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Re: First Fruit Is A Scam, Be Wiser In 2019 by alBHAGDADI: 8:20am On Jan 01, 2019 |
babeosisi: Everyone in those offices are the ones entitled to offerings, tithes or firstfruits because they work in the house of God. 1 Corinthians 9:13-14 13 Do ye not know that they which minister about holy things live of the things of the temple? and they which wait at the altar are partakers with the altar? 14 Even so hath the Lord ordained that they which preach the gospel should live of the gospel. |
Re: First Fruit Is A Scam, Be Wiser In 2019 by babeosisi: 8:20am On Jan 01, 2019 |
alBHAGDADI: You do not owe God any tithes or firstfruits Hopefully someone else will read this and be set free. You owe God no money None. You don't need to give a penny to be blessed. You give cheerfully and willingly because you are blessed not to be blessed You don't sow or tap into anything.It's ignorance Your pastors won't tell you that truth. The laws of Israel are not your to keep In Christ you are free.He gives freely. 1 Like |
Re: First Fruit Is A Scam, Be Wiser In 2019 by babeosisi: 8:21am On Jan 01, 2019 |
alBHAGDADI: Read my previous posts |
Re: First Fruit Is A Scam, Be Wiser In 2019 by TruthHurts100: 8:21am On Jan 01, 2019 |
alBHAGDADI: Oga, go and learn the principles behind those laws, that is if you've ever heard of the principles behind the law. If a loving father tells his son not to go out to play, he will give him reasons and the consequences, this will help the child easily obey the law. Same as God. You can eat all these fruit but not this one, law, if you eat it, you will die, principle (obedience) which is what it means to love God. So, this law, do not eat is to show if Adam and Eve love God or not. So those things written by Solomon are principles of the Mosaic law which is what Jesus came to establish. If your child is disobedient, Mosaic law said he should be stoned to death, and it was a must for the Israelites to comply. Oga we are no more under that law. We are now under the law of the Christ which is of freedom and love. God loves a cheerful giver. |
Re: First Fruit Is A Scam, Be Wiser In 2019 by babeosisi: 8:22am On Jan 01, 2019 |
In the new testament emphasis on giving was always to thr poor. That's what the Bible says,today the pastors receive all manner seeds to enrich themselves They get richer the people get poorer You don't need to give a dime to any pastor to be wealthy .If tithing makes you rich,Nigerian church goers will be the wealthiest Most of you work for unbelievers. How come they are not the ones working for you Who did bill Gates sow into or give his tithes |
Re: First Fruit Is A Scam, Be Wiser In 2019 by TruthHurts100: 8:25am On Jan 01, 2019 |
alBHAGDADI: LOL, so what did Jesus and his disciples live on? Guy they never collected any of these things oooo, they no collect anything ooo. Them all get jobs ooo. Even Paul, Paul na tent maker oooo, he said he does not want want to put his burden on the congregation oooo. Guy you be pastor? If you are not working and you're a pastor, you must be very lazy. And a thief too. |
Re: First Fruit Is A Scam, Be Wiser In 2019 by babeosisi: 8:26am On Jan 01, 2019 |
TruthHurts100: He is working hard to help his pastor my joy is that many are reading my comments 1 Like |
Re: First Fruit Is A Scam, Be Wiser In 2019 by TruthHurts100: 8:29am On Jan 01, 2019 |
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Re: First Fruit Is A Scam, Be Wiser In 2019 by babeosisi: 8:30am On Jan 01, 2019 |
If giving first fruits or sowing seeds makes you wealthy the pastor won't ask you They will just go and sow seed and reap millions abi? They know it doesn't work.They are super rich because you are surrendering your money to them and you are poor because no one is surrendering any money to you. This is 2019,invest your money.Miracle money is a scam.it won't happen,go and work ,save and inveSt or start a business. Stop building cathedrals and domes and other real estate for a man and his family.build yours Stop funding those thieves calling themselves pastors . I know not all pastors are like this, there are srill a remnant who have not bowed to mammon 4 Likes |
Re: First Fruit Is A Scam, Be Wiser In 2019 by alBHAGDADI: 8:30am On Jan 01, 2019 |
TruthHurts100:Which job did Jesus, Peter John, James and the rest do? They didn't collect anything yet Judas was their treasurer. Paul in 1 Corinthians 9 explained why he chose to get a job and fend for himself. He in nope wise slam those apostles who were full time workers in the church. |
Re: First Fruit Is A Scam, Be Wiser In 2019 by Kusetic(m): 8:31am On Jan 01, 2019 |
alBHAGDADI: Salvation is free, the early Christians contributed money to take care of everyone in their fellowship not just the apostles, and this wasn't from tithe or first fruits. The bone of contention here is the manipulation and coercion by the preachers we have today. If someone contributes 100naira in church, as you have been deriding in your previous posts, he is doing it out of his freewill. It is not your place to tell him how to contribute or place curses as mines for him to avoid. If he also chooses to give it to widows or prisoners, please restrain your greed and mind your business. Churches are not agencies that should be paid before getting access to God. 5 Likes |
Re: First Fruit Is A Scam, Be Wiser In 2019 by alBHAGDADI: 8:33am On Jan 01, 2019 |
TruthHurts100: you contradict yourself. You muddled Solon and Mosaic law as what Jesus came to establish, yet you say we are no longer under them. Confusion for you |
Re: First Fruit Is A Scam, Be Wiser In 2019 by babeosisi: 8:33am On Jan 01, 2019 |
