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Re: Southwest Has Betrayed Us, In 2023, We Will Deal With Them- Gandujes' Aide by meromero11: 2:30pm On Feb 25, 2019
hucienda:
Alluded to something similar in a recent post today.

pipul eye go clear when PDP bring out northerner again for 2023 causing confusion among the APC ranks on what region should represent the party in the presidential contest.

Atiku will recontest in 2023 under PDP banner.
As for this 2019 election, it's a done deal for Buhari.
Re: Southwest Has Betrayed Us, In 2023, We Will Deal With Them- Gandujes' Aide by Babacele: 2:32pm On Feb 25, 2019
raumdeuter:


I partly blame Buhari for it, There was a rot in the APC which was infiltrated by 5th columnist this was displayed early in the Senate, Buhari should have provided leadership and called them to order but he waited and allowed it to grow. Many of the SW governors instead of performing and paying salaries were fighting Tinubu

That gave Oyegun power and empowered the double agents like Akeredolu who are APC by day Atiku by night

A sitting gvernor lost 2 senatorial district, It was Borrofice that he fought that was able to win his seat

And it looks like Ondo might be the only SW state lost

Ajimobi finished his tenure with a mediocre performance and wants to retire in Senate

If Oyegun had been booted out earlier and Oshiomole allowed to clear the issue say back in 2016-2017, APV would have solidified the ground

But all these SW governors think once they mention that they are fighting Tinubu their issue is resolved, they spent energy fighting imaginary Tinubu while losing the grassroot

That is why Tinubu will continue to remain strong, he never takes the grassroot for granted
Yakassai is talking nonsense. Why did the votes from the same Kano reduced this year from 2015's? Were it not for Tinubu, won't Oyegun and the cabals in Aso Rock who had perfected a plan to install Atiku , be laughing with saraki today? First was the issue of automatic ticket which Tinubu saw through n thwarted it. What about Dubai strategies? If that DSS director had not been fired while baba was away, do you know the damage he would have done to Baba's reelection cause he hunts with the fox and runs with the chicken 247. e.g He would have collected money from Wike to sabotage last week postponed election the way he did during the Rivers 2015 governorship tribunal. Have you seen the audio recording of how Wike was trying to bribe Inec officials before
.......? Baba is lucky that despite his lackadaisical attitude towards the rogue in the NA; the struggle against recession; coup against him by Obj , Ty,and Minna monster, etc he has Tinubu's unflinching support which is paying off today. Yakassai should rather blame Mallam Daura ,and his cabal.
Re: Southwest Has Betrayed Us, In 2023, We Will Deal With Them- Gandujes' Aide by themonk(m): 2:36pm On Feb 25, 2019
Goke7:


Politics is give and take bruv, if some people have been fair to you, it's only normal you reciprocate in good returns, did the yorubas complain of marginalisation under PMB like they did under GEJ. Did the igbos not not make GEJ their hero fro giving them all the 'juicy appointments' to use their own vocabulary

We try to be too leaglistic at times. Politics is a game and fair is fair.
Bro, let's be honest Buhari only loved his Northern brothers and this is reflected in his appointments. The only reason you feel he didn't marginalize the Yorubas is because he marginalized the igbos more than you guys. It's time people of the south stop using how bad someone else i's treated to justify how good they feel they have been treated. Even the so called Osibanjo was not treated right. If I was a Yoruba this would be a proud moment for me because I know my people vote out of intellect.

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Re: Southwest Has Betrayed Us, In 2023, We Will Deal With Them- Gandujes' Aide by omohayek: 2:49pm On Feb 25, 2019
Goke7:


how did PMB sank the economy? am open to this debate cos I think this narrative is false. Lots of misconceptions out there, yea we were in recession but we came out of it, so how did the economy sink? Despite this false narrative by the pdp, they have struggled in places where we expected a clean sweep.
If I told you to bring USD $1,000 of your own money to invest in a venture at N360 to USD $1, but that I would only give you back your investment and your share of the profits at N180 to USD $1, would you agree?

