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Re: RCCG "Open Heaven": Daddy Freeze Reacts To Ban On Unauthorized Publication by Ilekokonit: 11:16pm On Jan 08, 2018
Mydazz:
What happened to salvation being free,...... You think an unbeliever will go and buy Open Heavens Devotional,....... A glimpse at one of the several ones shared on social media or broadcasted on whatsapp might be what someone needs.

True talk.

Pastor Matthew Ashimolowo got born again by reading a discarded christian tract when he was in a drunken state.

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Re: RCCG "Open Heaven": Daddy Freeze Reacts To Ban On Unauthorized Publication by mceze(m): 11:18pm On Jan 08, 2018
MAAP:
I am sorry for people who are carried away with this enemy of the Kingdom. I believe Muslim,athiest,and pegans enjoys all of this his nonesence.No true Christian,can be in dis team of antichrists. Why not verify your information before commenting. I charge you freeze and blind followers repent now.
Shut d f-up

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Re: RCCG "Open Heaven": Daddy Freeze Reacts To Ban On Unauthorized Publication by Charlesdock(m): 11:20pm On Jan 08, 2018
BRATISLAVA:


They should regulate its sale.

Some unscrupulous individuals resell this literature at a higher price in order to make a profit. The church sells at a profit to be able to keep producing more copies, but these other people who hawk it are a menace.
Yes, they should regulate it's sale.

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Re: RCCG "Open Heaven": Daddy Freeze Reacts To Ban On Unauthorized Publication by sweettease(f): 11:21pm On Jan 08, 2018
imustsaymymindo:

Religious book or not, unauthorized sharing can lead to misuse. Imaging people taking ideas from the book crediting it as theirs? Imaging lots of misquotations?

Also, piracy is illegal and religious books are not exepted. They are all intellectual property.
If they draw inspiration and ideas from the bible then I guess what goes around comes around. These books allegedly contain words powerful enough to heal the sick, lead people to Christ, mend the broken, etc so I don't think it should be treated like any other book. I can understand misquotations but did you read the circular? Sharing it is supposed to help its purpose but they felt this is the best way to handle it, like any other commercial book. They can as well apply the 'like any other' clause to paying tax for church collections.
Re: RCCG "Open Heaven": Daddy Freeze Reacts To Ban On Unauthorized Publication by Charlesdock(m): 11:22pm On Jan 08, 2018
TribesNG:

Spreading the word of God through illegal means? are you stupid?
I'm not Sir.
Still it remain the same, let it spread to the poor, to the needy. They just need to regulate it sale
Re: RCCG "Open Heaven": Daddy Freeze Reacts To Ban On Unauthorized Publication by Charlesdock(m): 11:24pm On Jan 08, 2018
bionixs:
so let unauthorized copies flow so people like freez would edit it ,spread false doctrine and end up blaming the same RCCG is castigating. I know the devil is out to use him to put the church under. but the day e go red for him, all of us will be here telling the story. It is the church that owes the people and not the government again by freez and his followers opinion .He has got soft target to shine with but that target kills like nuclear . am watching
I'm not in support of freeze I'm only concern about the word of God spreading and reaching the needy.
someone said they should regulate it, I will go with that.
Re: RCCG "Open Heaven": Daddy Freeze Reacts To Ban On Unauthorized Publication by tealaw(m): 11:33pm On Jan 08, 2018
Freeze, Freeze, the Nuclear reactor.

Re: RCCG "Open Heaven": Daddy Freeze Reacts To Ban On Unauthorized Publication by Etianwanokon: 11:34pm On Jan 08, 2018
People are printing it to sell without permission. How can you publish something that you are not the Author?
Re: RCCG "Open Heaven": Daddy Freeze Reacts To Ban On Unauthorized Publication by lloyds(m): 11:58pm On Jan 08, 2018
Freeze should just establish a church, let's see how he runs it. Agreeable, he says TB Joshua is his paddy, let that one groom him. .

He he can handle that successfully, then I will listen to his criticisms.

