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Re: Why It Is Never Right For You To Pray That Your Enemies Fall And Die Today by benson4u(m): 7:08am On Mar 17, 2019
Carry on OP this to me it's an eye opener

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Re: Why It Is Never Right For You To Pray That Your Enemies Fall And Die Today by mrkings84(m): 7:08am On Mar 17, 2019
Oga OP I respect ur views in as much as they are scriptural. But i don't total agree with u cos these so witches and wizards do really exist most especially in Africa.

Let me ask u a simple question. If these witches lay hold on ur destiny, business, health, marriage, family etc and totally destroy them, and u know if u pray that they fall down and die that they will let u be, won't u pray it??


Anyway, the same Bible says in
Exodus 22:18, Suffer not a witch to live.
Basecon ur understanding u can pet them till they destroy u, but

As for me, anyone, (witches or wizards), spiritual wickedness in high places, or even any wicked politician making life difficult for me, or that's trying to terminate my destiny must face the music squarely.

They must fall down and die in Jesus name, Amen.

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Re: Why It Is Never Right For You To Pray That Your Enemies Fall And Die Today by Nobody: 7:08am On Mar 17, 2019
Op is correct! People who pray those kinds of prayers have earned themselves the reputations of Christian witches and wizards. What will they tell our Lord who instructed us to love and prayer for our enemies and persecutors? How about Roman 16:19 which says if we abstain from sin, God will definitely crush evil underneath our feet? Psalm 91 says those who dwell in the secret place of the most high will abide under the Shadow of the Almighty. How many of today's Christians and churchgoers have cordial relationship with Christ?

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Re: Why It Is Never Right For You To Pray That Your Enemies Fall And Die Today by CAPSLOCKED: 7:10am On Mar 17, 2019
chiommy123:
Op I used to think like you until they opened my eyes. You don't know what they do with peoples destiny these days.

AND THE ALL WISE GOD IS SUPPOSED TO LISTEN TO YOU WHEN YOU "ORDER" HIM TO KILL OTHER PEOPLE? undecided

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Re: Why It Is Never Right For You To Pray That Your Enemies Fall And Die Today by ETHIX(m): 7:11am On Mar 17, 2019
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From FeedMeJesus.com

A common practice in so many Nigerian and African churches in general, is the prayer of “my enemies fall and die!”

In case you are not familiar with this sort of prayer probably because you are reading this from outside the continent, “fall and die” prayers actually has to do with the “sending of Holy Ghost fire, earthquakes, thunder, rainfall etc to kill and destroy one’s enemies (mostly






witches and wizards) and evil spirits.”

The prayer is often targeted at “wicked” uncles, aunts, neighbours, colleagues, mothers, fathers, herbalists, old men and women in villages who does not take pleasure in seeing other people succeed in life.

Sometimes it is also targeted at politicians, leaders and even business people who oppose the spread of the Gospel and “exchange people’s destinies” for money.

This type of prayer is seriously backed up with the belief that there are people who must die before you can ever be successful in life and so you need to pray for this to happen as soon as possible with all your strength. Like a wounded Lion, you must be very violent when praying these fall and die prayers.

The shocking thing is, the two most popular scriptures proponents of such prayers always put their feet on has little or nothing to do with their usage today. The first is Matt.11:12.

(Mat 11:12) And from the days of John the Baptist until now the kingdom of heaven suffereth violence, and the violent take it by force.

Is this verse asking you to be violent in prayer and take your destiny by force? Well to understand what it is saying, let us read it from another translation.

From the days of John the Baptist until now, the kingdom of heaven has been forcefully advancing, and forceful men lay hold of it. Matt.11:12 NIV

The verse is simply saying from the time John the Baptist started preaching the kingdom of God has been forcefully advancing on the earth as men has by faith been taking hold of it. It has nothing to do with prayers, let alone violent ones.

The other scripture used to promote these “fall and die” prayers is the passage that describes how Elijah killed King Ahaziah’s soldiers by commanding physical fire to come out from nowhere and consume them.

(2Ki 1:9) Then the king sent to him a captain of fifty with his fifty men; and he went up to him where he was seated on the top of a hill, and said to him, O man of God, the king has said, Come down.

