somehow:


What were you responding to when you said "i no watch the costal rica match"?

About the movement of a certain player you mentioned in Costa Rica match.

forgiveness:


My friend, if you are becoulded by emotions to remit judgement, I have gone beyond that.

I don't care about what Ighalo played years ago, I am talking about what I saw yesterday which is fact.

You all shouting Ighalo didn't play well. Ok who will play well in that situation?

Na Iheanacho abi na Simy? Well, maybe simy can do well alone yesterday but I don't think Iheanacho will do nada yesterday. Fact.

Read my lips abi na finger again. Iheanacho will do nada if isolated like Ighalo yesterday.

Simy will do little too because he still needs support but Mikel didn't do anything to support or add pressure.

You people should cool down and read match with common sense before you start shouting this player no good.

The ball Ighalo took a weak shot was as a result of no Nigerian player in the box to receive a pass.

Anyway, make Rohr commot Ighalo put the player that rocks your boat so we go get peace for this place. Haba!

Truth be told, Ighalo is very poot striker.. his goal return in the national team is bad... but I agree with you that Iheanacho wouldn't have done better if he had started ahead of Ighalo yesterday with that same lineup .. Iheanacho struggles as a lone striker everybody knows that...that's even the main reason Ighalo was recalled to the team after the South Africa game... the major mistakes Rohr made yesterday was starting shehu and playing Iwobi on the wing...it really affected our wing play... only Moses was effective on the wing.. Iwobi would have done better at amf while Etebo handled the wing. Ebuehi would have offered more offensively than shehu..


Seriously Rohr should take all the blame for the defeat.. if he repeat d same thing against Iceland, he must be fired...

goldfish80:


Sentiment is sentiment. It doesn't have to be frivolous to be sentiment. When you leave behind your best asset just because he doesn't fit into your philosophy, what do you call that?

Do you know Stephen Eze was the best defender while in camp just before the world cup? Those who saw the team's training session were full of commendation for him. I'm even thinking judging by his height and ariel dominance, he would have been an asset with the cowardly defending of corner kicks which is the bane of this team. I don't have the stats but at Chan he must have won the most ariel battles in that competition.

Why do you think he was dropped since Germans are immune to sentiments?

Hahahaha hahahaha. In camp you say. I long stopped believing all those useless talk about being the best in camp. So you still believe those reports?

'He would have, he would have, he would have'.

Newsflash: all the players dropped would have, would have, would have just because they are not there!.

Na so dem shout up home based goalies until Atletico match blow olorunleke nyash open.

This same simplistic reasoning is the same one you attacked the pro - Ebuehi guys yesterday through to this morning and here you are saying same thing in defence of your biases. So now do you agree that Ebuehi WOULD HAVE done better than Shehu? (Hahahaha hahahaha. I don catch am)

Opinion that's all you have so far and no factual basis for your opinion.

Neither Rohr nor Loew left behind their best assets. Edi287 has punctured all your points and given reasons that can justify why the coach choose the players he chose. And I bet if you seat down with these coaches and they explain their motivations to you, you will shelf this your opinion.

If we dey talk football especially WC make una no dey mention CHAN abeg you.

At the bolded: see if I'm a coach I'd likely not take players like Vicmo and Onyekuru as my wingers no matter how good they are cos my winger must cross the ball and be good at it. I will be faithful to my philosophy, not a player unless the player fits. So if for this practical reason I pick one player and not the other it is sentiments. Does this sound reasonable to you Bro?

forgiveness:


About the movement of a certain player you mentioned in Costa Rica match.

Did you watch costa rica vs Serbia?

Danielnino00:



Truth be told, Ighalo is very poot striker.. his goal return in the national team is bad... but I agree with you that Iheanacho wouldn't have done better if he had started ahead of Ighalo yesterday with that same lineup .. Iheanacho struggles as a lone striker everybody knows that...that's even the main reason Ighalo was recalled to the team after the South Africa game... the major mistakes Rohr made yesterday was starting shehu and playing Iwobi on the wing...it really affected our wing play... only Moses was effective on the wing.. Iwobi would have done better at amf while Etebo handled the wing. Ebuehi would have offered more offensively than shehu..


