Msadesina:
Please where are all the chicago bound mums, how far now? Since CC don increase price now, una don dey port?

I'm chicago bound edd is mid march.

smokeydrinky:


Hi justwise. Where some one with an existing visa which has been used for the purpose it was gotten for gets pregnant along the line, and applies for another visa in other to clearly declare intention but gets denied, what becomes the status of the pre existing visa?

Such application is it via dropbox or what?
Can such a person be denied at all?
Is there a legal way to declare intention without applying for another visa? Since change of intent letter don't seem to carry much weight again?

The VO has addressed this issue here before and i refer you to it.

abujaniv:
Hello. We don’t normally post in this thread, but it seemed worthwhile to drop in and correct some misconceptions. We say this a lot, but it bears repeating: Birth tourism is legal in the US provided the applicant is open about their intention and pays the medical expenses in full. This means that the applicant should declare any such intention they have at the Embassy/Consulate and again at the port of entry.

If it happens that the applicant gets pregnant well after the initial visa interview, they will have the opportunity to make their intention, medical preparations and financial resources known at the POE. However, it will remain up to Customs and Border Patrol whether to allow that applicant into the country. Some are not, and they are put on the next flight home. This must be extremely uncomfortable for a heavily pregnant person, to spend 15-20 hours on a flight to America, several more hours being questioned, then another 15-20 hours on a plane home. This is what we want to avoid.

Onto some other misconceptions:
The concept of the “change of intent” letter is not valid. These e-mails are not read nor correlated with the applicant’s file. Some people who send such letters may get a form letter in response, but it is informational in nature and in no way confers permission to amend the declared purpose of travel. What matters is what you declare at the Embassy/Consulate and at the POE. After the fact e-mails do not carry any weight.

Some applicants say, “I applied for only the B2 visa to declare my medical intent.” The B1/B2 visa categories are conjoined, so applying for only one does not make any difference. Other applicants say, “I appeared at the window with a big belly,” as if this alone is enough to declare their medical intent. Again, the responsibility is on the applicant to be honest about what they plan to do in the US.

Other considerations:
Medical care is expensive in the US, and costs can escalate dramatically if there are complications.
Credibility is paramount in the US visa process. If visa officers detect any deception or obfuscation, no amount of excuses, documents or receipts will make up for the loss of credibility.

The choice is yours.

iykmon:
You can use your existing VISA for giving birth, so far you have the money and you have correspondence with a doctor In the US. You just have to be confident during the interview at the point of entry.
Applying for a new VÏSA will automatically cancel the existing one you have.
Try and read previous trends you will see people that have use their VÏSA other than the reason for previous visit.
All these people want to see is that you return back home and pay your bills and have your receipt. Your job back home matters to the VO. Just the truth is what they want to hear.

Thank you so much justwise and iykmon. Now I am at peace.

gazu007:


I'm chicago bound edd is mid march.

Hi @gazu007, I'm also due mid-late march so we should be in Chicago around the same time Do Do you mind if I pm you? It's the 1st time I'm going to a city with no family so any great company is welcome. Let me know.

Cheers.

Dear @Justwise ... I need clarification on a few things, please be patient with me. I'm an old timer but was away for a while so it seems some things have changed and I don't want to run foul.

We used to be allowed to find deals or use hospitals, come here and post entire cost breakdown per location. That was what made it fun and that is what has formed the backbone of what most newbies go to research now. Is that still allowed? Or we can no longer post cost implications of new finds or personal bills for existing hospitals. I ask because sometimes you post your bills and people who have used the place can help you if you're being overcharged (personal experience from Gwinnett).

I truly get what you are saying about Agents, and I know how much I've benefited from research... but I also know how much the family here helped me and each other in the past, we didn't hoard quite as much and there was a big spirit of camaraderie even with all the mud slinging ; I.e I have read every single page from part one, but as the years passed and phones etc changed a lot of my saved info was lost, when I decided on Chicago this time it was still a kind soul here that helped me shorten the entire process and has saved me a ton.

Please as our moderator, kindly be a little bit more gentle, so we do not alienate people with genuine intentions and good hearts... i know you mean well but in recent times something (the spirit) we had before is seriously missing from the group. As for Agents and people who use them, they usually get their own reward, especially when all they do is copy and paste....

