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Re: Why People Are Atheists? by ScienceWatch: 4:53pm On Jan 10, 2018
DeSepiero:


I lack that Strong believe that a Jewish maiden conceived out of wedlock and birthed a son who died before I was born to save me from a place of eternal torment that he designed because this guy is God.

I lack a strong believe in many other unfounded myths and ancient folklore.

I lack a strong believe in Santa Claus, and spiderman.

I lack a strong belief that Buhari is the saviour of Nigeria.


Who says I'm expected to have those beliefs. How helpful are they? grin

Not all beliefs are necessary bro, grow up, wake from your fantasies and face reality !!


Stay were you are, you LACK TOO MUCH. Kingebukasblog did not ask you to believe anything. He is too wise for that.
He speaks to encourage those that posses the spiritual asset of humility. He effectively reaches out to those that have evolved from a base logical materialistic view to a much higher level where unhindered reason and intuition demonstrates possibilities beyond scientific reach.

You are the one that should grow up and wake up from your fantasies.

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Re: Why People Are Atheists? by DeSepiero(m): 5:01pm On Jan 10, 2018
ScienceWatch:
Stay were you are, you LACK TOO MUCH. Kingebukasblog did not ask you to believe anything. He is too wise for that.
He speaks to encourage those that posses the spiritual asset of humility. He effectively reaches out to those that have evolved from a base logical materialistic view to a much higher level where unhindered reason and intuition demonstrates possibilities beyond scientific reach.

You are the one that should grow up and wake up from your fantasies.

Of course I LACK TOO MUCH UNNECESSARY BELIEFS.

I'm not against encouragements and preachings of hope and love.
My point is 'don't lose your sense of reason, empathy and humanity while at it'
Re: Why People Are Atheists? by sonofthunder: 5:11pm On Jan 10, 2018
butterflyl1on:

grin cheesy
This guy you are simply impossible.
I tell you.

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Re: Why People Are Atheists? by sonofthunder: 5:11pm On Jan 10, 2018
butterflyl1on:

grin cheesy
This guy you are simply impossible.
I tell you.
Re: Why People Are Atheists? by sonofthunder: 5:11pm On Jan 10, 2018
butterflyl1on:

grin cheesy
This guy you are simply impossible.
I tell you.
Re: Why People Are Atheists? by ScienceWatch: 5:17pm On Jan 10, 2018
DeSepiero:


Of course I LACK TOO MUCH UNNECESSARY BELIEFS.

I'm not against encouragements and preachings of hope and love.
My point is 'don't lose your sense of reason, empathy and humanity while at it'

You are wrong again, you lack too much necessary TRUTH to believe the right things. That is why you resort to mocking what you can not understand.

Your comments above is loaded with personal contradictions compared with what you told the highly esteemed Kingebukasblog earlier.
You childishly mocked him when you said, "grow up, wake from your fantasies and face reality."

The King is brilliant at remaining unbiased in a storm of conflicting beliefs. You are the one that lost your sense of reason, empathy and humanity when you falsely claim that the holy, revered and treasured ancient doctrines of world religions are mere "unfounded myths and ancient folklore." Your arrogance is legendary !!
Re: Why People Are Atheists? by butterflyl1on: 5:18pm On Jan 10, 2018
DeSepiero:


Of course I LACK TOO MUCH UNNECESSARY BELIEFS.

I'm not against encouragements and preachings of hope and love.
My point is 'don't lose your sense of reason, empathy and humanity while at it'

The one who LACKS TOO MUCH is the one who also lacks empathy, humanity and a sense of reason as well.

You have so many holes in you, you are like a sieve.

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Re: Why People Are Atheists? by butterflyl1on: 5:20pm On Jan 10, 2018
butterflyl1on:
Pesty100 you know gold and diamonds are limited on the planet hence their very high values right? If I gave you a stack of gold or a stack of diamonds and then one day you go blind and can no longer see them in all their beauty and glory would you throw them away because you went blind?

Pesty100 I am still waiting for your answer to this question.
Re: Why People Are Atheists? by DeSepiero(m): 5:25pm On Jan 10, 2018
ScienceWatch:
You are wrong again, you lack too much necessary TRUTH to believe the right things. That is why you resort to mocking what you can not understand.

Your comments above is loaded with personal contradictions compared with what you told the highly esteemed Kingebukasblog earlier.
You childishly mocked him when you said, "grow up, wake from your fantasies and face reality."

