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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by jhorjhor: 6:04pm On Nov 13, 2017
I dont know why some old men would just sit and argue all day about two players who they are meant to relax and enjoy.

They are both f*cking gifted...so chillout and enjoy watching them play.


Even debruyne has this to say about being compared with messi and cr7;

Asked about Martinez's remarks, he told Sky Sports News: "I don't care. I really don't care. People compare too many players with each other, you have too many good players in the world.
"In the end, I will only win individual awards if I win something with City.
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Greatihex(m): 6:05pm On Nov 13, 2017
Nihilist:


Nope. There are 2 reasons RLC got called up:

1. Southgate managed him at U21 level and has a lot of faith in his abilities from his performances at that level. Not a bad thing, but not current performance based either

2. The spate of withdrawals from the England squad for this round of friendlies - Henderson out, Winks out, Alli out, Delph out, Drinkwater out, lallana out.

just look at the England midfield in the latest squad - Jake Livermore, Jack Cork and Lewis Cook are in it. If Lewis Cook with only 8 EPL appearances over the last 2 seasons got called up, it just shows how desperate they are for bodies going into the Brazil game.

I certainly don't think RLC has done anything this season to warrant an England call up, but desperation is a factor. Then again, this is England we're talking about sef...
yesterday you were the one telling us that luck did not play a part in rashford getting a chance at united. Now, look at what you are saying about a Chelsea academy product. Do you have anything against those boys?

Try not to have a reputation like one of our brothers here o.
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Nihilist: 6:09pm On Nov 13, 2017
airmark:


cheesy cheesy cheesy cheesy cheesy

Tallness is now a talent and Kevin debruyne is now a target man
. .

I swear laugh wan kill me.

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by jhorjhor: 6:09pm On Nov 13, 2017
In other news,bakayoko has gone rambo in his interview with canal+


Chelsea midfielder Tiémoué Bakayoko on his non-selection for the French national team: "I don't think that Rabiot, Tolisso, Kanté or Matuidi are any better than me." (C+)


Itz like he also said he's going to play like a beast after the break
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Eruditor: 6:11pm On Nov 13, 2017
Linkfield:


Ronaldo is better than Messi.
Have a nice time.

So if I am listing players' talents and I say one is a better header of the ball I concluded that the better header was the more talented player?
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Nobody: 6:12pm On Nov 13, 2017
jhorjhor:
In other news,bakayoko has gone rambo in his interview with canal+


Chelsea midfielder Tiémoué Bakayoko on his non-selection for the French national team: "I don't think that Rabiot, Tolisso, Kanté or Matuidi are any better than me." (C+)


Itz like he also said he's going to play like a beast after the break


Make he sha no collect red card

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Nobody: 6:14pm On Nov 13, 2017
Eruditor:


So if I am listing players' talents and I say one is a better header of the ball I concluded that the better header was the more talented player?


Did u not conclude De Bruyne is more talented than Hazard? cheesy

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Eruditor: 6:15pm On Nov 13, 2017
airmark:


cheesy cheesy cheesy cheesy cheesy

Tallness is now a talent and Kevin debruyne is now a target man. Lana1, come and carry your brother.


The word was "taller". The "er" shows you are comparing 2 players.

The target man part was unrelated but feel free to conflate things. You are not known for that at all.

Hazard was not appointed because he was the most senior in the team as you wrongly posited. Get your facts right next time.
 

Most cannot be used between 2 players.

Keep trying hard. You are impressing like-minded people.

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Eruditor: 6:16pm On Nov 13, 2017
Linkfield:



Did u not conclude De Bruyne is more talented than Hazard? cheesy

I listed many talents and concluded who had more of it.

The English I am speaking is facile.
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Nihilist: 6:20pm On Nov 13, 2017
Greatihex:
yesterday you were the one telling us that luck did not play a part in rashford getting a chance at united. Now, look at what you are saying about a Chelsea academy product. Do you have anything against those boys?

Try not to have a reputation like one of our brothers here o.

My opinion on Rashford vs My opinion on this RLC are as different as chalk and cheese, indomie and spaghetti, tombo and champagne, speedboat and canoe, torchlight and halogen lamp.

There were at least 10 if not more strikers at the time of Rashford's debut. LVG did not have to play him. The competition at a club like Manyoo is so great that LVG could have conceivably turned to any other striker In the ranks.

The fact that he chose a 17 year old who would go on to do time very interesting things on the pitch was not lucky...they knew what Rashford could do, which is why he was in the squad.

You can't compare that situation to the England situation where the talent pool is so meagre that the manager is forced to call up Lewis Cook, Jack Cork and Jake Livermore.

Choice is the difference. One manager had choice. The other doesn't.
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by eph12(m): 6:23pm On Nov 13, 2017
Lana1:
No lie....U dey part of the 5 people abi??
Bros liked and shared sef na why him confuse cheesy cheesy cheesy
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by raumdeuter: 6:33pm On Nov 13, 2017
airmark:


Is there any trophy for ucl semifinalists that i dont know? He asked you what kdb won for city and let's juxtapose with hazard's.

Should i type it in yoruba?