Buhari’s attempt to dictate the external value of the Naira is as pointless as if he tried to tell market-women how much to sell their wares for, with the results in both situations being the same: a shortage of whatever it is whose price is being capped.

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Re: Southwest Has Betrayed Us, In 2023, We Will Deal With Them- Gandujes' Aide by GrossPrice: 2:53pm On Feb 25, 2019
Viergeachar:
There will always be abookkis who will say SW didn't deliver enough. We Yorubas don't put all our eggs in one basket.









Comment withdrawn.

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Re: Southwest Has Betrayed Us, In 2023, We Will Deal With Them- Gandujes' Aide by urahara(m): 2:54pm On Feb 25, 2019
omohayek:

If I told you to bring USD $1,000 of your own money to invest in a venture at N360 to USD $1, but that I would only give you back your investment and your share of the profits at N180 to USD $1, would you agree?

Buhari’s attempt to dictate the external value of the Naira is as pointless as if he tried to tell market-women how much to sell their wares for, with the results in both situations being the same: a shortage of whatever it is whose price is being capped.


Funny enough he admitted that he didn't understand what the economists were telling him. He said he was neither an economist nor a business man.

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Re: Southwest Has Betrayed Us, In 2023, We Will Deal With Them- Gandujes' Aide by RTSC: 3:01pm On Feb 25, 2019
raumdeuter:


Sounds like you have conceded 2019 already.
Accepted the fact that the incumbency has rigged it.
I would have to wait for 2023 when he is no longer a real factor.

It seems the votes of sane Yoruba were in vain.

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Re: Southwest Has Betrayed Us, In 2023, We Will Deal With Them- Gandujes' Aide by Viergeachar: 3:01pm On Feb 25, 2019
GrossPrice:


Raised in the North 25 yrs under my belt.

There's a belief that Yoruba man is a backstabber. When I saw Ondo and Osun votes, I knew exactly what the average northerners would be discussing, they are livid right now.

Your voting pattern showed you can't be trusted. 2023, the North will most likely move back to PDP and Align with the East. But if they stay in APC, it would be the South South they rally around.

The west brought nothing special. Look at Imo, Delta, Abia, Rivers; showing they are capable of loyalty to a course. Loyalty and trust is very valuable in the North. In fact it is everything, all threats to APC came from western states.

Like I said; all the North sees now is backstabbing couple that with Osinbajo's loss in his polling unit. And Buhari's humiliation in Ogun.

Is was good while it lasted but this marriage between West and North in A PC is over.

SW only deliver bloc votes when they are number 1 on the ballot.

Any smart person should have realised that over time.

Osinbajo will be VP. And he will be available to act as president or become substantive when the time comes. By God's grace.... cool

What the North and SW have is an alliance.
Had Buhari not run alongside Osinbajo, he would have lost by now... smiley
Buhari is winning the SW, yes or no?
Re: Southwest Has Betrayed Us, In 2023, We Will Deal With Them- Gandujes' Aide by malton: 3:02pm On Feb 25, 2019
The apple doesn't fall far from the tree.

Salihu Yakassai is an uncouth, lazy, reprobate louth who can only cut it in a society where reprehensible acts are considered normal.

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Re: Southwest Has Betrayed Us, In 2023, We Will Deal With Them- Gandujes' Aide by raumdeuter: 3:04pm On Feb 25, 2019
RTSC:

Accepted the fact that the incumbency has rigged it.
I would have to wait for 2023 when he is no longer a real factor.

It seems the votes of sane Yoruba were in vain.