The King is brilliant at remaining unbiased in a storm of conflicting beliefs. You are the one that lost your sense of reason, empathy and humanity when you falsely claim that the holy, revered and treasured ancient doctrines of world religions are mere "unfounded myths and ancient folklore." Your arrogance is legendary !!



Lol ...sorry I mocked your king grin
You won't ever disappoint with you vacuous posts.
While I did not categorically classify any religion as ancient myth and folklore, you quickly assumed so out of you own convictions. Don't fight it; quit the delusion.
Re: Why People Are Atheists? by DeSepiero(m): 5:29pm On Jan 10, 2018
butterflyl1on:


The one who LACKS TOO MUCH is the one who also lacks empathy, humanity and a sense of reason as well.

You have so many holes in you, you are like a sieve.

"The one who lacks too much..." why did you stop there when I said I lacked UNNECESSARY BELIEFS?

When you classify empathy, humanity and reason as unnecessary beliefs, then its obvious that your brain is the sieve!
Re: Why People Are Atheists? by butterflyl1on: 5:37pm On Jan 10, 2018
DeSepiero:


"The one who lacks too much..." why did you stop there when I said I lacked UNNECESSARY BELIEFS?

When you classify empathy, humanity and reason as unnecessary beliefs, then its obvious that your brain is the sieve!

When you classified the virgin birth and the birth and resurrection of Jesus as unnecessary beliefs that very much was when numerous holes opened up in you and turned you into a human sieve.

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Re: Why People Are Atheists? by DeSepiero(m): 5:44pm On Jan 10, 2018
butterflyl1on:


When you classified the virgin birth and the birth and resurrection of Jesus as unnecessary beliefs that very much was when numerous holes opened up in you and turned you into a human sieve.

The same way you (as a staunch christian) would regard the belief in Prophet Muhammad the prophet of Allah the one true God as unnecessary which has opened numerous holes in your porous brain grin
I thought you were smarter than this.
Re: Why People Are Atheists? by ScienceWatch: 5:47pm On Jan 10, 2018
DeSepiero:


Of course I LACK TOO MUCH UNNECESSARY BELIEFS.

I'm not against encouragements and preachings of hope and love.
My point is 'don't lose your sense of reason, empathy and humanity while at it'

Dont decieve the readers, you are a mocker of world religions and their holy doctrines. Butterflyl1on is still waiting for Atheists to
answer his question ; "What has Atheism to offer humanity."

Some of the awesome contributions that religions teach us is much that Jesus, Buddha and Mohammed left behind for humanity , it is their encouragement of courageous moods rather than cowardly ones; their constant reiteration that optimistic, positive, constructive, and cheerful thoughts are more valuable to man than pessimistic, negative, destructive, and hopeless ones ; and their frequent reminder that it is good to hear what the silent minutes of mental quiet have to say to us.

Yes there are corrupt people that enter everywhere . For hundreds of years they have feed off their selfishness and greed. They have set
out professedly to spiritualize materialism and have succeeded in materializing spirituality.
This happens especially when they degenerate into systems for turning thoughts into things, mental images into physical
realities, and airy nothings into solid somethings by believing in them! These crookes trash the spiritual essence of the original.

The magical transformation of poverty into prosperity, of sickness into good health almost overnight, is frequently claimed by the theorists of these systems, but seldom demonstrated by the followers because the spiritual teachings are correct but the leader is corrupt. The spiritual deity can never be fooled by the leader.

Therefore science says that the matter is somewhat complicated by the fact that there is some truth, some wisdom with their nonsense, and some virtue with their assertions. The root of the matter, however, is that they cater to the satisfaction of man's personal desires, whilst assuring him that they lead him into the kingdom of heaven at the same time. The thing can be done, of course, but not in their
way.
There is a vital difference of approach and result between the two ways as seen in the SCOAN among other churches. That difference is rooted in the attitude adopted towards the personal ego, Butterflyl1on also explained here the critical difference selfless service makes to the final outcome.
Re: Why People Are Atheists? by ScienceWatch: 5:54pm On Jan 10, 2018
DeSepiero:



Lol ...sorry I mocked your king grin
You won't ever disappoint with you vacuous posts.
While I did not categorically classify any religion as ancient myth and folklore, you quickly assumed so out of you own convictions. Don't fight it; quit the delusion.

Oh, I agree that you were referring to Hinduism. Now that is a low blow. Dont you have any respect for the holy, revered doctrines of Millions of decent people? Tell us what you have to offer that is superior to what world religions have to offer humanity?

