MuttleyLaff:
Ford nobi mumu man nau, besides, he tendered apologies, then said he withdrew contesting the suit because he was ignorant as he didn't know his sources were forgeries. So stick to your guns, why considering give nook and others related a try, erhn?

Provide credible proof of his apology

CaveAdullam:
One thing is to cure ignorance but another thing which is the most important is to determine which exact substance that can cure this ignorance?

I have downloaded a copy of the international Jew by Henry Ford, but reading this post just made me have a second thought concerning the book and others related.

Just imagining me trying to clean up my ignorance but at the same time cleaning it up with another ignorance. Ouch!!!

Let me wait for PrecisionFx, if he got some counter claims to this post, then, I will give the book and others related a try.

Thanks.

God bless.

Where is the credible proof of his apology

PrecisionFx:




Where is the credible proof of his apology

Haba oga Precision.

OkCornel please share that post again.

CaveAdullam:
Haba oga Precision.

OkCornel please share that post again.

Lol, don’t mind them. They love to play the ostrich and turn a blind eye to these things.

OkCornel:
The joke of the day is assuming being coloured also means black.


Apparently, either people are too colour blind to know a typical Arab is darker in complexion compared to a typical Caucasian.

However, you can see no one in their reasonable mind claiming Arabs are blacks.

Are Negroes Hamites?

Yes/No please provide a one word answer

The publication of “The International Jew” caused an uproar. In some quarters, such as anti-immigrant and nativist groups, the series confirmed their own beliefs. Others were appalled by the series, published demands for a retraction, removed the paper from public libraries, and promoted a boycott of Ford automobiles. Some Ford dealers refused to carry the paper. Responding to this pressure, Ford halted publication of the anti-Jewish series in January 1922, only to start it up again less than a year later.

In April 1924, the Independent initiated a new series of attacks on attorney Aaron Sapiro, accusing him of exploiting farmers’ cooperatives. When Ford refused to print a retraction, Sapiro sued him for libel. The case finally came to trial in March 1927 and quickly turned into a media circus. Shortly before Ford was scheduled to testify, he ordered the closing of the Dearborn Independent (it closed at the end of 1927) and explored an out-of-court settlement with Sapiro.

After negotiations with U.S. Representative Nathan D. Perlman, a vice president of the American Jewish Congress, and Louis Marshall, president of the American Jewish Committee, Ford agreed to release a formal apology, written by Marshall, and to make a cash settlement with Sapiro.

Although this seemingly ended a sad chapter in Henry Ford’s life, the episode tarnished his reputation and it has never been completely forgotten.


https://www.thehenryford.org/collections-and-research/digital-resources/popular-topics/henry-ford-and-anti-semitism-a-complex-story

MrPresident1:



Are Negroes Hamites?

Yes/No please provide a one word answer

Please provide us with proof that Negroes are Semites.

We are waiting.


Do a google search on the origin of the Negroes, or are you scared?

This Day in Jewish History 1927: Henry Ford Says Sorry for anti-Semitic Spew


Jewish publisher's libel suit led the auto manufacturing mogul and publisher to apologize for anti-Semitic articles in his newspaper.


On July 16, 1927, Aaron Sapiro and Henry Ford reached an out-of-court settlement that ended the libel suit the Jewish lawyer had brought against the Detroit auto manufacturer and publisher. The case was perhaps the key element in convincing Ford, who had used his newspaper and other publications to peddle an ongoing and vicious series of anti-Jewish theories, to back down and even disavow the lies that had been made in his name.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.haaretz.com/amp/jewish/.premium-1927-henry-ford-says-sorry-for-anti-semitic-spew-1.5296102

OkCornel:


Please provide us with proof that Negroes are Semites.

We are waiting.


Do a google search on the origin of the Negroes, or are you scared?

We will get to your point shortly. Are Negroes Hamites, Yes/No?

MrPresident1:


We will get to your point shortly. Are Negroes Hamites, Yes/No?

Yes they are Hamites.

Now please check the meaning of Negro, and bear in mind what you’ve repeated on this thread regarding the Ethiopians as per Jeremiah 13 v 23.


Prove to us that the Negroes descended from Shem. Thank you.

The following nations descended from Shem;

1) Elam (The Elamites/Persians/Present day Iran & Parts of Iraq)

2) Arphaxad (The progenitor of the Chaldeans from which Abraham descended from and by extension the Hebrews)

3) Asshur (The progenitor of the Assyrian empire)

4) Aram (The progenitor of the Syriac nation)

5) Lud (The progenitor of the Lydians in present day Turkey).

Now please how are the Hebrews somewhat the only nation that were blacks or Negroes but the Syrians, Turks, Iranians etc were/are not?

