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Re: The NBA Begins by A40(m): 4:46pm On May 17, 2018
BarthramLestat:


The Cavs have a tendency to let half time leads slip especially in the third. Don't know if it's complacency or fatigue but they need to figure out how to fix that. They usually lose games either in the first or the third. My key would be for LeBron to come out as aggressive as he did in game 2. Allow the role players to get theirs in the second and then go on an onslaught again in the third. We usually do well with third quarter leads.
They are still a relatively old team so that would explain some of the sluggishness. For me in order to avoid a scenario where LeNomad does all the work then your offense has to draw up more plays for the other facilitator George Hill. As well as LeNomad played he still had 6 turnovers that generated extra possessions for Boston.

For a home game I think its important for LeNomad to be aggressive but more importantly efficient as a passer as well. If he's going to make 10 assists and 7 turnovers then it kinda defeats the purpose. This was what etidy was trying to tell you that you attacked him.
Re: The NBA Begins by Eruditor: 5:05pm On May 17, 2018
Donndino:
The Rockets are setup to stop Curry from making threes, therefore Curry struggling isn't disastrous. It was more damaging that Klay Thompson got so cold. KD is guaranteed to get 20+ points per game. However the warriors need a good game from one of Steph/Klay to win.

They close in on him and don't mind if he blows by to make a 2 rather than a 3 because our whole kerr-inspired offense is setup around Curry's 3 and the way he forces teams to leave at least 2 players unmarked.

When we could not get over the hump against Cavs in 16 the argument was that when his 3s did not fall it affected other aspects of his game and we relied so much on rhythmic offense that we stagnated without it. Enter KD who was king of ISO but could not win a ring with it. KD is supposed to be the guy to give us offense when all else fails. Like prime Shaq was or Jordan etc.

You can tell that Curry is more unhappy that his 3s are not falling than anything else. In fact, he does not seem to enjoy making explosive drives than the 3 but KD is very content eating from midrange and the stripe. Hence why Curry was trying to force the 3s yesterday. He needs it. GSW needs it.

I said all that to say, KD can score 40pts a game and still lose. He knows that from his OKC days. It is imperative that Curry should still be leading the offense even if he is causing stupid turnovers. KD can get his buckets through ball movement or bailout but if he continues to be first option, GSW will wobble.

Curry is decoying through the offense. Picking the ball after it is brought up. Giving it to KD then running through screens of which they will just be pulling and holding him. When he is not free, KD ISOs us and then on the other end Curry is left to watch Harden make 10k crossovers and if he is hot, the step back will fall. And the competitor in him will want to make a retaliatory 3 and before you know it..chucking..missing..repeat.

It is Curry leading the offense that was game 1. Game 2, after first Q, we went to KD ball. Hence Klay and others having bad games. It is KD ball that made us lose that game to Cavs in 2017s regular season game. It was Curry leading the offense when we beat them by 35 few weeks later.

KD ball works when Curry is totally not playing because the opposing teams have to make their plans around him and Klay instead. As long as he plays, they make it about him not because KD cannot be guarded but because they know Curry is the key to GSW winning. Cavs game 4, Curry was off..KD dropped 34 or so..we still got blown out.

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Re: The NBA Begins by Roland17(m): 5:10pm On May 17, 2018
A40:
I don't think Steph is a 100% which is why I find it borderline bizarre that he is guarding Harden on that many iso possessions considering the injury he suffered would surely hurt his ability to move laterally.

Harden is not shooting well and that's why the score was not uglier than it was plus it's also hurting Steph on offense! He's looked lethargic and it's hurt his ability to finish closer to the rim

Role players tend to play better at home which is why I wouldn't expect Gordon. Ariza or Tucker to shoot near perfectly while Golden State's reserves play like dirt. However this Houston team is not scared of Golden State and I wouldn't be remotely surprised if they steal a game at the Oracle. The Warriors are playing with a complacency that is part deliberate and part mental fatigue which kinda explains why KD is the only one that has really been consistent this postseason

