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Re: Will It Be Moral To Make Clones For Organ Harvesting? by budaatum: 12:27am On Mar 21, 2019 |
johnydon22:Feeling slight anger does not sufficiently describe how I feel when people with highly developed minds deprive me of a learning opportunity. There's way more ignorance floating around for me to feel slight anger and annoyed. Frustrated better describes how I felt. Frustrated that a person with a capable mind might be adding to that ignorance as opposed to diminishing it. I hold you in very high esteem johnydon22 and I'm very very frustrated that you don't appear to know this. |
Re: Will It Be Moral To Make Clones For Organ Harvesting? by QuietHammer(m): 8:23am On Mar 21, 2019 |
Geofavor:Your clone can't be of the same age as you 1 Like |
Re: Will It Be Moral To Make Clones For Organ Harvesting? by ABCthings: 3:16pm On Mar 21, 2019 |
budaatum:So how does this relate to Clones? |
Re: Will It Be Moral To Make Clones For Organ Harvesting? by budaatum: 3:26pm On Mar 21, 2019 |
ABCthings:When I think clone, I do not think liquid in a petri dish but something very close to a full grown human being. Op did say my clone did have a mind. Killing my clone would be like killing a human being. In fact, it might be worse than killing another human being, now that I think of it! I am of the assumption a clone of me would look like me, be like me and very almost be me. Killing my clone might feel like killing myself! Or at least a very close relative, don't you think? |
Re: Will It Be Moral To Make Clones For Organ Harvesting? by ABCthings: 3:37pm On Mar 21, 2019 |
budaatum:Yep! and the creation of clones itself is unneccesary, they are prone to psychological trauma(feeling inferior) but wait! what if they are pseudo-humans will killing them still be wrong? |
Re: Will It Be Moral To Make Clones For Organ Harvesting? by budaatum: 3:38pm On Mar 21, 2019 |
ABCthings:What would a pseudo-human be? Describe it please. |
Re: Will It Be Moral To Make Clones For Organ Harvesting? by ABCthings: 3:55pm On Mar 21, 2019 |
budaatum:;DPseudo-false that is we wouldn't consider them as humans rather be ordinary replica like china-made carbon-copies. |
Re: Will It Be Moral To Make Clones For Organ Harvesting? by ABCthings: 3:55pm On Mar 21, 2019 |
budaatum:Pseudo-false that is we wouldn't consider them as humans rather be ordinary replica like china-made, carbon-copies. |
Re: Will It Be Moral To Make Clones For Organ Harvesting? by budaatum: 4:34pm On Mar 21, 2019 |
ABCthings:We? If they stand like a human, walk like a human and talk like a human that's human enough for me. Even if they were chimpanzees, apes or monkeys, I still would balk at killing them! I'm wondering why I don't feel the same about chicken, ants and goats though. |
Re: Will It Be Moral To Make Clones For Organ Harvesting? by ABCthings: 4:44pm On Mar 21, 2019 |
budaatum:Na wa ooo! 1 Like |
Re: Will It Be Moral To Make Clones For Organ Harvesting? by Shepherd00: 5:14pm On Mar 21, 2019 |
budaatum:Buda have you seen this movie? 'The Island' |
Re: Will It Be Moral To Make Clones For Organ Harvesting? by budaatum: 5:21pm On Mar 21, 2019 |
Shepherd00:Afraid not. Tell me about it. |
Re: Will It Be Moral To Make Clones For Organ Harvesting? by Shepherd00: 6:03pm On Mar 21, 2019 |
budaatum:It's exactly what the OP said. Just Google it and read the preview. |
Re: Will It Be Moral To Make Clones For Organ Harvesting? by Shepherd00: 6:19pm On Mar 21, 2019 |
johnydon22:Which One? |
Re: Will It Be Moral To Make Clones For Organ Harvesting? by Shepherd00: 6:25pm On Mar 21, 2019 |
budaatum:Bad mouth.lol. 1 Like 1 Share |
Re: Will It Be Moral To Make Clones For Organ Harvesting? by frank317: 7:11am On Mar 22, 2019 |
johnydon22: Would u love to be killed? @op... I go with Hardmirror and Lordreed's view on the topic 1 Like |
Re: Will It Be Moral To Make Clones For Organ Harvesting? by frank317: 7:15am On Mar 22, 2019 |
johnydon22: Agreed |
Re: Will It Be Moral To Make Clones For Organ Harvesting? by frank317: 7:26am On Mar 22, 2019 |
budaatum: Thumbs up Buda. Nicely put 2 Likes |
Re: Will It Be Moral To Make Clones For Organ Harvesting? by frank317: 7:32am On Mar 22, 2019 |
johnydon22:It is sir. So? Should we pretend there are no Christians in Both Nigeria and UK that think homosexuals are not going to hell? If so, doesn't that describe morality the way Buda did? Why? I think he has explained why killing is wrong (to him), you just don't agree, which of course u also have the right not to. 1 Like |
Re: Will It Be Moral To Make Clones For Organ Harvesting? by frank317: 7:34am On Mar 22, 2019 |
