felixomor:


Foooool

But you know he was not totally wrong.
Hope you know it is a sin to call a human a fool(Matthew 5:22) .
You don't speak like a brethen with the fruit of God. So swift to curse.

felixomor:


Bye
Fooool

And you say you are a Christian, calling another person a FOOL.

This is further proof that your religion is DEAD, USELESS and void of genuine POWER.

lloyds:
Freeze does not understand the Bible.

After finishing having sex with his girl friend, and drinking he will come to the internet writing and spewing rubbish.

He should go and sit down.

He may not be right with his doctrines even though he has some points.
BUT HE'S GOT MORE COURAGE AND BOLDNESS THAN YOU DREAM OF... #Fact

felixomor:

Tithe already existed before Deuteronomy
Before the law, tithe already existed

Go and study.
Stop following Freeze

Even if Freeze is wrong it doesn't authenticate that some of our pastors are right.... #simpleLogic

spongeisback:

Wow god's grace is really sufficient for us all yeah? So those kids in the orphanage some as young as one have done nothing to deserve "god's grace"? No wonder most christians lack empathy. They feel the difference between their children and a child in an orphanage (being molested yes those kids are raped and dehumanized more often than you think) Is god's grace, 10 people die in a car accident and one person survive wow god is great. Keep making us see how shallow and out of touch you religious folks are.

If you judge Christianity because of the misunderstanding of some so-called followers(or Men of God) then you are not serious. Know christ today, find the right Christian minds. Farewell.

FELLOW NIGERIANS, FIRST LET ME SAY WE SHOULD ALWAYS USE MEDIUMS LIKE THIS TO RAISE INSIGHTFUL POINTS AND NOT TO INSULT OR CURSE OURSELVES. DADDY FREEZE HAS HIS POINTS MADE, LET US RESEARCH AND GET THE RIGHT KNOWLEDGE ABOUT SUCH ISSUE, PLS. WELL, LET ME USE THIS MEDIUM TO ASK FOR A FAVOR/HELP FROM ANYONE WHO MAY WANT TO SAVE A BROTHER IN SERIOUS NEED, RIGHT NOW. "ME AND MY FAMILY COULD BE THROWN OUT OF OUR APARTMENT IF I DON'T MEET UP WITH MY RENT DUES BY THE END OF THIS MONTH, JANUARY. I AM A HARD WORKING ELECTRICAL ENGINEER, I CAN DO DOMESTIC AND INDUSTIAL WIRING, SOLAR, INTERTERS, CUSTOMIZED SOUND INSTALLATIONS AND A FEW MORE THINGS, AND MY WIFE IS ONLY PERFECTING HER FASHION SKILLS NOW, BUT MONEY HAD BEEN HAD TO COME OUR WAYS FOR SOME TIME NOW. PLS HELP US TO RENEW OUR RENT IF YOU CAN. I DON'T MIND IF IT WILL BE 'LENDED TO ME', I WILL WORK TO PAY YOU BACK, PLS. CONTACT ME ON: (08061254619, CLEMENT). PLS, DO NOT MAKE FUN OF ME, I AM JUST IN DARE NEED. MAY GOD BLESS YOU!!

stanliwise:
If you judge Christianity because of the misunderstanding of some so-called followers(or Men of God) then you are not serious. Know christ today, find the right Christian minds. Farewell.

Christian with RIGHT MINDS ?? I think there are more Christians OUT OF THEIR MINDS that those in THEIR RIGHT MIND.

As that chap said, you guys lack EMPATHY, very obvious for ALL to see!

lonelydora:
If Jesus was here on earth, he would have driven Bentley and have private jet. Jesus used a colt no one has ever driven on...that shows he wants the best for himself.

Many people argue that Abraham paid tithe once to Melchezedek. Remember Abraham paid tithe of 5 nations...Just imagine someone bringing tithe of America, Russia, China, Germany, and France or UK to you, will you allow him pay again? And moreover, he met Melchezedek once in his journey


See my brother, i don't subscribe to tithe cards...reason i don't pay tithe in any church that use cards. i also prefer to pay tithe in any church the pastor uses Bentley and PJ than one the Pastor uses keke or trek.


The earlier we stop using the World's system to apply in the Kingdom's system...the better for us.

One day i will teach Freeze what he does not know in the bible. I too busy to reply him for now.


