Only God fit save my ribs this night. LMAO.

Funlord say na "Amalanomics". I never yet recover from that injury-causing laughter, em come remind me of Elampawa blaming Rooney's well-known loss in form to "curved spine". Lawd have murcy. My belle!!

Fashi talk, no matter how stubborn you think you are when it comes to arguments, no matter how long you think you can last in arguments, if you like sabi argue like Dayokanu, AS LONG AS ROONEY IS BEING CASTIGATED OR BLAMED, you can never win Elampawa. Them never born you well. Elampiro can blame Antispambot to exonerate Rooney.

RuffRuggedRaw:



Pogba is the next worst thing to happen to United since that scam of a Ghana-ian, Welbeck; and it is gonna take way more than superb performances against Newcastles, Rubin Kazans and Lokomotivs to convince me!

Mind-numbing level of short-sightedness contained herein! Lmfao, "next worst thing since Welbeck"

raumdeuter:


If you tell some people A is for Apple and tomorrow say A is for Air. They will start shouting amala turning because they cant understand why A is no longer for Apple

This part tho

Lwtmb! !!

raumdeuter:


Actually its the inability of people to read, reason contextually and apply understanding that is missing here. I can say I am rarely wrong because most of my opinions are always well thought out and backed up by necesary facts

I think elampiro is the same that is why most of you dont understand him, Maybe thats why he doesnt post as much nowadays because there are rarely intellectual football arguments based on facts anymore

When was the last time we saw an in-depth analysis like coogar vs elamps give us regularly here. To be honest there were lots of facts shared and you can learn a lot from it. Then the people who cant cope will complain that their arguments are too long, same way they complained about kagawa10. What do we have now? poorly researched opinions

Logic is malleable, its resilient and needs to be subjected to several tests. When you cannot cope with the twist and turns of logic then you naively term it amala turning.

If you tell some people A is for Apple and tomorrow say A is for Air. They will start shouting amala turning because they cant understand why A is no longer for Apple

A for Amala.

funlord:
So you also believe some of the hogwash your man has spit like rooneys poor performances were down to him having a curved spine? Is that the kind of analogy you want someone like me to use as a basis for any sort of soccer discourse? And why is it that when you are cornered rather than answer a direct question you either keep quiet or ask a question that does not co relate with the point you can't prove? Is that what you term as being "cunny"?

Coogar was always on his case because of the ridiculousness of most of his posts....but well coogar had enough time to engage him due to his line of work with arif....I don't have that sort of time to waste....i don't get credit alerts for posting epistles, skewed logic or engaging in twisting history...I prefer to hustle hard rather than engaging in the types of arguments that I left behind in SS1.....let's call a spade a spade and not a fork abeg...


Who makes statements like " I am the king of facts or I am never wrong" on a public forum if not people who are trying too hard to seem smart? It's immature blad! Especially when you consistently end up with egg on your face!

Why is it not possible that Rooneys performance dwindled as a result of a health problem or a spine problem? Did you ask him to provide evidence of it and he failed or you researched it and you didnt find it that way?

If I tell you a professional player asked to be subbed out, had circulatory problems and couldnt perform because of the noise in the stadium someone like you will say its a lie and not possible, but that was what happened to Timo Werner few weeks ago

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/football/2017/09/27/leipzigs-timo-werner-forced-pitch-due-noisy-besiktas-fans/


If they told you a professional footballers career can be hampered by a digestive and metabolic problem you would say its a lie. but that was what happened to Mario Gotze
http://www.independent.co.uk/sport/football/european/mario-gotze-borussia-dortmund-metabolic-disorder-withdrawn-indefinitely-a7602576.html

What is so ridiculous about Rooney a professional footballer having a back or spine injury that will affect his output cos I checked the link below and saw that Rooney actually had problems with his back around that time.

http://www.physioroom.com/news/english_premier_league/players/1499/wayne_rooney_injury.html

So elamps was actually right but the ignorant mob were probably wrong

raumdeuter:


Why is it not possible that Rooneys performance dwindled as a result of a health problem or a spine problem? Did you ask him to provide evidence of it and he failed or you researched it and you didnt find it that way?