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Re: RCCG "Open Heaven": Daddy Freeze Reacts To Ban On Unauthorized Publication by rosita33(f): 12:03am On Jan 09, 2018
TreasuredGlory:
Must you react to everything? This is 2018: This nonsense must stop. Grow up and do your own thing. If you know the number of people RCCG employs and pays salaries to, you go fear and ask God for forgiveness.
can this person just shut up. Nigeria federal government go pay them salary before? all the Monet they steal can pay do that and more.
Re: RCCG "Open Heaven": Daddy Freeze Reacts To Ban On Unauthorized Publication by oluspicy: 12:25am On Jan 09, 2018
TreasuredGlory:
Must you react to everything? This is 2018: This nonsense must stop. Grow up and do your own thing. If you know the number of people RCCG employs and pays salaries to, you go fear and ask God for forgiveness.

God bless you and your generation for that comment. Am a beneficiary in DAT aspect and moving on with life.

Besides, I dont know how some pple just comment anyhow without factual facts. Its like they don't know the difference btw The Holy Bible from Open Heavens Daily Devotional Manual. The publisher of Open Heavens has a copyright under the law to protect his publications from unauthorized distributions which he single -handedly writes every year in, year out. And some senseless people are following Freeze in condemning the Church. God will forgive them all.

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Re: RCCG "Open Heaven": Daddy Freeze Reacts To Ban On Unauthorized Publication by abiola883: 12:30am On Jan 09, 2018
I believe you can reason deeper than this shadow minded thoughts. I know you understand me.
Flets:
Now this is the crux of the matter, There is no Christianity without love. Infact, the bible clearly stated that the greatest of all the commandment is love. Gideons international share free bible, Jehovah witness issue monthly publications free of charge, churches all over the west contribute immensely towards free outreach in Africa.

The problem the Nigerian churches face today is the absence of love in the practice of Christianity. Jesus died because of love, almost all the miracles by Jesus in the bible were borne out of love.

The early missionaries who brought Christianity went through untold hardship and death in the hand of malaria, many diseases and boat mishaps.... yet they were determined to bring us the gospel with the accompanying free schools, medical care, technology etc.

Unfortunately, what we have in Nigerian churches is greed, envy, hate and gross materialism. How can churches sit back and watch the multi-suffering of its members and yet seek to take away their money in the name of offering, tithe, first fruit etc? Tithing in the old testament was borne out of love "so that there will be meat in the house".... for everyone. In the absence of love, any teaching on giving is useless.

Infact, the state of our society is the reflection of the state of the church. The alarming lack of love is the major difference between the western and African society. That nature of our politics, economy, security etc is lack of love. If the church which should be the biblical lamp is hiding its love under the bushel...... how exactly do they intend to project Christ. Unfortunately, the Nigerian church spends more time defending its unloving practices than draw men to Christ.

Freeze will continue to win until the Church retraces its step back to Love because Love is the greatest. Without Love, Christianity cannot survive. Without Love, our fore fathers would never have left their traditional practices for Christianity.

Re: RCCG "Open Heaven": Daddy Freeze Reacts To Ban On Unauthorized Publication by Enskynelson(m): 12:41am On Jan 09, 2018
But to be fair, those unauthorised publishers are not doing it for the reason of sharing the gospel but for money-making reasons hence RCCG is right about this.

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Re: RCCG "Open Heaven": Daddy Freeze Reacts To Ban On Unauthorized Publication by Nobody: 1:20am On Jan 09, 2018
I dont even believe sone if these GOs believe in heaven self, if they do, i doubt they will be behaving like this. I think they belueve their heaven is right here on earth
Re: RCCG "Open Heaven": Daddy Freeze Reacts To Ban On Unauthorized Publication by Nobody: 1:24am On Jan 09, 2018
Have u ever being asked to pay for it when your receive it on whatsapp or facebook? moreover it is there pastors and their serious members that distribute this material. There is nothing special about it anyway, i prefer my daily manner
Enskynelson:
But to be fair, those unauthorised publishers are not doing it for the reason of sharing the gospel but for money-making reasons hence RCCG is right about this.
Re: RCCG "Open Heaven": Daddy Freeze Reacts To Ban On Unauthorized Publication by linearity: 1:25am On Jan 09, 2018
stinggy:
Freeze, you've made sense thus far, but on this, no matter how we put it, Copyright theft and similar crimes are very serious offences that should never be allowed in any form it comes angry

That is a porous defense.

The Bible they quoted the scriptures from was distributed free of charge by Gideon, I guess you must have heard of Gideon’s Bible.

Those who translated the Bible made it free to the public.

Even the business world will laugh at the church for making a profit from a derived work, when the original source is public and free...They have copyleft products, works, publications, software, etc that encourages people to share.

