Atlantico99:
Igboes in Lagos claim they own Lagos, they want to have their Igwes in Lagos, be recognized as idigenes of Lagos, own businesses and properties in Lagos, and demand to hold elective offices in Lagos..

...but a Fulani or hausa man several generations deep as indigenes of plateau are not indigenes, but settlers, simply because their ancestors settled in Jos ages ago.

But Yoruba show them the way out in the last election. Their chest beating was given a thorough beating.

ImmaculateJOE:
North is North whether Hausa, Fulani or Tiv, whether Benue, Plateau or Sokoto.

All I know is that the Holy Book said "FEAR NORTH"

Nobody should quote me, they were the people that killed their true brothers back then.

Even up till today the Northern minority Christians call me "nyamiri banza"(useless Igbo)

Then I hope you can agree that South is south, whether Edo, Yoruba, Ijaw, Igbo, you are all one and the same?

Besides, don't Igbos call even Benue & Kogi people abokiis? These are people who do not even understand a single word of Hausa.

nagoma:


But Kano and Lagos Governments have appointed Igbos and others.Kano had even non indegene as a Governor. Shekarau is from Biu in Borno State. Even the one time Governor Sabo Bakin Zuwo is Of Nupe origin while Tanko Yakasai is Jukun from Taraba. You are simply intolerant and retrogressive in your thinking.

Joe Yorubakwe is not an Igbo man.

He is a yoruba man.

PropertyBase:
There are Yoruba Fulani from Oyo state

where in oyo state

PropertyBase:
There are Yoruba Fulani from Oyo state

where in oyo state

Neoteny:
Who the hell talks about "settler-indigene" in the 21st century?

Igbo's in Lagos claim they own Lagos, they want to have their Igwes in Lagos, be recognized as idigenes of Lagos, own businesses and properties in Lagos, and demand to hold elective offices in Lagos..

...but a Fulani or hausa man several generations deep as indigenes of plateau are not indigenes, but settlers, simply because their ancestors settled in Jos ages ago.

This is why places like Plateau, Taraba, Benue and most of the North Central will forever be backwards, primordial, barbaric, and caught in the ancient past, because they've stubbornly stuck on a clannish and outdated caveman way of life.

When u want to give examples,pls do it correctly.
Igbo's in Lagos don't just settle,they invest heavily and integrate deeply into the community they find themselves,create employment,buy properties,allow intermarriage between the host communities. But this Hausa Fulani,just like the ones in Jos North,are people who came with evil intentions,they herd their cattle indiscriminately, kill and don't intermarry for any reason. They don't and will never buy ur land but to confiscate it using late night invasion strategy taught by their first Sultan called Uthman Dan fodio.
The moment they succeed in applying this strategy,the next thing is to install an Emir and a staff office would be given to him.

This was the historical strategy they used in capturing Illorin in Kwara state and an attempt to further their plan,the Oyo people stopped them till date.
So,if u don't know this Fulani people, u had better rethink it...when it comes to riots,there is no good Fulani. They are all the same people. They see Nigeria as theirs and theirs alone.

Neoteny:
Who the hell talks about "settler-indigene" in the 21st century?

Igboes in Lagos claim they own Lagos, they want to have their Igwes in Lagos, be recognized as idigenes of Lagos, own businesses and properties in Lagos, and demand to hold elective offices in Lagos..

...but a Fulani or hausa man several generations deep as indigenes of plateau are not indigenes, but settlers, simply because their ancestors settled in Jos ages ago.

This is why places like Plateau, Taraba, Benue and most of the North Central will forever be backwards, primordial, barbaric, and caught in the ancient past, because they've stubbornly stuck on a clannish and outdated caveman way of life.

Hausas & fulanis are having problem with middlebelt indigenes because when they settle on our lands, they try to impose their own cultures on us. They do not try to acculturate in the existing culture. This is why they have friction with the indigenes. Why don't Jos indigenes have problems with the hundreds of thousands of Igbos and Yoruba settlers in Jos?

Tell me, are core northernerns doing better than middlebelters in any human development index? Like Education and poverty alleviation?

Hausa are not indigenes of anywhere in the middlebelt including Southern Kaduna, Taraba and even Adamawa. The fact that they are there today doesn't mean we don't know how they got there.

Lastly, no single Hausa fulani man has been in Jos for up to 5 generation. They all started to come during the Tin mining boom in Jos in the 1920s and 1930s. The indigenes have been on the Plateau for thousands of years.

nagoma:


But Kano and Lagos Governments have appointed Igbos and others.Kano had even non indegene as a Governor. Shekarau is from Biu in Borno State. Even the one time Governor Sabo Bakin Zuwo is Of Nupe origin while Tanko Yakasai is Jukun from Taraba. You are simply intolerant and retrogressive in your thinking.

