StevieGee27:


She won’t go anywhere because she’s dead. Heaven or Earth don’t exist

Xbee007:
True life story.
Just last week, a young woman, with children and a husband, committed suicide in Iyana Iba Lagos. She lived in her home built by her husband. She apparently died after drinking Sniper.
Her story:
Until her death, she wakes up every morning to preach the words of God to people. With a very loud voice, she wakes people up with her morning jingles. Some are okay with it while others feel early morning preachers constitute nuisance to the society. I think they constitute nuisance to the society, because they wake you with their noises at odd hours. I used "they" because she isn't the only one. Some of them have been barred from our area, in fact by fellow Christians.

Recently, she was afflicted by an eye problem. She couldn't see for quite sometime. However, lately there have been tremendous improvement in her eye sight, until she ended her life by drinking sniper.

The day she committed suicide:
Many people saw her in the morning. In fact, a friend said they both conversed on the day of the sad incident. People got to know something was wrong when their dog wouldn't stop vigorously barking. Something very unusual. Her little daughter later checked on her and told neighbours her mother was very ill, so they rushed inside. The horror that laid before them was unfathomable.
She laid there barely alive, heavily bleeding from almost every holes in her body. Laying on her hand is an empty bottle of sniper.
She gave up the ghost before reaching the hospital. Sad!

A shocking thing happened.
Just hours after her death, her fellow Christians were already discussing the hell fire she would burn in. NOT DAYS O, JUST FEW HOURS LATER.
They were clearly sad that she "started well" but end "disastrously". I felt sick to my stomach!
How can human being be so cruel to their fellow human? How will the children of the deceased feel if they were to hear this discussions?

So, I am asking, am I right to think they are wrong to speak ill of their fellow Christians or truly she would burn in the same hell as Shekau just because she committed suicide?

QueenBeeHive:
I've been thinking of doing it.
But how will i suffer on earth and go suffer in hell too

Jesse01:
dat so sad now d problem is y didn't her God help her,since he is loving and caring?it's obvious d lady was frustrated and she thinks death is d only solution,sadly she will burn in hell because d Christian God did not support suicide, dat such a pity.

hopefulLandlord:

technically, Its impossible to murder oneself

Xbee007:

So she will also burn in hell eternally like the likes of Adolf Hitler, Shekau and other mass murders? Is that justice.
Note, she didn't kill herself, it was depression (a mental illness) that made her do what she did.

Zither:


but it is possible to kill oneself, right? No murderer or killer shall inherit eternal life.

hopefulLandlord:


then suicide would've been written as an unforgivable sin in your holy book but its not

Zither:


1 Corinthians 3:17 - If any man destroys the temple of God, God will destroy him, for the temple of God is holy, and that is what you are.

There you have it.....

Tosinex:
the same place murderers will end, because she is a murderer by killing her self. Anyone that commit suicide is a murderer, let's leave all judgements to God who knows and understands all things. It's true she's depressed but the scripture says in all things Give thanks, don't let the devil get a foothold in your life by putting depression on you. Depression is from the devil no matter what you are going through rejoice and Give Thanks, for the Apostles and the pioneers of faith even the martyrs suffered much worst things and yet didn't terminate their own life but rest in the hope of glory to come which they obtain through faith, Amen.

Seun:
It's a pity that religion does not help people when they need it most. Fortunately, she won't burn in hell, because hell is an imaginary place.

Xbee007:

I hope her children grow up to understand that someday.

StevieGee27:


She won’t go anywhere because she’s dead. Heaven or Earth don’t exist

Xbee007:
True life story.
Just last week, a young woman, with children and a husband, committed suicide in Iyana Iba Lagos. She lived in her home built by her husband. She apparently died after drinking Sniper.
Her story:
Until her death, she wakes up every morning to preach the words of God to people. With a very loud voice, she wakes people up with her morning jingles. Some are okay with it while others feel early morning preachers constitute nuisance to the society. I think they constitute nuisance to the society, because they wake you with their noises at odd hours. I used "they" because she isn't the only one. Some of them have been barred from our area, in fact by fellow Christians.

