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Re: Trump Alarms Lawmakers With Disparaging Words For Haiti And Africa by TheGreatIYANU: 12:58pm On Jan 12, 2018
Mudley313:


Are these people defending Trump on here actually Nigerians/blacks

The context of his statement matters. Let me try and break it down for you:

Example A

Me: Nigeria is a sh*thole country. Too much greed, corruption, 419, ritual killings, boko haram etc.

Example B:

Job Recruitment Officer: Why do we hire people from sh*thole countries such as from Africa, India, Haiti etc. I would rather hire Merit based such as people from Norway

Example A is what you're arguing; Example B is what the sh8thead Trump is advocating for when you replace employment with immigration


Maybe I woke up on the wrong side of bed this morning but I don't see your POINT bros. Can you explain further

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Re: Trump Alarms Lawmakers With Disparaging Words For Haiti And Africa by humilitypays(m): 1:06pm On Jan 12, 2018
TheGreatIYANU:
DID HE LIE?

When someone insults me, I don't immediately castigate. I weigh the statement and ask myself...

Is this statement TRUE? Is there any iota of TRUTH to it? With honest personal introspection, I look inward and judge. If I see any semblance of truth o the statement, I immediately initiate a process to make AMENDS where necessary.

If it is not, I don't judge the abuser... I simply pity his ignominy and shallow mind.

I fear Trump's statement has (not an iota) but a Plethora of Truths to it!

African people should wake up and DEMAND Excellence!

The Land is not cursed. The People are.
Don't mind Africans....let them keep cursing and throwing jabs at Trump, a billionaire, a made man, the number 1 citizen of the world today....let them not go and face their useless presidents and governors and senators and ministers and demand excellent leadership from them or every Nigerian go to the street and live until the stupid leaders resign.

Iran, a radical muslim country is doing it....every part of the world is waking up and challenging their leaders to do things right for their nation to move away from poverty to developed nation, but here in Nigeria and Africa, we prefer to lie to ourselves to feel good while we go to bed hungry, scared of our life and scared of tomorrow angry angry angry

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Re: Trump Alarms Lawmakers With Disparaging Words For Haiti And Africa by TheGreatIYANU: 1:15pm On Jan 12, 2018
humilitypays:
Don't mind Africans....let they keep cursing and throwing jabs at Trump, a billionaire, a made man, the number 1 citizen of the world today....let them not go and face their useless presidents and governors and senators and ministers and demand excellent leadership from them or every Nigerian go to the street and live until the stupid leaders resign.

Iran, a radical muslim country is doing it....every part of the world is waking up and challenging their leaders to do things right for their nation to move away from poverty to developed nation, but here in Nigeria and Africa, we prefer to lie to ourselves to feel good while we go to bed hungry, scared of our life and scared of tomorrow angry angry angry

Bless you bros!!! Thank you for SEEING and SPEAKING the TRUTH!

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Re: Trump Alarms Lawmakers With Disparaging Words For Haiti And Africa by FoolaniMadsman: 1:36pm On Jan 12, 2018
swashbuckler84:


This came out yesterday, you slowpoke. The story you’re referring to was the huts comment, which he said last year and only became public recently. Go learn how to read.

You Id.iot stop believing what the useless mainstream media spits out especially NY times Washington Post and CNN have an original thought. The USA economy is the best it has been in years just because Trump tweets or says something idi.ots like you jump on it like a pack of wild hyenas. But you idiots don't understand he is trolling you guys. While you guys are masterbating over his last tweet he is there passing legislation in the house. F.uc.k all you liberal a.ss.holes because your b.tch Crooked Hilary ain't in office . Let him Govern and make America great again . If Buhari did 10% of what Trump is doing we wouldn't be in this mess we are in so even if he said it which i highly doubt was he wrong? (Let some one come out and say they were there when he said it)Africa is a sh.thole with archaic leaders with zero vision.