(2Ki 1:10) And Elijah in answer said to the captain of fifty, If I am a man of God, may fire come down from heaven on you and on your fifty men, and put an end to you. Then fire came down from heaven and put an end to him and his fifty men.

(2Ki 1:11) Then the king sent another captain of fifty with his fifty men; and he said to Elijah, O man of God, the king says, Come down quickly.

(2Ki 1:12) And Elijah in answer said, If I am a man of God, may fire come down from heaven on you and on your fifty men, and put an end to you. And the fire of God came down from heaven, and put an end to him and his fifty men.


What most people do not know is that although fire actually appeared and destroyed those soldiers, it wasn’t God’s best. God was never pleased with it. He is never pleased with the death of the wicked.

(Eze 18:23) Have I any pleasure at all that the wicked should die? saith the Lord GOD: and not that he should return from his ways, and live?

(Eze 18:32) For I have no pleasure in the death of him that dieth, saith the Lord GOD: wherefore turn yourselves, and live ye.


Under the dispensation that Elijah lived in, the knowledge of God and His modules operandi was very very limited. So folks in those days said and did things according to their level of knowledge that were contrary to what God would have them do.

This was part of the reason God became flesh in His Son Jesus to give us a perfect representation of His true nature, will and character. Ending an era of attributing evil, death and destruction to Him. This is so clear in that in the face of the strongest opposition Jesus never killed but healed and restored life to His enemies.

(Heb 1:1) God, who at sundry times and in divers manners spake in time past unto the fathers by the prophets,

(Heb 1:2) Hath in these last days spoken unto us by his Son, whom he hath appointed heir of all things, by whom also he made the worlds;

(Heb 1:3) Who being the brightness of his glory, and the express image of his person, and upholding all things by the word of his power, when he had by himself purged our sins, sat down on the right hand of the Majesty on high;


So in Christ’s dealing with man, we see the true nature of God. In His words, Jesus puts it this way.

(Joh 10:10) The thief cometh not, but for to steal, and to kill, and to destroy: I am come that they might have life, and that they might have it more abundantly.

Just a little while after those words, He set out with His disciples to Jerusalem for a preaching engagement and the Samaritans would not allow Him pass through their city because they were not at peace with the Jews.

When His disciple saw what was happening, they got so upset they wanted to call down fire to consume the Samaritans who were their enemies and enemies of the Gospel at that moment. But what did Jesus do? Let’s see it together from the scriptures.

(Luk 9:51) And it came to pass, when the time was come that he should be received up, he stedfastly set his face to go to Jerusalem,

(Luk 9:52) And sent messengers before his face: and they went, and entered into a village of the Samaritans, to make ready for him.

(Luk 9:53) And they did not receive him, because his face was as though he would go to Jerusalem.

(Luk 9:54) And when his disciples James and John saw this, they said, Lord, wilt thou that we command fire to come down from heaven, and consume them, even as Elias did?

(Luk 9:55) But he turned, and rebuked them, and said, Ye know not what manner of spirit ye are of.

(Luk 9:56) For the Son of man is not come to destroy men's lives, but to save them. And they went to another village.


Verse 55 said Jesus REBUKED them for even having that thought alone. The word “rebuked” in that verse is not like when you softly tell your son, “Son don’t do this again.” No, it’s a very strong word. It is used almost the same way it is used to say Jesus rebuked demons. Very strongly.

He was very serious about them not imitating Elijah in this manner at all. And in verse 56 we see His reasons clearly.

(Luk 9:56) For the Son of man is not come to destroy men's lives, but to save them….

In praying for those in authority and for all men in general, Paul gives us a guideline.

(1Ti 2:1) I exhort therefore, that, first of all, supplications, prayers, intercessions, and giving of thanks, be made for all men;

(1Ti 2:2) For kings, and for all that are in authority; that we may lead a quiet and peaceable life in all godliness and honesty.

(1Ti 2:3) For this is good and acceptable in the sight of God our Saviour;

(1Ti 2:4) Who will have all men to be saved, and to come unto the knowledge of the truth.


God would have all men (including your village people. LOL) to be saved and to come to the knowledge of the Truth. He doesn’t want anyone perishing.