Recently, she was afflicted by an eye problem. She couldn't see for quite sometime. However, lately there have been tremendous improvement in her eye sight, until she ended her life by drinking sniper.

The day she committed suicide:
Many people saw her in the morning. In fact, a friend said they both conversed on the day of the sad incident. People got to know something was wrong when their dog wouldn't stop vigorously barking. Something very unusual. Her little daughter later checked on her and told neighbours her mother was very ill, so they rushed inside. The horror that laid before them was unfathomable.
She laid there barely alive, heavily bleeding from almost every holes in her body. Laying on her hand is an empty bottle of sniper.
She gave up the ghost before reaching the hospital. Sad!

A shocking thing happened.
Just hours after her death, her fellow Christians were already discussing the hell fire she would burn in. NOT DAYS O, JUST FEW HOURS LATER.
They were clearly sad that she "started well" but end "disastrously". I felt sick to my stomach!
How can human being be so cruel to their fellow human? How will the children of the deceased feel if they were to hear this discussions?

So, I am asking, am I right to think they are wrong to speak ill of their fellow Christians or truly she would burn in the same hell as Shekau just because she committed suicide?

Lalasticlala, check this out.

nemesis4u:


Want my take ?

If yes will post on technical thread

And what is sniper ?

Xbee007:


OK, go ahead.

nemesis4u:


Tell me what is sniper ?

Seun:
It's a pity that religion does not help people when they need it most. Fortunately, she won't burn in hell, because hell is an imaginary place.

Anas09:

Hahahahahahaha. It's unfortunate that religion does not help people and atheism does abi? why are all atheist depressed and anticipating suicide and actually kill themselves?

Okay, Seun, pls tell me what i will stand to again if i become an atheist.

Seun:
It's a pity that religion does not help people when they need it most. Fortunately, she won't burn in hell, because hell is an imaginary place.

Seun:
It's a pity that religion does not help people when they need it most. Fortunately, she won't burn in hell, because hell is an imaginary place.

Xbee007:

Depression can happen to anyone regardless of your age, sex, skin colour or the god(s) you pray to. That atheist tend to commit suicide, as a result of depression, more than religious folks just goes to show that atheist don't have the psychological and sociological cushion religious folks enjoy in organised religions. It is not rocket science. Support Groups in advance societies can conveniently replace the job of religion in this area.

What will you stand to gain if you abandon religion for reason?
Well, for starters you begin to use more of your brain.
You will be freed from shackle of mental slavery.
You will truly understand that life itself is unfair and it is the duty of every human to make it better for everyone.
You will understand and better accept reality as it is.
Most importantly, you will understand that our destiny is shaped by the choices we make, although reality dictates that somethings are beyond our control but that doesn't mean we shouldn't try.

hopefulLandlord:


You didn't even challenge the stupid claim in that post

He's saying "ALL atheists are depressed and contemplating suicide"

I understand that perhaps the statement is just so ineffably stupid that its okay to pretend its not there

Xbee007:

Depression can happen to anyone regardless of your age, sex, skin colour or the god(s) you pray to.

Xbee007:

That atheist tend to commit suicide, as a result of depression, more than religious folks just goes to show that atheist don't have the psychological and sociological cushion religious folks enjoy in organised religions. It is not rocket science. Support Groups in advance societies can conveniently replace the job of religion in this area.

Xbee007:

What will you stand to gain if you abandon religion for reason?
Well, for starters you begin to use more of your brain.
You will be freed from shackle of mental slavery.

Xbee007:

You will truly understand that life itself is unfair and it is the duty of every human to make it better for everyone.
You will understand and better accept reality as it is.

Xbee007:

Most importantly, you will understand that our destiny is shaped by the choices we make, although reality dictates that some things are beyond our control but that doesn't mean we shouldn't try.

Xbee007:
Nemesis4u, still waiting for your post.