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Re: Trump Alarms Lawmakers With Disparaging Words For Haiti And Africa by bet9ja(m): 1:52pm On Jan 12, 2018
President Trump spoke my mind, I have been hoping for this day.

Let us do the maths,

Lets picture other developed country coming up with controversial remarks about Nigeria.

There will be hit among our politicians and that will open doors for people of like minds to be recognized in politics and thing will move in the right direction.
Re: Trump Alarms Lawmakers With Disparaging Words For Haiti And Africa by Dsov2016: 3:31pm On Jan 12, 2018
humilitypays:
Anything that will make Africans wake up and have sense is welcomed!

We Africans need to wake up and surprise the world like China.

Nigeria ought to lead that way...Nigeria need to lead other black African nations to light and let the world celebrate us for once cry cry

Don't blame Trump, if u were in his shoes, u would hate Africans, everything about Africa is bad.
We and MiddleEast are now the headquarters of barbarism; from Islamic terrorists from Middle east, north Africa, and Nigeria (Book Haram & Fulani herdsmen), to political corruption, government looting, tribalism, ethnic cleansing, generational poverty and what have you.

What good is Africa to the rest of the world

We flood Europe, America, etc, thereby destabilizing their economy instead of fighting our useless governments to fix our nations and make our nations okay for us to stay back, we prefer to flee from our problem only to come back to them later, its a shame

and the funny thing about ur post is that all these has and is happening in the west. does that make them shitholes too. my friend emancipate itself from your very ignorant pre conceived notions

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Re: Trump Alarms Lawmakers With Disparaging Words For Haiti And Africa by Dsov2016: 3:37pm On Jan 12, 2018
really all those who are saying and supporting trump in his assertions have serious lack of self pride. they are the examples of typical Africans who led this continent to its problems. monkey no fine but him ma like am. u think what is going on in Nigeria is terrible then look to other countries even us itself and u will realise that they are in even worse situation than ours

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Re: Trump Alarms Lawmakers With Disparaging Words For Haiti And Africa by Blade50002: 4:25pm On Jan 12, 2018
Dsov2016:
really all those who are saying and supporting trump in his assertions have serious lack of self pride. they are the examples of typical Africans who led this continent to its problems. monkey no fine but him ma like am. u think what is going on in Nigeria is terrible then look to other countries even us itself and u will realize that they are in even worse situation than ours

Dsov I love our country EXTREMELY! But what he said is the truth. Nigeria is a fucking shit hole! We must make our leaders stand up or we must become the new leaders and make the change. Nigerian politicians have robbed at least 5 generations to come of the opportunity for a good life. Let's see if we can salvage future for those after us. I live in the US and here a lot of Nigerians are living much better than the whites. I have promised myself that I will follow the example of Innoson motors and a lot of strong entrepreneurs in Ogun State. My resources will be spent developing profitable businesses which create jobs in my state and my first business will be in my village. Northern, Southern, Eastern and Western Nigerians must begin to reason like that. We also need new cities. When one man builds in one area that is good others follow. We should also go for planned residential and industrial infrastructural development. We can do it together.
Re: Trump Alarms Lawmakers With Disparaging Words For Haiti And Africa by akigbemaru: 4:26pm On Jan 12, 2018
Kei144:


President Trump on Thursday balked at an immigration deal that would include protections for people from Haiti and some nations in Africa, demanding to know at a White House meeting why he should accept immigrants from “shithole countries” rather than from places like Norway, according to people with direct knowledge of the conversation.

Mr. Trump’s remarks, the latest example of his penchant for racially tinged remarks denigrating immigrants, left members of Congress from both parties attending the meeting in the Cabinet Room alarmed and mystified. He made them during a discussion of an emerging bipartisan deal to give legal status to immigrants illegally brought to the United States as children, those with knowledge of the conversation said, speaking on the condition of anonymity to discuss the meeting.

When Mr. Trump heard that Haitians were among those who would benefit from the proposed deal, he asked whether they could be left out of the plan, asking, “Why do we want people from Haiti here?”

