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Re: Is Accepting Jesus Christ The Same Thing As Being Born Again? by shoboy9: 9:41am On Mar 18, 2018
Jesus died for us on the cross.
God accepted His sacrifice. He proved this by raising Him from the dead.
To become born anew, you exchange your sins for the righteousness of Jesus.
The proof that you have done this is the manifestation of the spirit in your life e.g. speaking in tongues.
The kingdom of God is now present within you.
However you still have choices to make. It is not over. e.g. Paul despite being born again, still confronted and subjected the flesh daily.
The c
Christian is a creation with a new Spirit that is of God but still retains the flesh of the old person with its habits and ways.
The more you obey the Spirit within, the more the flesh dies off.
Also when Jesus rose up, he gave gifts unto men. (Eph 4:11-17).
These gifts are the tools you use to become as Jesus was. What you are given is the Spirit of God as Jesus had it (in fullness)
But the gift you operate in is a part of that fullness. It is simply for your "convinience", because of the flesh. So you can grow into the fullness of Christ rather than having it thrust on you suddenly.
I hope this clears a few things. Sorry I avoided adding the quotes. Most of them are well known. Thanks.

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Re: Is Accepting Jesus Christ The Same Thing As Being Born Again? by Dworldknows: 9:52am On Mar 18, 2018
Both have different meaning. I quote, Accepting him as Lord and Savior simply mean ''welcome him into your life'' and Born again means dinning[ study the word of God daily,Avoid sin,tell people about him, walk in the path of righteousness and be a giver] at all time.
pweshboi:
I know most people get confused a whole lot about this topic.

I was discussing repentance with a friend of mine and we got to the hypocrisy part of most Christian's, he made mention of some Christian's that exhibits a religious outward look but in secret they are devil's advocate.

He then later made mention of a part in the Bible matthew 7:21 where Jesus said ' it is not everyone that calls me father father that will enter into the kingdom of God' meaning it is not everyone that lip talk "accepting Jesus" are actually born again. Now his argument is, being born again is of the spiritual and it's more than mere words of one saying they've accepted Christ.

In conclusion he said though accepting Christ is the way to being born again but it's not the same thing and can never be equated with being born again.
Now my question to everyone is , in your own opinion is being born again the same thing as you verbally saying you accept Jesus Christ?

Mods please do the needful and let's hear people's views about this.

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Re: Is Accepting Jesus Christ The Same Thing As Being Born Again? by Nobody: 9:55am On Mar 18, 2018
who da hell is Jesus? the same Jesus that exists in fairytales? grin

why do a grown ass man like me want to be born again? grin is that even physically possible? some people really are deluded.
Re: Is Accepting Jesus Christ The Same Thing As Being Born Again? by DunnuellDivi(m): 9:56am On Mar 18, 2018
My dear, when you invite JESUS into your heart, you are born again.
Re: Is Accepting Jesus Christ The Same Thing As Being Born Again? by mozizlink: 9:56am On Mar 18, 2018
Once u are born again.......you have decided to accept christ smiley
Re: Is Accepting Jesus Christ The Same Thing As Being Born Again? by Innobee99(m): 10:06am On Mar 18, 2018
PAGAN9JA:
madness.

As Africans from different indigenous tribes, accepting some mythical zombie like jesus is like mentally enslaving ourselves to a cult-like doctrine from a foreign nation.

We must learn from the Chinese, Japs and Indians and return to Gods of our forefathers.

Don't complain about the sorry state of your nation when you yourself are the cause of it as is evident from this balderdash post.

There are more pressing issues on Earth and this op is more concerned about being born again or rubbish. Chai
I pray u for a brain reset
Re: Is Accepting Jesus Christ The Same Thing As Being Born Again? by pweshboi(m): 10:11am On Mar 18, 2018
lamalang:
iam sorry, is a reply meant for that lost soul PAGAN9ja
Ohh I'm so sorry bro, since you didn't quote him directly I thought it was meant for the op... I'm so sorry man
Re: Is Accepting Jesus Christ The Same Thing As Being Born Again? by Kei144(m): 11:51am On Mar 18, 2018
To be born again means that you were born previously and want to be reborn. People make the mistake of thinking that the previous birth refers to a person's biological birth by her/his mother, but that is not really what it refers to. The previous birth refers to Adam being born of God in the beginning of mankind.

Ge. 2:7 Then the Lord God formed the man from the dust of the ground and breathed into his nostrils the breath of life, and the man became a living being.

