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Re: APC To Oyegun: You Lacked Oshiomhole’s Courage To Face Saraki, Dogara, Others by fredoooooo: 4:01pm On Jun 04, 2019
Baba God is not man , without you APC won presidential election.. with you I'm sure it would have been the other way round ... grin
Re: APC To Oyegun: You Lacked Oshiomhole’s Courage To Face Saraki, Dogara, Others by chrisxxx(m): 4:02pm On Jun 04, 2019
Oyegun would have tactically pacified, caged and tamed Saraki and Dogara without self inflicting damages like Oshiomole did. See APC today.

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Re: APC To Oyegun: You Lacked Oshiomhole’s Courage To Face Saraki, Dogara, Others by stormborn28(m): 4:04pm On Jun 04, 2019
Opportuneke:
What a pity...



Politics, a very dirt business.....


Can you just imagine how a father, uncle, husband, and a brother was just ridiculed all in the name of politics?

what a shame...
Omoruku...
Re: APC To Oyegun: You Lacked Oshiomhole’s Courage To Face Saraki, Dogara, Others by Maket: 4:06pm On Jun 04, 2019
True talk.
My Dad said so too.
Re: APC To Oyegun: You Lacked Oshiomhole’s Courage To Face Saraki, Dogara, Others by kernel01: 4:08pm On Jun 04, 2019
Babacele:
True talk. Oyegun is shameless ,and still pained that he was booted for Oshiomole to come clear the mess he left behind in APC. And cleared the mess would be ,no matter how pained the Oyegun's of this world are. If not the indiscipline with which Oyegun 'nurtured' the party, why won't political tin gods with PDP mentality in APC sabotage the party for their selfish interests?

What did Oshiomole do? He couldn't do a thing to Saraki, but barking. He lost more states under his watch.

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Re: APC To Oyegun: You Lacked Oshiomhole’s Courage To Face Saraki, Dogara, Others by chibaby1985(f): 4:09pm On Jun 04, 2019
Re: APC To Oyegun: You Lacked Oshiomhole’s Courage To Face Saraki, Dogara, Others by wink2015(m): 4:10pm On Jun 04, 2019
bellachibaby:
he All Progressives Congress (APC) has mocked former National Chairman, John Oyegun, saying he and the National Working Committee he led as National Chairman lacked the courage required to confront the pockets of political despots who could not operate by the party’s rules. The party cited the National Assembly saga in 2015 that saw the emergence of Bukola Saraki as Senate President and Yakubu Dogara as Speaker against party wishes, while Oyegun could not do anything about it till he left office.

PC National Publicity Secretary, Mallam Lanre Issa-Onilu, in an interview with journalists, spoke in reaction to Oyegun’s comments that incumbent chairman, Adams Oshiomhole, was leading the party using “agbero” (tout) style.

The resultant effect, he said, was widespread indiscipline across party ranks, lack of respect for party supremacy as witnessed in the 8th National Assembly leadership and its overall inability to align the varying interests of the legacy parties that came together to form the APC in 2014.

“Let me agree that the NWC that led the party into the 2015 elections and continued till June 2018 did nothing different from what you would find in PDP.

“It was a period the party was seen as a mere vehicle to attain political office. The system accommodated impunity as certain members appeared to be superior to the party.

“Their interests were far more important than the collective interests of the APC, even when most times such interests are at variance with the ideals the party stand for.

“You would recall that it was under that leadership that some impudent members of APC called the bluff of the party by imposing themselves on the National Assembly as leaders contrary to the position of the party. Where was the party?

“Where was the discipline when this happened? It would be difficult to calculate what lack of courage to assert the party supremacy cost APC over that period.

“The consequences of the inaction of the party were unimaginable. We all saw the consequences on governance as the National assembly practically held our government to ransom.

“The impunity, which President Muhammadu Buhari has rightly described as lack of patriotism, constituted an unfortunate hindrance to the smooth running of government.

“The leadership under Chief Oyegun, with due respect to him, condoned all sorts of acts of indiscipline from certain members. It is not surprising that the current National Working Committee inherited such a huge mess, where the party was struggling to differentiate itself from the delinquent PDP. Read full statements here
https://thickmatch.com/lacked-oshiomholes-courage-face-saraki-dogara-despots-apc/

APC SYCOPHANT AND THEIR SYMPATHIZER ARE PRAISING OSHIOMOLE.

UNFORTUNATELY OSHIOMOLE CREATED ENEMY HERE AND THERE FOR HIMSELF UNLIKE OYEGUN WHO ONLY HAD A BEEF WITH TINUBU.