If you reads and understand the scriptures and Jesus urgent mandate to spread the word to the ends of the earth and to do that with a high sense of urgency, then any digital publication that will save or preserve a soul for God’s kingdom should have a copyleft license, it is greed that makes today’s men of God to instead publish them under copyright licenses.
Re: RCCG "Open Heaven": Daddy Freeze Reacts To Ban On Unauthorized Publication by linearity: 1:35am On Jan 09, 2018
VictorRomanov:
Freeze needs to be schooled on this one. Books such as these are copyrighted and protected by copyright laws, be it religious book or otherwise.

Reproducing without authorization or permission is punishable under the law.

Not true, you are putting the cart before the horse...

Not all books, work of Arts, publications, Intellectual Properties, films, softwares, etc are copyrighted.

You can also made these available under copyleft licenses. The decision to have copyright vs copyleft is the sole discretion of the author(s) and is mostly driven by either profit or protectionism.

There should not be protectionism or desire to make profit with the word of God. Freely you receive, freely you shall give. Plus, you were commanded by God to spread these word, don’t charge the people to whom you spread the word.

Publishing Christian works especially digital ones under copyright and not copyleft laws is wrong and defeats the whole essence of the word of God.
Re: RCCG "Open Heaven": Daddy Freeze Reacts To Ban On Unauthorized Publication by NigerianScholar: 2:49am On Jan 09, 2018
sweettease:
Is it no longer about spreading the gospel or is there something I don't understand?

The word used is unauthorised. There should not be any unauthorised publication of the book. It is a criminal and legal offence. It can lead to plagiatism. And the integrity of the content would be lost.

The only publication that may be allowed must agree with "fair use"


Kindly research on copyright before you quote me
Re: RCCG "Open Heaven": Daddy Freeze Reacts To Ban On Unauthorized Publication by NigerianScholar: 2:50am On Jan 09, 2018
eleojo23:
Freeze will soon turn to a nuclear reactor with the way he reacts on daily basis now.

Hell start to act again with the way he RE-acts
Re: RCCG "Open Heaven": Daddy Freeze Reacts To Ban On Unauthorized Publication by NigerianScholar: 2:52am On Jan 09, 2018
Charlesdock:
Why can't they let it circulate since it contain God's words. If people are blessed by it, they will sow back into the church.

People may manipulate the content
Re: RCCG "Open Heaven": Daddy Freeze Reacts To Ban On Unauthorized Publication by Nobody: 3:26am On Jan 09, 2018
kitaatita:

If you circulate via WhatsApp, Facebook, etc you'll deprive the church of sales revenue from hard copies.

Sales and revenue over salvation and winning souls to God? Let the truth be told, this is not christianity.
Re: RCCG "Open Heaven": Daddy Freeze Reacts To Ban On Unauthorized Publication by Nobody: 3:29am On Jan 09, 2018
Enskynelson:
But to be fair, those unauthorised publishers are not doing it for the reason of sharing the gospel but for money-making reasons hence RCCG is right about this.

So it shows the whole christianity thing as practiced in Nigeria is flawed. When they say praise the lord, they are actually thinking about bank account balance.
Re: RCCG "Open Heaven": Daddy Freeze Reacts To Ban On Unauthorized Publication by Nobody: 3:32am On Jan 09, 2018
imustsaymymindo:


Good question. You see what usually happens to those free books and pamphlets shared by religious bodies? It ends up most times as akara wrapping paper.

The thing is the price attached to it gives it value, the ban on unauthorize distribution also gives it more value. And the greater the value, the more the user thinks twice before its misuse.

What a lame response.
Re: RCCG "Open Heaven": Daddy Freeze Reacts To Ban On Unauthorized Publication by Nobody: 3:33am On Jan 09, 2018
TribesNG:


Did you buy your Bible for free? (that's even if you have a bible) Or did the Publishers pay for the words they used in the book?

Gideon international give out billions upon billions of free bibles incase youmdon't know.
Re: RCCG "Open Heaven": Daddy Freeze Reacts To Ban On Unauthorized Publication by Nobody: 3:37am On Jan 09, 2018
Fixed:
I thought Freeze said Pastor Adeboye is a businessman? So how come the Open Heaven written by the 'businessman' is now the "Word of God" that must be freely shared. He only ended up turning logic on its head.