The moment man received divine life in Ge. 2:7, man became born of God. Unfortunately, the glory of God (the divine life) left man when man sinned against God. We were all in the loins of Adam and Eve when they were born of God, as well as when they fell from glory. That is why any person that receives the divine life is born again of God.

Mt. 13: 31 He told them another parable: “The kingdom of heaven is like a mustard seed, which a man took and planted in his field.
32 Though it is the smallest of all seeds, yet when it grows, it is the largest of garden plants and becomes a tree, so that the birds come and perch in its branches.”

33 He told them still another parable: “The kingdom of heaven is like yeast that a woman took and mixed into about sixty pounds[b] of flour until it worked all through the dough.”


Adam was the mustard seed that God planted on earth. Adam has developed into billions of branches, but evil spirits (birds of the air) lodge in those branches. Evil spirits were brought into Adam's bloodline by a woman that brought in sin.

Jn. 12:24 Very truly I tell you, unless a kernel of wheat falls to the ground and dies, it remains only a single seed. But if it dies, it produces many seeds.

Jn. 15:1 “I am the true vine, and my Father is the gardener.


God planted another human seed, in the name of Jesus. In order for him to become a tree with many branches, he died for the sins of the branches of Adam. Through the death of Jesus Christ, a branch of Adam can be grafted into Jesus' spiritual bloodline. Because Jesus is forever born of God, any person that is grafted into the tree or spiritual bloodline of Jesus is born of God. The way to be grafted into Jesus' spiritual bloodline is through baptism into Jesus hrist, in water and in the Spirit.

Jn. 3:5 Jesus answered, “Very truly I tell you, no one can enter the kingdom of God unless they are born of water and the Spirit.
Re: Is Accepting Jesus Christ The Same Thing As Being Born Again? by BdorianGray(m): 1:34pm On Mar 18, 2018
pweshboi:
I know most people get confused a whole lot about this topic.

I was discussing repentance with a friend of mine and we got to the hypocrisy part of most Christian's, he made mention of some Christian's that exhibits a religious outward look but in secret they are devil's advocate.

He then later made mention of a part in the Bible matthew 7:21 where Jesus said ' it is not everyone that calls me father father that will enter into the kingdom of God' meaning it is not everyone that lip talk "accepting Jesus" are actually born again. Now his argument is, being born again is of the spiritual and it's more than mere words of one saying they've accepted Christ.

In conclusion he said though accepting Christ is the way to being born again but it's not the same thing and can never be equated with being born again.
Now my question to everyone is , in your own opinion is being born again the same thing as you verbally saying you accept Jesus Christ?

Mods please do the needful and let's hear people's views about this.

Let's be open minded about this. Only an intelligent and profound analysis of this blatant falsehood would revel to us that this is just a mere flawed theory that has been perpetuated by the failed Christianity for ages.
Still no one asked questions and many so called Christians prefer to swallow this hook line sinker...
If u like accept Jesus Christ for as long as you live, that don't mean one is born again and that won't stop anyone who is found wanting from having a horrible vacation in hades. A Muslim, a Buddhist , a Jew, an IFA worshipper that applies universal principles of spirituality and has never known or heard of Jesus the Christ let alone accepting him still stands higher chances of having his eternity in heaven than a deluded christian that foolishly believes all that gobbledygook about accepting Christ.
The most important thing in life is authentic and sincere repentance. Every other thing is a miserable waste of time.
Re: Is Accepting Jesus Christ The Same Thing As Being Born Again? by orisa37: 2:15pm On Mar 18, 2018
Accept Jesus with all your Heart, with all your Soul, with all your Mind and with all your Strength then you are BornAgain.

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Re: Is Accepting Jesus Christ The Same Thing As Being Born Again? by bloodofthelamb(m): 2:34pm On Mar 18, 2018
Repeating some words is not the same thing as being born again. You can be calling Him Lord with your mouth but your heart and mind is far from Him as the east is far from the west...

You are "born again" when His Spirit comes upon you.

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Re: Is Accepting Jesus Christ The Same Thing As Being Born Again? by DSDLIVEREPORT: 3:48pm On Mar 18, 2018
PAGAN9JA:
madness.

As Africans from different indigenous tribes, accepting some mythical zombie like jesus is like mentally enslaving ourselves to a cult-like doctrine from a foreign nation.

We must learn from the Chinese, Japs and Indians and return to Gods of our forefathers.

Don't complain about the sorry state of your nation when you yourself are the cause of it as is evident from this balderdash post.