God forbid, if you come up with something !!

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Re: Why People Are Atheists? by ScienceWatch: 6:04pm On Jan 10, 2018
DeSepiero:



Lol ...sorry I mocked your king grin
You won't ever disappoint with you vacuous posts.
While I did not categorically classify any religion as ancient myth and folklore, you quickly assumed so out of you own convictions. Don't fight it; quit the delusion.

Why cant you see that you have already mocked yourself. I have quickly seen your deception when you omitted the names.
It is your delusion that you must rather dump. It is 2018, and your holiday with religions are over. Christians especially wont stand back while you cowardly trash their precious ancient, holy Scriptures with your crap.

[b]If you are brave enough, [/b]Tell us what does Atheism disguised as Agnosticism have to offer humanity. Why is that such a difficult question to answer? The esteemed Butterfll1on has been begging for an answer.
Re: Why People Are Atheists? by butterflyl1on: 6:09pm On Jan 10, 2018
DeSepiero:


The same way you (as a staunch christian) would regard the belief in Prophet Muhammad the prophet of Allah the one true God as unnecessary which has opened numerous holes in your porous brain grin
I thought you were smarter than this.

Funny enough, Christians DO NOT consider the belief in Mohammed or Allah as UNNECESSARY. We regard it as MISPLACED.

Those like you who do not believe in their existence are those who regard them as unnecessary.

Stop passing your delusion around on other people.
Re: Why People Are Atheists? by DeSepiero(m): 6:09pm On Jan 10, 2018
ScienceWatch:
Dont decieve the readers, you are a mocker of world religions and their holy doctrines. Butterflyl1on is still waiting for Atheists to
answer his question ; "What has Atheism to offer humanity."

Some of the awesome contributions that religions teach us is much that Jesus, Buddha and Mohammed left behind for humanity , it is their encouragement of courageous moods rather than cowardly ones; their constant reiteration that optimistic, positive, constructive, and cheerful thoughts are more valuable to man than pessimistic, negative, destructive, and hopeless ones ; and their frequent reminder that it is good to hear what the silent minutes of mental quiet have to say to us.

Yes there are corrupt people that enter everywhere . For hundreds of years they have feed off their selfishness and greed. They have set
out professedly to spiritualize materialism and have succeeded in materializing spirituality.
This happens especially when they degenerate into systems for turning thoughts into things, mental images into physical
realities, and airy nothings into solid somethings by believing in them! These crookes trash the spiritual essence of the original.

The magical transformation of poverty into prosperity, of sickness into good health almost overnight, is frequently claimed by the theorists of these systems, but seldom demonstrated by the followers because the spiritual teachings are correct but the leader is corrupt. The spiritual deity can never be fooled by the leader.

Therefore science says that the matter is somewhat complicated by the fact that there is some truth, some wisdom with their nonsense, and some virtue with their assertions. The root of the matter, however, is that they cater to the satisfaction of man's personal desires, whilst assuring him that they lead him into the kingdom of heaven at the same time. The thing can be done, of course, but not in their
way.
There is a vital difference of approach and result between the two ways as seen in the SCOAN among other churches. That difference is rooted in the attitude adopted towards the personal ego, Butterflyl1on also explained here the critical difference selfless service makes to the final outcome.

Too many words
Re: Why People Are Atheists? by DeSepiero(m): 6:10pm On Jan 10, 2018
ScienceWatch:
Dont decieve the readers, you are a mocker of world religions and their holy doctrines. Butterflyl1on is still waiting for Atheists to
answer his question ; "What has Atheism to offer humanity."

Some of the awesome contributions that religions teach us is much that Jesus, Buddha and Mohammed left behind for humanity , it is their encouragement of courageous moods rather than cowardly ones; their constant reiteration that optimistic, positive, constructive, and cheerful thoughts are more valuable to man than pessimistic, negative, destructive, and hopeless ones ; and their frequent reminder that it is good to hear what the silent minutes of mental quiet have to say to us.

Yes there are corrupt people that enter everywhere . For hundreds of years they have feed off their selfishness and greed. They have set
out professedly to spiritualize materialism and have succeeded in materializing spirituality.
This happens especially when they degenerate into systems for turning thoughts into things, mental images into physical
realities, and airy nothings into solid somethings by believing in them! These crookes trash the spiritual essence of the original.

The magical transformation of poverty into prosperity, of sickness into good health almost overnight, is frequently claimed by the theorists of these systems, but seldom demonstrated by the followers because the spiritual teachings are correct but the leader is corrupt. The spiritual deity can never be fooled by the leader.