You don't pay tithe...no wahala, but allow us to continue to pay..as long as it is working for me.

av u ever asked yourself y he didn't ride a horse? �

frosbel2:


Christian with RIGHT MINDS ?? I think there are more Christians OUT OF THEIR MINDS that those in THEIR RIGHT MIND.

As that chap said, you guys lack EMPATHY, very obvious for ALL to see!

speak specifically, who are you guys.. There are only few genuine Christians left.

Built2last:
My pastor has spoken about tight in the last one week more than any other thing.
I just look at the faces of people. An invited pastor preached on it for one hour.

The pastor was not able to establish that Jesus nor any of His disciples collected tithe. Bible was clear that it was contribution the early church made to expand.

Those against tithe says it's one of the laws of the old testament but Abraham and Jacob paid tithe in faith over 400years before God made it a law through Moses. The new testament believer was urged to live by faith to enjoy Abraham's blessings on earth. We live by faith. Pay your tithe if you have and appreciate God for His faithfulness and leave the judgement of mismanagement to be of God. Remember the poor, give and support the poor.

Here is my opinion. Tithe is necessary but should not be mandatory like some will distribute tithe cards and monitor tithers.

I pay my tithe and will pay till I die. reason is simple. I am one of the few privileged Nigerians that has enough to do my basic needs and affect few lives around me. I have a few orphanage homes me and my family support often. I take my kids while we visit those homes to let them know that whatever they have is a Privilege and gift from God. The difference between them and the kids of those orphanage homes is the grace of God as no kid chose his parents before showing up on earth. I conveniently pay my tithe to help propagate the gospel. I don't want to show up in church and here my pastor is not around because he was looking for food for his family or searching for school fees for his kids. A pastor should concentrate and minister the word. Reason God refused the Levites to work in Israel till this day for those who practice mosaic law and Judaism. In my opinion, the 1k dropped in the offering basket won't do the do job enough.

What is my gross like many others with the pastors in Nigeria

Pastors frighten members with devourers if they dont pay tithe. They also tell you that the windows of heaven will not be opened to you if you don't pay tithe. It's a lie. Jesus is God's ultimate gift to humanity. In him is everything. When the Jesus died and that Curtain tore from bottom to top. It gave us access to the father for all things. There is no curse for not paying tithe.

Mission work and evangelism is dieing in Nigeria and the church is not paying attention to that enough.

The message of salvation, faith justice and mercy which Christ preached has been replaced with prosperity, fame and self gratification.

Pastors have gone mundane and flash your tithe in your very face with reckless abandon.

If Jesus or Paul the apostle managed a church in 21st century. They won't have Bentley, Ferrari, Lamborghini and several SUVs parked in their garage when members are hungry or many parts of the world have not heard the gospel.

A large population of church members in Nigeria are poor. The church is not paying enough attention to these poor people. The money spent in buying one Bentley will buy 3buses that will take care of people who may never have a car. The poor will always be among us Jesus said.

Pastors have become demigods and inaccessible. So much security around them that you dare not go close.

You build schools and your church members can't afford it. Jesus won't do that.

You can't differentiate when a pastor is moving from when politician is moving.

Missionaries around Nigeria are suffering and struggling to pay their children school fees while pastors leave large in luxury.

Their children school abroad ,they build schools here and members can't afford it.


The free the sheeple Movement is gaining ground because there is no financial accountability in many Churches.


If people can tell the good course their money is used for, we will not have people like Freeze questioning their actions.


Share your experience since the movement started

Tithe is food n not money.

No one in the bible paid tithe with their money.

Tithe Tithe paid once in 3 year's.

Malachi 3 vs 8 - 10 is for pastors who don't pay their tithe.

The whole book of Malachi is warning to priests...

Tithe paid to widows, levites, orphans, fatherless, foreigners who have no land, Etc. Deuteronomy 26 vs 12 n Deuteronomy 14 vs 28.

I know ur fake pastor didn't show u the above scripture during their marathon tithe lesson .

I have been reading the comments here, most tithe defenders are always quick to insult. Why??

If you follow all the ways of the spirit, you will never be quick to insult. Instead reply with scriptures. Remember in Matthew 4, Satan quoted scriptures to tempt Jesus and Jesus replied same.