I don't think they have played poorly this series. I expected the Rockets to come out aggressive in game two. Curry's situation is not physical if you ask me. I think it is more of what the Rockets are forcing him to do, which is get him on the pick and roll at the top of the key and if he switches, go ISO against him. Listen to the post game of coach MDA and you would hear him agree with my stance. It is a deliberate tactics to go at Curry in a bid to disrupt his offense, which has worked in 2 games. If I was Kerr, I would move Curry away from the top of the key, move him to the wings and if they choose to drive at him from the wings, let the weak side help him. It is more mental and a shooters slump if you ask me and he needs that confidence in his 3 balls going in again. You can see his team mates rallying around him to encourage and during hurdles, Kerr tries to motivate him one on one, that tells me its more mental than anything else for Curry.

KD would always be KD, not sure there is a better scorer in the NBA than the man.

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Re: The NBA Begins by Eruditor: 5:13pm On May 17, 2018
SIRcumalot:
Warriors still winning this series.
Cavs-celtics na the real show.
Every thing dey tell me say Celtics go win but to count out bron and the cavs na something my brain can't get with.

LOL Bro, Celts are not great away. The greatest chance they have is home court. As for the, JR Smiths and co, they will shoot bunkers on their court. It is a truism that role players more than often play well a home. And that is all Bron needs. He cannot run riot for 4 Qs. He usually coasts in 2nd and atimes 3rd quarters so he needs those role players to bail him out. If they win game 3..they will win game 4 and Celts will need to win game 5 which they will.

At the beginning of the series, I said Bron would not sweep. I was thinking 4-2 or 4-1 TBH. Now, I smell a 7 game series. In my heart, I prefer to play Bron in the finals. Don't want to give these young celts any experience at that level for now or else they will overtake GSW sooner than most expect.
Re: The NBA Begins by Nobody: 5:15pm On May 17, 2018
A40:
They are still a relatively old team so that would explain some of the sluggishness. For me in order to avoid a scenario where LeNomad does all the work then your offense has to draw up more plays for the other facilitator George Hill. As well as LeNomad played he still had 6 turnovers that generated extra possessions for Boston.

For a home game I think its important for LeNomad to be aggressive but more importantly efficient as a passer as well. If he's going to make 10 assists and 7 turnovers then it kinda defeats the purpose. This was what etidy was trying to tell you that you attacked him.


George hills playmaking and passing skills leave a lot to be desired. As to LeBrons turnovers if you're the primary ball handler playing against a gritty defensive team you're bound to have a few of those especially if you're making the sort of passes LeBrons been attempting. Granted some a few of those turnovers were unforced and he needs to work on those. I do agree the ball needs to move around a bit more but the problem is like I said these guys don't have that ability to create shots and the only way to get them involved is if LeBron has the ball in his hands.

Game 3 will tell us everything we need to know. If the Cavs win I'm that 80% confident we can wrap this one up in as early as 6 games.
Re: The NBA Begins by Roland17(m): 5:17pm On May 17, 2018
Eruditor:




You can tell that Curry is more unhappy that his 3s are not falling than anything else. In fact, he does not seem to enjoy making explosive drives than the 3 but KD is very content eating from midrange and the stripe. Hence why Curry was trying to force the 3s yesterday. He needs it. GSW needs it.

Roland17:


if you ask me and he needs that confidence in his 3 balls going in again.

I agree 100%

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Re: The NBA Begins by Eruditor: 5:24pm On May 17, 2018
Roland17:


I don't think they have played poorly this series. I expected the Rockets to come out aggressive in game two. Curry's situation is not physical if you ask me. I think it is more of what the Rockets are forcing him to do, which is get him on the pick and roll at the top of the key and if he switches, go ISO against him. Listen to the post game of coach MDA and you would hear him agree with my stance. It is a deliberate tactics to go at Curry in a bid to disrupt his offense, which has worked in 2 games. If I was Kerr, I would move Curry away from the top of the key, move him to the wings and if they choose to drive at him from the wings, let the weak side help him. It is more mental and a shooters slump if you ask me and he needs that confidence in his 3 balls going in again. You can see his team mates rallying around him to encourage and during hurdles, Kerr tries to motivate him one on one, that tells me its more mental than anything else for Curry.