Therefore science says that the matter is somewhat complicated by the fact that there is some truth, some wisdom with their nonsense, and some virtue with their assertions. The root of the matter, however, is that they cater to the satisfaction of man's personal desires, whilst assuring him that they lead him into the kingdom of heaven at the same time. The thing can be done, of course, but not in their
way.
There is a vital difference of approach and result between the two ways as seen in the SCOAN among other churches. That difference is rooted in the attitude adopted towards the personal ego, Butterflyl1on also explained here the critical difference selfless service makes to the final outcome.

I blame it on your ignorance and leave it to you to research and discover the various atheistic religions that are practiced where adherents do not necessarily believe in a Creator god and are the most peaceful around the world.
Re: Why People Are Atheists? by ScienceWatch: 6:16pm On Jan 10, 2018
DeSepiero:


Too many words
Your mind is too small !

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Re: Why People Are Atheists? by ScienceWatch: 6:19pm On Jan 10, 2018
DeSepiero:


I blame it on your ignorance and leave it to you to research and discover the various atheistic religions that are practiced where adherents do not necessarily believe in a Creator god and are the most peaceful around the world.

You came to mock. You tell us what it is that Atheism offers humanity that you seem so proud of, yet you are too shy to
list in it public?
Re: Why People Are Atheists? by ScienceWatch: 6:20pm On Jan 10, 2018
DeSepiero:


I blame it on your ignorance and leave it to you to research and discover the various atheistic religions that are practiced where adherents do not necessarily believe in a Creator god and are the most peaceful around the world.

You came to mock. Why send me on a wild goose chase? You tell us what it is that Atheism offers humanity that you seem so proud of, yet you are too shy to
list in it public? What is it that you are hiding ?
Re: Why People Are Atheists? by DeSepiero(m): 6:20pm On Jan 10, 2018
butterflyl1on:


Funny enough, Christians DO NOT consider the belief in Mohammed or Allah as UNNECESSARY. We regard it as MISPLACED.

Those like you who do not believe in their existence are those who regard them as unnecessary.

Stop passing your delusion around on other people.


Do you unnecessarily belief in misplaced ideologies? Is it necessary for you to belief that God (Allah) has no son? Speak for yourself, you're not all the Christians.

Stop being dishonest with your wordplay. For considering the belief that Allah is God and he has no son is misplaced, your brain is porous. grin

I hail your logic grin

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Re: Why People Are Atheists? by DeSepiero(m): 6:22pm On Jan 10, 2018
ScienceWatch:
Your mind is too small !
Your mind is filled with JUNK! grin
Re: Why People Are Atheists? by butterflyl1on: 6:23pm On Jan 10, 2018
DeSepiero:


Do you unnecessarily belief in misplaced ideologies? Is it necessary for you to belief that God (Allah) has no son? Speak for yourself, you're not all the Christians.

Stop being dishonest with your wordplay. For considering the belief that Allah is God and he has no son, your brain is porous. grin

I hail your logic grin

Ironically your comment though you think is directed at me a Christian you are actually directing it at Muslims.

Continue with your confused delusion cheesy
Re: Why People Are Atheists? by boringnigerian: 6:28pm On Jan 10, 2018
butterflyl1on:


You failed to read and understand properly. I know we choose our own purpose which was why I directly asked him for his own purpose as an atheist outside his job since he said his comments are solely his personal opinion and atheism has no purpose and offers nothing and that we only live so we can become worm food. Can you show me where I suggested there was a preset purpose? Saying you beg to differ is simply you begging to support since I never said anything you differed with to begin with.

Why do y'all feel like any response that doesn't agree with you is an attack on you or your position? Me saying I beg to differ means I'm differing from my understanding of what you wrote. No need to get so defensive.
Re: Why People Are Atheists? by DeSepiero(m): 6:29pm On Jan 10, 2018
ScienceWatch:
You came to mock. Why send me on a wild goose chase? You tell us what it is that Atheism offers humanity that you seem so proud of, yet you are too shy to
list in it public? What is it that you are hiding ?

I can't force a donkey to drink after taking it to the stream.

I'm not obliged to school you of your ignorance.
Re: Why People Are Atheists? by butterflyl1on: 6:31pm On Jan 10, 2018
boringnigerian:


Why do y'all feel like any response that doesn't agree with you is an attack on you or your position? Me saying I beg to differ means I'm differing from my understanding of what you wrote. No need to get so defensive.