As a Christian that worships God in spirit and in truth, you should correct or rebuke with the Word of God. Remember 2 Timothy 3:16-17.

felixomor:


Keep shut
Foooool

Your first epistle was perfect. But the insults that have followed aren't good at all, especially using the word 'fool'. I hope you know what our LORD JESUS says about calling someone a fool.

You have already given an excellent response in your first comment. Leave the mockers and doubters to perish if they so wish to. Shalom!

felixomor:
How do you know that Jesus wont have driven Bentley or any of those cars?
See,
If you want to ask for financial accountability, thats a different topic.

Dont confuse things up. Bentley, Ferrari etc was not made for only demons to drive.

If you start preaching against people paying tithe because you saw preacher riding in those cars, you are only preaching according to strife from the flesh
Thats what Freeze is doing

Freeze is like Judas who only remembered the poor when perfume worth thousands of dollars was poured on Jesus feet.
Meanwhile he was a thief in secret.

Many people will finish preaching against tithe, claiming poor people are everywhere yet go home and spend ten times in club house and purchase internet bundle.
Freeze falls into this category.

These same people want to go to the same heaven that the early Christians who sold 100% of their belongings went to.

There is God.
Stop preaching out of fleshly strife.

Jesus would not have a Bentley or Ferrari as he rightly Said.
During the time of our Lord Jesus Christ, one can say there were no private jets or luxury cars. However, Monarchs, Royals, Warriors and their likes had one Ostentatious way of getting by. They used CHARIOTS of Royal(special) Horses with CARTS. These are widely documented in the Bible and other Religious and Historic books. Worthy of note is the fact that Christ NEVER owned a horse not to talk of Chariot of them nor royal Carts. Christ Trekked, entered canoes,ferries. He was ordinary

He could have tasked/Taxed his followers to acquire one if he thought it needful. Remember he is supposed to be our Role model.
Suffice it to say that He knew that this day will come when people like you will support Mundane and materialistic Jesus wannabes Pastors like we have today. During his triumphant entry into Jerusalem which would have been the best occasion to flaunt sophistication and Pride, He chose to BORROW a COLT (Not even a Horse) for a temporary humble ride!

Yet the people sang Hossana!

A pastor started preaching about first fruit or first month (whatever they call it cos I don't pay attention to such bs) in an MFM church in Los Angeles. I guess he forgot that those Nigerians have monthly bills to pay. The church immediately got rowdy. Hopefully he learned his lesson.

Lesson: Take that tithe scam to Nigeria because the place can guarantee an unlimited supply of morons.

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So it has gotten to the stage where u now compare JESUS CHRIST and todays preachers,smh for all of you,todays preachers cant even be compared to the great apostle paul,u think CHRIST had the time for mundane materialism, be very careful of what u write,CHRIST is incomparable with many of these boasters of today so never ever try it again,for ur edification,go and read the book of matt 11 from verse one to the end.

felixomor:

Tithe already existed before Deuteronomy
Before the law, tithe already existed

Go and study.
Stop following Freeze

oga or madam would you
shaaraap dare!!!
what do you think you know.
abraham and co paid tithes to God not in coins buh proceed from the land God helped them fight to claim...


show me any whr in the bible workers and slaves paid tithe, tithe wher paid by mostly by farmers n shepherds using the land given to them by God.

now we have Jesus,who have paid for our tithe ones and for all time..

the only way to Jesus is through love,and the only way to God is through Jesus christ.

go and study ur bible n stop doing copy and paste on what your pastor told you

felixomor:

Oga, grace is not a modification of law
Grace is a fulfillment of the law
In all honesty, try to start studying the bible for yourself

Abraham tithed once because he came across Melchizedek once in his pilgrimage.
Melchizedek priesthood was a very rare one
And hard to come by

Today Christ is our Melchizedek (Psalm 110:4)
If you pay tithe to the body of Christ wether once, monthly, yearly,
God will not be angry
We now have the body of Christ as Melchizedek continuously with us.
So there is no excuse.

If you feel your local church isnt part of the body of Christ, then that's a different topic.
Look for a bible believing church

Try and understand the difference between tithe and tax, Abraham did not pay tithe, but tax to the King Melchizedek of Salem (who doubles as a priest) from the spoils of war.
He didn't give a tenth from his own properties, he gave a tenth of the items he recovered from war after going to save his Kinsman - Lot. If Lot had not been taken, Abraham wouldn't have gone to war and wouldn't have paid the tax. The remaining 90% he also gave out to the men who followed him to war and the rest to the King of Sodom. Abraham didn't take anything home from the war. So how do you explain that in the context of tithing? You also need to STUDY and understand the Bible.