Bakin Zuwo, Shekarau and Yakasai adapted and acculturated in Kano Hausa culture and traditions before they became leaders in those states. But you expect those filthy hausas in Jos who call the indigenes Arne & Kafiri to be accepted in the state? You must be out of your damn mind.

Yes we are retrogressive, but we are still 10x better than you core northernerns who are the poorest and most illiterate group of people in Africa and possibly the entire world.

nagoma:


But Kano and Lagos Governments have appointed Igbos and others.Kano had even non indegene as a Governor. Shekarau is from Biu in Borno State. Even the one time Governor Sabo Bakin Zuwo is Of Nupe origin while Tanko Yakasai is Jukun from Taraba. You are simply intolerant and retrogressive in your thinking.

you are wrong,in the Islamic culture of northern Muslims,where ever one is born he is accepted as an indegene irrespective of where his parents came from,but this is not the case with non Muslim ethnic groups,now going by what you said it means the Muslims should be allowed to impose their culture on others!, that's unacceptable,the igbos n yorubas wouldn't accept it,in fact the igbos n yorubas n most other ethic groups apart from the hausa/fulani are not always interested in claiming indegeneship but the right to live n carry out their endeavors in peace in accordance with the laws of the land,all the so call political appointments you mentioned are purely for political purposes,let those people request to be accepted as indegenes n you will see the results.the hausa/fulani will come to a land, refused to accept n obey the laws of the land as been against their religion,ask to be giving preferencial concession n treatment,n becomes violent where their objectives are not met whereas they wouldn't accept same in their land, this is what is happening in plateau,benue n taraba states, this is even same with Islamic countries.its time a law is made to define indegineship n citizenship in the country if not we shall continue to face all the problems,we can choose to pretend but as long as we fail to confront our problems practically n factually we shall continue to get the bitter repercussions.

I never knew Middlebelt is different and North is different .I never knew that Middlebelts are different Northerners not Hausa Fulanni. I never even knew Hausa is different from Fulanis, LMAO in the EAST all of you seem the same to us ooo chai! We Nigerians are really the most Ignorant about our own country! No wonder the Abokis here be like "I from Jos I no be Hausa" anytime I throw jokes at them but i didn't understand it then cause it was confusing to me OOOO I was like "Jos katsina ,Kano Benue,Kogi ,what's the difference no be Hausa all of una be??" No wonder during the Fulanni rampage Babban Naira that lives in my area kept stressing it that he was "Hausa" not "Fulanni" all of us was like " see this man oo who you dey whine Hausa ,Fulanni no be the same people una be?"

Very useless Lang long

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Neoteny:
Who the hell talks about "settler-indigene" in the 21st century?

Igboes in Lagos claim they own Lagos, they want to have their Igwes in Lagos, be recognized as idigenes of Lagos, own businesses and properties in Lagos, and demand to hold elective offices in Lagos..

...but a Fulani or hausa man several generations deep as indigenes of plateau are not indigenes, but settlers, simply because their ancestors settled in Jos ages ago.

This is why places like Plateau, Taraba, Benue and most of the North Central will forever be backwards, primordial, barbaric, and caught in the ancient past, because they've stubbornly stuck on a clannish and outdated caveman way of life.

Thank God you didn't mention kogi, kogi is good abi

imhotep:

Obidark wants to venerate the kaliphate

Are you drunk? What are you even saying

What baffles me with these pple is that dey say islam is peace, no peace in middle east, dey want sharia but wnt stay in saudi arabia or iraq/iran dey want to stay in america and central europe

Bambambiglo:


Are you drunk? What are you even saying

Are you also a venerator of the kaliphate

Deepthoughts:
you are wrong,in the Islamic culture of northern Muslims,where ever one is born he is accepted as an indegene irrespective of where his parents came from,but this is not the case with non Muslim ethnic groups,now going by what you said it means the Muslims should be allowed to impose their culture on others!, that's unacceptable,the igbos n yorubas wouldn't accept it,in fact the igbos n yorubas n most other ethic groups apart from the hausa/fulani are not always interested in claiming indegeneship but the right to live n carry out their endeavors in peace in accordance with the laws of the land,all the so call political appointments you mentioned are purely for political purposes,let those people request to be accepted as indegenes n you will see the results.the hausa/fulani will come to a land, refused to accept n obey the laws of the land as been against their religion,ask to be giving preferencial concession n treatment,n becomes violent where their objectives are not met whereas they wouldn't accept same in their land, this is what is happening in plateau,benue n taraba states, this is even same with Islamic countries.its time a law is made to define indegineship n citizenship in the country if not we shall continue to face all the problems,we can choose to pretend but as long as we fail to confront our problems practically n factually we shall continue to get the bitter repercussions.