Some say it is not the human beings they are praying to die but the evil spirits behind their wickedness. Like seriously? Spirits don’t die! Even if they do, it is not within your authority biblically to kill them. Only God can and that’s why He made Hell, their place of eternal death.

The Bible said believers should cast them out, not kill them in the name of Jesus.

(Mar 16:17) And these signs shall follow them that believe; In my name shall they cast out devils; they shall speak with new tongues;

Be humble and remain within the confines of the scriptures and stop making Christianity look like a joke with those extra Biblical practices or those not permitted for the man in Christ today.

I hope this blesses you.

Glory to God!


Source: https://www.feedmejesus.com/2019/03/fall-and-die-prayers.html





OP you have not been visit, we will soon visit you

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Re: Why It Is Never Right For You To Pray That Your Enemies Fall And Die Today by yuanexchanger: 7:14am On Mar 17, 2019
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Re: Why It Is Never Right For You To Pray That Your Enemies Fall And Die Today by Truefaith: 7:14am On Mar 17, 2019
Thanks to the person who posted this.

But the issue is a little deeper than the analysis presented here.

It is not African or Nigerian: it is human, world-wide.

One of the clearest tell-tale signs that a man is not born again is that he demands retribution on those that offend him.


The story in Matthew 18:21-35 makes this very plain.

For the benefit of those who are not familiar with the Bible here it is:

Mat 18:21 Then came Peter to him, and said, Lord, how oft shall my brother sin against me, and I forgive him? till seven times?
Mat 18:22 Jesus saith unto him, I say not unto thee, Until seven times: but, Until seventy times seven.
Mat 18:23 Therefore is the kingdom of heaven likened unto a certain king, which would take account of his servants.
Mat 18:24 And when he had begun to reckon, one was brought unto him, which owed him ten thousand talents.
Mat 18:25 But forasmuch as he had not to pay, his lord commanded him to be sold, and his wife, and children, and all that he had, and payment to be made.
Mat 18:26 The servant therefore fell down, and worshipped him, saying, Lord, have patience with me, and I will pay thee all.
Mat 18:27 Then the lord of that servant was moved with compassion, and loosed him, and forgave him the debt.
Mat 18:28 But the same servant went out, and found one of his fellowservants, which owed him an hundred pence: and he laid hands on him, and took him by the throat, saying, Pay me that thou owest.
Mat 18:29 And his fellowservant fell down at his feet, and besought him, saying, Have patience with me, and I will pay thee all.
Mat 18:30 And he would not: but went and cast him into prison, till he should pay the debt.
Mat 18:31 So when his fellowservants saw what was done, they were very sorry, and came and told unto their lord all that was done.
Mat 18:32 Then his lord, after that he had called him, said unto him, O thou wicked servant, I forgave thee all that debt, because thou desiredst me:
Mat 18:33 Shouldest not thou also have had compassion on thy fellowservant, even as I had pity on thee?
Mat 18:34 And his lord was wroth, and delivered him to the tormentors, till he should pay all that was due unto him.
Mat 18:35 So likewise shall my heavenly Father do also unto you, if ye from your hearts forgive not every one his brother their trespasses.


Until a man grasps the enormity of the depth and gravity of the consequences of his own sins against God, he does not see the smallness of the sins of his fellowmen against him.



Everyone praying for the death or destruction of those that offend him HAS NOT KNOWN GOD


All so-called 'Churches' preaching such doctrines have no connections whatsoever to the Lord Jesus Christ.


https://www.thetruechristianfaith.com/2016/09/11/the-mountain-of-fire-and-miracles-the-sermon-from-the-serpent/

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Re: Why It Is Never Right For You To Pray That Your Enemies Fall And Die Today by chiommy123(f): 7:15am On Mar 17, 2019
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AND THE ALL WISE GOD IS SUPPOSED TO LISTEN TO YOU WHEN YOU "ORDER" HIM TO KILL OTHER PEOPLE? undecided
my dear I don't own you any explanation how I make my prayers but I know my destiny is too hot for principalities and powers in whatever form or shape

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Re: Why It Is Never Right For You To Pray That Your Enemies Fall And Die Today by Emmanuel226(m): 7:17am On Mar 17, 2019
Accident and calamities plus death fall on anybody wey say nairalanders no go attend tertiary institution, graduate, come get better work. grin
like if u are with me cheesy