AT the big stage what has Hidden Hazard ever done that is noteworthy A CL flop, A world cup flop. KdB in his first season took a City to their first ever CL semi,

Hidden Hazard in his first season took Chelsea defending champion to the first group stage exit for a defending champion

Spot the difference
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Nihilist: 6:35pm On Nov 13, 2017
Shaw for 20m....

That's a close-eye-throway sum...
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by airmark(m): 6:44pm On Nov 13, 2017
Nihilist:


I swear laugh wan kill me.

He is a barca fan.

Eruditor:


The word was "taller". The "er" shows your are comparing 2 players.

The target man part was unrelated but feel free to conflate things. You are not known for that at all.

 

Most cannot be used between 2 players.

Keep trying hard. You are impressing like-minded people.

When is dembele returning?

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Greatihex(m): 6:51pm On Nov 13, 2017
Nihilist:


My opinion on Rashford vs My opinion on this RLC are as different as chalk and cheese, indomie and spaghetti, tombo and champagne, speedboat and canoe, torchlight and halogen lamp.

There were at least 10 if not more strikers at the time of Rashford's debut. LVG did not have to play him. The competition at a club like Manyoo is so great that LVG could have conceivably turned to any other striker In the ranks.

The fact that he chose a 17 year old who would go on to do time very interesting things on the pitch was not lucky...they knew what Rashford could do, which is why he was in the squad.

You can't compare that situation to the England situation where the talent pool is so meagre that the manager is forced to call up Lewis Cook, Jack Cork and Jake Livermore.

Choice is the difference. One manager had choice. The other doesn't.

i am not arguing with you o. But, I will like to know the 10 or more strikers that where ahead of rashford which were available during the time he got his debut?
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by nateevs(m): 6:52pm On Nov 13, 2017
Nihilist:


Nope. There are 2 reasons RLC got called up:

1. Southgate managed him at U21 level and has a lot of faith in his abilities from his performances at that level. Not a bad thing, but not current performance based either

2. The spate of withdrawals from the England squad for this round of friendlies - Henderson out, Winks out, Alli out, Delph out, Drinkwater out, lallana out.

just look at the England midfield in the latest squad - Jake Livermore, Jack Cork and Lewis Cook are in it. If Lewis Cook with only 8 EPL appearances over the last 2 seasons got called up, it just shows how desperate they are for bodies going into the Brazil game.

I certainly don't think RLC has done anything this season to warrant an England call up, but desperation is a factor. Then again, this is England we're talking about sef...


I believe I remember you saying something similar about Harry Kane. Look at him now?

1. Southgate managed 10s of kids at U21. He has not extended invitation to all of them, despite believing in many of them.
2. Rashford? Kane?
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by airmark(m): 6:54pm On Nov 13, 2017
raumdeuter:


AT the big stage what has Hidden Hazard ever done that is noteworthy A CL flop, A world cup flop. KdB in his first season took a City to their first ever CL semi,

Hidden Hazard in his first season took Chelsea defending champion to the first group stage exit for a defending champion

Spot the difference

cheesy cheesy

One would think hazard is like 5 years older than debruyne, not knowing they were born in the same year. Hazard's achievements made it look that way, what a pity.

Hazard : Chelsea Premier League top assist provider: 2012–13 , Debruyne : Burnthisleaguedown loanee
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Nihilist: 6:58pm On Nov 13, 2017
nateevs:



I believe I remember you saying something similar about Harry Kane. Look at him now?

1. Southgate managed 10s of kids at U21. He has not extended invitation to all of them, despite believing in many of them.
2. Rashford? Kane?

I'm seeing Jake Livermore, Jack Cork and Lewis Cook in that squad...the latter two are debutants as well.

How many of those U21 boys are playing in EPL?

We all saw how Southgate quickly moved to call up Chalobah following his move to Watford. What had Chalobah done in his life to justify a call up?

Southgate is short of options. He's also calling up the u21 boys he thinks could do well based on his experience with them. Otherwise what the hell is Lewis Cook doing at Wembley?

I don't have any problems with Gareth choosing players based on his own criteria. Where I disagree is any attempt to say that the likes of RLC objectively deserved to be called up based on club performance.
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Nihilist: 6:59pm On Nov 13, 2017
Greatihex:
i am not arguing with you o. But, I will like to know the 10 or more strikers that where ahead of rashford which were available during the time he got his debut?

Google is your friend Bro. Rashford was not the only academy striker for Manyoo.
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by nateevs(m): 7:02pm On Nov 13, 2017
airmark:

Jesus!!! I can't wait for this stupid international break to be over.


Before it's over, can I quickly compare Peter Crouch with Messi? grin grin

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by raumdeuter: 7:03pm On Nov 13, 2017
airmark:


cheesy cheesy

One would think hazard is like 5 years older than debruyne, not knowing they were born the same year. Hazard's achievements made it look that way, what a pity.