Anas09:
Sir, i am a Christian who believes my life is a Trust to me, so can not do with it however i please. I believe following the instructions of God written in the Bible keeps me safe both here and hereafter. I believe a kingdom awaits me when i'm done here and can only access that Kingdom by meeting up with the criteria of Love, which comes by accepting the Love offered to me by Jesus Christ, without which, i can't be a partaker of that Kingdom, So sir, pls tell me what i stand to loose when i close my eyes in death and discover the much expected Kingdom does not exist. If there's no Hellfire of Heaven, what will i lose?


Well, let me begin by saying, depression can not happen to any Child of God who has the Holy Spirit inside of them and maximizes His blessedness. The reason is because, depression is a spirit and two opposing spirits can not cohabit the same host. The very first thing that happens to believer when the Holy Spirit steps into his/her life is unexplainable Joy and peace. There's no way that experience can be put to words. Jesus knows that the world is full of tribulation and situations that causes discouragement, hence; He said, Come unto me..., He came back as the Spirit the comforter. Every Spiritually sensitive and aware Christian knows that we don't belong here that is why the world hates us. We have a Kingdom and if we feel comfortable here, we'll loose sight of our Kingdom, so we can't be burdened by the things of the world and when we don't have them, we kill ourselves as a result.

But, most Christians also make the mistake of Misdirecting their focus by taking it off God and placing them on men hence, setting themselves up for a great fall. Our Hope comes from God alone.

Some don't know how to pray, they take their Wills to God for approval when they should have asked God what His will for them is. God will never answer or do our will, it's either we do as He Wills or leave yourself vulnerable to the attacks of Satan by discouragement and doubt.


Atheism is now organized in groups and have support groups too. I go to Reddit and see them dropping links to support groups for those contemplating suicide, yet they still kill themselves.

Have you ever heard the word Hope? Hope is what believers in Jesus have. Every Jesus believing Christian has the hoping of living eternally with Jesus at death, why kill myself when i know i will die anyways?
We know that our lives on earth are a Trust and a Test, hence; we live it cautiously knowing we'll hand it over some day and account for how we used it.

Trust me, to you what i just said is Rocket Science becos it just flew above your head.


You mean i don't use my brain now that i'm Christian? How? Do you mean if you and i sat for an examination you'd make better grades than i because you are an atheist and me a Christian? Or if we worked in the same establishment and are given tasks to perform you'd do better then i because you are an atheist? hahahahahaha.
pls don't make me laugh. Do you really believe it when you are told you are smarter than a Christian?

Pls explain to me what you mean by mental slavery.


What is reality? You described the unfairness of Life here as though Life has power of it's own to create situations that are unfavourable. Is life a living force?
What makes life unfair?

Destiny talks about a 'destination', and destination talks about the future and the future talks about targets and Hope. Without a purpose we can not begin to talk about destinations.

What is the destination of an atheist on earth? You believe you are like animal or a flower which is here today but tomorrow, can be gone leaving no memories behind.

If we are just chemicals with no reason to live in the first place, why strive or thrive to be anything at all?

Sir, maybe i shd outline the benefits of my being a Christian to you so that you can tell their negatives or how they are detrimental to me, hence; dissuade me from pursuing the life i'm currently pursuing as a Christian.

What you gave to me as benefits are nothing to go by, as I have never failed an exam before. i'm not boasting here, but i have never sat for any exams and get called back for a resit, never. I have never sat for an interview and was not called to resume work. And, i'm not an atheist.

If you truly believe that you are smarter because you are an atheist, well... Wow.

nemesis4u:


Well I might be driven to suicide if I make the mistake of posting it here.

But no hell for me , becz I get the virgins

I will post it later, it's my own theory it will blow u away

First answer this

where is the abode of God or whatever ?

And what is the thing which makes all impossible possible ?

Hint : Both answers r interrelated

Anas09:
Sir, i am a Christian who believes my life is a Trust to me, so can not do with it however i please. I believe following the instructions of God written in the Bible keeps me safe both here and hereafter. I believe a kingdom awaits me when i'm done here and can only access that Kingdom by meeting up with the criteria of Love, which comes by accepting the Love offered to me by Jesus Christ, without which, i can't be a partaker of that Kingdom, So sir, pls tell me what i stand to loose when i close my eyes in death and discover the much expected Kingdom does not exist. If there's no Hellfire of Heaven, what will i lose?