KD would always be KD, not sure there is a better scorer in the NBA than the man.

I have been agreeing with your posts even when I was not quoting them. The only area I slightly disagree with is the hiding Curry part because it will play into his mind.

I know Harden got buckets on him in both games. But to me, those were contested shots. Just that great offense always trumps great defense.

CP3 and Harden had 4/20 3s and 43pts together. Harden had his 27 on 24 shots (+free throws). He was not exactly efficient. Curry is just looking exposed because he is not producing offensively.
Re: The NBA Begins by Nobody: 5:31pm On May 17, 2018
Roland17:


KD would always be KD, not sure there is a better scorer in the NBA than the man.

There isn't.

KD.
Harden.
LeBron.
Curry.
AD.
Re: The NBA Begins by Hardetayour: 7:48pm On May 17, 2018
Eruditor:


They don’t need to hide anything. Harden was dropping his buckets on other people as well. That is why I even zoned out from listening to any of those analysts because most of them just rehash the same things or give popular opinion.

Hide Curry this...His bla bla is bla bla. Curry’s issue is mental. Towards the end of the first Q when GSW called a time out Curry shot from 30ft and it splashed. Yet seconds earlier he had missed from 28 without any hand directly on his face.

Like I said, for some reason, he struggles at certain times away. The only reason people are talking about D is because he did not score as well on the other end. If he made 5 of his 8 3s that game goes Warriors way. It is a game of fine margins. Especially away.

U get it. I believe the hiding just makes Curry tired cos of all the running. Let him just defend Harden from tip off
Re: The NBA Begins by A40(m): 8:19pm On May 17, 2018
BarthramLestat:


George hills playmaking and passing skills leave a lot to be desired. As to LeBrons turnovers if you're the primary ball handler playing against a gritty defensive team you're bound to have a few of those especially if you're making the sort of passes LeBrons been attempting. Granted some a few of those turnovers were unforced and he needs to work on those. I do agree the ball needs to move around a bit more but the problem is like I said these guys don't have that ability to create shots and the only way to get them involved is if LeBron has the ball in his hands.

Game 3 will tell us everything we need to know. If the Cavs win I'm that 80% confident we can wrap this one up in as early as 6 games.
This is why I will always come back to that mid season trade. No new guy on the team wants to be 'the one that phucks it up'

This is not the George Hill that was running things in Utah last year and his tentativeness is understandable.

LeNomad is always trying those Hollywood passes and therein lies the reason for those turnovers. I think George Hill while unable to match LeNomad's flash would be able to create simpler and more efficient looks like we saw in spurts in Game 7. If the 3 isn't falling then there has to be another way the Cavs need to find to win

The likes of Hood and Clarkson can actually generate their own offense. The problem is one is a mental midget while the other is way too inefficient.

Barring injuries you are not beating this Boston 4 straight. Forget it
Re: The NBA Begins by chic2pimp(m): 8:28pm On May 17, 2018
Hol up Hol Up people it's not only one game. Once Curry gets His shooting form back, it'll be lights out(which He'll certainly do at the Oracle). Also Klay has gotten his customary one bad game out of the way so be rest assured He won't be this bad for the remainder of the series.

Phucking K.D if this dude wasn't on Golden state, we will be talking about the series lasting 7 games grin grin
Re: The NBA Begins by Eruditor: 8:38pm On May 17, 2018
chic2pimp:
Hol up Hol Up people it's not only one game. Once Curry gets His shooting form back, it'll be lights out(which He'll certainly do at the Oracle). Also Klay has gotten his customary one bad game out of the way so be rest assured He won't be this bad for the remainder of the series.

Phucking K.D if this dude wasn't on Golden state, we will be talking about the series lasting 7 games grin grin

They reacted this way when GSW lost to Pelicans.

Flip the script and let it be that GSW dropped a home game to Rockets the media would have been awash with how Rockets have done what is necessary. That is the only thing that is annoying me.