The likes of Owelle Rochas Okorocha and Ibikunle Amosun are coming for their pound of flesh from Oshiomole.
Re: APC To Oyegun: You Lacked Oshiomhole’s Courage To Face Saraki, Dogara, Others by cornoil(m): 4:19pm On Jun 04, 2019
Became Nairaland member a day ago. Hmmmn

Ikpeazukerosene:
Chai, Oyegun has suffered.

I wonder how is children would view him looking at how they have exposed his unclothedness like a peeled banana.

The truth is that Oyegun was collecting money from a lot of party bigwigs and that's why the bearded coward couldn't correct them when the occasion demanded. In fact, he was surreptitiously working for Saraki against Buhari.

With Oyegun as Apc chairman, Buhari would have lost that election.

Did you guys notice that when Oyegun was Chairman, people were decamping out of APC but once Oshiomhole came in, everything stopped.
Re: APC To Oyegun: You Lacked Oshiomhole’s Courage To Face Saraki, Dogara, Others by SirBunky85(m): 4:20pm On Jun 04, 2019
Esseite:
So what has oshomole done differently or better than Oyegun...

Losing more states?
what's ur concern in APC issues?
Re: APC To Oyegun: You Lacked Oshiomhole’s Courage To Face Saraki, Dogara, Others by JKisOK(m): 4:20pm On Jun 04, 2019
Even PMB had nothing against Oyegun. No one can forget that he gave PMB victory in 2015. Primarily, his issue was with Bola Tinubu. His tenure cut Tinubu to size and saw the elevation of Fashola and the Abuja clique in Lagos State.

Even Oshiomhole has been unable to clip the wings of Saraki and Dogara. And yes, the tenure of Oshiomhole did see the exodus of bigwigs from the party. Atiku and Saraki and Dogara ARE cases in point. Today, the party is more divided than ever. It has fewer states and Senators than Oyegun handed over.

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Re: APC To Oyegun: You Lacked Oshiomhole’s Courage To Face Saraki, Dogara, Others by DeRay98(m): 4:22pm On Jun 04, 2019
chrisxxx:
Oyegun would have tactically pacified, caged and tamed Saraki and Dogara without self inflicting damages like Oshiomole did. See APC today.

Really? How? When he was helpless and toothless while Saraki and Dogara ran wild like rabies infested god?
Re: APC To Oyegun: You Lacked Oshiomhole’s Courage To Face Saraki, Dogara, Others by Phred1717: 4:23pm On Jun 04, 2019
Why go to a place when you know that you are going to lose... Prevention is better than cure
Re: APC To Oyegun: You Lacked Oshiomhole’s Courage To Face Saraki, Dogara, Others by omooajisnooni: 4:29pm On Jun 04, 2019
Wetin concern me self?
Re: APC To Oyegun: You Lacked Oshiomhole’s Courage To Face Saraki, Dogara, Others by DrKKK1(m): 4:29pm On Jun 04, 2019
With the Oshiomoles comando's style, there may never be a party to instill his so called discipline in the future elections. The two styles are extreme, and they come with dare consequences, but the military-like draconian approach employed by oshomole kills faster. He forgot we are in democracy. Oyegun and Oshiomole were driving by interest, the former was motivated by bribe while the latter is killing the party mainly to satisfy his ego.
Re: APC To Oyegun: You Lacked Oshiomhole’s Courage To Face Saraki, Dogara, Others by bluefilm: 4:31pm On Jun 04, 2019
Babacele:
True talk. Oyegun is shameless ,and still pained that he was booted for Oshiomole to come clear the mess he left behind in APC. And cleared the mess would be ,no matter how pained the Oyegun's of this world are. If not the indiscipline with which Oyegun 'nurtured' the party, why won't political tin gods with PDP mentality in APC sabotage the party for their selfish interests?

You are right.

Oyegun is not an action man like Osho baba.

Osho baba alone was enough to make Okorocha lose his already well-planned dynasty in Imo.

Osho baba was just too hot for Saraki and his fellow decampees.

Osho baba is a no nonsense politician.

Quite unlike Oyegun.

Oyegun seems to me more like a pacifier who would rather not want to hurt anybody.

But that is the recipe for disaster, most especially when you are dealing with our brand of unscrupulous politicians.

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Re: APC To Oyegun: You Lacked Oshiomhole’s Courage To Face Saraki, Dogara, Others by kenzosky: 4:32pm On Jun 04, 2019
mustwork:


So oshiomole is the Saint right...I laugh in pigin
I'm not saying Oshiomhole is a SAINT, Nobody is. But i know he gat some conscience and will not accept or condone any act's of indiscipline from any members of APC. Unlike the delinquent PDP leaders and it's members whose own aims is to sell the country and share the money among themselves. I trust Oshiomhole to successfully defend his seat.

