from Celtic as he and Rogers do not see eye to eye.

His moves to the EPL broke down on work permit issues I suspect he is waiting to complete immigration requirements in order to bypass the work permit issues.

The more pertinent question is that is a bench warmer in much better team and higher league who has barely had 10 professional games. Better than a 28 year old proven tested and experienced defender who has played many seasons in the Champions league with credibility.

you people should leave Ambrose to continue his work in his club abeg, he has tried for the National Team and vice versa. Awaziem is the second choice CB, we don't need an old guy to back up another aging player.

Hian! Before we know it, someone will mention Taribo West for a recall

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Eligreat247: 3:58pm On Oct 21, 2017
Mickael2:



how do we play in a more compact fashion NOW? Omeruo's game against Zambia came a long long time before the game against SA, it can be assumed that we got even better before the SA game yet Awaziem's performace wasn't up to par. Now I don't want to go back to the idea that we don't have a team without Mikel until such a scenario happens again so I will just have to agree that Ekong-Awaziem does not work. Omeruo-Awaziem would be a lot better
All this "Ekong-Awaziem does not work" if I may ask, how many times have they been paired? I think it was only against SA which I understand wasn't cool. So what's the crime of trying that combo again? I think that's the purpose of friendlies. its just like saying what did not work for you can never be tested again....
Bottom line: let's try again and see, but based on outcome from camping.
my humble opinion though

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by tobsonkings: 4:01pm On Oct 21, 2017
How did United crashed at the Johns Smith Stadium to Huddersfield after 45 minutes
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by jotey(m): 4:02pm On Oct 21, 2017
komekn:


You seem to have completely lost the context. Which is the Quality of Efe Ambrose as a CB.

Efe Ambrose was pivotal in pushing Hibernian into the Scottish premiership. Hibernian then held Celtic to a draw with his performances central to that result. Efe was dropped from Celtic as he and Rogers do not see eye to eye.

His moves to the EPL broke down on work permit issues I suspect he is waiting to complete immigration requirements in order to bypass the work permit issues.

The more pertinent question is that is a bench warmer in much better team and higher league who has barely had 10 professional games. Better than a 28 year old proven tested and experienced defender who has played many seasons in the Champions league with credibility.


is this not komekn?

someone that does not rate another league apart from EPL

now you are clamouring for Ambrose way dae play for Scotland league way be say ligue 1 beat hands down nawa o
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by safarigirl(f): 4:12pm On Oct 21, 2017
jotey:


is this not komekn?

someone that does not rate another league apart from EPL

now you are clamouring for Ambrose way dae play for Scotland league way be say ligue 1 beat hands down nawa o
haba! Scotland is close to EPL now, he will rate them too....my own issue is that is the Scottish league better than Ligue1? No. I think not

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Clementoke(m): 4:23pm On Oct 21, 2017
tobsonkings:
How did United crashed at the Johns Smith Stadium to Huddersfield after 45 minutes


In case u aren't aware, this thread is to discuss our darling Super eagles team and not Man Utd

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Mujtahida: 4:28pm On Oct 21, 2017
Joebie:
Let's learn to read the quotes if any. Take note that Uduokhai was not even quoted in this one.. OGN just quoted the journalist. And the journalist never said Uduokhai was approached recently.. Again, if it's true Uduokhai said he wanted to focus on his game, that does not mean turning down Nigeria. Even Ebuehi said something similar back then. We need to stop putting words into people's mouth. If I say i want to focus on my game, I could mean i want to settle in properly in my club.. That in no way means turning down Nigeria... smh.. it simply means give me time.
That very very rude girl/Tunde analogy comes to mind.


Those OGN guys ehn they are killing sports journalism in Nigeria with this shitty tales and spin on information. I hardly believe them ooo. You will never find completesports.com going this way. Mumuni Alao is an old hand.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Nobody: 4:33pm On Oct 21, 2017
safarigirl:
haba! Scotland is close to EPL now, he will rate them too....my own issue is that is the Scottish league better than Ligue1? No. I think not


Dem no be mate at all. Celtic will will be struggling to hold no. 15 in Ligue 1 table.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Orkpekyandega(m): 4:55pm On Oct 21, 2017
terzurum5:

Makes me remember how we use to edit Joseph1013, TheSuperNerd's posts just to master the format.

For those who have not mastered the practice, you can click on the "quote" command as if you want to quote a post. By so doing learn one or two things on how to post news.
cc: Orkpekyandega
And also those days of lashing by Safari..........