Hazard : Premier League top assist provider: 2012–13 , Debruyne : Burnthisleaguedown loanee

Since they both play in the same league now. Tell us their output

BTW can you provide evidence that Hazard was EPL top assist provider of 2012-13 and back it up with $100

Nihilist

WHat is not a lie is that the season both played in the league 2016/17 Kevin De Bruyne was EPL top assist provider with almost 20 assists while Hazard didnt make top 10 in assists an was dragging with Snodgrass and Puncheon
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Nihilist: 7:06pm On Nov 13, 2017
nateevs:



Before it's over, can I quickly compare Peter Crouch with Messi? grin grin

Well crouch is more talented than Messi based on his height.

He is also more durable than Messi given that he's almost 40 and still playing in the EPL


Crouch is also more adaptable as he has done it on cold wet Wednesday nights at the Brittania, unlike Messi.

As it happens, Crouch is also a target man unlike Messi.

Crouch for Balon Dor 2018

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Nihilist: 7:07pm On Nov 13, 2017
raumdeuter:


Since they both play in the same league now. Tell us their output

BTW can you provide evidence that Hazard was EPL top assist provider of 2012-13 and back it up with $100

Nihilist

WHat is not a lie is that the season both played in the league 2016/17 Kevin De Bruyne was EPL top assist provider with almost 20 assists while Hazard didnt make top 10 in assists an was dragging with Snodgrass and Puncheon

10% of total stake value in Boardman fees.

You know the drill.
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by raumdeuter: 7:11pm On Nov 13, 2017
Nihilist:
10% of total stake value in Boardman fees.

You know the drill.

Lets see if airmark will not disappear like the famous fart of the leprous witch.
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by atheist5(m): 7:15pm On Nov 13, 2017
sod09:
you just like saying trash
kdb and mertens are more productive than your so called hidden in Belgium.
you think to be dancing one corner around the field is talent. maybe you can compare hidden and bastuayi then we have a talk
hazard has been their best player since the euros though
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by nateevs(m): 7:18pm On Nov 13, 2017
Nihilist:


I'm seeing Jake Livermore, Jack Cork and Lewis Cook in that squad...the latter two are debutants as well.

How many of those U21 boys are playing in EPL?

We all saw how Southgate quickly moved to call up Chalobah following his move to Watford. What had Chalobah done in his life to justify a call up?

Southgate is short of options. He's also calling up the u21 boys he thinks could do well based on his experience with them. Otherwise what the hell is Lewis Cook doing at Wembley?

I don't have any problems with Gareth choosing players based on his own criteria. Where I disagree is any attempt to say that the likes of RLC objectively deserved to be called up based on club performance.


I don't understand. If RLC went to Palace and went straight to the bench, how does he make this moment? Unless you are saying GS would have called him regardless; which will just be funny.

21-year old players get called up for different reasons. Some based on exceptional qualifications, others based of shortage in options. Regardless, they previously put themselves in a position to receive a call in the first place.

RLC went to Palace and became a fixture. He's not Hazard flashy so he is probably not catching the eye immediately. But Palace fans are nearly calling him their best player so far because he is doing the simple things well How's that not deserving?

If you were busting your back side at work to reach a long-term goal/position and it comes early to you because of a dearth of available qualified personnel, would you call yourself undeserving?

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Eruditor: 7:21pm On Nov 13, 2017
airmark:


He is a barca fan....

...that said KDB defends better than Hazard. Then some Shesea fans interpreted it to mean KDB is a defender.

grin

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Eruditor: 7:23pm On Nov 13, 2017
nateevs:



Before it's over, can I quickly compare Peter Crouch with Messi? grin grin

Imagine listing out 15 things Messi is more skilled at, then 3 things that Crouch is better than him at.

Then concluding that Crouch is "more" talented because I am a Stoke fan.
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by raumdeuter: 7:27pm On Nov 13, 2017
airmark stop hiding and come out here with your $100 to prove that

Hazard : Premier League top assist provider: 2012–13
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by atheist5(m): 7:30pm On Nov 13, 2017
raumdeuter:


AT the big stage what has Hidden Hazard ever done that is noteworthy A CL flop, A world cup flop. KdB in his first season took a City to their first ever CL semi,

Hidden Hazard in his first season took Chelsea defending champion to the first group stage exit for a defending champion

Spot the difference
you are a very big f00l for what you just wrote,i thought i could ignore your rants today but i underestimated your foolishness,look at this idiot so hazard at 22 should be leading chelsea in his first ever season,you be mumu hater,just go collect your school fees,dont let hatred for hazard give you mental disease because the bumman dont give f7cks about your existence

Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by nateevs(m): 7:33pm On Nov 13, 2017
Eruditor:


...that said KDB defends better than Hazard. Then some Shesea fans interpreted it to mean KDB is a defender.

grin

Shesea fans are not saying much. They are mainly laughing tbh.

I think you could have made a better point by saying KDB has mastered better, the application of his talent than Hazard. I am not saying you still wouldn't have met resistance but you still would have given your point a chance.

You torpedoed the whole thing when you started saying KDB is more talented than Hazard; further killing the point by expressing that his (KDB's) height advantage must be seen as pure talent.


Drogba could possibly defend better than Messi. And?

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Nobody: 7:34pm On Nov 13, 2017
raumdeuter:
airmark stop hiding and come out here with your $100 to prove that

Hazard : Premier League top assist provider: 2012–13

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