elampiro:


Don’t worry, I will give you one tomorrow. I saw some this afternoon.

But is Martial and Lukaku not to playing in same team? Why is Martial scoring well per minutes played?

sinizia:


Too much reliance on stats is bad. A month ago Adelana posted a stat that showed that Iago Aspas and about 3 other strikers scored goals that "won their teams more points" than Messi, Suarez and C. Ronaldo.

An unintelligent football analysts will foolishly declare Aspas as a better striker than Messi and Co. Afterall his goals were more "important" and Messi /CR7 were scoring "unimportant" league goals. But we know better.

Morata scored more "important" goals than Benzema, but Benzema is the top striker at Madrid till now while he's sold off.

Too much dependent on stats is bad. Cisse was scoring for fun for Newcastle in his debut season, using your analogy, he shouldn't had stop scoring for fun the next season.

Nothing is constant, Bro. Suarez was once prolific, right now he looks like the ghost of the real Suarez.

Murray might come January and even stop scoring for 10 matches in a row. Nothing is constant.

raumdeuter:


What of Mata, Mikitaryan Rashford? are they not Man Utd attackers?

Rashford hasnt scored a league goal since early September over 3months now

elampiro:


There is a difference in using stats to give report AS AT a given date and using stats to generalize (the future)

You have to understand that I am not using stats to tell that Lingard or Murray or Fellaini is a better scorer than Lukaku. We are saying that we are justified with these stats that Lukaku is currently poor and we have the right to complain.

His pass at opposition half, for instance, is a disgrace. His goals vs top scorers is way behind. His goals per minutes played is a disaster. He has scored one goal since September ending, and they said we should not talk.

elampiro:


There is a difference in using stats to give report AS AT a given date and using stats to generalize (the future)

You have to understand that I am not using stats to tell that Lingard or Murray or Fellaini is a better scorer than Lukaku. We are saying that we are justified with these stats that Lukaku is currently poor and we have the right to complain.

His pass at opposition half, for instance, is a disgrace. His goals vs top scorers is way behind. His goals per minutes played is a disaster. He has scored one goal since September ending, and they said we should not talk.

elampiro:


Lukaku has had better opportunity than the defensive errors you mentioned. Against Arsenal he used his hand to squander a chance to go meet keeper one vs one.

There are times he could have done one-two with his team mates, but he didn’t have the awareness. Kane would be praying for such.

elrony:

Andy Murray, with his racket !!!

raumdeuter:


Rashford has scored 1 goal in 3 months.
Take away penalties, Aguero has not scored since September

sinizia:


So it means Ukaku had no chance to miss any goal against Loserfool? You see what we're talking about? Meaning he didn't even see a defensive error to score from? So you see why Ukaku couldn't score like Joselu?

He squandered the chance to have a one vs one (not that he had a one vs one and missed o) against Arsenal, it's just one. But he played a part in Lingard's goal. He's not perfect, and he'll miss goals. Morata actually had one vs one against Atletico and missed it. So you see, strikers do miss chances.

I've criticised Ukaku before for being technically limited. We knew this before we bought him. Last match, Ukaku did one-two with a team-mate, linked well with his team-mates too. He's not a top striker, but there's room for improvement. He's trying, maybe not as we expected, but he's trying. Let's give him some time.

elampiro:


Lukaku has fallen short in all aspects. He cannot play, he has weak pass accuracy in opposition's half, he misses penalties and has not been scoring recently.

elampiro:


That is just a mistake in typing. You guys are now too many. Too many arguing against me alone. You guys don't want to accept truth and facts.

elampiro:


Sorry, I cannot help you if you see facts and still dispute them.

elampiro:


Don’t worry, I will give you one tomorrow. I saw some this afternoon.

But is Martial and Lukaku not to playing in same team? Why is Martial scoring well per minutes played?

elampiro:


He is not having those chances because he is poor.

The other players from small teams who scored against big teams, also didn't have chances. They forced it.

Lukaku has had chances against top teams and didn't score.

elampiro:


Lukaku has fallen short in all aspects. He cannot play, he has weak pass accuracy in opposition's half, he misses penalties and has not been scoring recently.

chrisley024:
Big lie! The picture you painted is over exaggerated just as you claimed his last performance was woeful. A striker that has fallen short in all aspects cannot have 8 goals and 4 assists even when we all see he now spends more time outside the opponent's box, drags defenders out and opening spaces for our attackers to score as we see in Martial and Lingard scoring. Dude is average in his technical abilities which is obvious to everyone before we got him and he is improving on that.

And I don't know how missing a pen translates to 'he misses penalties' just to score cheap points just as you claimed Murray scored at OT.

chrisley024:
Haha! Power of influence. Refs are human beings na

raumdeuter:


Bring any top striker of a big club and lets compare him to Lukaku

Take a game this striker has played and lukaku has also played e.g Say Aguero has played Team A away and Lukaku has played Team A away Let us compare the heat maps and let the people on here decide

elampiro:
Lukaku went on a longer spell than Aguero because Aguero missed 3 weeks of football. Or let's say he played 4 matches in a period Lukaku played 8

Aguero still scored in a crucial Champions League match. It is not a problem not to score from open in 4 matches.

elampiro:
All Liverpool players have higher defensive stats than Lukaku, except Salah. Lukaku beat Salah slightly on tackle while Salah beat him on Interception

Firmino has defensive stats of a defender. Very high

RuffRuggedRaw:


First of all. Take note that I have said nothing for or against Lukaku performance(s). Na u with elamps baba get dat matter!

I am only challenging your use of the argument that other top strikers "do less work than Lukaku" to defend him. Because I believe they all do the same amount of work.
That other top strikers spend more time in the opponent box than Lukaku does. I seriously doubt it. As an illustration, see the attached pic for Morata goal vs Utd. His starting position and distance to goal.

Also Man United only "parks the bus" against a very small number of teams, top 4 or 5 at best. Typically, against the rest, they would probably be more on the front foot with more possession. Lukaku would surely have done more defending at Everton and West Brom than in United!

RuffRuggedRaw:


First of all. Take note that I have said nothing for or against Lukaku performance(s). Na u with elamps baba get dat matter!

I am only challenging your use of the argument that other top strikers "do less work than Lukaku" to defend him. Because I believe they all do the same amount of work.
That other top strikers spend more time in the opponent box than Lukaku does. I seriously doubt it. As an illustration, see the attached pic for Morata goal vs Utd. His starting position and distance to goal.

Also Man United only "parks the bus" against a very small number of teams, top 4 or 5 at best. Typically, against the rest, they would probably be more on the front foot with more possession. Lukaku would surely have done more defending at Everton and West Brom than in United!

eph12:

Could this be why Firmino has just 5 goals and 2 assists compared to Lukaku's 8 goals and 4 assists?

elampiro:


Tell me why all Chelsea, Arsenal, Liverpool and Manchester City players have better defensive stats than Lukaku. Aguero, Lacazette, Gabriel, Morata, these are players ahead of Lukaku on scoring.