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by femianski: 4:58pm On Oct 21, 2017
kelechi really needs to buckle up okazaki scored

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by oloriooko(m): 4:58pm On Oct 21, 2017
England U17 whipping USA 3-0
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by daveP(m): 4:59pm On Oct 21, 2017
tbaba1234:
First Friendly...
Nigeria vs Argentina
Nov 14
in Russia

With Balogun and Moses out, good chance to test players.
1st south american team! 6more friendlies to go. we go chop o. lets learn to dominate them this time.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Nobody: 5:08pm On Oct 21, 2017
Only ndidi (and Tammy ) repped naija @ leicester win away vs Swansea...

In my own, any player whatsoever that ain't getting playtime shouldn't deserve to be on the super eagles list...NO MATTER WHOSE OX IS GORED angry
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Orkpekyandega(m): 5:08pm On Oct 21, 2017
safarigirl:
and how do you know a 21-year old when you see one?

We have dealt with these ridiculous claims by your ilk numerous times that is why most people chose to ignore, but it's about time your nonsense claims got shot down.


If Kelechi is 27, that would be really sad because I have never seen a 27-year old man who acts so much like a kid as he does. This is someone that can comfortably play around with the likes of Iwobi and Awaziem, a truly 27-year old guy would not be so playful.


Kelechi was 5ft.11' as at 2013, but is currently 6ft.2", now if we are to believe this idiocy that he was 23 as at 2013, then explain the increase in height.

Even if Kelechi is not 21, I still maintain that he is no older than 23.

That is how people told us Mikel was 30 in 2005, somehow, he is still playing football 12 years later at the grand old age of 42.

Some weeks ago, someone said Ajiboye was married with kids as at 2007, thankfully, I have a roommate who knows his wife and they got married two years ago and have just one baby.

I have said times without number that you people who come online to defame these famous people deserve jail time if you cannot prove your claims

Kindly keep shut if you are just blabbing because you think you know what you obviously don't
Thank you so much.
You tackled his ignorance and brought out the truth of the matter in great perspective.

"Comment of the week"

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by terzurum5(m): 5:12pm On Oct 21, 2017
Orkpekyandega:

And also those days of lashing by Safari..........
You no de forget ni
gringrin

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Mujtahida: 5:26pm On Oct 21, 2017
TheGoodJoe:


I said Iheanacho is not a tap in merchant and you are typing it is not something to be ashamed of. Go and watch Iheanacho's goals for Nigeria and City. You will see he is not a tap in merchant.
You that will look at Rohr and pin conservative style on him because he doesn't field your mind but now the same you doesn't want tap in merchant to be pinned on Iheanacho because you are his deep fan. It's all sentiments but you will never agree

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by tbaba1234: 5:32pm On Oct 21, 2017
komekn:


He has played 5 games and how many did he start He is not the first choice CB with those stats if the truth must be told.

He was red carded which caused him to miss a game. He has been a regular for the most part. In the last few games, he has certainly been first choice.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Mujtahida: 5:35pm On Oct 21, 2017
We have coaches here ooo who are better than Rohr oo- coaches who are daring, play beautiful, crisp, all out attacking football a la Barcelona style here on this thread. Pinnick just didn't do the necessary background check, he'd have employed from here. We have Gaurdiola, Sampaoli and the venerable Alex Ferguson here.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by terzurum5(m): 5:37pm On Oct 21, 2017
tbaba1234:


The Taye Taiwo story was a false rumor.

As regards Kelechi, He passed an MRI test which places his age at +/- 2 years with a 99% probability. Meaning he can't be more than 23. This is based on scientific evaluation.

Besides, Kelechi played for Nigeria under 13 and 15. This is Kelechi's picture in 2010.

www.nairaland.com/attachments/3798809_fbimg1464800873731_jpeg7dd0d95308e031f721938446e90e1e82

Besides, I have it on fairly reliable authority that Kelechi finished secondary school 2 years before under 17. Average age of finishing secondary school is 15-18 which puts him in the age -grade.

Do not mind some baseless accusations by some Nigerians on the e-forum. Though its a serious crime that calls for a lot of concern hence, it is not helping to better our already battered image. Maybe elyte89 thinks the picture above depicts the true personality of a 23yr old boy in 2010.

Scratches head.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by daveP(m): 5:43pm On Oct 21, 2017
The nacho bashing might take another dimension on here. what is really wrong.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by femianski: 5:45pm On Oct 21, 2017
krattoss:
Only ndidi (and Tammy ) repped naija @ leicester win away vs Swansea...