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Re: Why It Is Never Right For You To Pray That Your Enemies Fall And Die Today by Fsekillmonger: 7:19am On Mar 17, 2019
Well for the op to say God reluctantly sent down ordered by his prophet and was not happy to do so...heck..pls what part of the bible revealed that to him or has he become the personal advisor on God's interaction with old testament prophets to know this?so he also reluctantly sent down fire on the prophets of Baal?
Your just adding conjecture to scriptures based on you human understanding and sentiments.The only thing God ever complained He grieved of was making Man in the first place..my advise do not teach from humsentiments if the bible did not experessely say so do not infer from your view point that it was wrong for Elijah to call down fire.
In Finality any proponent of spiritual war fare knows fall down and die prayer points are targeted towards powers and principalities..e.g.. any power causing this or that..and that means to lose thier hold over you or stop that operation in that area of your life...not humans

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Re: Why It Is Never Right For You To Pray That Your Enemies Fall And Die Today by CAPSLOCKED: 7:22am On Mar 17, 2019
chiommy123:
my dear I don't own you any explanation how I make my prayers but I know my destiny is too hot for principalities and powers in whatever form or shape

NO DON'T CALL ME THAT, YOU'RE DELUSIONAL.

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Re: Why It Is Never Right For You To Pray That Your Enemies Fall And Die Today by elonize(m): 7:23am On Mar 17, 2019
johnmattew:
the biggest Reason why I stopped going to church...and prosperity gospel too.nigerian doctrines make one look like a dumb illiterate

they have forgotten that we are our biggest Enemies,not our village people,friend or families.....it's really sad that RCCG is part of the 'our enemies must die' doctrine.they gave successfully mixed Africanism with Christianity..I really respect the likes of TB Joshua that will never preach this kind of Nigerian Christianity doctrines
u tink say na person u dey do if U nor dey go church,n.a. d prayers of ur parents n loved once dey c u tru, ask ppo how e b
abi N.a. lie
Re: Why It Is Never Right For You To Pray That Your Enemies Fall And Die Today by chiommy123(f): 7:28am On Mar 17, 2019
CAPSLOCKED:


NO DON'T CALL ME THAT, YOU'RE DELUSIONAL.
sorry sir

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Re: Why It Is Never Right For You To Pray That Your Enemies Fall And Die Today by CosmicPhoenix: 7:29am On Mar 17, 2019
what do they do with people destiny?

chiommy123:
Op I used to think like you until they opened my eyes. You don't know what they do with peoples destiny these days.

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Re: Why It Is Never Right For You To Pray That Your Enemies Fall And Die Today by somehow: 7:32am On Mar 17, 2019
The OP actually think most "church goers" in Nigeria are Christians?

You want them to remove what people use to excuse themselves from failures?

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Re: Why It Is Never Right For You To Pray That Your Enemies Fall And Die Today by immantoks: 7:35am On Mar 17, 2019
CodeTemplar:
So what of the unrepentant ones? Strange doctrines.
with the detailed explanation of what he wrote u still called this truth strange doctrine? keep wallowing in ignorance born out of laziness to study and understand the Scripture.

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Re: Why It Is Never Right For You To Pray That Your Enemies Fall And Die Today by chiommy123(f): 7:35am On Mar 17, 2019
CosmicPhoenix:
what do they do with people destiny?

you don't even want to know just keep praying for yourself and loved ones. We're in serious battle
Re: Why It Is Never Right For You To Pray That Your Enemies Fall And Die Today by Nobody: 7:38am On Mar 17, 2019
chiommy123:
Op I used to think like you until they opened my eyes. You don't know what they do with peoples destiny these days.
This world is wicked

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Re: Why It Is Never Right For You To Pray That Your Enemies Fall And Die Today by udemzyudex(m): 7:42am On Mar 17, 2019
Rubbish post. angry
Re: Why It Is Never Right For You To Pray That Your Enemies Fall And Die Today by Forreellinc: 7:42am On Mar 17, 2019
Bullish!t I want my enemies to fall and die in my presence so I can piss on their heads
Re: Why It Is Never Right For You To Pray That Your Enemies Fall And Die Today by Nobody: 7:43am On Mar 17, 2019
Warfare and Wordfare are two different things.