There are more pressing issues on Earth and this op is more concerned about being born again or rubbish. Chai
Na so . I flow with u as per Hell get plenty space and you wan help devil fill am .well done
Re: Is Accepting Jesus Christ The Same Thing As Being Born Again? by Nobody: 3:50pm On Mar 18, 2018
Saying the sinners prayer or trying to lead a better or more moral life does not make you bornagain.
The mistake people make is to think they can make themselves bornagain. It is not the child that decides to be born but it is God that decides it.
A man is bornagain when the Spirit of Jesus comes to dwell in him.
Re: Is Accepting Jesus Christ The Same Thing As Being Born Again? by Nwaohafia1: 3:57pm On Mar 18, 2018
ok
Re: Is Accepting Jesus Christ The Same Thing As Being Born Again? by chinazaJoshua: 5:10pm On Mar 18, 2018
You cannot I accept Jesus Christ into your life and not be Born Again,and you cannot be Born Again without accepting Jesus Christ.(John 1:12).
Though some Christian pays lip service,that is, their confession does not conform to what they profess.There are some people,especially,the ones who are privileged to be born into a Christian family who have not really made that personal decision to accept Christ into their life as Lord and Saviour,these ones (I call them Christians by believe system or religion and not by conviction)
Christians by conviction are the ones who consciously accepted Jesus Christ into their life ----this ones are born again(Romans 10:9-10)
Re: Is Accepting Jesus Christ The Same Thing As Being Born Again? by Peacefullove: 6:40pm On Mar 18, 2018
rottennaija:
Two scriptures answers the question. 1 John 5:1 and 1 John 3:9.

Both reads

1 John 3:9 Those who have been born into God's family do not sin, because God's life is in them. So they can't keep on sinning, because they have been born of God.

1 John 5:1 Everyone who believes that Jesus is the Christ is a child of God. And everyone who loves the Father loves his children, too.

Infact, the book of 1 John discusses so much about being born again than other scriptures. It has to do with two things,

1.accepting christ in our lives, which includes having faith in him, publicly declaring that faith through baptism and
2. Not carrying in sins anymore.

The above is the true meaning of being born again or born from above. A lot of Christians actually do one part but are never really born from above they many carry on sins.

Funny Christians

All you mentioned never makes a person born again, John in those passages was only highlighting the qualities a person who has been born again will possess.

God himself .makes a person born again according to Yeshua ( John 3 vs 8 ) nobody decides to be. Born again themselves.
Re: Is Accepting Jesus Christ The Same Thing As Being Born Again? by Jozzy4: 6:51pm On Mar 18, 2018
chinazaJoshua:
You cannot I accept Jesus Christ into your life and not be Born Again,and you cannot be Born Again without accepting Jesus Christ.(John 1:12).
Though some Christian pays lip service,that is, their confession does not conform to what they profess.There are some people,especially,the ones who are privileged to be born into a Christian family who have not really made that personal decision to accept Christ into their life as Lord and Saviour,these ones (I call them Christians by believe system or religion and not by conviction)
Christians by conviction are the ones who consciously accepted Jesus Christ into their life ----this ones are born again(Romans 10:9-10)

Its actually possible to accept Christ as Lord and Savior without necessarily being born again .

John the Baptist belived in Jesus Christ, yet he wasn't born again ... Cos the records said he won't be in the kingdom of heavens ( Mat 11:11)

- Also one of the thief's on Jesus side also accept him as Lord and Saviour , putting faith in him, Yet he wasn't born again because Jesus did not promise him heaven , Instead he promise him paradise ( which every Jew reading the Septuagint knew refers to the Garden of Eden , thus a reference to the New Earth ).
Re: Is Accepting Jesus Christ The Same Thing As Being Born Again? by paxonel(m): 7:15pm On Mar 18, 2018
pweshboi:
I know most people get confused a whole lot about this topic.

I was discussing repentance with a friend of mine and we got to the hypocrisy part of most Christian's, he made mention of some Christian's that exhibits a religious outward look but in secret they are devil's advocate.

He then later made mention of a part in the Bible matthew 7:21 where Jesus said ' it is not everyone that calls me father father that will enter into the kingdom of God' meaning it is not everyone that lip talk "accepting Jesus" are actually born again. Now his argument is, being born again is of the spiritual and it's more than mere words of one saying they've accepted Christ.

In conclusion he said though accepting Christ is the way to being born again but it's not the same thing and can never be equated with being born again.
Now my question to everyone is , in your own opinion is being born again the same thing as you verbally saying you accept Jesus Christ?