In my own, any player whatsoever that ain't getting playtime shouldn't deserve to be on the super eagles list...NO MATTER WHOSE OX IS GORED angry
agree

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by safarigirl(f): 5:46pm On Oct 21, 2017
daveP:
The nacho bashing might take another dimension on here. what is really wrong.
with who?
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by safarigirl(f): 5:50pm On Oct 21, 2017
Some people already drafting list on behalf of Rohr.....the way Nigerians are you get the feeling they are used to being abandoned when they have rough times, so, they don't hesitate to abandon others as well.


Make una go drag una brothers go Russia, coach without certificate tongue
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by safarigirl(f): 5:52pm On Oct 21, 2017
krattoss:
Only ndidi (and Tammy ) repped naija @ leicester win away vs Swansea...

In my own, any player whatsoever that ain't getting playtime shouldn't deserve to be on the super eagles list...NO MATTER WHOSE OX IS GORED angry
which Tammy? Abeg face your business and stop poking your nose in another man's own
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Orkpekyandega(m): 5:54pm On Oct 21, 2017
Mickael2:



2011 was six years ago, these 14year olds are probably recent guys. Even Awoniyi who was very brilliant(yes I knew his cousin) graduated when he was 17, 14 was impossible back then
Please stop arguing what you do not know. I have it on authority that a lot people graduated as far back as 2002 to 2007 withing the age bracket of 15 to 18. I graduated within this period and majority of my mates where not above 17yrs old.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by daveP(m): 5:55pm On Oct 21, 2017
safarigirl:
with who?
you're asking? with those that would soon bring him into the benchwarmers' discussion. my question persists though.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Mujtahida: 5:57pm On Oct 21, 2017
Reading through I noticed that there are two camps as regards the old players /new players debate. komekn, mickael2 are in the forefront calling for players like Obafemi Martins, Ike Uche, Efe to be recalled, Humility017 firmly leads the camp for the newbies to drive us into the future. Personally I wish Martins and co happy retirement. The only old player I'd love to see recalled is Enyeama and among the new players I'd definitely love to see Onyekuru, Dessers, Bazee, Tammy and either Uduokhai or Torunarigha in the mix. Once we have Enyeama, Mikel, Echiejile, Onazi and Ighalo that would complete the 'experienced players' plank at strategic points in the team.
Martins and the rest have become fans like the rest of us and they should be wishing the team success just as I saw Efe doing before our Match against Zambia. Soja come, Soja go, barrack still dey

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheGoodJoe(m): 5:59pm On Oct 21, 2017
komekn:
G

Mbappe came to Chelsea on trial at about age 11 but he didn't make the cut even played with Tega against Charlton Athletic.

So will you say it was nationality that prevented him.

I was at a premiership academy last night with the Director there were some guys doing thier badges coaching and had to observe the youth teams training.

These were U10 players majority had been there since age 5. In that group was a Nigerian boy on trial who had just relocated from Italy to England with his parents.

You know about drills, forms, philosophy and technical football. This boy didnt know the drills or the technical skills he was completely out of his depth. It's possible that after the 6 weeks trial he may improve and tune in and get a contract although highly unlikely. What I am saying at that young age your nationality is irrelevant. Consider that these boys are getting coached 4/5 times a week.

That's the first stage or first major hurdle to get past. At the age of 4/5 years old. There are no age group teams so how do you get in. Simply by network or as we say who no man. So let's say you had very little natural talent but after being coached 3/4 times a week after a two years talent and ability have been created. That's an unfair system.

I will talk about this in depth another time.

But I can assure you that boys of Black and or African origin are being discriminated against all the time. But much more pronounced in the North of England than the south.

So it's not easy for Solanke as you presume.


If the player is born in England or make it to the system early, the system is tilted to favor the child. All you are typing there does not disprove my position.

Saying Awo would have done this or that is just dribbling. He is a good footballer but denied a chance to develop at Liverpool due to his Nationality. You can not change that fact. Same with K. Nwakali and Chidiebere Nwakali. So it is not true saying Nationality does not matter. It does.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by safarigirl(f): 6:00pm On Oct 21, 2017
daveP:
you're asking? with those that would soon bring him into the benchwarmers' discussion. my question persists though.
our best performers are usually bench warmers, so, no problem....after all, Leon was warming bench in Mainz prior to the Cameroon game and look how great that turned out. As e go play how many games at his return, next thing na injury

Make dem dey warm bench o, in case the active guys decide to pick up injury before the World Cup proper, we go see who we go carry go Russia at least
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by do4luv14(m): 6:00pm On Oct 21, 2017
safarigirl:
which Tammy? Abeg face your business and stop poking your nose in another man's own



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