If I tell you a professional player asked to be subbed out, had circulatory problems and couldnt perform because of the noise in the stadium someone like you will say its a lie and not possible, but that was what happened to Timo Werner few weeks ago

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/football/2017/09/27/leipzigs-timo-werner-forced-pitch-due-noisy-besiktas-fans/


If they told you a professional footballers career can be hampered by a digestive and metabolic problem you would say its a lie. but that was what happened to Mario Gotze
http://www.independent.co.uk/sport/football/european/mario-gotze-borussia-dortmund-metabolic-disorder-withdrawn-indefinitely-a7602576.html

What is so ridiculous about Rooney a professional footballer having a back or spine injury that will affect his output cos I checked the link below and saw that Rooney actually had problems with his back around that time.

http://www.physioroom.com/news/english_premier_league/players/1499/wayne_rooney_injury.html

So elamps was actually right but the ignorant mob were probably wrong

Stop trying to placate his fragile ego!

Wayne Rooney has never and will never (by Zeus grace) have any sort of spine curvature issue in his life! please go and search the solar system and come and give me any evidence that he has ever faced such an issue? That was just a desperate attempt at trying to justify the guys pathetic form by his lover elamps! Who does that?

Create fictional reports just to defend a player? That's like me saying that wilfried bony's pathetic form while he was in city was due to AIDS and he is currently treating it! Does that make it true? Rational or even sensible? Now you want to take the gist in the direction of sports physiology as a means of helping him save face? Lwkmd! Never.......my point was the spreading of bare faced LIES using the name of wayne rooney in order to be seen as some sort of analytical guru rather than just simply admitting the guy was past it! I swear na waka pass fit some of una.....

sinizia:


Please, let's get something clear here, and not accuse Elampiro falsely. From your own post, you said Elampiro said "Pogba is the one BEING shitty".

Now, context is very important in arguments. You are concluding that Elampiro meant Pogba is a shitty player generally when actually, the context Elampiro made that statement in, he was trying to DEFEND ROONEY as always. It's basically him saying "instead of saying Rooney was the shitty player in today's match, it's actually Pogba that's the shitty player today. So cut Rooney some slacks".

Elampiro, from what I understood from that screenshot was trying to exonerate Rooney and was arguing ABOUT THAT PARTICULAR MATCH.

I really don't want to argue for or against Elampiro...it never ends well.It's always a you said, he said argument where Elampiro seems to have goofed but is still given a soft landing. In a law court, your argument of context will fall face flat. The question is a truth/false question and context in this case is irrelevant, only facts are. Did he make the statement or not?

crazypencils20:


Mind-numbing level of short-sightedness contained herein! Lmfao, "next worst thing since Welbeck"

There are people who have been grouped into the category of 'never do wells' here..He is second on the list.

Sevilla vs Liverpool or Dortmund vs Spurs?

I need to decide which match would be worth it tonight....

joeace2020:


I really don't want to argue for or against Elampiro...it never ends well.It's always a you said, he said argument where Elampiro seems to have goofed but is still given a soft landing. In a law court, your argument of context will fall face flat. The question is a truth/false question and context in this case is irrelevant, only facts are. Did he make the statement or not?

Have you been to a law court before.

On what basis is a statement made?

Secondly I told that guy to show me where I said money spent on Pogba was waste, he opened up irrelevant issues that were not there initially.

funlord:

Sevilla vs Liverpool or Dortmund vs Spurs?
I need to decide which match would be worth it tonight....

its gonna b d lpool match for me,but would watch both sha

funlord:


Sevilla vs Liverpool or Dortmund vs Spurs?

I need to decide which match would be worth it tonight....

Dortmund vs Tottenham

funlord:



Stop trying to placate his fragile ego!

Wayne Rooney has never and will never (by Zeus grace) have any sort of spine curvature issue in his life! please go and search the solar system and come and give me any evidence that he has ever faced such an issue? That was just a desperate attempt at trying to justify the guys pathetic form by his lover elamps! Who does that?

Create fictional reports just to defend a player? That's like me saying that wilfried bony's pathetic form while he was in city was due to AIDS and he is currently treating it! Does that make it true? Rational or even sensible? Now you want to take the gist in the direction of sports physiology as a means of helping him save face? Lwkmd! Never.......my point was the spreading of bare faced LIES using the name of wayne rooney in order to be seen as some sort of analytical guru rather than just simply admitting the guy was past it! I swear na waka pass fit some of una.....