Mods please do the needful and let's hear people's views about this.
Accepting Jesus is not the same thing as born again o
Re: Is Accepting Jesus Christ The Same Thing As Being Born Again? by shadeyinka(m): 7:23pm On Mar 18, 2018
bedspread:
Accepting JESUS CHRIST confirms on you that you are Born again.
Praise GOD
Accepting Jesus as Saviour is easy to do. How about accepting Him as Lord?
Re: Is Accepting Jesus Christ The Same Thing As Being Born Again? by rottennaija(m): 8:23pm On Mar 18, 2018
Peacefullove:


Funny Christians

All you mentioned never makes a person born again, John in those passages was only highlighting the qualities a person who has been born again will possess.

God himself .makes a person born again according to Yeshua ( John 3 vs 8 ) nobody decides to be. Born again themselves.

Explain John 3v8 and how God's spirit chooses someone to be born again. Give examples of people you know and how they experience it
Re: Is Accepting Jesus Christ The Same Thing As Being Born Again? by Honesty007(m): 11:24pm On Mar 18, 2018
solasoulmusic:
I think they are two different things because you could accept Christ and not necessarily change your way of living to reflect that. There has to be a sacrifice something you used to do as a man or woman in the world that you drop entirely and seek Christ.

I am not perfect o but I dropped Alcohol I’m in church now I will add more later

i liken a new born again to a baby physically.They can still make mistakes or error,a baby can still pooh on the body or peep(spiritually its sin) and that is why they need a follow up ie taught how to read the bible(eat spiritual food) and pray(drink water of life)to be able to attain spiritual maturity they must be baptized by the Holyghost and fire.
after repentance,comes salvation,then Deliverance is the next compulsory thing because man was born in sin.man must be free from satan and his demons ,enemies luke 1:68-75.donot expect a newborn again to attain holiness so fast.

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Re: Is Accepting Jesus Christ The Same Thing As Being Born Again? by paxonel(m): 4:46am On Mar 19, 2018
The moment you were born into a christian home you were saved like that automatically .
You don't need born again

Born again is fake doctrine for unintelligent christians
Re: Is Accepting Jesus Christ The Same Thing As Being Born Again? by Peacefullove: 7:53am On Mar 19, 2018
rottennaija:


Explain John 3v8 and how God's spirit chooses someone to be born again. Give examples of people you know and how they experience it

The only thing that makes sense In your post is the first sentence. Which I will do

John 3:8
The wind blows wherever it pleases. You hear its sound, but you cannot tell where it comes from or where it is going. So it is with everyone born of the Spirit.”

A person that is born of the spirit knows/ feel it that it has happened to them just as a person felt the sound of the wind as it blows in their direction .

The statement, you CANNOT TELL where it comes from or where its going shows the person themselves did not control the process , but it was done by The Almighty God . they only felt it.

In light of this, your second question becomes baseless because none of those who has experience this can actually tell how it happened, they only felt it within them that they had been born again.

Trying to explain it is like trying to describe how the wind blows to someone who has never experience or saw the wind .

Its Yeshua whom you call Lord that said so . Not peacefullove .

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Re: Is Accepting Jesus Christ The Same Thing As Being Born Again? by Nobody: 8:41am On Mar 19, 2018
Honesty007:


i liken a new born again to a baby physically.They can still make mistakes or error,a baby can still pooh on the body or peep(spiritually its sin) and that is why they need a follow up ie taught how to read the bible(eat spiritual food) and pray(drink water of life)to be able to attain spiritual maturity they must be baptized by the Holyghost and fire.
after repentance,comes salvation,then Deliverance is the next compulsory thing because man was born in sin.man must be free from satan and his demons ,enemies luke 1:68-75.donot expect a newborn again to attain holiness so fast.

Great opinion
Re: Is Accepting Jesus Christ The Same Thing As Being Born Again? by rottennaija(m): 9:28am On Mar 19, 2018
Peacefullove:


Funny Christians

All you mentioned never makes a person born again, John in those passages was only highlighting the qualities a person who has been born again will possess.

God himself .makes a person born again according to Yeshua ( John 3 vs 8 ) nobody decides to be. Born again themselves.

Explain how 1 John 5:1 and 1 John 3 :9 highlight the qualities of a person who has been born again posses and how such qualities is different from other who have not been born again.

When explaining, include why Jesus would tell someone whom he knew had no control on the matter of being born again, since as you explained is done by God, who has no choice in whether he is born again or not that "he must be born again", else he would not see the kingdom of God.