PrecisionFx:
Provide credible proof of his apology

"Credible" is not relative to the someone who wants to be in denial.

PrecisionFx:
Where is the credible proof of his apology?

You arent even settling for a reinterpretation of known facts, but you're gunning for an outright denial of known facts, lol.

OkCornel:
The publication of “The International Jew” caused an uproar. In some quarters, such as anti-immigrant and nativist groups, the series confirmed their own beliefs. Others were appalled by the series, published demands for a retraction, removed the paper from public libraries, and promoted a boycott of Ford automobiles. Some Ford dealers refused to carry the paper. Responding to this pressure, Ford halted publication of the anti-Jewish series in January 1922, only to start it up again less than a year later.

In April 1924, the Independent initiated a new series of attacks on attorney Aaron Sapiro, accusing him of exploiting farmers’ cooperatives. When Ford refused to print a retraction, Sapiro sued him for libel. The case finally came to trial in March 1927 and quickly turned into a media circus. Shortly before Ford was scheduled to testify, he ordered the closing of the Dearborn Independent (it closed at the end of 1927) and explored an out-of-court settlement with Sapiro.

After negotiations with U.S. Representative Nathan D. Perlman, a vice president of the American Jewish Congress, and Louis Marshall, president of the American Jewish Committee, Ford agreed to release a formal apology, written by Marshall, and to make a cash settlement with Sapiro.

Although this seemingly ended a sad chapter in Henry Ford’s life, the episode tarnished his reputation and it has never been completely forgotten.


https://www.thehenryford.org/collections-and-research/digital-resources/popular-topics/henry-ford-and-anti-semitism-a-complex-story

mr PrecisionFx here is the evidence. .

OkCornel:
This Day in Jewish History 1927: Henry Ford Says Sorry for anti-Semitic Spew


Jewish publisher's libel suit led the auto manufacturing mogul and publisher to apologize for anti-Semitic articles in his newspaper.


On July 16, 1927, Aaron Sapiro and Henry Ford reached an out-of-court settlement that ended the libel suit the Jewish lawyer had brought against the Detroit auto manufacturer and publisher. The case was perhaps the key element in convincing Ford, who had used his newspaper and other publications to peddle an ongoing and vicious series of anti-Jewish theories, to back down and even disavow the lies that had been made in his name.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.haaretz.com/amp/jewish/.premium-1927-henry-ford-says-sorry-for-anti-semitic-spew-1.5296102

Another evidence Mr PrecisionFx

CaveAdullam:
mr PrecisionFx here is the proof.

Watch mister PrecisionFx, he's going to sniff, then turn up his nose at that, saying its not credible, lol

OkCornel:


Yes they are Hamites.

Now please check the meaning of Negro, and bear in mind what you’ve repeated on this thread regarding the Ethiopians as per Jeremiah 13 v 23.


Prove to us that the Negroes descended from Shem. Thank you.

“Ham: The youngest son of Noah, born probably about 96 years before the Flood; and one of eight persons to live through the Flood. He became the progenitor of the dark races; not the Negroes, but the Egyptians, Ethiopians, Libyans and Canaanites.” – Zondervan Bible Dictionary

So you don't believe/trust Zondervan who says the Negroes are not Hamites?

MrPresident1:


“Ham: The youngest son of Noah, born probably about 96 years before the Flood; and one of eight persons to live through the Flood. He became the progenitor of the dark races; not the Negroes, but the Egyptians, Ethiopians, Libyans and Canaanites.” – Zondervan Bible Dictionary

So you don't believe/trust Zondervan who says the Negroes are not Hamites?

Please show us where Zondervan wrote or claimed the Negroes descended from Shem.

I’m awaiting your evidence.

MuttleyLaff:
Watch mister PrecisionFx, he's going to sniff, then turn up his nose at that, saying its not credible, lol

Then he will give us credible ways in order to determine what is credible.

Lets watch out.

BTW happy new year old classic specimen of a human being.

OkCornel:


Please show us where Zondervan wrote or claimed the Negroes descended from Shem.

I’m awaiting your evidence.

Did Negroes descend Ham, does Zondervan say this?
Are Negroes from Japheth?

MrPresident1:


Did Negroes descend Ham, does Zondervan say this?
Are Negroes from Japheth?

You claim the Hebrews are black. The burden of proof is on you.

Show us where and how the Negroes descended from Shem, abi did Zondervan claim they descended from Shem hmmm?

Look at this quote below, and show us where and how the Negroes descended from Shem.