Your analogy is very off, Does Wilfred Bony have AIDS at any point? No Did Rooney have a back injury at some point around the time elampiro posted? YES.

So how was he lying when it can be seen below that Rooney has the injury elamps said he did. You sef judge between the 2 of you, who is being unreasonable

You can call it spinal curvature but this was what elampiro said

elampiro:

His back injury probably got worse. May be he should be allowed to rest for a long time to get it heal properly.

He said this on October 10 2016.

According to the link I posted it shows Rooney had a back injury(spasm) like 2weeks earlier.

So what is wrong with linking his form then to the injury he had just less than 2 weeks earlier

With this post I have proven elamps said Rooney has a back injury, I have proven with a site that it was actually correct Rooney had a back problem around that time. All evidence till now shows Elamps was correct on the claim. Now you make yours and give us examples of why you said he was lying

sinizia:
Fashi talk, no matter how stubborn you think you are when it comes to arguments, no matter how long you think you can last in arguments, if you like sabi argue like Dayokanu, AS LONG AS ROONEY IS BEING CASTIGATED OR BLAMED, you can never win Elampawa. Them never born you well. Elampiro can blame Antispambot to exonerate Rooney.

Now you can judge for yourself, see the evidence I have provided above and tell was elamps lying when he made he claim about Rooneys back injury?

You now see what mob mentality does. Some people are too lazy to think or do their research and they will say he was lying while they were the ones with wrong information

raumdeuter:

Your analogy is very off, Does Wilfred Bony have AIDS at any point? No Did Rooney have a back injury at some point around the time elampiro posted? YES.

So how was he lying when it can be seen below that Rooney has the injury elamps said he did. You sef judge between the 2 of you, who is being unreasonable

You can call it spinal curvature but this was what elampiro said



He said this on October 10 2016.

According to the link I posted it shows Rooney had a back injury(spasm) like 2weeks earlier.

So what is wrong with linking his form then to the injury he had just less than 2 weeks earlier

[s]With this post I have proven elamps said Rooney has a back injury, I have proven with a site that it was actually correct Rooney had a back problem around that time. All evidence till now shows Elamps was correct on the claim. Now you make yours and give us examples of why you said he was [/s]lying

https://www.nairaland.com/871307/official-manchester-united-fan-thread/3393#50086763


With this post rather you have only proven that you are simply here to support your fellow dean in amala studies! Young man....how on earth can a back spasm in one week be the cause of a top players 3 seasons of rubbish football? Why not show us the very same injury being reflected in 2014 and 2015 and 2016? His worst seasons in a united shirt.....Who does not have back spasms? Messi or ronaldo? So Manchester united wanted to turn him into a cripple by ensuring he still played no matter what? So you and him work at carrington? Look at how you both are chatting bollocks with authority as if you both know the ins and outs of old trafford more than mourinho? Have they forgotten about his back spasms in everton? Or they want to complete the "operation cripple rooney job"........you could not produce a single article showing wayne rooney having any long term or residual back problems but instead went to bring one weak list of his injuries to make what point? Can't you see the arguments on that day and how the back issue became the only story that your man's could hold unto when he was being asked salient questions from all man on the thread!


So it was a back spasm that caused both mourinho and woodgate to send him to the bench at the same time? It was a back spasm that caused paul scholes, Rio ferdinand, Gary neville and a host of other legends to advice him to take a walk out of united? It was a back spasm that caused him to miss sitters, balloon balls, misplace 5 yard passes and not be able to score even up to 10 premier league goals in both 2014/15 and 2015/16 despite playing in one of the most attacking sides in europe as their top striker? It was his back spasms that caused a 35 year old zlatan to decimate his form with 28 league goals in the same position? So zlatan too does not have back spasms? Ogebni go and have lunch abeg you are delirious! Or you can go and hide like your man does and return at 1am to be posting tired and lame rebuttals to useless points within posts when the original posters are all asleep all in a bid to win one Alice in nairaland analyst award!