It's people that made this group what it is and it's people that will sustain it. Kindly clarify the rules again regarding posting for those of us who somehow missed the memo and Ejoo, Biko, Dan Allah don't assume the worst when we mistakenly default sometimes... Tender justice with mercy, after all you are JustWise

I hope I have been able to convince and not confuse you with these few words of mine Have a lovely day.

Thanks for your reply daks01!
So does that mean you can actually get a Virgin Ticket with those long stopovers without necessarily having a UK visa (since you saw passengers who flew without UK visas) ? The info was communicated to me when I intended buying a ticket as a must!
Some of us dads may not mind those long stopovers for those commensurately ridiculously cheap deals when going to join DW o...

daks01:

Pls did you need a transit visa, flying Virgin Atlantic...and If you didn't, how long was your stopover pls?

Thanks superdad, as for virgin God is watching them! I didn't need a transit visa cos I have a valid uk visa although I didn't need it cos my layover was about three hours. But there were lots of people on my flight that had long layovers like 20hrs that were told in Naija when they were checking in that they'll be given transit visas and put in hotels when they get to Heathrow. Only for people to get there and those ones told them nope! The only thing they did was the ones that had valid uk visas were told to go out of the airport and sort themselves out, the ones that didn't were told to go stay at one lounge like that. I don't know how the lounge was tho but I don't think it could've been that comfortable for that long period, I really felt bad for them. There was even pregnant woman going to LA the following day, they told her the same thing. So that's my gist about virgin, don't fall for their bobo in Naija!

Mamatukwas:
Dear @Justwise ... I need clarification on a few things, please be patient with me. I'm an old timer but was away for a while so it seems some things have changed and I don't want to run foul.

We used to be allowed to find deals or use hospitals, come here and post entire cost breakdown per location. That was what made it fun and that is what has formed the backbone of what most newbies go to research now. Is that still allowed? Or we can no longer post cost implications of new finds or personal bills for existing hospitals. I ask because sometimes you post your bills and people who have used the place can help you if you're being overcharged (personal experience from Gwinnett).

I truly get what you are saying about Agents, and I know how much I've benefited from research... but I also know how much the family here helped me and each other in the past, we didn't hoard quite as much and there was a big spirit of camaraderie even with all the mud slinging ; I.e I have read every single page from part one, but as the years passed and phones etc changed a lot of my saved info was lost, when I decided on Chicago this time it was still a kind soul here that helped me shorten the entire process and has saved me a ton.

Please as our moderator, kindly be a little bit more gentle, so we do not alienate people with genuine intentions and good hearts... i know you mean well but in recent times something (the spirit) we had before is seriously missing from the group. As for Agents and people who use them, they usually get their own reward, especially when all they do is copy and paste....

It's people that made this group what it is and it's people that will sustain it. Kindly clarify the rules again regarding posting for those of us who somehow missed the memo and Ejoo, Biko, Dan Allah don't assume the worst when we mistakenly default sometimes... Tender justice with mercy, after all you are JustWise

I hope I have been able to convince and not confuse you with these few words of mine Have a lovely day.

Yes thosedays you are referring to nairaland hasn't started pay ad system, people are allowed to post links and breakdown without no problem, but since company started paying to place an ad here its only fair that they get value for their money.

Will you be happy to be paying to place an ad here while others are allowed to promote their product freely direct or indirectly?

I'm trying to strike a balance here but unfortunately many don't get it.

Well justwise since urs is because of those paying ads here, what then is the importance of this thread if useful info of a budget friendly location and where to go can't be found here for those who aren't agent. We also spend our mb coming here to read and that is money generated to the owners of the platform.

In all honesty I feel pple should be able to share their experiences and drop the price. They can exclude the name of the hospital and Dr. But dropping the state Wont be bad. If one needs to get the name u can then pm the individual privately that way it won't be publicly announced.

Else the thread will be for visa and Poe transcript, not cost and procedures to birth on the USA as the name implies.
Thanks.

justwise:


Yes thosedays you are referring to nairaland hasn't started pay ad system, people are allowed to post links and breakdown without no problem, but since company started paying to place an ad here its only fair that they get value for their money.