I don’t waste time over these kind of preacher.
Mob: You can leave yourself for the enemy to kill then you can find yourself to blame if you are kill by your enemies.

The Bible recorded that even the heaven suffer violence and the violence do what?

Mob Answer my question.

Note: Religious war should be Shun. No one can avenge for God.

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Re: Why It Is Never Right For You To Pray That Your Enemies Fall And Die Today by akdjr(m): 7:49am On Mar 17, 2019
Who else believe say bible has nothing to do with God but was written out of human imagination just like every other books.

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Re: Why It Is Never Right For You To Pray That Your Enemies Fall And Die Today by jrusky(m): 7:50am On Mar 17, 2019
Ok bro if you like pray for your enemy to keep living and by the time he or she finish with you that heaven you won't still make it then you will get the message in hard way.

With the way village people are so wicked, no mercy, ready to destroy beyond repair and you are still there saying no need for them to die bro? Ok nah it's like your parent are still feeding you so you ain't understand what the world is saying I pray village people never tourch it's then you will understand wella.

Remember it's same bible that says no peace for the wicked. The same bible that say witch must NOT live. It's same bible that destroyed the Egyptian in the red sea. The same bible that wrote Modecai and Hamman etc bro use your brain to understand bible then you are safe.

Religion without common sense it's a pure wasting of time.

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Re: Why It Is Never Right For You To Pray That Your Enemies Fall And Die Today by Jobabori(m): 7:50am On Mar 17, 2019
If you are not a witch/wizard or so called village people, why do you think others are?. Do you have enough time for your own struggling and hustling?. Why do you think others would abandon their own hustling and struggling to concentrate on your destruction?. I am not saying there are no wicked people, but to suspect your neighbors, family members, in-laws and so on as the one specifically responsible or likely to be responsible for your problems or perceived problems is a kind of wickedness from your part. You are gradually becoming a witch/ wizard that you are praying against.

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Re: Why It Is Never Right For You To Pray That Your Enemies Fall And Die Today by MacMkboy(m): 7:52am On Mar 17, 2019
Op, E Be Lyk Say Trouble Neva Jam U B4? The Day U Or Ur Children Go Collect, Dat Day Na Im U Go Learn Say Destiny Matter No Dey For Bargaining. Abeg Keep Ur Opinion Concerning Spiritual Matter To Yourself Since You Are Either Uninformed, Less Informed Or Wrongly Informed In This Area. Some Nigerians Bad Die! Na Only Person Wey Dem Don Knack Go Understand.

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Re: Why It Is Never Right For You To Pray That Your Enemies Fall And Die Today by Ruddyman(m): 7:52am On Mar 17, 2019
We wrestler not against fresh and blood but against principalities and powers , rulers of darkness in higher places....

Its not the persons they pray against, but the powers behind them

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Re: Why It Is Never Right For You To Pray That Your Enemies Fall And Die Today by CosmicPhoenix: 7:54am On Mar 17, 2019
i want to know,so i can know the kind of prayer to fire at the enemies grin

chiommy123:
you don't even want to know just keep praying for yourself and loved ones. We're in serious battle
Re: Why It Is Never Right For You To Pray That Your Enemies Fall And Die Today by Phon1x: 7:57am On Mar 17, 2019
MacMkboy:
Op, E Be Lyk Say Trouble Neva Jam U B4? The Day U Or Ur Children Go Collect, Dat Day Na Im U Go Learn Say Destiny Matter No Dey For Bargaining. Abeg Keep Ur Opinion Concerning Spiritual Matter To Yourself Since You Are Either Uninformed, Less Informed Or Wrongly Informed In This Area. Some Nigerians Bad Die! Na Only Person Wey Dem Don Knack Go Understand.

Hahahaha..them say who never go..no go know.

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Re: Why It Is Never Right For You To Pray That Your Enemies Fall And Die Today by poseidon12: 7:57am On Mar 17, 2019
lionness:
My enemies MUsT die!!!!!

Who are your enemies?

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Re: Why It Is Never Right For You To Pray That Your Enemies Fall And Die Today by kingBenedict: 7:59am On Mar 17, 2019
Enemies no dey finish... I will kill them if I see them...

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