This guy is just a confused being and is purely on an attack mission. He started with no tithing, yet he wants materials distributed free of charge; is the church going to turn paper to money or tell the printing press staff to work free of charge? At 3 employees per branch of rccg, the church will be paying salaries of not less than 100,000 staff!

There is no book reproduced in any form, even Gideon bibles and other free materials, without getting the permission of the author, and that is pretty much what the memo says.

You are the confused one here otherwise you should have known that this memo is a confirmation of freeze calling adeboye a businessman.
Re: RCCG "Open Heaven": Daddy Freeze Reacts To Ban On Unauthorized Publication by Nobody: 3:42am On Jan 09, 2018
BRATISLAVA:


They should regulate its sale.

Some unscrupulous individuals resell this literature at a higher price in order to make a profit. The church sells at a profit to be able to keep producing more copies, but these other people who hawk it are a menace.

That is still not an excuse. If they give it out for free, no hawker will sell it because nobody will buy. Now that it is being hoarded, it will be an even bigger Avenue for individuals to reproduce and sell at a higher price.
Re: RCCG "Open Heaven": Daddy Freeze Reacts To Ban On Unauthorized Publication by Nobody: 3:47am On Jan 09, 2018
Ilekokonit:




All Prophets And Priests Practice Deceit And Are Greedy According To The Bible

Jeremiah 6:13 (NIV) - From the least to the greatest, all are greedy for gain; prophets and priests alike, all practice deceit.

2 Peter 2:3 - In their greed these teachers will exploit you with fabricated stories.

1 Timothy 6:4 - People of corrupt mind, who have been robbed of the truth and who think that godliness is a means to financial gain.

Proverbs 22:16 - One who oppresses the poor to increase his wealth and one who gives gifts to the rich—both come to poverty.

1 Peter 5:2 - Be shepherds of God’s flock that is under your care, watching over them—not because you must, but because you are willing, as God wants you to be; not pursuing dishonest gain, but eager to serve;

Jeremiah 17:5 - Cursed is the one who trusts in man, who draws strength from mere flesh.v

Our pastorpreneurs will never ever quote these bible verses. Infact, if they had their way, the verses would have been removed a long time ago because it is not good for their church businesses.

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Re: RCCG "Open Heaven": Daddy Freeze Reacts To Ban On Unauthorized Publication by Nobody: 3:59am On Jan 09, 2018
TribesNG:

Shut up. Why is Daddy Freeze so focused on Pastor Adeboye? TB Joshua nko? Abi have u forgotten about 2016 America Election Prophesy? Cuz TB Joshua supported him on this tithe issue, he's not condemning TB Joshua. All you gullible people are unbelievers

Adeboye, joshua, oyedepo, olukoya and everyother pastorpreneurs are all the same. Thieves!!!
Re: RCCG "Open Heaven": Daddy Freeze Reacts To Ban On Unauthorized Publication by OkCornel(m): 4:21am On Jan 09, 2018
grin

I DIDN'T CALL ANYBODY'S NAME OOO

Give these Pastors a break...some of them may be doing what they think is right...whereas, the Bible is there for them to see...
Let's remember them in prayers...both the sheep and the shepherd need prayers...

Re: RCCG "Open Heaven": Daddy Freeze Reacts To Ban On Unauthorized Publication by tee4naija(m): 4:55am On Jan 09, 2018
stinggy:
Freeze, you've made sense thus far, but on this, no matter how we put it, Copyright theft and similar crimes are very serious offences that should never be allowed in any form it comes angry
Copyright laws are made to protect intellectual property owners. The word of God is not an intellectual property. People should even be encouraged and commended for sharing it.

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Re: RCCG "Open Heaven": Daddy Freeze Reacts To Ban On Unauthorized Publication by festwiz(m): 5:24am On Jan 09, 2018
kosisoOkafor:
And they will use your urine to keep printing it. Go and borrow sense.
Have you owned a Gideon Bible? If no shut the fúck up. The organization is run based on donations from christians and the like. Don't bring your ignorance to social media, it speaks ill of your person.
Re: RCCG "Open Heaven": Daddy Freeze Reacts To Ban On Unauthorized Publication by festwiz(m): 5:27am On Jan 09, 2018
asuustrike2009:

They don't charge a dime but money flows from people's pocket
Yes. You can go to their website and donate what you can. They don't coerce anyone into giving. That should be a benchmark on christianity not the affluence Nigerian pastors e.g the G.O of RCCG surrounds themselves with.

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