Will you be happy to be paying to place an ad here while others are allowed to promote their product freely direct or indirectly?

I'm trying to strike a balance here but unfortunately many don't get it.

Good day all, please who has used an emergency medical reason to get a date for an interview what was the process and how did the interview go at the embassy. Please i need a response thanks

[quote author=justwise post=61941365]

Yes thosedays you are referring to nairaland hasn't started pay ad system, people are allowed to post links and breakdown without no problem, but since company started paying to place an ad here its only fair that they get value for their money.

Ok Noted. So what are our current limits? What can we post or otherwise? Many Thanks.

shirley013:
Well justwise since urs is because of those paying ads here, what then is the importance of this thread if useful info of a budget friendly location and where to go can't be found here for those who aren't agent. We also spend our mb coming here to read and that is money generated to the owners of the platform.

In all honesty I feel pple should be able to share their experiences and drop the price. They can exclude the name of the hospital and Dr. But dropping the state Wont be bad. If one needs to get the name u can then pm the individual privately that way it won't be publicly announced.

Else the thread will be for visa and Poe transcript, not cost and procedures to birth on the USA as the name implies.
Thanks.

Someone might mistake your response for someone who likes to be spoon-fed. When my DW and I had our sojourn last year, we had a lot of research done and made a lot of calls and in the end the correspondence gave us confidence that helped us to get through the episode in peace. At the POE no question that would be asked that we were not confident about answering. Even other things like account opening, renting a car getting about and other things, we were 'veteraned' enough to be able to get research on anything and have it without any stress.

Secondly, with the paid adverts on the page, Just wise has been empowered to clamp down on free adverts. The thread exists because of NL and they have the right to monitor and control as they deem fit. Just my 2 cents though.

hi justwise

Well done with the moderation. I see your point about those paying for ads getting benefit thereof but how many hospitals do this and in how many states. I don’t think restricting free flow of discourse for the benefit of those who have paid ad is fair. That’s my opinion which if I’m being honest, I’m scared to say because of the firm and sometimes harsh responses I have noticed dissenting voices receive here. I don’t have to be agreed with but if no hospital in Tampa has paid for ad I see no reason why someone can’t freely share.

But like you may say, if I feel so strongly, I might as well start my own social media platform and share info freely.

I have no personal problems though as I am sorted but when I needed info in 2014, it was that same free flow of info that helped me and till date, the hospital I used is not advertising with you neither is there any hospital advertising from that state I used.

Anyways just thought to share my views. I understand it may be a management decision and not subject to change but thought to share my thoughts nonetheless.

SuperDad:
Thanks for your reply daks01!
So does that mean you can actually get a Virgin Ticket with those long stopovers without necessarily having a UK visa (since you saw passengers who flew without UK visas) ? The info was communicated to me when I intended buying a ticket as a must!
Some of us dads may not mind those long stopovers for those commensurately ridiculously cheap deals when going to join DW o...

No, you don't need to buy have uk visa to buy the ticket with long stopovers.

@ Oga Justwise... just thought to add (and I'm only saying this coz I know you can discuss this with mgt) I really believe the reason why people even bother to advertise here is because people came together and made this platform fun and vibrant in the early days hence the large followership.... It then became an attractive proposition for advertisers.

Can we pretty please find a balance where we the 'people' who just love this platform don't feel cheated? Case in point I run a page on insta with over 4K humble followers... most of them came and stayed for the info I offered and still offer for free... but I've now started getting people looking to pay for a feature (Whoop ) .... imagine if I then choose to limit posts to ONLY paid features, il loose the spirit and vibrancy of my page and it will cease to be authentic. The free info I give out helps more than harms me (if you understand what I mean)

I'm in no way telling you how to run the page, it's just that plenty of us truly love this platform and plenty as @suzyt pointed out are scared to talk..

