PositiveDirect:
This is how these oil firms keep destroying the environment.


You people should come and see this for yourselves

You're asking them to come and see?

They know and they don't care about the consequences, all that matters is the money they dig out

brigadier747:

They load bla bla bla what....d problem of niger delta is niger deltal leaders from political leader to community leaders...asari dokubo, ateke tom , ayiri emami, ibori ...timi aliable of almighty NDDC, are notable sofware engineers like bill gates...all roulgues, d only region with a whole ministry and a well full funded commisinon...whose budgetary allocations are greater than three ministries combined...ask akpabio...who is cashing out big time again....i proudly niger delta ....only God will save that region

Is nddc not under the federal government?
Is the ministry of Niger Delta not under the federal government?

Tell me which federal government ministry is doing great today,is it the power ministry?
Is it the education ministry? Is it the health ministry?


Ayam proudly Niger Delta bla bla bla,you people just behave as if you don't know Nigeria.



You even mentioned great men like Asari and warlords like Ateke and others,when the federal government was developing Abuja overnight,shebi they did so by giving the developmental money to the traditional rulers and other leaders in Abuja!!!

Oloibiri

Golan007:


This issue is akin to building collapse in Nigeria.

Always the issue of terrible design, unqualified personnel, low quality inputs and dereliction of duty by the bodies responsible for best practice.

The average Nigerian is manifestly corrupt.

Majority of those responding on this forum would do the same, sadly.

At this point, corruption is encrypted in the Nigerian DNA. Despite the monumental failures of this current Government, they have sent their paid thugs to Nairaland claiming this Government is the new coming of Christ. The next president for 2023 has already been chosen and it will be the status quo as per usual.

You got that so right worst is that they are blind to this fact

TheEffective:


Without sentiments, Niger delta is arguably the dumbest region in Nigeria. I have never seen a region full of potentials yet highly unwise, tactically impotent. Full with people who bear European names but archaic in thinking, strategy, and objectivity.

If you feel offended, I owe you no apologies but a request that you think of strategic ways to better your people. The same old play book of gra gra and much ado has not gotten the region anywhere.

If I go full frontal on ND, this thread will burst into flames. Flames of truth anyway.

codemaniacs:


you said "elites". I'm talking about ex-militants and people that signed for the amnesty program.

northerners will only help other northerners.
it's left for the ND to create their own petroleum companies and pay themselves huge millions with lifetime entitlements.

And how many petroleum companies did the northerners build on their own, is it not our collective resources from the ND region they are using to help themselves with juicy employment in the oil and gas sector.

zz

Golan007:


Name a single oil rig owned by a northerner.

In fact, I put it to you that you don't even understand what a rig is.

Nonsense.

That's how you lot keep spreading your ignorance and the cycle continues.

Keep deceiving yourself,so all the so called billionaires with oil rigs are not Nigerians,unless if Buhari has fulfilled his promise where he said he will stop allocating it to our political billionaires in which I seriously doubt.

olajizz01:
Keep deceiving yourself,so all the so called billionaires with oil rigs are not Nigerians,unless if Buhari has fulfilled his promise where he said he will stop allocating it to our political billionaires in which I seriously doubt.

As I said, you don't even know what a rig is.

codemaniacs:


the problem is its no longer "our collective resources" once the oil block has been purchased by the northerners it becomes their own according to law and so they give themselves juicy employment in "their" oil and gas sector.

If it is not owned by an indigene or a group of indigenes or companies owned by indigenes then it is no longer the indigenes own.

it becomes an oil block owned by a non-indigene who does not owe the indigenes anything.

How did he raise the finance to "buy" it? Did he even buy it?

These are the questions you guys should answer before casting aspersions on the good people of the Niger Delta.

We know Northern despots alloted oil blocs to their in laws, ethnic or religious mates, side chicks etc.

The bidding process has NEVER been fair. So save us that talk.

I wonder if any of you know how Nigeria functions or you deliberately want to absolve yourselves of blame. As a country you failed yourselves and you failed the Niger Delta. You allowed the abuse to take place because you are not from there, you participated in the gross neglect and abuse because your salaries and pension come from there. You turned a blind eye because those generals, ministers and permanent secretaries who perpetuate these crimes are from your village, LGA, state or share the same religion with you!

That is Nigeria's sad reality.