If we lost by a close game (they will say we don't execute well). If we dropped a huge lead to lose (we were figured out). We are either expected to sweep or lose the series we can't win any series by dropping a game or 2 grin
Re: The NBA Begins by chic2pimp(m): 9:04pm On May 17, 2018
Eruditor:


They reacted this way when GSW lost to Pelicans.

Flip the script and let it be that GSW dropped a home game to Rockets the media would have been awash with how Rockets have done what is necessary. That is the only thing that is annoying me.

If we lost by a close game (they will say we don't execute well). If we dropped a huge lead to lose (we were figured out). We are either expected to sweep or lose the series we can't win any series by dropping a game or 2 grin

First of all i'd like to give credit to Mike D and the boys as I certainly did not see that coming. I knew they'll nick a game or two but not in that fashion. A blow out win was not on the cards.

Now having said all that, we have to look at the bigger picture. One team came in to the game knowing Loose and it's series over whilst the other went into it having already achieved it's objective of winning back home court advantage. Little wonder they started the game sloppy and turned it over time and again. This won't happen again as I expect them to be fully locked on for the remainder of series.

The only way this series goes 7 games is if Steph never recovers from His shooting Slump(He is Key to how the Warriors operate). Do you really expect 2 of the best 3-5 shooters the NBA has ever seen to shoot this badly again? I DON'T!
Re: The NBA Begins by Eruditor: 10:07pm On May 17, 2018
chic2pimp:


First of all i'd like to give credit to Mike D and the boys as I certainly did not see that coming. I knew they'll nick a game or two but not in that fashion. A blow out win was not on the cards.

Now having said all that, we have to look at the bigger picture. One team came in to the game knowing Loose and it's series over whilst the other went into it having already achieved it's objective of winning back home court advantage. Little wonder they started the game sloppy and turned it over time and again. This won't happen again as I expect them to be fully locked on for the remainder of series.

The only way this series goes 7 games is if Steph never recovers from His shooting Slump(He is Key to how the Warriors operate). Do you really expect 2 of the best 3-5 shooters the NBA has ever seen to shoot this badly again? I DON'T!

I quite agree. Rockets deserved their win it is that simple.

But GSW is a blowout loss kinda team. Got blown out by SAS and Pels so I am not too surprised... only sad.

The way everyone switched on GSW just irked me because they don't do same for Lebron. No analyst is bold enough to say Cavs are in trouble yet they have lost by 38pts in 2 games combined. Nobody even sounded like Celts deserved their game 1 win, everyone made it look like what Bron did not do. Okay. He did it next game and they lost, then they turn it into desire and home court etc.

Don't get me wrong I have not ruled Cavs out but that is simply because I am trying to be objective. But barely anyone is making objective analysis on GSW..I am just reading hot takes. The thing dey tire me. The way they are talking is as if we lost 2 games to Rockets by 40 each. Even after we beat them game 1, I was angry that everyone started calling for a sweep. Making Rockets look like scrubs as if they are Toronto.

As for SC, he is good. Ayeesha is preggers with their boy so my man needs to be in Cali around her. He will go flambé at the Oracle. I am certain of that.

How do I know she has a boy? I just know wink
Re: The NBA Begins by Nobody: 10:14pm On May 17, 2018
No rational person is thinking the warriors are in trouble because of that game 2. When you listen to analysts whose sole purpose is ratings and entertainment and you take what they say to heart then you need to work on your sensitivity.
Re: The NBA Begins by Eruditor: 10:24pm On May 17, 2018
BarthramLestat:
No rational person is thinking the warriors are in trouble because of that game 2. When you listen to analysts whose sole purpose is ratings and entertainment and you take what they say to heart then you need to work on your sensitivity.

I am posting here on NL not on their youtube videos or blogs where they may never see it. That is exactly how sensitive I am.