The comments were reminiscent of ones the president made last year in an Oval Office meeting with cabinet officials and administration aides, during which he complained about admitting Haitians to the country, saying that they all had AIDS, as well as Nigerians, who he said would never go back to their “huts,” according to officials who heard the statements in person or were briefed on the remarks by people who had. The White House vehemently denied last month that Mr. Trump made those remarks.

In a written statement, Raj Shah, the White House deputy press secretary, did not deny the account of the meeting on Thursday or directly address Mr. Trump’s comments.

“Certain Washington politicians choose to fight for foreign countries, but President Trump will always fight for the American people,” Mr. Shah said. “Like other nations that have merit-based immigration, President Trump is fighting for permanent solutions that make our country stronger by welcoming those who can contribute to our society, grow our economy and assimilate into our great nation.”

But the president’s vulgar language on a delicate issue left the fate of the broader immigration debate in limbo and had the potential to torpedo the chances of achieving the deal being sought to protect about 800,000 undocumented immigrants brought to the country as children. And they drew a backlash from Republican and Democratic lawmakers, many of whom called Mr. Trump’s utterances unacceptable at best and plainly racist at worst.

Representative Mia Love, a Republican of Utah who is of Haitian descent, demanded an apology from the president, saying his comments were “unkind, divisive, elitist, and fly in the face of our nation’s values.”

“This behavior is unacceptable from the leader of our nation,” Ms. Love went on in an emotional statement that noted her heritage and that said her parents “never took a thing” from the government while achieving the American dream. “The president must apologize to both the American people and the nations he so wantonly maligned.”

“As an American, I am ashamed of the president,” said Representative Luis V. Gutiérrez, Democrat of Illinois. “His comments are disappointing, unbelievable, but not surprising.” He added, we can now “say with 100 percent confidence that the president is a racist who does not share the values enshrined in our Constitution or Declaration of Independence.”

The reactions were extraordinary bipartisan rebukes to a sitting president, but they only fanned what has been a long-simmering debate over Mr. Trump’s views and talk on race.

https://www.nytimes.com/2018/01/11/us/politics/trump-shithole-countries.html
Re: Trump Alarms Lawmakers With Disparaging Words For Haiti And Africa by calliope(f): 6:56pm On Jan 12, 2018
Donald Trump is right after all. Africa is a "stinky shyte hole". Look at the bad roads, unsteady power supply, corruption, poor education and health systems, high infant mortality rate, child marriage, extreme religious bigotry and hypocrisy, autocratic leadership, discrimination and stigmatization of LGBT+ community/kids, APC & PDP power tussle in Nigeria which is also present in other countries and their political history, subjugation and tribalism, favoritism and nepotism, xenophobic and homophobic killings, and blind religiosity born out of our gullibility.
Re: Trump Alarms Lawmakers With Disparaging Words For Haiti And Africa by MIKOLOWISKA: 7:55pm On Jan 12, 2018
RealJaneDoe:
“We must recognize the full human equality of all of our people before God, before the law, and in the councils of government. We must do this, not because it is economically advantageous, although it is; not because of the laws of God command it, although they do; not because people in other lands wish it so. We must do it for the single and fundamental reason that it is the right thing to do.” - Robert F. Kennedy, June 6, 1966
“Why are we having all these people from shithole countries come here?” - President Donald Trump, January 11, 2018
Also trump
If ivanka wasn't my daughter I'd fuckkkk her