PrecisionFx:



Tithe is food n not money.

No one in the bible paid tithe with their money.

Tithe Tithe paid once in 3 year's.



Tithe paid to widows, levites, orphans, fatherless, foreigners who have no land, Etc.

I know ur fake pastor didn't show u the above scripture during their marathon tithe lesson .

What grieves me most is that you folks weeping over tithes are the economic survivors who either have never paid tithes or are very haphazard in doing so. From time immemorial, the church has always been financed by a few rich while it lends help to the mass poor. Don't you wonder why even while a large number of you are boycotting tithe payment, the church isn't shrinking. A few rich folks are doling out the cash that a million of your kind cannot put together in a hundred years.

Just continue crying over tithes while your mates keeping zooming past you. Someday you would look yourself in the mirror and see an old man who made nothing meaningful out of his life all because he saw the church and pastors as his problems.

Wake up and go make a meaning of your life.

Tithe has come to stay till our LORD JESUS returns for His holy saints.

mastermaestro:



What grieves me most is that you folks weeping over tithes are the economic survivors who either have never paid tithes or are very haphazard in doing so. From time immemorial, the church has always been financed by a few rich while it lends help to the mass poor. Don't you wonder why even while a large number of you are boycotting tithe payment, the church isn't shrinking. A few rich folks are doling out the cash that a million of your kind cannot put together in a hundred years.

Just continue crying over tithes while your mates keeping zooming past you. Someday you would look yourself in the mirror and see an old man who made nothing meaningful out of his life all because he saw the church and pastors as his problems.

Wake up and go make a meaning of your life.

Tithe has come to stay till our LORD JESUS returns for His holy saints.

Read again....

felixomor:

Oga, grace is not a modification of law
Grace is a fulfillment of the law
In all honesty, try to start studying the bible for yourself

Abraham tithed once because he came across Melchizedek once in his pilgrimage.
Melchizedek priesthood was a very rare one
And hard to come by

Today Christ is our Melchizedek (Psalm 110:4)
If you pay tithe to the body of Christ wether once, monthly, yearly,
God will not be angry
We now have the body of Christ as Melchizedek continuously with us.
So there is no excuse.

If you feel your local church isnt part of the body of Christ, then that's a different topic.
Look for a bible believing church

Wait , Did Abraham start paying tithe at what period of his life and what caused him to pay the tithe

TribesNG:

And the book of Malachi 3:10 Came after Deuteronomy

I've stopped arguing over these issues.

Religion is based on belief, so you are free to think as you like and act as you are directed.

spongeisback:

Wow god's grace is really sufficient for us all yeah? So those kids in the orphanage some as young as one have done nothing to deserve "god's grace"? No wonder most christians lack empathy. They feel the difference between their children and a child in an orphanage (being molested yes those kids are raped and dehumanized more often than you think) Is god's grace, 10 people die in a car accident and one person survive wow god is great. Keep making us see how shallow and out of touch you religious folks are.

i have always argued with this your point,But nobody has given a solid counter argument,blessings upon you for this

felixomor:

Tithe already existed before Deuteronomy
Before the law, tithe already existed

Go and study.
Stop following Freeze

You do realize the first tithe was some fruits and an animal right? So why the emphasis on currency?

mastermaestro:



What grieves me most is that you folks weeping over tithes are the economic survivors who either have never paid tithes or are very haphazard in doing so. From time immemorial, the church has always been financed by a few rich while it lends help to the mass poor. Don't you wonder why even while a large number of you are boycotting tithe payment, the church isn't shrinking. A few rich folks are doling out the cash that a million of your kind cannot put together in a hundred years.

Just continue crying over tithes while your mates keeping zooming past you. Someday you would look yourself in the mirror and see an old man who made nothing meaningful out of his life all because he saw the church and pastors as his problems.

Wake up and go make a meaning of your life.

Tithe has come to stay till our LORD JESUS returns for His holy saints.