Kusetic: The pastors won't read those areas to them and they own bibles but refuse to read it themselves. The money contributed was for the welfare of everyone in the congregation |
Re: First Fruit Is A Scam, Be Wiser In 2019 by alBHAGDADI: 8:35am On Jan 01, 2019 |
Kusetic: If your pastor is scamming you, doesn't that mean that the Bible is also doing the same? Why not leave such pastor and go look for another church instead of throwing away the baby and the bath water. |
Re: First Fruit Is A Scam, Be Wiser In 2019 by purleesh(f): 8:35am On Jan 01, 2019 |
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Re: First Fruit Is A Scam, Be Wiser In 2019 by babeosisi: 8:36am On Jan 01, 2019 |
Acts 4 : 34 there were no needy persons among them. For from time to time those who owned land or houses sold them, brought the money from the sales Today a mumu with one piece of land living as tenant somewhere will give it to a pastor that owns so much so pastor will like them and God will favor them Brainwashing is terrible 1 Like |
Re: First Fruit Is A Scam, Be Wiser In 2019 by Kusetic(m): 8:37am On Jan 01, 2019 |
alBHAGDADI: And what happened to Judas who was so focused on the money that he even wanted the woman that bought perfumes to wash Jesus's feet to go and sell it and bring the money instead. Jesus never mandated collection of offerings or tithes or first fruit. This doesn't mean people won't have contributed to the gospel, but it's not by force or laden with curses. 1 Like |
Re: First Fruit Is A Scam, Be Wiser In 2019 by Kusetic(m): 8:41am On Jan 01, 2019 |
alBHAGDADI: You are the one advocating for compulsory compensation of pastors with first fruits and tithes and the likes, be more like Jesus, don't be like an insurance sales agent. 3 Likes |
Re: First Fruit Is A Scam, Be Wiser In 2019 by alBHAGDADI: 8:47am On Jan 01, 2019 |
Kusetic:The curses are from the Bible, not from your pastor. If you like obey or don't, but you will be offending God by telling people not to obey |
Re: First Fruit Is A Scam, Be Wiser In 2019 by alBHAGDADI: 8:49am On Jan 01, 2019 |
babeosisi:Have you sold your house or land and giving the money to church before? I bet you never gave beyond that dirty N100 you squeezed into the offering plate last year, yet you call it freewill giving and expect the church to survive on that |
Re: First Fruit Is A Scam, Be Wiser In 2019 by babeosisi: 8:52am On Jan 01, 2019 |
alBHAGDADI: No.The church won't take care of me.or anyone like they took care of them back then The poor are more important to me than building wealth and buildings and maintaining jets The apostles of old believed so too So we read in Acts All they asked was that we should continue to remember the poor, the very thing I had been eager to do all along. |
Re: First Fruit Is A Scam, Be Wiser In 2019 by don4real18(m): 8:55am On Jan 01, 2019 |
TruthHurts100:Point of correction- you were never under the law. You are a Nigerian and not an Isrealite 2 Likes |
Re: First Fruit Is A Scam, Be Wiser In 2019 by Kusetic(m): 8:57am On Jan 01, 2019 |
alBHAGDADI: I am trying to help you see that God is love and not someone that wants to destroy the world because a certain individual gave 100naira as offering 1 Like |
Re: First Fruit Is A Scam, Be Wiser In 2019 by babeosisi: 8:58am On Jan 01, 2019 |
don4real18: When the primary premise is not right nothing else will be right. Nigerians placing themselves under selected Mosaic laws. Honestly many pastors should quit the pulpit because they have done a poor job educating people . They do it deliberately because it brings them money The new testament clearly teaches that gentiles were never under the law and coming to Christ means coming to Grace not under mosaic laws 1 Like |
Re: First Fruit Is A Scam, Be Wiser In 2019 by skyhighweb(m): 9:00am On Jan 01, 2019 |
alBHAGDADI:bro u too are practically saying the same thing read his own well biko |
Re: First Fruit Is A Scam, Be Wiser In 2019 by babeosisi: 9:02am On Jan 01, 2019 |
Kusetic: My 100 naira cheerfully given is better than his January salary given under compulsion and fear My blessings will still be flowing because God gives me freely as promised.He gave me a job I am not waiting for GT bank to credit me someone's money like they are 2 Likes 1 Share |
Re: First Fruit Is A Scam, Be Wiser In 2019 by Nobody: 9:03am On Jan 01, 2019 |
alBHAGDADI: So u mean Jesus was collecting every Israelites first salary every year ? |
Re: First Fruit Is A Scam, Be Wiser In 2019 by Kusetic(m): 9:04am On Jan 01, 2019 |
alBHAGDADI: With that 100naira he has probably given way more than the tithes and first fruits you have been giving. God only cares about your heart. Except of course you see church as a bank as many like you are wont to do. 2 Likes |
Re: First Fruit Is A Scam, Be Wiser In 2019 by babeosisi: 9:06am On Jan 01, 2019 |
Kusetic: That's why they are sowing seed hoping to tap millions like palmwine. E no dey work like that o |
Re: First Fruit Is A Scam, Be Wiser In 2019 by BotafogoJunior(m): 9:08am On Jan 01, 2019 |
Rhodababy123:And you, be happy for yourself....yeye!!! |
Re: First Fruit Is A Scam, Be Wiser In 2019 by babeosisi: 9:09am On Jan 01, 2019 |
PrecisionFx: Jesus didn't even collect tithe let alone first fruit. The king of Kings walked around here on earth in the flesh and neither demanded nor received no such thing. He ascended up and we received the holy Spirit but pastors in Nigeria want to now chop tithe and first fruit that the master didn't take These people should fear God 2 Likes 1 Share |
Re: First Fruit Is A Scam, Be Wiser In 2019 by alBHAGDADI: 9:12am On Jan 01, 2019 |
Kusetic: God cares about that same heart that can't support his business? You have no love for God in your heart that's why you feel comfortable giving dirty N100 to him. |
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