The following nations descended from Shem;

1) Elam (The Elamites/Persians/Present day Iran & Parts of Iraq)

2) Arphaxad (The progenitor of the Chaldeans from which Abraham descended from and by extension the Hebrews)

3) Asshur (The progenitor of the Assyrian empire)

4) Aram (The progenitor of the Syriac nation)

5) Lud (The progenitor of the Lydians in present day Turkey).

Now please how are the Hebrews somewhat the only nation that were blacks or Negroes, but the Syrians, Turks, Iranians etc were/are not?

Around 1442 the Portuguese first arrived in sub-Saharan Africa while trying to find a sea route to India. The term negro, literally meaning "black", was used by the Spanish and Portuguese as a simple description to refer to people. From the 18th century to the late 1960s, "negro" (later capitalized) was considered to be the proper English-language term for certain people of sub-Saharan African origin.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Negro


MrPresident1 read and agreed the Ethiopians are blacks as per Jeremiah 13 v 23.

Ethiopians (Cushites) descended from Ham.

The above extract from Wikipedia also tells us the root meaning of the word Negro to be black, and they’re of Subsaharan Africa origin.

And they’re still claiming Negroes descended from Shem? I really find this amusing

OkCornel:


Yes they are Hamites.
Now please check the meaning of Negro, and bear in mind what you’ve repeated on this thread regarding the Ethiopians as per Jeremiah 13 v 23.


Prove to us that the Negroes descended from Shem. Thank you.

Negroes are Hamites

You have ended this discussion!

MrPresident1:


Negroes are Hamites

You have ended this discussion!

We are still awaiting your evidences they descended from Shem.

Are Negroes Shemites? If yes, please provide us with evidences.

CaveAdullam:
Then he will give us credible ways in order to determine what is credible.
Lets watch out.

OK lets hold our breath and watch, but I promise you, I wont say: "I told you so," about PrecisionFx, lol

OkCornel:


We are still awaiting your evidences they descended from Shem.

Are Negroes Shemites? If yes, please provide us with evidences.

Funny fellow.

Negroes are not Hamites Zondervan says so, at least you too quoted them in the past as a source to buttress your point. You don't trust them anymore?

Negroes are not Japhethites, Japheth are the Caucasians and oyinbo people. This leaves us with SHEM. Therefore

Negroes are Shem

MrPresident1:


Funny fellow.

Negroes are not Hamites Zondervan says so, at least you too quoted them in the past as a source to buttress your point. You don't trust them anymore?

Negroes are not Japhethites, Japheth are the Caucasians and oyinbo people. This leaves us with SHEM. Therefore

Negroes are Shem

This is guess work, no evidence whatsoever. Is that what Zondervan wrote? that Negroes descended from Shem?

A) Which of the following Semitic races did the Negroes descend from?
1) Lud (Turks)
2) Aram (Syrians)
3) Arphaxad (Chaldeans/Iraqis)
4) Asshur (Assyrians)
5) Elam (Persians/Iranians and parts of Iraq)

B) How did the Negroes (blacks) end up in Sub-saharan Africa?

Around 1442 the Portuguese first arrived in sub-Saharan Africa while trying to find a sea route to India. The term negro, literally meaning "black", was used by the Spanish and Portuguese as a simple description to refer to people. From the 18th century to the late 1960s, "negro" (later capitalized) was considered to be the proper English-language term for certain people of sub-Saharan African origin.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Negro

MrPresident1, did you also turn a blind eye to this? NEGROES WAS A TERM FOR CERTAIN PEOPLE OF SUB-SAHARAN AFRICAN ORIGIN.

We are still awaiting your evidence of Negroes that descended from Shem, but somehow ended up in Sub-saharan Africa.

I can't help but wonder why the Hebrews are black crew are holding onto Zondervan like their lives depend on it

Lol, Zondervan must be the world's foremost anthropologist

Negroid or Congoid is a term that was used to refer to people which lived in Sub-Saharan Africa or which descended from people living there., It is one of several postulated "races" of human beings. It was one of the three "greater races", the other two were Europoid (or Caucasian), and Mongoloid.

Today, the term should no longer be used, as it also has connotations of racism, and links to colonialism and slavery. In a scientific context, the term cannot be used, either. It suggests that people have the same phenotype just because they look very similar. Features such as a wider nose, curly hair, and dark skin were seen as typical for the Negroid race.
https://simple.wikipedia.org/wiki/Negroid

MrPresident1, please explain to us how Negroes which refers to people which lived in Subsaharan Africa descended from Shem .

OkCornel:
Negroid or Congoid is a term that was used to refer to people which lived in Sub-Saharan Africa or which descended from people living there., It is one of several postulated "races" of human beings. It was one of the three "greater races", the other two were Europoid (or Caucasian), and Mongoloid.