Its too early to start wailing, wait for all the results to be released first
Re: Southwest Has Betrayed Us, In 2023, We Will Deal With Them- Gandujes' Aide by BuhariAdvocate: 3:07pm On Feb 25, 2019
He actually stated the fact .those useless Christians have been used by Igbo's. They will face their consequences in 2023.
Re: Southwest Has Betrayed Us, In 2023, We Will Deal With Them- Gandujes' Aide by MONITZ: 3:10pm On Feb 25, 2019
nedu666:
When did the north ever hve plans to cede power to the south. Obj was an act of compensation not because they wanted to. Which is why they started sharia law and the crisis that followed. Mind u shagari, gmb, ibb, abacha, abdulsalam were in power, yet d north did not call 4 sharia law until obj bcame president.


Most sensible comment by far,u really understand the north's power play.The AD wasn't even supposed to be registered as a political party because they didn't fulfill the requirements needed in terms of spread Bt INEC just still had to register them so as to compensate them for the death of their son(Abiola).
Re: Southwest Has Betrayed Us, In 2023, We Will Deal With Them- Gandujes' Aide by raumdeuter: 3:15pm On Feb 25, 2019
GrossPrice:


Raised in the North 25 yrs under my belt.

There's a belief that Yoruba man is a backstabber. When I saw Ondo and Osun votes, I knew exactly what the average northerners would be discussing, they are livid right now.

Your voting pattern showed you can't be trusted. 2023, the North will most likely move back to PDP and Align with the East. But if they stay in APC, it would be the South South they rally around (makes them magnanimous) .

The west brought nothing special. Look at Imo, Delta, Abia, Rivers; showing they are capable of loyalty to a course. Loyalty and trust is very valuable in the North. In fact it is everything, all threats to APC came from western states.

Like I said; all the North sees now is backstabbing couple that with Osinbajo's loss in his polling unit. And Buhari's humiliation in Ogun.

Is was good while it lasted but this marriage between West and North in A PC is over.

The SE said more than this leading to this poll

I am looking forward to Osinbajo vs anyone from SE in 2023 and we will see how it ends

We are back to strategizing

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Re: Southwest Has Betrayed Us, In 2023, We Will Deal With Them- Gandujes' Aide by GrossPrice: 3:24pm On Feb 25, 2019
Viergeachar:


SW only deliver bloc votes when they are number 1 on the ballot.

Any smart person should have realised that over time.

Osinbajo will be VP. And he will be available to act as president or become substantive when the time comes. By God's grace.... cool

What the North and SW have is an alliance.
Had Buhari not run alongside Osinbajo, he would have lost by now... smiley
Buhari is winning the SW, yes or no?

Comment withdrawn

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Re: Southwest Has Betrayed Us, In 2023, We Will Deal With Them- Gandujes' Aide by BlakKluKluxKlan(m): 3:39pm On Feb 25, 2019
Goke7:


I agreed, we have allowed religion which was never an issue in the sw to finnally creep into our land. Our Pentecostal Pastors has caused a problem. For me, I have finally given up on sw Politics, we did same to Awolowo, Abiola and now this.

Blame Tinubu for that. He introduced religion into SW's politics by handpicking muslems like Aregbesola, Amosun, Fashola and Ajimobi.

CDC was a jihadist party yet Tinubu aligned the ACN with it to form APC.
Re: Southwest Has Betrayed Us, In 2023, We Will Deal With Them- Gandujes' Aide by Goke7: 3:50pm On Feb 25, 2019
BlakKluKluxKlan:


Blame Tinubu for that. He introduced religion into SW's politics by handpicking muslems like Aregbesola, Amosun, Fashola and Ajimobi.

CDC was a jihadist party yet Tinubu aligned the ACN with it to form APC.

you see our problem, religion is now an excuse to blame ourselves. Tinubu is not our problem but our way of thinking.