Thanks again for listening and responding and in the meantime pls let's know what our limits are pending any change.

shirley013:
Well justwise since urs is because of those paying ads here, what then is the importance of this thread if useful info of a budget friendly location and where to go can't be found here for those who aren't agent. W[b]e also spend our mb coming here to read and that is money generated to the owners of the platform.[/b]

In all honesty I feel pple should be able to share their experiences and drop the price. They can exclude the name of the hospital and Dr. But dropping the state Wont be bad. If one needs to get the name u can then pm the individual privately that way it won't be publicly announced.

Else the thread will be for visa and Poe transcript, not cost and procedures to birth on the USA as the name implies.
Thanks.

You will also spend the same mb researching on google or other websites.

Your visiting this forum generate traffic while in return you get free info, so its 50/50 thing.

I don't hide any post that simply mention hospital used but when the individual start giving a feedback on services received and making recommendation then the post will be gone.

I'm sorry if you don't like it but you can save your mb and pay an agent to get the info for you

Well I don't need to be spoon-fed to get info. I actually used a hospital and the research was done by mysef and the feed back I gave to the house and those who pmed me so you can clear that from ur mind.

I guess ur research was guided by info dropped by those who gave feedback back in the years.

My point is, reading current trends of info you can't even figure a budget friendly state to even direct ur research too. So how does this thread give info of cost and procedures to birth in the USA. Maybe the name should be modified.

Well I rest my case. Nah una sabi.

Dwebb55:


Someone might mistake your response for someone who likes to be spoon-fed. When my DW and I had our sojourn last year, we had a lot of research done and made a lot of calls and in the end the correspondence gave us confidence
that helped us to get through the episode in peace. At the POE no question that would be asked that we were not confident about answering. Even other things like account opening, renting a car getting about and other things, we were 'veteraned' enough to be able to get research on anything and have it without any stress.

Secondly, with the paid adverts on the page, Just wise has been empowered to clamp down on free adverts. The thread exists because of NL and they have the right to monitor and control as they deem fit. Just my 2 cents though.

please i need your help. my ds 160 form says my husband will be travelling alone with me... but he just found out that he will be very buzy during my travel period. what kind of mail do i send to the us embassy informing them of the change.. before my interview date will is close. thank you.

please i need your help. my ds 160 forms states that my husband will be travelling with me. but we just found out that he will be very buzy during my travel period and not be able to come with me. please what kind of mail should i send to the us embassy informing them of the change. so that it wont be a problem during my interview which is in few days.. thank you

Mamatukwas:
@ Oga Justwise... just thought to add (and I'm only saying this coz I know you can discuss this with mgt) I really believe the reason why people even bother to advertise here is because people came together and made this platform fun and vibrant in the early days hence the large followership.... It then became an attractive proposition for advertisers.

Can we pretty please find a balance where we the 'people' who just love this platform don't feel cheated? Case in point I run a page on insta with over 4K humble followers... most of them came and stayed for the info I offered and still offer for free... but I've now started getting people looking to pay for a feature (Whoop ) .... imagine if I then choose to limit posts to ONLY paid features, il loose the spirit and vibrancy of my page and it will cease to be authentic. The free info I give out helps more than harms me (if you understand what I mean)

I'm in no way telling you how to run the page, it's just that plenty of us truly love this platform and plenty as @suzyt pointed out are scared to talk..

Thanks again for listening and responding and in the meantime pls let's know what our limits are pending any change.

Many of you here keep looking at this issue from me me and we we point of view but forgetting that it cost a lot to main a website like nairaland.

People are still allowed to mention hospital they used and its up to an individual to contact that hospital for more inquiries, this thread is not only about hospitals and bills we share more important info here from individuals experiences to VO who comes in here from time to time to clear things up.

All i'm saying is that don't advertise hospital deals here because it will stop those adverting the same product from paying for ad here.

I have tried to strike a balance, i don't delete post because they mentioned a hospital name even when such post is reported, post i delete are those advertising deals directly or indirectly and making recommendations.

I ask you again..how will you feel paying for something while others are getting it for free?

justwise:


Many of you here keep looking at this issue from me me and we we point of view but forgetting that it cost a lot to main a website like nairaland.

People are still allowed to mention hospital they used and its up to an individual to contact that hospital for more inquiries, this thread is not only about hospitals and bills we share more important info here from individuals experiences to VO who comes in here from time to time to clear things up.