See who is talking about obeying the laws of the land. When Igbos living in Kano are kidnapping hausa Muslim children and selling them as slaves in Onitsha. That is after they forcefully covert them to Christianity and given them Igbo names. Of course you will never see this as evil.

Nowenuse:


Hausas & fulanis are having problem with middlebelt indigenes because when they settle on our lands, they try to impose their own cultures on us. They do not try to acculturate in the existing culture. This is why they have friction with the indigenes. Why don't Jos indigenes have problems with the hundreds of thousands of Igbos and Yoruba settlers in Jos?

Tell me, are core northernerns doing better than middlebelters in any human development index? Like Education and poverty alleviation?

Hausa are not indigenes of anywhere in the middlebelt including Southern Kaduna, Taraba and even Adamawa. The fact that they are there today doesn't mean we don't know how they got there.

Lastly, no single Hausa fulani man has been in Jos for up to 5 generation. They all started to come during the Tin mining boom in Jos in the 1920s and 1930s. The indigenes have been on the Plateau for thousands of years.

How do the fulanis and hausas impose their cultures on anyone?

In Jos the natives do as they've always done, and the hausa and fulanis also go about their business.

The real problem is that the natives are not industrious, enterprising or entrepreneurial. They'd rather maintain a base existence at the fringes of civilized culture, while they gaze in awe and envy at the flourishing hausa-fulani people. This envy breeds hatred, and they project their own decrepitude to the "settlers".

They hate the settlers but they love their language and their names. Almost every native speaks hausa, dress hausa, bear hausa names, and even ignorantly use Arabic words in their hausa sermons....they use "Allah" to refer to the biblical god. They name their kids Musa (Moses), Dauda (David), Ibrahim (Abraham) etc, forgetting these are Arabic variants of the Jewish names.

Why do they do all these?

Because they envy their "settler" neighbors and simultaneously hate that they envy them.

[quote author=nagoma post=83245863][/quote] This is the only incident you can point to after all the years igbos have spent in Kano,the incident itself is controversial,you people keep making this claim n no one has heard from the igbos?,can you dey that your kinsmen the hausa/fulani has done worst things in other people's land?.

imhotep:

Are you also a venerator of the kaliphate

Drunkard

ibechris:






When u want to give examples,pls do it correctly.
Igbo's in Lagos don't just settle,they invest heavily and integrate deeply into the community they find themselves,create employment,buy properties,allow intermarriage between the host communities. But this Hausa Fulani,just like the ones in Jos North,are people who came with evil intentions,they herd their cattle indiscriminately, kill and don't intermarry for any reason. They don't and will never buy ur land but to confiscate it using late night invasion strategy taught by their first Sultan called Uthman Dan fodio.
The moment they succeed in applying this strategy,the next thing is to install an Emir and a staff office would be given to him.

This was the historical strategy they used in capturing Illorin in Kwara state and an attempt to further their plan,the Oyo people stopped them till date.
So,if u don't know this Fulani people, u had better rethink it...when it comes to riots,there is no good Fulani. They are all the same people. They see Nigeria as theirs and theirs alone.

Go around all of Jos north and show us who own the investments. The natives have nothing, they're either too drunk, too broke, or too hateful to do anything enterprising.

It's because of the development of Jos occasioned by the hausas that Jos has become a bone of contention.

If you don't know your history, the hausa were among the very first to settle on Jos during the tin mining era, and they played a crucial role in the development of Jos.

The natives sold off their lands in vast swathes to the new settlers and happily retired to the bushes. Then later their educated political leaders rewrote the narrative into one of settler conquest, hence the claims of "settlers taking over our land" in the modern narrative, which further fuels the hatred of the modern natives.

Go around Jos town and see how little participation the locals have in the development of the town. Contrarily, they helped usher its desecration in a scorched-earth campaign to destroy everything the hausas own in Jos out of pure malice and jealousy.

Now Jos is a mere husk of its former glory because the barbarian natives would rather a desolate Jos than one flourishing on account of "settlers".