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Re: Southwest Has Betrayed Us, In 2023, We Will Deal With Them- Gandujes' Aide by NothingDoMe: 3:54pm On Feb 25, 2019
Metaphysical, did you see this? This looks like an excuse to execute what I told you about. Watch out.
Re: Southwest Has Betrayed Us, In 2023, We Will Deal With Them- Gandujes' Aide by Bizibi(m): 3:58pm On Feb 25, 2019
luxy44:
He is right! Southwest really messed up. You are the greatest beneficiary of this government yet you can't perform. I'm disappointed. What do they want again?? You will hear a Yoruba man shouting atikulate up and down even when you have your own man osibanjo as VP in APC....I don't understand this people
I'm from Niger delta but I have links in APC government..... It is the people that benefits not the elites.

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Re: Southwest Has Betrayed Us, In 2023, We Will Deal With Them- Gandujes' Aide by BlakKluKluxKlan(m): 3:59pm On Feb 25, 2019
Goke7:


you see our problem, religion is now an excuse to blame ourselves. Tinubu is not our problem but our way of thinking.

Then you are either ignorant of the truth or being mischievous.
Tinubu introduced religion into SW politics after destroying the AD to form AC.
Re: Southwest Has Betrayed Us, In 2023, We Will Deal With Them- Gandujes' Aide by Philistine(m): 4:02pm On Feb 25, 2019
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Re: Southwest Has Betrayed Us, In 2023, We Will Deal With Them- Gandujes' Aide by BENARI: 4:08pm On Feb 25, 2019
fekani:
south westerners are not stupid. we always know what we are doing.
we are majorly not tribalistic but we expect the anointed fellow to put in all their effort into building Nigeria.
And if you don't do it,even if you are Yoruba, you get booted out.
may the best man win.

I'm Igbo and I approve of your thought. All my Yoruba friends and neighbors voted Atiku because they see the truth and are not afraid to stand by it.

Yorubas have always had a reputation of saying the truth even if it hurts them. I was only disappointed by the gullible ones who turned on there Igbo neigbors in Lagos.
For me, it is hugely disappointing.

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Re: Southwest Has Betrayed Us, In 2023, We Will Deal With Them- Gandujes' Aide by nedu666: 4:17pm On Feb 25, 2019
Mark it, write it down just as pdp had so many candidates for its primaries, apc will have many candidates both north and south. Those who lose will switch to pdp. El rufai, shetimma will contest. Zoning is not in apc or nig constitution
Re: Southwest Has Betrayed Us, In 2023, We Will Deal With Them- Gandujes' Aide by Nobody: 4:22pm On Feb 25, 2019
omohayek:
Only in a backward sh*hole like Nigeria does one find politicians stupid enough to openly talk of a region "betraying" them by voting for someone else, as if the voters were the ones with an obligation to the politicians, rather than the onus being on the politicians themselves to show themselves deserving of voter support!

If Buhari has failed to receive the same support from the SW as he did in 2015, then he has only himself to blame; he waited 6 months to appoint a cabinet when he should have been ready to do so on the day of his election, he then spent most of the following year receiving treatment in London for a mystery illness he's still yet to disclose, and on his return he capped this dismal record by insisting on a wrong-headed "strong Naira" policy that drove away FDI and sank the economy. Just because he gave "juicy" appointments to a few lucky politicians, and borrowed lots of Chinese money to start work on a railway line that ought to have been completed before the unviable Kaduna-Abuja portion, a few northern political hacks think all Yorubas should be ignoring the economic wreckage Buhari has wrought?

Given Buhari's atrocious record, by all rights this election should have been a walkover for the PDP, if only they'd bothered to select a new face with credibility. Luckily for Buhari and his camp, the PDP insisted on repeating its old mistakes by selecting Atiku, another septuagenarian with a well-earned reputation for misusing his offices for self-enrichment. It's almost as if the PDP bigwigs were deliberately trying to guarantee Buhari another 4 years!
I wish Nigeria had more fair, and open minded people like you.