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Re: APC To Oyegun: You Lacked Oshiomhole’s Courage To Face Saraki, Dogara, Others by shugabasbn: 4:34pm On Jun 04, 2019
Who still give a damn care of these peoples
Re: APC To Oyegun: You Lacked Oshiomhole’s Courage To Face Saraki, Dogara, Others by DrKKK1(m): 4:34pm On Jun 04, 2019
With the Oshiomoles comando's style, there may never be a party to instill his so called discipline in the future elections. The two styles are extreme, and they come with dare consequences, but the military-like draconian approach employed by oshomole kills faster. He forgot we are in democracy. Oyegun and Oshiomole were driving by interest, the former was motivated by bribe while the latter is killing the party mainly to satisfy his ego. There is need for a balance and strategic approach to party management.

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Re: APC To Oyegun: You Lacked Oshiomhole’s Courage To Face Saraki, Dogara, Others by olajizz01(m): 4:40pm On Jun 04, 2019
The old man should shut up,at least,good work done by oshiomole as a chairman was more than his bad influence,when Oyegun was at the helms,anti party was the order of the day even himself as a chairman then wanted the party to collapse b4 his very eye because of his hatred to his benefactor.
I can bet it with everything that should Oyegun remained chairman of APC until 2019 election, Buhari and APC will lose to PDP,the useless man should shut up and retired in peace.


What happens now was not fault of Oshiomole,but Buhari caused all.
Re: APC To Oyegun: You Lacked Oshiomhole’s Courage To Face Saraki, Dogara, Others by DeRay98(m): 4:48pm On Jun 04, 2019
Riversides2003:
Idiots, they should compare the number of seats won by Oyegun led opposition party in 2015, and Oshiomhole incumbency led APC in 2019 for them to understand who did well, trust me, APC will at the least lose 2 more Governorship seats and several others before the end of this year.

It didn't occur to you that the impunity Oyegun looked away from was drowning the party with wreckless guvnors, errant NASS members, lack of party focus on managing the country successful and delivering their goals to the nation. That the party was sinking helplessly with no one to steer it afloat until Oshiomhole had to deal with powerful visionless guvnors and party members to rescue their from losing the last election in a grand style?
Oshiomhole savaged APC from drowning at expense of facing directionless party members.
In 2015, the whole nation wanted PDP out. That's the tide that blew PDP away and Oyegun's leadership.
APC needs radical sanitization to deal in the next 4yrs or completely forget 2023 when Buhari's strong northern loyalty is no more with them and only Oshiomhole has the radical mentality to confront his wayward party members. These are the ones fighting to remove him so that they can continue as usual.

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Re: APC To Oyegun: You Lacked Oshiomhole’s Courage To Face Saraki, Dogara, Others by Babacele: 4:49pm On Jun 04, 2019
kernel01:


What did Oshiomole do? He couldn't do a thing to Saraki, but barking. He lost more states under his watch.
if allowing democratic process to take its course means loosing ,so be it. kwara ,Gombe, Ekiti etc in APC kitty don't you forget.
Re: APC To Oyegun: You Lacked Oshiomhole’s Courage To Face Saraki, Dogara, Others by Austino50: 4:54pm On Jun 04, 2019
Oyegun was a waste of time, he scattered the party Chief. Tom Ikimi built with his inability to act like Jonathan did
Re: APC To Oyegun: You Lacked Oshiomhole’s Courage To Face Saraki, Dogara, Others by kernel01: 4:55pm On Jun 04, 2019
Babacele:
if allowing democratic process to take its course means loosing ,so be it. kwara ,Gombe, Ekiti etc in APC kitty don't you forget.


Look... I will rather have Oregun rule over a people, he knows you don't win every war with bombs and guns. Things didn't explode till the emergency of Oshiomole.

Oshiomole isn't democratic, was he not same man who's forcing his party men to vote Lawan and Femi, what's democracy if he wouldn't sell the idea and allow them to make their decisions.
Re: APC To Oyegun: You Lacked Oshiomhole’s Courage To Face Saraki, Dogara, Others by Babacele: 4:56pm On Jun 04, 2019
bluefilm:


You are right.

Oyegun is not an action man like Osho baba.

Osho baba alone was enough to make Okorocha lose his already well-planned dynasty in Imo.

Osho baba was just too hot for Saraki and his fellow decampees.

Osho baba is a no nonsense politician.

Quite unlike Oyegun.

Oyegun seems to me more like a pacifier who would rather not want to hurt anybody.

But that is the recipe for disaster, most especially when you are dealing with our brand of unscrupulous politicians.
correct sir.
Re: APC To Oyegun: You Lacked Oshiomhole’s Courage To Face Saraki, Dogara, Others by Nobody: 4:59pm On Jun 04, 2019
israelmao:
Then his courage against Dogara and Saraki produced what?