Also, explain Romans 8:14 with John 1:12.

As a final question, when praying to God in heaven, addressing him as "our father in heaven", do you really feel the son-father relationship (Mt 6:9, compare with Ro 8:14, Jn 1:12, 1 Jn 3:9 and 5:1) or you simply call him our as "Jehovah"? Do you really see yourself as his son? Or you don't actually see him as your "father in heaven" as Jesus and his disciples feel it?
Re: Is Accepting Jesus Christ The Same Thing As Being Born Again? by bedspread: 11:55am On Mar 19, 2018
shadeyinka:

Accepting Jesus as Saviour is easy to do. How about accepting Him as Lord?
Just as u accepted HIM as Savior , U accept HIM as LORD...
Re: Is Accepting Jesus Christ The Same Thing As Being Born Again? by shadeyinka(m): 11:59am On Mar 19, 2018
bedspread:
Just as u accepted HIM as Savior , U accept HIM as LORD...
Yes, you are correct. A lot of Christians are willing to accept Jesus as their saviour BUT not as Lord.
If Jesus was their Lord, they would be bound to live under His authority and will.

You will always know them by their contrary fruit

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Re: Is Accepting Jesus Christ The Same Thing As Being Born Again? by Peacefullove: 12:07pm On Mar 19, 2018
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rottennaija:


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Explain how 1 John 5:1 and 1 John 3 :9 highlight the qualities of a person who has been born again posses and how such qualities is different from other who have not been born again.

When explaining, include why Jesus would tell someone whom he knew had no control on the matter of being born again, since as you explained is done by God, who has no choice in whether he is born again or not that "he must be born again", else he would not see the kingdom of God.

Also, explain Romans 8:14 with John 1:12.

As a final question, when praying to God in heaven, addressing him as "our father in heaven", do you really feel the son-father relationship (Mt 6:9, compare with Ro 8:14, Jn 1:12, 1 Jn 3:9 and 5:1) or you simply call him our as "Jehovah"? Do you really see yourself as his son? Or you don't actually see him as your "father in heaven" as Jesus and his disciples feel it? [/s]
I only showed you what Yeshua teached on the subject of born again. A Fact you can't disprove!!!

As for your questions, I can't spoon feed you ... As a Christian , do your research or ask Any born again Christian how they feel if they could tell you .
Re: Is Accepting Jesus Christ The Same Thing As Being Born Again? by rottennaija(m): 1:54pm On Mar 19, 2018
Peacefullove:
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I only showed you what Yeshua teached on the subject of born again. A Fact you can't disprove!!!

As for your questions, I can't spoon feed you ... As a Christian , do your research or ask Any born again Christian how they feel if they could tell you .






In order words, you can't explain them as it doesn't fit into your what you have believed and you cannot explained them away. It's not surprise, I use to believe that nonsense for years.

Seek christ while it's not too late. Be born again if you ever will see God's kingdom.
Re: Is Accepting Jesus Christ The Same Thing As Being Born Again? by Nobody: 3:12pm On Mar 19, 2018
pweshboi:
I know most people get confused a whole lot about this topic.

I was discussing repentance with a friend of mine and we got to the hypocrisy part of most Christian's, he made mention of some Christian's that exhibits a religious outward look but in secret they are devil's advocate.

He then later made mention of a part in the Bible matthew 7:21 where Jesus said ' it is not everyone that calls me father father that will enter into the kingdom of God' meaning it is not everyone that lip talk "accepting Jesus" are actually born again. Now his argument is, being born again is of the spiritual and it's more than mere words of one saying they've accepted Christ.

In conclusion he said though accepting Christ is the way to being born again but it's not the same thing and can never be equated with being born again.
Now my question to everyone is , in your own opinion is being born again the same thing as you verbally saying you accept Jesus Christ?

Mods please do the needful and let's hear people's views about this.
What your friend isn't far from the truth.
Re: Is Accepting Jesus Christ The Same Thing As Being Born Again? by Nobody: 3:14pm On Mar 19, 2018
PAGAN9JA:
madness.

As Africans from different indigenous tribes, accepting some mythical zombie like jesus is like mentally enslaving ourselves to a cult-like doctrine from a foreign nation.

We must learn from the Chinese, Japs and Indians and return to Gods of our forefathers.

Don't complain about the sorry state of your nation when you yourself are the cause of it as is evident from this balderdash post.

There are more pressing issues on Earth and this op is more concerned about being born again or rubbish. Chai
No be quarrel. If you non like abeg leave those wen like am.

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