Seriously Rohr should take all the blame for the defeat.. if he repeat d same thing against Iceland, he must be fired...

I agree with you on everything but I don't agree Ighalo is a poor striker.

Maybe he is poor in the National team.

I want him to play tall players against Iceland because those guys are tall and rely on set piece.

somehow:


Did you watch costa rica vs Serbia?

Already l told you no.

Newton's Third law of motion states that for every action, there is an equal but opposite reaction. That is what is happening here since that underwhelming performance by our team. Should we be looking and licking our lips Asif their performance didn't affect us?


The thing was that the setpieces issue I've clamored will soon ruin us is the same one that ruined us yesternight. Then we didn't even bite. We just went Knocking sotey some twitter fans are saying that Subasic need not bathe after the match cos he was rarely tested or made to dive atall.


Why can't we bite and maim?

Why?

Some things are basic and should be the decision of the players themselves. Must the coach tell them to practice setpieces before they know it's important?

We lack lots of things, basic things and I pray it's not a decider of our fate, however little it may seem to many. We may bounce back, but we need to be extraordinary come Friday. Arrrggghhh.

Pirlo didn't need no coach to tell him to practice freekick an extra hour after Juventus finished their normal training sessions. Same for Baba Giggs, Ronaldo.

Watched a friendly of Brazil and Alves told Neymar to leave the freekick for him to take, imagine. Luiz still stood over it with his right and eventually took it. Imagine a Balogun or Shehu standing over setpieces.... that's part of what we need. We are just tooooo natural. set 94 should be the yardstick every coach that comes must use as understudy. Why can't they?

A pity JJ wasn't understudied to know how to take freekick like him in the national team. Whereas foreign players are the ones saying they watched him and kick it like him.

Rohr should just allow his boys to watch the Mexico match abeg. How come they defended well from 7 cornerkicks and didn't conced from it from almighty German with Ozil right there?

I still cant believe what just happened between Croatia and Nigeria. How can Rohr be this stubborn and still gather the temerity to defend it?? This man has no respect for Nigeria....All the friendly matches you played should have served as a learning curve but you didn't learn jack. You used this formation for qualifier but this is THE WORLD CUP ,Mr. German tactician!

I dont want to insult you but better fly straight to Germany if you fail to win the next game. How can you keep using a system that has failed so many times??

Ighalo is strong and skillful but he is not a scorer...I want that formation that defeated Argentina,nothing more. Mikel need to sit behind Iwobi...Mikel is spent anyways even if he lifts the world cup he still needs to go. Emotions of Nigerians are in the line

forgiveness:


I agree with you on everything but I don't agree Ighalo is a poor striker.

Maybe he is poor in the National team.

I want him to play tall players against Iceland because those guys are tall and rely on set piece.

He is poor in the national team and that's what that matters....
Ighalo and Iheanacho are our two main strikers and they struggle as lone strikers...Iheanacho in particular struggles due to lack of supplies from the midfield.he didn't have much problem with goalscoring at city cus there was enough suooky ..Ighalo is more used to playing with a partner since his Watford days with Troy Deneey..
That being said,it has already been proven that 3-5-2 is the ideal formation for the team...it will accommodate two strikers, keep our midfield tight,effectively utilize our full backs(Moses can even drop to Rwb or lwb) and still keep our defence tight...its effective for our quick paced counter attacking football... why the hell didn't Rohr use it....
the man is mad!

And how can these guys play like their feet were cut off?? This are boys that has played in some of the biggest stage in world football but all of a sudden they cant even create a single goal chance for 90 whole minutes....Its very disrespectful to their careers and embarrassing to the nation. Everybody knows Shehu is shaky but he went ahead and started him. He should have made his changes before the second half started.

Rohr the friendlies you said doesn't bother you are over ooo. This is the WORLD CUP!

elyte89:
Tbaba1234,aw far na


My guy don tire


B4 we 4 don dey c quotes,pics from camp

Oga, why do you keep mentioning me??

Now ,every team knows our weakness is set pieces and they will exploit it for every 90 minutes and see if we dont crack at some point. Rohr should hqve fixed this problem a long time.

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maybe you can should pick up your boot to play the next match.