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Re: Southwest Has Betrayed Us, In 2023, We Will Deal With Them- Gandujes' Aide by Volksfuhrer(m): 4:44pm On Feb 25, 2019
GrossPrice:


Yesterday this was true, today not so much. You need to look at the political implications of the current results. The are pathetic; compared to the noise the West made. APC is barely going to win Lagos. Like I said the life threatening issues APC has a from the West.

The North knew Rivers, AkwaIbom e.t.c were a long shot .. But Ondo , Oyo! Bros, the West is not a good ally. At all. Easterner will follow you to hell and back, the SS will guard it's autonomy jealously but the West will "hedge" ; do you know what hedging means and why people hedge.

Then you ask yourself why the West , who is in a hot political romance hedge. It's simple; you thought Buhari has at most 50% chance of winning. So you decided to hedge; give Atiku 50% ;give Buhari 50%. So technically you jeopardize APC's mission by 50%.

This is what the North sees. And I gotta tell ya; it stinks.

Don't forget the North has Christians too.

Your analysis is an over-simplification.

I can resonate with the anger of the North over SW vote numbers, but I put the blame squarely at PMB's feet! I'm a Buhari supporter, but he didn't lead the party very well at the beginning. While he was busy "downsizing Tinubu's influence" he lost control of the National Assembly! What we are witnessing now in the SW emanated from PMB's failure of leadership. Buhari did many things wrong; he was slow with the "herdsmen crisis;" some even believed he was not truly in charge; even his reconciliatory moves to unite the Party in the SW came too late!

In any case, this isn't the time to point accusing fingers and further self destruct. APC should learn from these mistakes.

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Re: Southwest Has Betrayed Us, In 2023, We Will Deal With Them- Gandujes' Aide by Volksfuhrer(m): 4:47pm On Feb 25, 2019
GrossPrice:


Yesterday this was true, today not so much. You need to look at the political implications of the current results. The are pathetic; compared to the noise the West made. APC is barely going to win Lagos. Like I said the life threatening issues APC has a from the West.

The North knew Rivers, AkwaIbom e.t.c were a long shot .. But Ondo , Oyo! Bros, the West is not a good ally. At all. Easterner will follow you to hell and back, the SS will guard it's autonomy jealously but the West will "hedge" ; do you know what hedging means and why people hedge.

Then you ask yourself why the West , who is in a hot political romance hedge. It's simple; you thought Buhari has at most 50% chance of winning. So you decided to hedge; give Atiku 50% ;give Buhari 50%. So technically you jeopardize APC's mission by 50%.

This is what the North sees. And I gotta tell ya; it stinks.

Don't forget the North has Christians too.

Double Post.
Re: Southwest Has Betrayed Us, In 2023, We Will Deal With Them- Gandujes' Aide by Goke7: 4:48pm On Feb 25, 2019
BlakKluKluxKlan:


Then you are either ignorant of the truth or being mischievous.
Tinubu introduced religion into SW politics after destroying the AD to form AC.

ok let's continue, shebi na this country we dey! so funny you guys are still accusing the man of destroying AD after how many years? You guys forget how obj deceived the other AD Governors in 2003. We get problem for sw, issokay continue to blame Tinubu you hear?

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Re: Southwest Has Betrayed Us, In 2023, We Will Deal With Them- Gandujes' Aide by somegirl1: 5:04pm On Feb 25, 2019
raumdeuter:


The SE said more than this leading to this poll

I am looking forward to Osinbajo vs anyone from SE in 2023 and we will see how it ends

We are back to strategizing

How naive you are. It will be Osibanjo with a northern VP candidate versus a northern presidential candidate with an SE or SS VP candidate. Who do you think will win?

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Re: Southwest Has Betrayed Us, In 2023, We Will Deal With Them- Gandujes' Aide by somegirl1: 5:12pm On Feb 25, 2019
themonk:

Bro, let's be honest Buhari only loved his Northern brothers and this is reflected in his appointments. The only reason you feel he didn't marginalize the Yorubas is because he marginalized the igbos more than you guys. It's time people of the south stop using how bad someone else i's treated to justify how good they feel they have been treated. Even the so called Osibanjo was not treated right. If I was a Yoruba this would be a proud moment for me because I know my people vote out of intellect.