You should relax..I am putting posts here.
Re: The NBA Begins by A40(m): 10:48pm On May 17, 2018
Roland17:


I don't think they have played poorly this series. I expected the Rockets to come out aggressive in game two. Curry's situation is not physical if you ask me. I think it is more of what the Rockets are forcing him to do, which is get him on the pick and roll at the top of the key and if he switches, go ISO against him. Listen to the post game of coach MDA and you would hear him agree with my stance. It is a deliberate tactics to go at Curry in a bid to disrupt his offense, which has worked in 2 games. If I was Kerr, I would move Curry away from the top of the key, move him to the wings and if they choose to drive at him from the wings, let the weak side help him. It is more mental and a shooters slump if you ask me and he needs that confidence in his 3 balls going in again. You can see his team mates rallying around him to encourage and during hurdles, Kerr tries to motivate him one on one, that tells me its more mental than anything else for Curry.

KD would always be KD, not sure there is a better scorer in the NBA than the man.
You mean Steph? I've not been convinced by Steph since his return oh. KD has been Golden State's best player by a country mile. If it were down to Steph and Klay alone I no know where Golden State for dey

The Rockets would not stop going ISO. It's what got them into the dance and you don't change your game in the 9th inning. And make no mistake about it they are very capable of stealing a game in Oakland

Like you said Steph needs to get taken out of the firing line so he can focus on finding his shot again. Because for the Warriors to blow this series open Steph has to Steph! The role players of Golden State have not impressed and it remains to be seen that they magically hit the switch now.
Re: The NBA Begins by Nobody: 11:54pm On May 17, 2018
Eruditor:


I am posting here on NL not on their youtube videos or blogs where they may never see it. That is exactly how sensitive I am.

You should relax..I am putting posts here.

But you're saying the motivation of your angry rants is what they're saying and I'm only saying if that's the case your temperament is getting the better of you.
Re: The NBA Begins by Eruditor: 12:17am On May 18, 2018
BarthramLestat:


But you're saying the motivation of your angry rants is what they're saying and I'm only saying if that's the case your temperament is getting the better of you.

I guess you are right.
Re: The NBA Begins by birdman(m): 1:44am On May 18, 2018
Everyone thinks curry needs that 3 magic back to get his mind right. That would be bad for warriors. Because all rockets have to do is body him and give him bad looks even if it means letting a roleplayer score. Either he passes the ball or he takes bad shots. Which is not good for his mental game.

I would prescribe the opposite. Do what opened up those threes for you before. Get a few buckets or fouls close to tbe rim. In other words get some rhythm the right way. His first 5 shots should not be 3s. Kerr needs to draw up plays to force this issue. Curry does not need 100% speed if he gets matched up with a big man, even capela

To be that accurate, you need crazy mental game. And you have to work yourself into it
Re: The NBA Begins by Roland17(m): 2:59am On May 18, 2018
A. Vasilevskiy is on another goaltending planet tonight with some magnificent saves. Ovy has been very influential, you can how hard he is playing but he has to score one of these open chances.
Re: The NBA Begins by SmooshCHN: 6:50am On May 18, 2018
A40, Eruditor, Roland17, Chic2pimp, etidy. Una too get sense..

Even when Kerr moved Curry to the wing, his man would come and screen for Harden for a switch. One the way to screening, someone else would rotate to switch to Harden but they'll attempt the switch till its Curry so Harden can ISO. I like him at the Center cos it buys us time and makes Houston's offense stagnant.

Anyways about us, I'm not worried. We've not had our best game in this series. And Steph would show up at some point. Draymond needs to chill with excess passes and take some of the offensive loads.

Birdman cannot win twice a year. It cannot happen. grin

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Re: The NBA Begins by Eruditor: 7:39am On May 18, 2018
SmooshCHN:


Even when Kerr moved Curry to the wing, his man would come and screen for Harden for a switch. One the way to screening, someone else would rotate to switch to Harden but they'll attempt the switch till its Curry so Harden can ISO. I like him at the Center cos it buys us time and makes Houston's offense stagnant.

Anyways about us, I'm not worried. We've not had our best game in this series. And Steph would show up at some point. Draymond needs to chill with excess passes and take some of the offensive loads.

Birdman cannot win twice a year. It cannot happen. grin

Like I said, hiding him or not is not what matters. It is building the offence around him which even he would concede he has not really done well against Houston because of his missing 3.