Where is Saraki now?
And watch where Dogara will be seated in the 9th Assembly

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Re: APC To Oyegun: You Lacked Oshiomhole’s Courage To Face Saraki, Dogara, Others by Nobody: 5:02pm On Jun 04, 2019
JKisOK:
Even PMB had nothing against Oyegun. No one can forget that he gave PMB victory in 2015. Primarily, his issue was with Bola Tinubu. His tenure cut Tinubu to size and saw the elevation of Fashola and the Abuja clique in Lagos State.

Even Oshiomhole has been unable to clip the wings of Saraki and Dogara. And yes, the tenure of Oshiomhole did see the exodus of bigwigs from the party. Atiku and Saraki and Dogara ARE cases in point. Today, the party is more divided than ever. It has fewer states and Senators than Oyegun handed over.


Oyegun gave PMB his victory in 2015? Pls stop commenting on politics
Re: APC To Oyegun: You Lacked Oshiomhole’s Courage To Face Saraki, Dogara, Others by kayusely70(m): 5:03pm On Jun 04, 2019
Oyegun is a weakling who indulged characters like amosun, akeredolu, fayemi, yahaya bello and many others to rubbish the party.
Re: APC To Oyegun: You Lacked Oshiomhole’s Courage To Face Saraki, Dogara, Others by OmoEpe(m): 5:04pm On Jun 04, 2019
israelmao:
Then his courage against Dogara and Saraki produced what?

It sent Saraki to premature political retirement


Is that not good enough?

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Re: APC To Oyegun: You Lacked Oshiomhole’s Courage To Face Saraki, Dogara, Others by Debaiz: 5:08pm On Jun 04, 2019
Ayoefa:
They are both right, Oyegun was unable to rein in crooks like Saraki and Dogara but Oshiomole is really killing the party with his Agbero style. You have to be a tough leader while showing decorum and statesmanship.

Oyetunde handed over a recked ship that people were jumping off on a daily basis.

They might have lost many sits but it was all due to the conflict between discipline of party supremacy of Oshiomole and the impunity of individual ambitions the man(Oyegun) handed over.

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Re: APC To Oyegun: You Lacked Oshiomhole’s Courage To Face Saraki, Dogara, Others by DeRay98(m): 5:08pm On Jun 04, 2019
DrKKK1:
With the Oshiomoles comando's style, there may never be a party to instill his so called discipline in the future elections. The two styles are extreme, and they come with dare consequences, but the military-like draconian approach employed by oshomole kills faster. He forgot we are in democracy. Oyegun and Oshiomole were driving by interest, the former was motivated by bribe while the latter is killing the party mainly to satisfy his ego. There is need for a balance and strategic approach to party management.

This is why Nigeria is the way it is, non implementation of laws and rules because of sentiment.
If you must eliminate cancer from a pat, you must face it squarely with radical treatment and the lots of normal cells die and the whole body suffers along till the cancerous cells are eliminated and the whole body slowly recovers to full if it doesn't die.
Fear of the dying because the radical treatment does give room for the cancer to persist for cancel that Oyegun allowed to grow hence, Oshiomhole must be radical about the cleansing. If he succeeds other members and future members 'll fall in line and they gain credibility for 2023.

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Re: APC To Oyegun: You Lacked Oshiomhole’s Courage To Face Saraki, Dogara, Others by Babacele: 5:11pm On Jun 04, 2019
kernel01:



Look... I will rather have Oregun rule over a people, he knows you don't win every war with bombs and guns. Things didn't explode till the emergency of Oshiomole.

Oshiomole isn't democratic, was he not same man who's forcing his party men to vote Lawan and Femi, what's democracy if he wouldn't sell the idea and allow them to make their decisions.
Oshiomole is doing what any reasonable party captain would do : reign in renegades while appealing to the voice of reason and loyalty . He isn't forcing anybody but you can't ride on the ship of APC and sabotage APC especially when no noble but selfish principles are involved. It is called indiscipline and there are consequences hence we have structure guiding the affairs of a political party. By pedigree and historical exigency , Oshiomole is the best party chairman to emerge in Nigeria in recent times. Didn't he go to beg Ortom when the Benue debacle got out of Oyegun's frail hands; or didn't Oshiomole give the party structure back to ungrateful Okorocha when it had slipped away from his selfish hand only for him to greedily and stubbornly hand over the whole state to PDP ; or who would tolerate an Amosun for sponsoring another party to the chagrin of all sane folks; or you dont know that osho baba has also warned that young thug in kogi that if salaries and pensions are not paid he should forget second term ticket? We can't be complaining about a bad country and at the same time frown at the efforts aimed at reforming it.

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