Well, let me begin by saying, depression can not happen to any Child of God who has the Holy Spirit inside of them and maximizes His blessedness. The reason is because, depression is a spirit and two opposing spirits can not cohabit the same host. The very first thing that happens to believer when the Holy Spirit steps into his/her life is unexplainable Joy and peace. There's no way that experience can be put to words. Jesus knows that the world is full of tribulation and situations that causes discouragement, hence; He said, Come unto me..., He came back as the Spirit the comforter. Every Spiritually sensitive and aware Christian knows that we don't belong here that is why the world hates us. We have a Kingdom and if we feel comfortable here, we'll loose sight of our Kingdom, so we can't be burdened by the things of the world and when we don't have them, we kill ourselves as a result.

But, most Christians also make the mistake of Misdirecting their focus by taking it off God and placing them on men hence, setting themselves up for a great fall. Our Hope comes from God alone.

Some don't know how to pray, they take their Wills to God for approval when they should have asked God what His will for them is. God will never answer or do our will, it's either we do as He Wills or leave yourself vulnerable to the attacks of Satan by discouragement and doubt.

Atheism is now organized in groups and have support groups too. I go to Reddit and see them dropping links to support groups for those contemplating suicide, yet they still kill themselves.

Have you ever heard the word Hope? Hope is what believers in Jesus have. Every Jesus believing Christian has the hoping of living eternally with Jesus at death, why kill myself when i know i will die anyways?
We know that our lives on earth are a Trust and a Test, hence; we live it cautiously knowing we'll hand it over some day and account for how we used it.

Trust me, to you what i just said is Rocket Science becos it just flew above your head.

You mean i don't use my brain now that i'm Christian? How? Do you mean if you and i sat for an examination you'd make better grades than i because you are an atheist and me a Christian? Or if we worked in the same establishment and are given tasks to perform you'd do better then i because you are an atheist? hahahahahaha.
pls don't make me laugh. Do you really believe it when you are told you are smarter than a Christian?

Pls explain to me what you mean by mental slavery.

What is reality? You described the unfairness of Life here as though Life has power of it's own to create situations that are unfavourable. Is life a living force?
What makes life unfair?

Destiny talks about a 'destination', and destination talks about the future and the future talks about targets and Hope. Without a purpose we can not begin to talk about destinations.
What is the destination of an atheist on earth? You believe you are like animal or a flower which is here today but tomorrow, can be gone leaving no memories behind.

If we are just chemicals with no reason to live in the first place, why strive or thrive to be anything at all?

Sir, maybe i shd outline the benefits of my being a Christian to you so that you can tell their negatives or how they are detrimental to me, hence; dissuade me from pursuing the life i'm currently pursuing as a Christian.

What you gave to me as benefits are nothing to go by, as I have never failed an exam before. i'm not boasting here, but i have never sat for any exams and get called back for a resit, never. I have never sat for an interview and was not called to resume work. And, i'm not an atheist.

If you truly believe that you are smarter because you are an atheist, well... Wow.

Xbee007:

Well, technically oncewe aredead stuffslike that wouldn't matter just likethey didn't before we were born. It is just nothingness...

Xbee007:

Again, I repeat depressioncanhappen to anyoneregardless oftheGod(s) you worship orhow manytimesyou pray in a day. Just that religionseems to be abetter copping mechanismin third worldcountries. In better organised ones, they havetherapist and Support Groupsfor that. And if you continue sayingthat depressedChristiansdo not have enoughholyspirit inthem that is whythey are depressedthenyou are really insensitive. Cositjust takes onesadincidentto send a healthyhumanmind intothat slippery slope ofdepression. For instance, take a woman full of"Holy Spirit" who thenlost her husband and children in aroad accident. She will naturallybe depressedif she doesn't get good helpandsupportfromlovedones.

Xbee007:

Ourhoperest onour shouldersalone. Although there aresome things that are beyondour control, hence, it is leftto us to accept the things we cannotchange, change the things that wecan and be able to tell the difference between thetwo.