I am not getting defensive. I am simply correcting your error. You cannot say you differ and then say the same thing I meant when I said mine.
Re: Why People Are Atheists? by DeSepiero(m): 6:39pm On Jan 10, 2018
butterflyl1on:


Ironically your comment though you think is directed at me a Christian you are actually directing it at Muslims.

Continue with your confused delusion cheesy

I'm NOT directing anything at Muslims yet.
I don't subscribe to your Christian ideology, same way you don't subscribe to Islamic ideology.
Yet you throw jabs at me for not subscribing to yours while you refer to others' as misplaced?

I'm showing you how wrong you are by thinking that I'm wrong because I don't subscribe to your ideology.

Aren't you the one who's delusional and hypocritical? grin
Re: Why People Are Atheists? by butterflyl1on: 6:43pm On Jan 10, 2018
DeSepiero:


I'm NOT directing anything at Muslims yet.
I don't subscribe to your Christian ideology, same way you don't subscribe to Islamic ideology.
Yet you throw jabs at me for not subscribing to yours while you refer to others' as misplaced?

I'm showing you how wrong you are by thinking that I'm wrong because I don't subscribe to your ideology.

Aren't you the one who's delusional and hypocritical? grin

Eeyah this your delusion is growing o. How can you be trying to show me something by speaking as Muslims would when addressing christians and not speaking as Christians would when Islam is concerned.

First deliver yourself from how wrong you are because you are all over the place here and it's not a pretty picture grin
Re: Why People Are Atheists? by DeSepiero(m): 6:46pm On Jan 10, 2018
ScienceWatch:
Why cant you see that you have already mocked yourself. I have quickly seen your deception when you omitted the names.
It is your delusion that you must rather dump. It is 2018, and your holiday with religions are over. Christians especially wont stand back while you cowardly trash their precious ancient, holy Scriptures with your crap.

[b]If you are brave enough, [/b]Tell us what does Atheism disguised as Agnosticism have to offer humanity. Why is that such a difficult question to answer? The esteemed Butterfll1on has been begging for an answer.

If you're honest and sincere, you'd quietly search for what you seek; the internet is your friend. Instead you're here making noise and calling everyone esteemed but yourself grin
Re: Why People Are Atheists? by ScienceWatch: 6:51pm On Jan 10, 2018
DeSepiero:


I blame it on your ignorance and leave it to you to research and discover the various atheistic religions that are practiced where adherents do not necessarily believe in a Creator god and are the most peaceful around the world.

After you have admitted here that ATHEISM IS A RELIGION, Your leader of modern Atheism Richard Dawkins will be whispering in Harris's ear saying THE END IS NIEGH.

The major advantage world religions have over Atheism is that they accept truth for its own sake whether it brings them bad problems or good health. If you seek truth only for the benefits it is going to bring you then you are not going to find it, because you are seeking the benefits and not the truth itself.

Atheists do not know that truth is so like a proud and exclusive lady that she will never give herself to you unless you seek her for her own sake. She knows that Atheists only see her as a sex object.

We hear sometimes of successful results obtained amidst many failures. We hear always of the successes, we do not always hear of the failures, which greatly outnumber the others. The successes are real but they are few, and they can be accounted for by the powers of the spiritual deity. They are achieved by the powers of the God.

Unless these religious leaders understand [/b]that they are dealing with the latent but little known powers of the human heart/soul/spirit in tandem with the powers of God, they are just blind leaders of the blind.
And dealing with such spiritual powers demands care not to fall into black magic. Many of religions are unconsciously practising black magic. It is a fallacy to think about using hypnotism without the persons willingness and a pre-hypnotic preparation to influence other persons, but there is always a price, a terrible penalty to be paid by the practitioner

[b]ATHEISTS CAN NOT UNDERSTAND THE SPIRITUAL NATURE OF GOD
!!.

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Re: Why People Are Atheists? by DeSepiero(m): 6:52pm On Jan 10, 2018
butterflyl1on:


Eeyah this your delusion is growing o. How can you be trying to show me something by speaking as Muslims would when addressing christians and not speaking as Christians would when Islam is concerned.

First deliver yourself from how wrong you are because you are all over the place here and it's not a pretty picture grin

Lol cheesy
I'm empathetic so I can speak from a Muslim perspective and leave the Christian perspective for you since you have shown that you can speak for all Christians when you regard Islamic ideas as misplaced.

If you can't show me how wrong I am, my brother hide your face grin

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