Today, the term should no longer be used, as it also has connotations of racism, and links to colonialism and slavery. In a scientific context, the term cannot be used, either. It suggests that people have the same phenotype just because they look very similar. Features such as a wider nose, curly hair, and dark skin were seen as typical for the Negroid race.
https://simple.wikipedia.org/wiki/Negroid

MrPresident1, please explain to us how Negroes which refers to people which lived in Subsaharan Africa descended from Shem .

You dont know how ignorant you're sounding among knowledgeable people.

Find the book -from Babylon to Timbuktuo and read

MrPresident1:


You dont know how ignorant you're sounding among knowledgeable people.

Find the book -from Babylon to Timbuktuo and read

Lol, so the Hebrews left captivity in Babylon and migrated to Timbuktu?

Mehn, this is getting more hilarious

MrPresident1:


You dont know how ignorant you're sounding among knowledgeable people.

Find the book -from Babylon to Timbuktuo and read

I've downloaded the book, and I'm definitely going to have a good laugh.

Here are some of the reviews on the book;

Ashton Webb
This begins as the sloppiest, most haphazard book I've ever lain eyes on. Seriously, it's all over the place. The author seems like he's on ten different drugs as there is no clear line of reasoning, nor any apparent organization at all. Some lines even appear like blatant non-sequiturs conjured up for God knows what. For example, one passage reads:

"As stated above, the Africans came to Alexander claiming that the land of Canaan belonged to them. The point that I want to elucidate is that these Canaanites considered themselves Africans. Consequently, we can correctly say that he Hebrew-Canaanite language is one of the African languages.
Many of the private houses of these black people were equipped with cisterns for storing water.
The wealth of Phoenicia was predicated on clandestine, technical procedures in manufacture..."
Yeah...we got your point...& why did you arbitrarily bring up that factoid about cisterns?...
It's also obvious the author has a lack of confidence in what he's talking about as he has to explicitly explain & repeat everything he says two times over like his readership is too dumb to draw further implications between the lines. Especially irritating is how often the author hammers it over your head that everybody is black! The Egyptians, the Arabs, the early Southern Europeans, the Asians, even Hannibal(Whether this were true or not, it need not be hammered over my head, dear sir, particularly if you want me to believe you).
None of this is to mention that much of which he speaks of is plain conjecture though he, again explicitly, states that it's been proven. The whole effort combines into what feels like a cheap rhetorical brochure written by an amateur who aspires towards sounding academic in their approach but is clearly out of their depth. His deductive reasoning is full of holes & his logic is laughably contrived. To top it all off I still only have a vague idea of what he was ultimately trying to achieve here. This is no history of anything but a splatter of random thoughts loosely tied to the theme of Africanism...
That is unless you can manage to get to the history of the Arabs & the beginnings of Islam, in which case it begins to demonstrate sudden cohesion of a sorts.
It's rather fascinating actually because after that point onwards it becomes a coherent, easy read with a structured, chronological take on the history of, well, the ancient black races. So, I recommend any future readers skip the first segment although don't expect anything more than a cursory glance over the history of Black Hebrews & the societies of the African continent.

Asha;
Relating the history of Africa to the Bible is something I have a strong interest in,therefore I really wanted to learn from this book, but it was a disappointment. I don't know if the author was trying to prove ancient civilizations were Black or biblical characters were black or what , whatever he is trying to prove , he executes it poorly. The author is all over the place, one minute he is talking about Solomon and Queen Sheba, then Egypt then Islam. He obviously comes from Christian or Jewish theology and this may have complicated things. He jumps from the bible to political history in a illogical way . He throws subtle jabs at Islam, which had little to do with the subject. There were a few facts that were good to know, but better to get a more reliable source

Tim Bryan:
Poorly written by a "scholar" who's crowning educational achievement is a PHD in Metaphysics which is not a real academic degree. Metaphysical degrees can be "purchased" from any of the diploma mills online. It means nothing and no legitimate educational institution will accept it. He professes to be a Christian but states "the purpose of this book is to instill pride in the black man". Perhaps he should read what the bible says about pride. His woeful ignorance of ancient geography is mind blowing and this book is a shining example of poorly done research mixed with assumptions and wishful thinking. REVISIONIST HISTORY IS NOT HISTORY AT ALL! ITS NOTHING MORE THAN LIES !

OkCornel:


I've downloaded the book, and I'm definitely going to have a good laugh.

Here are some of the reviews on the book;

You probably have noticed that I don't argue so much on the forum. I only made an exception for you.

The path has been pointed to you to begin your journey.

Goodluck!