You are smart.

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Re: Southwest Has Betrayed Us, In 2023, We Will Deal With Them- Gandujes' Aide by BlakKluKluxKlan(m): 8:15pm On Feb 25, 2019
Goke7:


ok let's continue, shebi na this country we dey! so funny you guys are still accusing the man of destroying AD after how many years? You guys forget how obj deceived the other AD Governors in 2003. We get problem for sw, issokay continue to blame Tinubu you hear?


There is no difference between both of them. They are enemies of the yoruba but if the story of Obj's father being igbo, then Tinubu's case is worse.

You probably are not aware that the present inability of the yoruba to speak with one voice has it's genesis in Tinubu.
After destroying a cohesive AD and Afenifere, he went further to form Afenifere Renewal group to polarise the latter.
Please acquaint yourself with the facts of history so as to stop backing a wrong horse.
Re: Southwest Has Betrayed Us, In 2023, We Will Deal With Them- Gandujes' Aide by BlakKluKluxKlan(m): 8:23pm On Feb 25, 2019
Goke7:


you see our problem, religion is now an excuse to blame ourselves. Tinubu is not our problem but our way of thinking.


Has that way of thinking being from time immemorial or it started of recent as a result of an action ?
So you see that you are the one with a problem ?
Re: Southwest Has Betrayed Us, In 2023, We Will Deal With Them- Gandujes' Aide by Volksfuhrer(m): 4:30am On Feb 26, 2019
BlakKluKluxKlan:



There is no difference between both of them. They are enemies of the yoruba but if the story of Obj's father being igbo, then Tinubu's case is worse.

You probably are not aware that the present inability of the yoruba to speak with one voice has it's genesis in Tinubu.
After destroying a cohesive AD and Afenifere, he went further to form Afenifere Renewal group to polarise the latter.
Please acquaint yourself with the facts of history so as to stop backing a wrong horse.

Tinubu did not destroy AD and Afenifere. Tinubu's rise to prominence came only after he survived PDP's power play in the SW. AD and Afenifere's influence in the SW petered out after that...

If anybody was responsible for AD's emasculation and Afenifere's apparent irrelevance in the SW, that person would be OBJ!

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Re: Southwest Has Betrayed Us, In 2023, We Will Deal With Them- Gandujes' Aide by SamNaijaboy: 4:49am On Feb 26, 2019
Salihu Yakasai might be high on fermented kunu.
Buhari needs to understand that he failed on the economy and SW voters decided not to celebrate his failure on the most important thing.
Also, Oyo and Ondo bore the brunt of the herdsmen incursions. Falae's farm was destroyed, etc. Oyo farmers were impacted. Does he think they will then rush to endorse him? Those that were upset voted their conscience. Apparently enough were upset that he lost both states.
What of Ajimobi that kept insulting people with his ill-timed and unsympathetic "constituted Authority" outbursts? Did he make it to the Senate? Yorubas are the most astute and intelligent voters and know when you are to be taught an electoral lesson when you tick them off or you have outgrown your breeches.

Volksfuhrer:


Your analysis is an over-simplification.

I can resonate with the anger of the North over SW vote numbers, but I put the blame squarely at PMB's feet! I'm a Buhari supporter, but he didn't lead the party very well at the beginning. While he was busy "downsizing Tinubu's influence" he lost control of the National Assembly! What we are witnessing now in the SW emanated from PMB's failure of leadership. Buhari did many things wrong; he was slow with the "herdsmen crisis;" some even believed he was not truly in charge; even his reconciliatory moves to unite the Party in the SW came too late!

In any case, this isn't the time to point accusing fingers and further self destruct. APC should learn from these mistakes.

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