Still trump

Grab em by the pussssy


This racist misogynist narcissistic retarded dotard should just STFU
freedom of speech
Why don't you block your ears
Re: Trump Alarms Lawmakers With Disparaging Words For Haiti And Africa by MIKOLOWISKA: 7:56pm On Jan 12, 2018
Rextayne:
This corn head bastard. he's a disgrace to america and not worthy to be a president!
but he is president.
Re: Trump Alarms Lawmakers With Disparaging Words For Haiti And Africa by MIKOLOWISKA: 7:56pm On Jan 12, 2018
Dlee1:
Corruption and negligence will not allow us to develop our nation. I wish the western world could ban our politicians from residing in their country. Africa is a shithole. I wonder when the masses will come to their senses and fight against our corrupt politicians.
when we suffer properly
Re: Trump Alarms Lawmakers With Disparaging Words For Haiti And Africa by MIKOLOWISKA: 7:57pm On Jan 12, 2018
WinningSun:
hope he remembers that he is from an immigrant descendants. he is everything of a bigot. a male chauvanist, and bloody racist. egomaniac.
because him no want undesirables?
Re: Trump Alarms Lawmakers With Disparaging Words For Haiti And Africa by MIKOLOWISKA: 7:59pm On Jan 12, 2018
Luukasz:
And some Africans keep supporting this white folks the fact is they see Africans as sh!t. Africans are nothing to them thats why I do SMH when I see our people making a fuss about the white folk who only see them as worthless
worthless Africans are worthless to them. They take your doctors nurses and scientists.
Cos those are worth something
Re: Trump Alarms Lawmakers With Disparaging Words For Haiti And Africa by MIKOLOWISKA: 8:01pm On Jan 12, 2018
otswag:
Hehe. There's nothing he says or does now that people didn't know about him long before he won the presidency so should this surprise you all. Anyway, I now see the USA as a political experiment. I'm keenly interested in how they would fare after this term of trumps presidency. We panic that his decisions are irrational,however,if you take China as an example,you will realise that sometimes, you need to take drastic measures to make a real change if you are not happy with the status quo. Who knows, maybe these extreme measures would lead to something positive for the USA at the end. I seriously doubt this though cause it seems more like he has been in a phase of self destruction since he took office and he's taking the USA down with him. Time will tell
what has he destroyed. NYSE at record highs,jobs created
Re: Trump Alarms Lawmakers With Disparaging Words For Haiti And Africa by MIKOLOWISKA: 8:02pm On Jan 12, 2018
Luukasz:
And what have you done to revolutionize and revamp the shithole?
what does saying the truth have to do with revamping. Shebi na you e de pain
Re: Trump Alarms Lawmakers With Disparaging Words For Haiti And Africa by MIKOLOWISKA: 8:03pm On Jan 12, 2018
Guestlander:


I'm sure you are one of the people who held banners to celebrate his election in the SE. Trump can do no wrong even though he doesn't give a damn about people like you.
what wrong has he done
Re: Trump Alarms Lawmakers With Disparaging Words For Haiti And Africa by MIKOLOWISKA: 8:04pm On Jan 12, 2018
Luukasz:
And what have you as an individual done to address that aint biased here but you'll saying Nigeria is a sh!thole tell me what impact you've had to progress the nation.
Apparently all of youre just inferior to the whites
are you not inferior to the whites
Re: Trump Alarms Lawmakers With Disparaging Words For Haiti And Africa by MIKOLOWISKA: 8:06pm On Jan 12, 2018
AFONJAPIG:
then he will see me again in America grin grin grin
wetin happen
You no fit repair Biafra again ni
Re: Trump Alarms Lawmakers With Disparaging Words For Haiti And Africa by MIKOLOWISKA: 8:09pm On Jan 12, 2018
mansakhalifa:
Haiti: France and America ruined that country. Go read about its foundation. They couldn't let some n!ggers run a country. And now,Trump could bring himself to say this?! As for Nigeria,my country and the rest,there is nothing for me to say. We have a choice: get it right and prove Trump wrong or keep getting this barrage of insults from that donkey. Not with this sort of leaders,I fear. Lastly,Trump should not forget that America owes alot of its history to immigrants. America itself WAS built by immigrants who had to flee war,hunger,poverty,economic deprivation,religious and political persecution in their countries. A case in point: the Puritans who came to the new world in the early days of the 17th century.
are France still there
Egypt and Germany didn't let Jews run a country too
Stop being lazy
He has nothing against immigrants
It's illegals uneducated and lazy ones he has problem with
Re: Trump Alarms Lawmakers With Disparaging Words For Haiti And Africa by MIKOLOWISKA: 8:10pm On Jan 12, 2018
Lucasbalo:
Gbam. It's called Stockholm Syndrome which means people loving their oppressors. How would any sane being loved the idiotic 71 year old demented racist who sees nothing Good in people of color except white folks. What a shame people on nairaland are supporting the worthless racist while Americans are calling him out everyday.
which Americans are calling him out. Shey because his supporters keep quiet till election day? Not by noise making.
Re: Trump Alarms Lawmakers With Disparaging Words For Haiti And Africa by MIKOLOWISKA: 8:12pm On Jan 12, 2018
Mac2016:
I am far disappointed in some comments here than Trump's. Africans accepting their homelands as a shit hole.. Even when America was at the height of their uncivilized reins and chaos they never saw their homeland as a shit hole. Foolish Nigerians... Smh
what did they have to compare it with. It has always been superior and when it wasn't they changed to compete. What do you do? Beat chest claiming all is well. Who is the mumu
Re: Trump Alarms Lawmakers With Disparaging Words For Haiti And Africa by MIKOLOWISKA: 8:14pm On Jan 12, 2018
Meti99:
How does that pain you compared to the ridicule this Fulani Bull-hari has subjected the Christians in this nation to??
what did buhari subject Christians to? Pls enlighten us
Re: Trump Alarms Lawmakers With Disparaging Words For Haiti And Africa by MIKOLOWISKA: 8:16pm On Jan 12, 2018
VIPERVENOM:
This is the same man that called The people of the state of Alabama bunch of loosers. The same man thar threw toilet paper at hurricane victims, he slut-shammed a senator, he called the white house dump. He constantly insults africans & yet some ppl here still support him. Wait until he insults ur family na.
number 1 accepting the truth is not
support

Number 2 his ppl voted for him. It's a democracy not goodocracy
Re: Trump Alarms Lawmakers With Disparaging Words For Haiti And Africa by Dsov2016: 8:17pm On Jan 12, 2018
Blade50002:


Dsov I love our country EXTREMELY! But what he said is the truth. Nigeria is a fucking shit hole! We must make our leaders stand up or we must become the new leaders and make the change. Nigerian politicians have robbed at least 5 generations to come of the opportunity for a good life. Let's see if we can salvage future for those after us. I live in the US and here a lot of Nigerians are living much better than the whites. I have promised myself that I will follow the example of Innoson motors and a lot of strong entrepreneurs in Ogun State. My resources will be spent developing profitable businesses which create jobs in my state and my first business will be in my village. Northern, Southern, Eastern and Western Nigerians must begin to reason like that. We also need new cities. When one man builds in one area that is good others follow. We should also go for planned residential and industrial infrastructural development. We can do it together.


of course. what i am saying is if u denigrate/criticise then u should proffer a solution. as the saying goes if u are not part of the solution u re part of the problem. look at Sudan just because of the increase in bread price u could see the protest or in Tunisia where protest is going ng on due to austerity measures. yet here in Nigeria if I decide to hold an anti corruption protest most of my fellow protesters would have been swayed by cash(it happened during protests in Edo state about BEDC).
I remember watching an Indian film where unemployed engineering graduates got together and floated an engineering company which developed public works and made profits with it . I know its a film but just for a second imagine if the engineering graduates in Nigeria band together and do this not just them but computer science or the lawyers and others just imagine, the key to unlocking this our great countries destiny is in we - the youths hand if we just get up and stop our whining. You and other look at this country as a shithole but I and like minded individuals look at it and see a great empire a land filled with milk and honey with a great and strong people a land with the capability to become an ever near utopia or as close as one can get to such in this mortal realm. We just need to dig into that well of courage. Groups like SERAP and BUDgit have lit the path but what do we all do with this knowledge they provide for us - NOTHING. If other Nigerians can go a step further for instance budgit tracks the disparity input budget but we go farther and as well intentioned Nigerians crackdown where they hid this money then others take the step to retrieve it. At the long run the leaders will realise it is not worth the stigma to steal what would soon be recovered and that they would not enjoy it. we each have a responsibility not just to ourselves but future generations yet unborn to forge this country into a great nation so. that posterity would note us as having tried our best
Re: Trump Alarms Lawmakers With Disparaging Words For Haiti And Africa by MIKOLOWISKA: 8:18pm On Jan 12, 2018
VIPERVENOM:
This is the same man that called The people of the state of Alabama bunch of loosers. The same man thar threw toilet paper at hurricane victims, he slut-shammed a senator, he called the white house dump. He constantly insults africans & yet some ppl here still support him. Wait until he insults ur family na.
are Alabama not losers
Is the senator not a slut
And the white house not a dump
Why do Africans do things that invite insults
Re: Trump Alarms Lawmakers With Disparaging Words For Haiti And Africa by MIKOLOWISKA: 8:19pm On Jan 12, 2018
Adebowale89:
I watched one interview yesterday. a young man was interviewing one old man asking if the increase in PMS would bring solution to shortage of fuel scarcity. the man said what has the past increase done to solve fuel scarcity