How many people are zooming in Nigeria?

felixomor:
How do you know that Jesus wont have driven Bentley or any of those cars?
See,
If you want to ask for financial accountability, thats a different topic.

Dont confuse things up. Bentley, Ferrari etc was not made for only demons to drive.

If you start preaching against people paying tithe because you saw preacher riding in those cars, you are only preaching according to strife from the flesh
Thats what Freeze is doing

Freeze is like Judas who only remembered the poor when perfume worth thousands of dollars was poured on Jesus feet.
Meanwhile he was a thief in secret.

Many people will finish preaching against tithe, claiming poor people are everywhere yet go home and spend ten times in club house and purchase internet bundle.
Freeze falls into this category.

These same people want to go to the same heaven that the early Christians who sold 100% of their belongings went to.

There is God.
Stop preaching out of fleshly strife.

No wonder you failed Logic101

felixomor:

You dont have to sound like me and become foolish in the process.
Be yourself

Are you trying to confirm that you are foolish and sounding like an idiot? Owning up to your foolishness means you are close to recovery

felixomor:


The above you have said
Doesn't change the fact that tithing existed before the law. Simple

You through cannot say it existed....Only Abraham tithe as a sign of worship to God and was not a regular practice nor was it commanded or obligatory of him. Jacob and his whole generation never tithe....We did not hear anything about tithing also during the Generation of Isaac.

It definitely, was not a practice required of pre-old testament believers and anyone referencing the incidence with Abraham as a poly to make it a requirement for post-old testament believers does not have any scriptural bases.

The tithing that Abraham did is akin to thanksgiving in today's church settings...The tithing that Pastors are demanding has no resemblance to the tithing that Abraham did, but copied the obligation of the tithing of the laws, while neglecting to follow through on how the law actually stated that tithing should be carried out.

felixomor:


Keep shut
Foooool

Omorowou, you need to calm down. Not everything is about money, you need to focus on your ministry first. God will provide for you family if you are doing his work.

U all should go and read Hebrews 7:5-19

[quote author=lonelydora post=64428867]

The earlier we stop using the World's system to apply in the Kingdom's system...the better for us.

One day i will teach Freeze what he does not know in the bible. I too busy to reply him for now.

@lonelydora - i must honestly confess that u are a very matured Christian, seriously speaking. this post of urs made a lot of sense.

u just said the problem of so many "Christians".

and as for Freeze, i will beg u to leave him to wallow in his satanic ignorance. there's no point beating a dead horse.

if Freeze was taken seriously, Pastor Adeboye, Pastor Chris, Bishop Oyedepo & other Men of GOD who knows their GOD would've replied him. their silence over Freeze, his social media movement & insults only tells u the level they see & place Freeze.

i am beginning to feel that Freeze will repent someday & be mightily used by GOD just like Apostle Paul.

felixomor:
How do you know that Jesus wont have driven Bentley or any of those cars?
See,
If you want to ask for financial accountability, thats a different topic.

Dont confuse things up. Bentley, Ferrari etc was not made for only demons to drive.

If you start preaching against people paying tithe because you saw preacher riding in those cars, you are only preaching according to strife from the flesh
Thats what Freeze is doing

Freeze is like Judas who only remembered the poor when perfume worth thousands of dollars was poured on Jesus feet.
Meanwhile he was a thief in secret.

Many people will finish preaching against tithe, claiming poor people are everywhere yet go home and spend ten times in club house and purchase internet bundle.
Freeze falls into this category.

These same people want to go to the same heaven that the early Christians who sold 100% of their belongings went to.

There is God.
Stop preaching out of fleshly strife.

On the bolded, the Bible is clear. Test all spirits...dont let them sweet talk you with what looks like the truth, tastes sweet but is laced with the poison of your destruction. Even satan appears as an angel of light! Wether its Freeze, or your pastor, make sure you test spirits. Of course, if you are lackadaisical in your approach to faith, then this advice is useless to you anyhow.

felixomor:
How do you know that Jesus wont have driven Bentley or any of those cars?

There were horse-drawn chariots, which were equivalent of Bentley etc, since the Book of Genesis.
Jesus Christ left them and opted for a donkey.
There is also no record of the 12 Apostles and Paul living in luxury. Rather they worked hard to bless the congregation.
If you don’t desist in blasphemy, your end will be worse than that of Lucifer.
If you don’t desist. Will you desist