All i'm saying is that don't advertise hospital deals here because it will stop those adverting the same product from paying for ad here.

I have tried to strike a balance, i don't delete post because they mentioned a hospital name even when such post is reported, post i delete are those advertising deals directly or indirectly and making recommendations.

I ask you again..how will you feel paying for something while others are getting it for free?

Okay. I think I understand you. We can still mention hospitals we used and price breakdown. But direct or indirect advert is prohibited. If that's the case, then this has always been the case now. Nothing new.

aye88:



Okay. I think I understand you. We can still mention hospitals we used and price breakdown. But direct or indirect advert is prohibited. If that's the case, then this has always been the case now. Nothing new.

Yup seems to be the conclusion. Don't advertise and don't recommend. Just bare facts. Gottya @Justwise. Thanks.

Petdaughter:
Pls are there any LA or California moms for Feb/March let me know. Thank you

I'm also a LA or California mum.
EDD is Feb/March

chigrad:
Pls does anyone have an answer to my question? Help a sister pls.

Hi Chigrad, please do you have any recent information on affordable accomodation in san Francisco

Goodmorning house

Please I am in dire need of a not so expensive hospital in Boston or Rhode Island,the reason is I have accomodation in Boston.

I would really appreciate if I can the doctor's email,phone number etc


Thank you

cobany09:
Goodmorning house

Please I am in dire need of a not so expensive hospital in Boston or Rhode Island,the reason is I have accomodation in Boston.

I would really appreciate if I can the doctor's email,phone number etc


Thank you

If you are in dire need as you stated, it will be a dire act to use the search botton here or check on google. You can also do both and compare, make calls and do the work by yourself cos i dont think anyone is in dire need to give you such detail. My 2 cents.

Hello House, so happy to be back here and wow Part 5 already... the ministry is truly moving forward...

On this issue of sharing info and researching... in 2014 when I was to have my baby I did get a lot of info here but then I went ahead to do my own research and found a reasonably priced hospital in New York... I shared the info on this platform and also responded to lots of PMs...

Fast forward to barely 2 years later, the number of Nigerians that flooded that hospital became so much that they had to review their package to almost double the price... now even I that shared the info can no longer make use of the hospital if need arises.... so truly I believe that agents use this information shared here a lot...

Anyways, as with every forum and community, there will always be rules, so yes I agree with Justwise on the disadvantage of sharing freely when others actually paid to have their services advertised...

I am glad I was able to share in previous parts all my experiences (hospital, PoE Transcript, getting baby’s details, flights etc)... On flights I remember I almost bought my infants ticket for hundreds of dollars from Delta at JFK but someone advised on the thread that it was cheaper in Naija and we did get it for about 30k or so. My affirmation also helped others back then...

Anyways, it’s good to be back here... seems there a lot to catch up on... I wonder why VOs are really refusing a lot of people these days sha... and ehn ehn our people have abused the letter of intent to the point that it holds no water anymore... kaiii God help us o...

Lemme Go and read up... and truly it does pay to do some research yourself instead of waiting to be spoon fed... it gives an edge of confidence.

One love guys

ewa2014:
Hello House, so happy to be back here and wow Part 5 already... the ministry is truly moving forward...

On this issue of sharing info and researching... in 2014 when I was to have my baby I did get a lot of info here but then I went ahead to do my own research and found a reasonably priced hospital in New York... I shared the info on this platform and also responded to lots of PMs...

Fast forward to barely 2 years later, the number of Nigerians that flooded that hospital became so much that they had to review their package to almost double the price... now even I that shared the info can no longer make use of the hospital if need arises.... so truly I believe that agents use this information shared here a lot...

Anyways, as with every forum and community, there will always be rules, so yes I agree with Justwise on the disadvantage of sharing freely when others actually paid to have their services advertised...

I am glad I was able to share in previous parts all my experiences (hospital, PoE Transcript, getting baby’s details, flights etc)... On flights I remember I almost bought my infants ticket for hundreds of dollars from Delta at JFK but someone advised on the thread that it was cheaper in Naija and we did get it for about 30k or so. My affirmation also helped others back then...