he said we youth ain't ready, if you youths are ready, you won't go and bring an old man that suppose to be resting in his village to come and rule over you and you expect him to perform


that was really a big slap on Nigeria youths, we need to get it right this time, 2019 is at the corner, do the politics and don't just talk the politics


average Nigerian youths belong to no party with party recognise card, na just on keyboard they see theirselves as party members




do the politics, that's how to reduce this godfatherism, kingmaker nonsense and eradicate the influence of this elites politicians in order to embrace the development of Nigeria
only if they will listen
Re: Trump Alarms Lawmakers With Disparaging Words For Haiti And Africa by MIKOLOWISKA: 8:22pm On Jan 12, 2018
planetx:
He was not from Kenya but a native born from Hawaii. And to think some NLanders were defending Trump the last time he made disparaging remarks saying it was a ploy by CNN to discredit him shows they dont know the racial history of Trump.

This was a man who lead a campaign to unjustly lock up five black young men who were falsely accused of raping a white woman in a case know as the New York "central park five". A man that was fined by the government several times for refusing to rent his apartments in New York to blacks and minorities. Not that I disagree with his assertion of Africa and Haiti being shitholes.
you want him to rent to 5 black ppl so that the other 500 will leave ba .why don't they build their own communities instead of running to white man own to turn it into shithole Abi?
Re: Trump Alarms Lawmakers With Disparaging Words For Haiti And Africa by MIKOLOWISKA: 8:23pm On Jan 12, 2018
Lucasbalo:
If that bigoted piece of a*s wipe send a drone to wipe out their villages and kill off their whole family, the Braindead fooools will still hail him as the greatest man after Jesus Christ. That's how you know people with charred brains .
why not. Since your own have refused to do something about herdsmen, Boko and militants
Re: Trump Alarms Lawmakers With Disparaging Words For Haiti And Africa by MIKOLOWISKA: 8:26pm On Jan 12, 2018
Chemist009:
It's just a pity ..... almost moved to tears���. When will our predicament as a people end? Must we forever out of cowardice watch generations upon generations of our lineage perish because of senseless,wicked,and devilish imbeciles who call themselves our leaders? All I can do now is weep,but deep down
I still feel maybe,just maybe there is light at d end of this labyrinth tunnel afterall!
that's the reward of cowardice and laziness.
Who your tears epp
Re: Trump Alarms Lawmakers With Disparaging Words For Haiti And Africa by MIKOLOWISKA: 8:31pm On Jan 12, 2018
c733d:
Trump is right,African countries are shitholes. Their governments won't improve power,health,transport and education systems. Their people run to America for a better life.... Who the fucck built America? Thieving leaders?
Donald Trump should send all illegal residents home.
govt are not supposed to provide power health transport or education, that's private sectors job
And robber barons did actually build America not politicians

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