budaatum: I think he is losing it 1 Like |
Re: Will It Be Moral To Make Clones For Organ Harvesting? by frank317: 7:52am On Mar 22, 2019 |
johnydon22: And you forget that intersubjective believe starts with one person? 1 Like |
Re: Will It Be Moral To Make Clones For Organ Harvesting? by johnydon22(m): 9:52am On Mar 22, 2019 |
frank317: Again whether i like to be killed or not is not a pointer to the morality of killing. WTF! |
Re: Will It Be Moral To Make Clones For Organ Harvesting? by johnydon22(m): 9:54am On Mar 22, 2019 |
frank317:Of course i am, sometimes it is frustrating spoon feeding people things you'd expect they know. And i know my arguments have become more intricate than they use to be, they no longer echo your beliefs intoto they in fact make you question them and think harder, i understand the discomfort |
Re: Will It Be Moral To Make Clones For Organ Harvesting? by johnydon22(m): 10:02am On Mar 22, 2019 |
frank317:The effective moral belief must be pravelent, the thoughts of a minority do not affect an intersubjective imagined order (It is not up to lone individual convictions) I'm pretty sure in Nigeria today, they are people who lack a belief in Nigeria but rather believes in Biafra or some that believe in the idea of Odua. Does this validate this belief? Not at all. Does it invalidate Nigeria? Nope. But once we all agree either by coercion or volition that these entities exist independently, they do so. Reaching a moral conclusions without first outlining a derivative basis is in fact puerile like a theist saying 'God did it' without outlying how that conclusion is reached No actually, there wasn't any basis. Postulation; killing is wrong. Question; Killing an ant or a human Answer: Human. Question: why? Answer: because it deprives people of what's theirs Question; why is depriving people of their thing wrong? Answer; would you like to be killed? Tell me your address Question; Whether i like it or not isn't a moral weight. Again i ask, why is depriving people their thing wrong? Answer; just tell me where you live. See? This is pretty much how the whole thing is going. The postulation is a moral conclusion and he still tries to give weight to this moral conclusion using another moral conclusion. Lol. Moral basis isn't another action, it is a fundamental belief on the subject not an action. Men!!! This is tiring |
Re: Will It Be Moral To Make Clones For Organ Harvesting? by budaatum: 10:11am On Mar 22, 2019 |
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Re: Will It Be Moral To Make Clones For Organ Harvesting? by johnydon22(m): 10:12am On Mar 22, 2019 |
frank317:An imagined order doesn't become effective until it is held as a fundamental framework for the majority within the clime. Nigeria for example doesn't objectively exist, it exists because we believe it does. Value in money doesn't exist objectively, it is valuable only because we believe it is. If Frank wakes up tomorrow and insist Nigerian naira is worth nothing, this is Frank's subjective belief, it doesn't really change or affect anything unless the whole of Nigeria adopts this belief in which case it becomes intersubjective. This is how imagined orders work. |
Re: Will It Be Moral To Make Clones For Organ Harvesting? by johnydon22(m): 10:12am On Mar 22, 2019 |
budaatum:Troll someone else |
Re: Will It Be Moral To Make Clones For Organ Harvesting? by budaatum: 10:18am On Mar 22, 2019 |
johnydon22:Nope thank you. I'm not tired. Besides, you never marked my homework! Whassup? 1 Like |
Re: Will It Be Moral To Make Clones For Organ Harvesting? by budaatum: 10:23am On Mar 22, 2019 |
johnydon22:Really? So I can believe Nigeria does not exist and Nigeria will stop existing just like that? Methinks you imagine! 1 Like |
Re: Will It Be Moral To Make Clones For Organ Harvesting? by johnydon22(m): 10:27am On Mar 22, 2019 |
budaatum:Are you serious with this? Or just trolling? Because the explanation is right there on the same post you quoted. Tell me if you are being serious? |
Re: Will It Be Moral To Make Clones For Organ Harvesting? by budaatum: 10:38am On Mar 22, 2019 |
johnydon22:If you believe but don't go and officially change the name of the country where would planes taking off in foreign lands land when they say they are going to Nigeria? Or do they too need to share this your believing in the imaginary with you? Believing the crap in your head has no effect on reality! What you all believe is irrelevant unless you act on that believe! 1 Like |
Re: Will It Be Moral To Make Clones For Organ Harvesting? by budaatum: 10:39am On Mar 22, 2019 |
Seroous is buda's disease! |
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