Amedino99:
Meanwhile someone said davido should feature vicmo in his fall remix

Another ref would blow those as fouls. Moses was not given enough respect yesterday. They expect black players to be able to withstand a bullet but blow fouls at the slightest touch of the European. Ighalo was being held and the ref was blowing fouls against him. I don't expect much to be done but we should at least complain because we are not good enough to beat the ref also.

tbaba1234:


Oga, why do you keep mentioning me??

Bros e never reach that level na

Nedville:


Nigerians
We have a rectangle of ndidi Mikel etebo and iwobi....Mikel and ndidi in central midfield is the consensus now....but no one has answered who plays ahead of them.....is it iwobi or is it etebo
Nigerians are good at judging and criticising....we should take it easy

The fact that we are here debating this and debating that tells you some things
We don't even know our best 11
The subs are not much better than the ones that started
Well....we were doomed from the start...but a back 3 will have made us solid
We are dilly dallying between ebuehi and shehu...but let's ask ourselves.....did idowu play well?....

We need a left footed left back as soon as possible. We really do
The

Iwobi would be my first choice but Etebo is fine. At least if Etebo plays as a 10, he can always swap positions with Iwobi as he has played on the left for his club. Either ways is fine as long as we have Mikel dictating from deep. That is the most important thing

Mujtahida:

Hahahaha hahahaha. In camp you say. I long stopped believing all those useless talk about being the best in camp. So you still believe those reports?

'He would have, he would have, he would have'.

Newsflash: all the players dropped would have, would have, would have just because they are not there!.

Na so dem shout up home based goalies until Atletico match blow olorunleke nyash open.

This same simplistic reasoning is the same one you attacked the pro - Ebuehi guys yesterday through to this morning and here you are saying same thing in defence of your biases.

Opinion that's all you have so far and no factual basis for your opinion.

Neither Rohr nor Loew left behind their best assets. Edi287 has punctured all your points and given reasons that can justify why the coach choose the players he chose. And I bet if you seat down with these coaches and they explain their motivations to you, you will shelf this your opinion.

If we dey talk football especially WC make una no dey mention CHAN.

Chan is a category 3 tournament rated by FIFA on par with Afcon. If a guy was out jumping very tall Sudanese players, trust me that person should be noted.
This idea of writing off homegrown solution is the reason we will never do well in a competition like the world cup.

The failings of foreign coaches employed by Nigeria in recent past can be traced to their jettison of home made solutions. We employ people who are not even resident in Nigeria. I saw your write up the other day complaining about Rohr and his lack of knowledge of Nigerian football culture, I smiled and scrolled past. How do you expect a man resident in France to understand the footballing culture of Nigeria? Vogts, Lagerback and now Rohr haven't managed to cracked it and they were all coaching Nigeria from Europe.
Compare these guys with Westerhof who helped develop Nigeria football from the grassroots. The man knew particular tribes where he will scout and get particular type of players.

Back to the issue of sentiments, trust me my Intel about Eze's performance didn't come from roadside bloggers. You will be shocked if I mentioned my source.

Mujtahida:

Ekong has always been solid defensively. I find it hard to blame any of our players. My concern is that a defeatist mentality has taken over the team.

When a herd of sheep is led by a lion, they become brave and act like lions but when a sheep lead a pride of lions, they act like sheep.

Imagine Oliseh as our captain when we were a goal down....

BascoVanVeli:


Bros e never reach that level na

He has been mentioning me saying the same thing though.

goldfish80:


Sentiment is sentiment. It doesn't have to be frivolous to be sentiment. When you leave behind your best asset just because he doesn't fit into your philosophy, what do you call that?

Do you know Stephen Eze was the best defender while in camp just before the world cup? Those who saw the team's training session were full of commendation for him. I'm even thinking judging by his height and ariel dominance, he would have been an asset with the cowardly defending of corner kicks which is the bane of this team. I don't have the stats but at Chan he must have won the most ariel battles in that competition.

Why do you think he was dropped since Germans are immune to sentiments?