Someone recommended instead of layups he should take mid range shots and work his way back out beyond the line. That can work because he needs his shot to tear drop or splash for muscle memory to kick in. It is clear that layups don't do that for him because he has gotten those easily but still struggled rhythmically in offense. I know that using him as a decoy for KD only makes KD get buckets with little offense anywhere else. I saw one or two savvy Reddit handles that said similar.

Make we dey watch sha. A few nightmares here and there but Sunday will soon be upon us. If you have not seen Deadpool 2 you should. It was a good movie.
Re: The NBA Begins by SmooshCHN: 8:26am On May 18, 2018
Eruditor:


Like I said, hiding him or not is not what matters. It is building the offence around him which even he would concede he has not really done well against Houston because of his missing 3.

Someone recommended instead of layups he should take mid range shots and work his way back out beyond the line. That can work because he needs his shot to tear drop or splash for muscle memory to kick in. It is clear that layups don't do that for him because he has gotten those easily but still struggled rhythmically in offense. I know that using him as a decoy for KD only makes KD get buckets with little offense anywhere else. I saw one or two savvy Reddit handles that said similar.

Make we dey watch sha. A few nightmares here and there but Sunday will soon be upon us. If you have not seen Deadpool 2 you should. It was a good movie.
You're right. We could care less about him on defense if he shows up on offense.

I'm not a movie person and I remember the last Deadpool to be very dry. I'll try watch this one. BTW, China will screen movies like crazy and censor some parts before it premieres in cinemas. We got to watch Avengers like a week and half after.
Re: The NBA Begins by Decale: 2:47pm On May 18, 2018
SmooshCHN:
I'm not a movie person and I remember the last Deadpool to be very dry.


Is it the same Deadpool that I watched five tans?

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Re: The NBA Begins by SmooshCHN: 4:09pm On May 18, 2018
Decale:



Is it the same Deadpool that I watched five tans?
I just watched it again to confirm sey i no dey make mistake. To be generous, the movie na solid 5/10.

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Re: The NBA Begins by Eruditor: 6:07pm On May 18, 2018
SmooshCHN:
You're right. We could care less about him on defense if he shows up on offense.

I'm not a movie person and I remember the last Deadpool to be very dry. I'll try watch this one. BTW, China will screen movies like crazy and censor some parts before it premieres in cinemas. We got to watch Avengers like a week and half after.

You may not enjoy the movie overly censored. It has a lot of cussing..gore and graphic imagery. But it was a funny movie that much is sure.
Re: The NBA Begins by Decale: 6:10pm On May 18, 2018
SmooshCHN:
I just watched it again to confirm sey i no dey make mistake. To be generous, the movie na solid 5/10.


Cc: Mynd44 Lalasticlala Seun
Re: The NBA Begins by Nobody: 6:25pm On May 18, 2018
SmooshCHN:
You're right. We could care less about him on defense if he shows up on offense.

I'm not a movie person and I remember the last Deadpool to be very dry. I'll try watch this one. BTW, China will screen movies like crazy and censor some parts before it premieres in cinemas. We got to watch Avengers like a week and half after.

Don't let people roused by mediocrity sway you man whose name sounds like poop hitting the toilet bowl. I did not watch that movie but I can definitively say that the movie sucked because all movies suck. Your IQ points just went up double digits in my eyes man whose name sounds like poop hitting the toilet bowl.
Re: The NBA Begins by SmooshCHN: 6:28pm On May 18, 2018
Eruditor:


You may not enjoy the movie overly censored. It has a lot of cussing..gore and graphic imagery. But it was a funny movie that much is sure.
I watched the last one on the Netflix app. It's was meh but I'll give this new one a try. Na next week things for here be that. grin
Re: The NBA Begins by SmooshCHN: 6:34pm On May 18, 2018
Decale:



Guy!! Wetin I do? Why you dey mention them oga at the top? cheesy
Re: The NBA Begins by Decale: 6:43pm On May 18, 2018
BarthramLestat:


Don't let people roused by mediocrity sway you man whose name sounds like poop hitting the toilet bowl. I did not watch that movie but I can definitively say that the movie sucked because all movies suck. Your IQ points just went up double digits in my eyes man whose name sounds like poop hitting the toilet bowl.

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