Imagine if the local Yoruba populace of Lagos decide igboes should own nothing in Lagos and proceed to burn it all to the ground.

Who loses?

Everyone.

Bambambiglo:


Drunkard

Wetin I do na

MillerJnr:


Thank God you didn't mention kogi, kogi is good abi

How can Kogi be good?

They're cursed with Dino, and Bello and the Audus.....

nagoma:


But Kano and Lagos Governments have appointed Igbos and others.Kano had even non indegene as a Governor. Shekarau is from Biu in Borno State. Even the one time Governor Sabo Bakin Zuwo is Of Nupe origin while Tanko Yakasai is Jukun from Taraba. You are simply intolerant and retrogressive in your thinking.

the guy you quoted is from middle belt. Why do you feel the need to bring Igbo into everything?

Neoteny:



How do the fulanis and hausas impose their cultures on anyone?

In Jos the natives do as they've always done, and the hausa and fulanis also go about their business.

The real problem is that the natives are not industrious, enterprising or entrepreneurial. They'd rather maintain a base existence of the fringes of civilized culture, while they gaze in awe and envy at the flourishing hausa-fulani people. This envy breeds hatred, and they project their own decrepitude to the "settlers".

They hate the sellers but they love their language and their names. Almost every native speaks hausa, dress hausa, bear hausa names, and even ignorantly use Arabic words in their hausa sermons....they use "Allah" to refer to the biblical god. They name their kids Musa (Moses), Dauda (David), Ibrahim (Abraham) etc, forgetting these are Arabic variants of the Jewish names.

Why do they do all these?

Because they envy their "settler" neighbors and simultaneously hate that they envy them.

Hausa language was forced on northern minorities by the colonialists in connivance with Caliphate leaders during the old northern protectorate and old northern region, go and check history.
The Arabic names you are talking about, are they your own Hausa native names?

Besides, if you will notice, our people have stopped answering such names. It is difficult for you to see a Plateau indigene that will have a child today and call him/her, Yusuf, Musa, Saratu or Hauwa. Even exclusive christian names like Habila, Yohanna, Bulus, Luka are on a serious decline.

Are Hausas the only entrepreneurs in Jos? What about the Igbos? How many times have you heard of indigenes fighting with Igbos?

Igbos & Yorubas who were born and brought up in Jos integrate, interract and intermarry with the indigenes, to the extent that if some of them tell you they are Igbos, you will not believe it.

Hausas on the other hand do not mix or interelate with anyone, them form their enclaves and have the audacity to call the indigenes Arne on their own soil.
It's not their fault sha.

Our people may not be entrepreneural, but they go to school and seek a better life. Your Hausa people are littering Jos with almajiris, illiteracy & beggars and you talk about people being jealous of them. Absolute nonsense.

ImmaculateJOE:
North is North whether Hausa, Fulani or Tiv, whether Benue, Plateau or Sokoto.

All I know is that the Holy Book said "FEAR NORTH"

Nobody should quote me, they were the people that killed their true brothers back then.

Even up till today the Northern minority Christians call me "nyamiri banza"(useless Igbo)

Exactly what you are.

MelesZenawi:
Lalong stop tying plateau people down.

They want to be free from the caliphate

speak for yourself. plateau people don't know what they want, excerpt sipping burukutu and chomping on dogs n pigs. if they even had any clue as to what direction they want their common destiny to move, this lalong pygmy won't even smell rayfield for his second tenure. Hands crossed waiting for the emir of jos.

Nowenuse:


Which stupid peace? So peace only comes when Hausa fulani settlers are pleased abi?

Same Hausas that will tell you that Kano is 10 times bigger and better than Jos, why can't they go back to their Kano with their nonsense?

Stop being a hypocrite in your life. There are people of Igbo origin representing Lagos in HOR with nobody complaining but a Hausa-Fualni cannot be appointed a chairman in a state even his great grand father was born in.

imhotep:

Wetin I do na

You be ipob miscreant constituting nuisance for this place.

Go to school or do something meaningful with your time

bigiyaro:
speak for yourself. plateau people don't know what they want, excerpt sipping burukutu and chomping on dogs n pigs. if they even had any clue as to what direction they want their common destiny to move, this lalong pygmy won't even smell rayfield for his second tenure. Hands crossed waiting for the emir of jos.

cc

Nowenuse

He can answer it more than I do.

The same people that will shout IGBO AMAKA.when an Igbo man is appointed in Europe, Asia and d USA will come here to tear lalaong apart.
Tell me which law he break or shut up

That's what happens when you sign up to be APC's bit*ch