At the bolded: see if I'm a coach I'd likely not take players like Vicmo and Onyekuru as my wingers no matter how good they are cos my winger must cross the ball and be good at it. I will be faithful to my philosophy, not a player unless the player fits(this is what Gaurdiola said) . So if for this practical reason I pick one player and not the other it is sentiments?. Does this sound reasonable to you Bro?

phreakabit:


OMGoodness! i done nearly piss for cloth!

Barcelona played 4-3-3

Iniesta, plays on the left side of the midfield as a CAM. Rakitic has NEVER played in that position, even when he was in Sevila.
What are you talking about?
Rakitic was bought to replace Xavi.
Sergi Roberto was actually suppose to replace iniesta as he is a natural CAM, but he is considered not good enough, and thus has to settle for the RB position in place of Semedo.

if you were smart, you would have noticed an error if you see one. Was Rakitic brought in recently? I obviously meant Coutinho was brought in to replace Iniesta and not Rakitic.

Barca played a 4-2-3-1 by the way not 4-3-3. in fact most times it was a 4--4-1-1 with Messi behind Suarez.

Danielnino00:



He is poor in the national team and that's what that matters....
Ighalo and Iheanacho are our two main strikers and they struggle as lone strikers...Iheanacho in particular struggles due to lack of supplies from the midfield.he didn't have much problem with goalscoring at city cus there was enough suooky ..Ighalo is more used to playing with a partner since his Watford days with Troy Deneey..
That being said,it has already been proven that 3-5-2 is the ideal formation for the team...it will accommodate two strikers, keep our midfield tight,effectively utilize our full backs(Moses can even drop to Rwb or lwb) and still keep our defence tight...its effective for our quick paced counter attacking football... why the hell didn't Rohr use it....
the man is mad!

I totally agree we play with two strikers and I also totally agree we play that system but I don't agree we play Victor Moses as rwb or lwb. Mbanu!

Looking at that game, I understood why he used that system and I think it worked well until we conceeded a goal.

Croatia quickly parked the bus and relied on counter attacks and it worked for them.

forgiveness:


Hmmmmm! I don't think so, if we go far in this tournament, and that is why I am given all my support so far.

Criticizing the team without profounding Solutions is just not going to help the team.

However, Eze all pledged to play for us. We should invite him immediately after the world cup during our qualifiers.

Man I don't see us beating both Iceland and Argentina. The game against Iceland will be too tough. They are just too organized. They won't even give us the space we got against croatia.

Mujtahida:


At the bolded: see if I'm a coach I'd likely not take players like Vicmo and Onyekuru as my wingers no matter how good they are cos my winger must cross the ball and be good at it. I will be faithful to my philosophy, not a player unless the player fits. So if for this practical reason I pick one player and not the other it is sentiments. Does this sound reasonable to you Bro?

It becomes a problem of sentiment if those players you picked are not as good as those dropped.

Nigeria can still make it out of the group but we need much better showings in subsequent games.

forgiveness:


Already l told you no.

So how then did you know Ighalo yesterday did what the guy i mentioned did today? Do you even know what the guy did?

Reason why i said you shouldn't have an opinion on what you have no clue on.

Happy birthday sir Goldfish80.

tbaba1234:
Nigeria can still make it out of the group but we need much better showings in subsequent games.

I wish I could be as optimistic as you are. Think we'll find it harder to play against Iceland than Argentina

somehow:


So how then did you know Ighalo yesterday did what the guy i mentioned did today? Do you even know what the guy did?

Reason why i said you shouldn't have an opinion on what you have no clue on.

Because you said it. Simple

goldfish80:

It becomes a problem of sentiment if those players you picked are not as good as those dropped.

It is not sentiments. It is that my choices were bad. Finish. Mind you if na naija coach I will agree with you 100% but as far as the facts of Rohr’s selection or Loew is concerned I will not agree particularly since you have nothing to ground your opinion other than saying so and so player is good. Therefore if the coach picked so and so other than so and so who WOULD HAVE BEEN BETTER = sentiments.

So based on his showings don't you think Ebuehi WOULD HAVE done better than Shehu?

was it sentiments that made Rohr to choose Shehu ahead of Ebuehi?

edi287:

I wish I could be as optimistic as you are. Think we'll find it harder to play against Iceland than Argentina

I can only hope that the do or die mentality pushes them to action.