funlord:


https://www.nairaland.com/871307/official-manchester-united-fan-thread/3393#50086763


With this post rather you have only proven that you are simply here to support your fellow dean in amala studies! Young man....how on earth can a back spasm in one week be the cause of a top players 3 seasons of rubbish football? Why not show us the very same injury being reflected in 2014 and 2015 and 2016? His worst seasons in a united shirt.....Who does not have back spasms? Messi or ronaldo? So Manchester united wanted to turn him into a cripple by ensuring he still played no matter what? So you and him work at carrington? Look at how you both are chatting bollocks with authority as if you both know the ins and outs of old trafford more than mourinho? Have they forgotten about his back spasms in everton? Or they want to complete the "operation cripple rooney job"........you could not produce a single article showing wayne rooney having any long term or residual back problems but instead went to bring one weak list of his injuries to make what point? Can't you see the arguments on that day and how the back issue became the only story that your man's could hold unto when he was being asked salient questions from all man on the thread!


So it was a back spasm that caused both mourinho and woodgate to send him to the bench at the same time? It was a back spasm that caused paul scholes, Rio ferdinand, Gary neville and a host of other legends to advice him to take a walk out of united? It was a back spasm that caused him to miss sitters, balloon balls, misplace 5 yard passes and not be able to score even up to 10 premier league goals in both 2014/15 and 2015/16 despite playing in one of the most attacking sides in europe as their top striker? It was his back spasms that caused a 35 year old zlatan to decimate his form with 28 league goals in the same position? So zlatan too does not have back spasms? Ogebni go and have lunch abeg you are delirious! Or you can go and hide like your man does and return at 1am to be posting tired and lame rebuttals to useless points within posts when the original posters are all asleep all in a bid to win one Alice in nairaland analyst award!

This is low level reasoning.

Elampiro stated that Rooney back problem on October 10 2016 was the reason for his poor performance, Show us where elamps blamed Rooneys back problem for his performance in 2014, in 2015 or in 2010

Who does not have back spasms? Show us where in Ronaldo or other players injury history they wrote back spasm there. There is a reason it was written for Rooney unless you want to tell us the website who gave us his injury as back spasm was also edited by elamps to make excuses for Rooney

Its like askign why did Zlatan have a knee injury and why Iniesta didnt have the same injury, why did Pogba have an injury and why didnt KdB have the same injury. Does that make any sense?

What points have you actually made, because everything here shows that Elamps is actually the logical one

ZLatan played as a top striker for Man Utd and scored 28 goals, Tell us the last time Rooney played as a top striker for Man Utd and how many goals he scored in that season

I pray McTominay turns out to be as good as KBD - even better!

See the way Fellaini is looking at Pogba. Was he negotiating a transformation of skills?

Oasis007:
I pray McTominay turns out to be a good as KBD - even better!

Bro you doing a great job with the updates. I'm one of the guys that come on here to read updates posted by you .

Keep up the good work Bro!

metodman:


Bro you doing a great job with the updates. I'm one of the guys that come on here to read updates posted by you .

Keep up the good work Bro!

SailorXY:
the fact you assume the guy is trying to convince you sef is enough for you to see a psychiatrist

Nah man, I am straight up correct. I don't give a fvck about him and his hair-cuts either. Do you see me come here to post about him every other night and day!?

crazypencils20:


Mind-numbing level of short-sightedness contained herein! Lmfao, "next worst thing since Welbeck"

My guy. We all have our different "measures" for players, particularly those we regard as stars. Calling me "short-sighted" is just straight up disrespectful. All I gave is my own opinion on one player. You don't have to buy it; and you darn sure don't have any right to insult me too. Wen e no be like sey u follow for FIFA committee wen dey rank players!

RuffRuggedRaw:


My guy. We all have our different "measures" for players, particularly those we regard as stars. Calling me "short-sighted" is just straight up disrespectful. All I gave is my own opinion on one player. You don't have to buy it; and you darn sure don't have any right to insult me too. Wen e no be like sey u follow for FIFA committee wen dey rank players!

I'm sorry that you feel disrespected, I was only giving my opinion on your opinion.

Zlatan starts from the bench tomorrow. Lukaku in starting XI.