Anyways, it’s good to be back here... seems there a lot to catch up on... I wonder why VOs are really refusing a lot of people these days sha... and ehn ehn our people have abused the letter of intent to the point that it holds no water anymore... kaiii God help us o...

Lemme Go and read up... and truly it does pay to do some research yourself instead of waiting to be spoon fed... it gives an edge of confidence.

One love guys

welcome back

Good morning my fellow naija Family.....

Nairaland was a great tool for my VISA interview that took place yesterday morning. As i was able to get the VISA for me and my Husband with no issues. My advise to all expectants is that you should prepare. you need your Husband to work closely with, listen to ur interview rresponses prior to the interview so u dnt shoot urself in the leg. As for the husbands, please avoid TIE. DO NOT OVER DRESS as those guys are smarter than you think. IF YOU LIKE WEAR UNIFORM,WHAT MATTERS IS YOUR SHARPNESS AND CONFIDENT..... See my trascrip below;

VO: Good morning
Us: Good morning ma
VO: Why are you going to the US
DW: To have our baby
VO: Why US?
Us: Due to its top notch medical infrastructure
VO: Where do you work?
DW: I work for blah blah blah, d direct sub to xxxxxxxxxxx
DH: I work for blah blah blah
VO: How long?
DH: 5 year
VO: Why do you choose to apply here instead of from xxxxx
DH: we need to present my DW at her office in xxxxx in order to get her letter of intro
VO: Do you have anyone in US
DH: Yes, Mr xxxxxxx
VO: How long do you both intend to stay
DW: 3 months
DH: 3 weeks - (This is to enable them believe that you have ties to ur job in Nigeria)
VO: Do you intend staying with him
DH: Not at all, but he promised to visit us at our lodge --- This is a psych question to test if you will be a dependent to anyone
VO: how much do you earn
DW: Above 300k
DH: Above 700k - He has to call his next year salary by FAITH
VO: What is your budget
DH: estimate of 12k dollars
VO: I will issue you ur VISA today but please ensure you keep your expense receipts of payment for future applications as i have noted in your profile that it will be requested for on your next application. If you dnt incure expense of over 10,000 USD u will be denied in your future application. Do not accept discounts or medicaid. Ensure you verify all discounts given to you by ur hospitals.
DH/DW: Thank you.
VO: Here is your whitepaper on how to collect your visa

[quote author=GraceThomas4487 post=61967566]Good morning my fellow

Lol Congrats @GraceThomas4487... I like how you guys claimed future salary by Faith ��

Did they actually say that if you DON'T incur expenses of 10k and above they won't renew?? � Wow that's new!

Hello All,

Just to give back to the forum.

I did Dropbox Sept 16th 2017, i was sent a mail to come for interview.

Interview went well.

The number 9 guy in Abuja was bouncing people and i kept praying not to be sent to him, unfortunately my turn fell on his frontpost.

ME:Good Morning
NUMBER 9:Good Morning

Straight to Business of the day

NUMBER 9: How many times have you been to USA
ME:6 Times

NUMBER 9: Can you tell me the duration of stay in the 6 times
ME:story time.......The 5th was honeymoon in Newyork 10days, and the last 8weeks for childbirth

NUMBER 9: What do you do
ME: I am .......

NUMBER 9: How much is your salary after tax
ME:6digits

NUMBER 9:What does your husband do and how much is his salary
ME:Does blablabla,salary blahblah

NUMBER 9: what hospital did you give birth, have you paid your bills.
ME: Methodist Sugarland, Yes i have paid

NUMBER 9: how much , can i have your receipt
ME: 9000 Dollars, handed all my arranged receipts took his time to go through it.

Number 9: This visa is it to give birth
ME: Its a treat from my husband for taking care of our baby without any help plus my job.

NUMBER 9: Beautiful
NUMBER 9: Congratulations.

That is how the interview went.
Good luck to all those called for interview


I have collected my passport with visa .

GraceThomas4487:

VO: If you dnt incure expense of over 10,000 USD u will be denied in your future application. Do not accept discounts or medicaid. Ensure you verify all discounts given to you by ur hospitals.

This is a new one. Could you shed more light on this please?