You all come out to pretend all is well when the truth is, you are ALL filled with hate and envy towards every other group in the country.

zz

codemaniacs:


there are people from the ND who own oil blocks they can work together in order to acquire or manage the other oil blocks.

after Ironsi removed regionalism, most of the funds from the regions went to the FG, so who ever is in charge of the FG can give their " in laws, ethnic or religious mates, side chicks etc. " the funds to win the bid.

the other regions have their own problems, it is not their duty to pay attention to problems in the ND. the ND could have formed partnerships with other countries to invest in their region if the other tribes or regions were failing them.

resorting to emotional blackmail wouldn't help the ND.

It is EVERYONE'S duty to pay attention to EVERYTHING that is wrong with Nigeria!

The debate has been on the environmental degradation, it is Nigeria's central government that has let that happen. It is disingenuous to claim the Niger Delta peoples are responsible for their plight. They are victims of power play between the Igbo, Yoruba and Fulani.

We have NEVER benefited from our resources. Prior to Ironsi's action of making Nigeria unitary, it was Igbo people who benefitted from our resources in the defunct eastern region. What is different today is that, Fulani and Yoruba elite can also benefit like their Igbo counterparts.

The system has been rigged against us, that's the truth.

zz

PHijo:


No, it was your greed that left us exploited. If your Igbo elite agreed to the proposal of our noble politician, chief Harold Dappa Biriye from present day Rivers state. He called for the creation of an Ijaw region that would have included Ijaws from Ondo till Akwa Ibom. Initially Awolowo agreed with the plan until Azikiwe and his convinced him not to.

The first uprising in Nigeria was Boro's 12 day revolt. Ironically, the head of state and military governor of the defunct eastern region were all Igbo. If the Igbo were devoid of oppressive tendencies, Boro wouldn't have embarked on his brave but near suicidal declaration of independence.

We cannot betray oppressors! Gowon created states, that served our interests. Ojukwu could have negotiated a deal that would have benefited the Igbo but no. All he was interested in was the oil wells in Ijawland.

Igbos. Was opressive and boro won sug in unn ? Did you read the wiki reports ?

Igbochief001:

Igbos. Was opressive and boro won sug in unn ? Did you read the wiki reports ?

Which yeye Wiki reports? Did you read what Boro wrote on his experience in UNN that motivated him to abandon his education for an armed struggle?

PHijo:


Which yeye Wiki reports? Did you read what Boro wrote on his experience in UNN that motivated him to abandon his education for an armed struggle?

Lol his experience yet he won sug president

Tell me how the igbos marginalized you , is it by appointment or or projects tell me ...

Sha we have bought back the abbandoned property ...still yet invest more ...the first back stab was seen as a mistake

The say you people betray igbos again you would see our dark side

Igbochief001:

Lol his experience yet he won sug president

Tell me how the igbos marginalized you , is it by appointment or or projects tell me ...

Sha we have bought back the abbandoned property ...still yet invest more ...the first back stab was seen as a mistake

The say you people betray igbos again you would see our dark side

I don't have time to talk with you! Ignorant folks like you can talk about buying " abandoned property ". Boro did not become SUG president by Igbo votes because as of then, the Igbo were the least educated in the defunct eastern region but the punished him for winning that election. Not even Azikiwe could win election in the region. That is why he had to resort to replacing those who campaigned and won elections.
The Igbo elite in their wickedness went as far as destroying pre independence infrastructure because it was not in their area. The tax rate for Igbo was less in comparison to others in the region. Schools and admissions were deliberately skewed to favour the Igbo immediately after they could hold public office.

Why did the Igbo have a problem with the 12 state structure if they were keen on oppressing others?

Why did Azikiwe oppose Biriye's demand for a separate region if they were not looking for a place to colonize?

When Azikiwe back stabbed Ikoli and Biriye that was not the first back stabbing?

The problem in the Niger Delta is that we have not paid you back with your coins.

Golan007:

As I said, you don't even know what a rig is.

I'm talking of oil well

olajizz01:
I'm talking of oil well

Yet, you've been writing oil rig on multiple occasions.

Are you now expecting me to engage you when it is evident your knowledge is so basic?

codemaniacs:


If the system was rigged against the ND, then GEJ would have never been president, when GEJ was president why didn't he invest in the ND, who and what was stopping him from investing in the ND. while the Igbos were benefiting did they invest in their region why are their roads still a mess till 2020.

It is not and never will be everyone's duty to pay attention to everything that is wrong with Nigeria. do your neighbors pay attention to everything that is wrong in your house or apartment. streets, drainage e.t.c a lot of parents don't even pay attention to their own children.

the ND are responsible for their plight.

you should never expect someone that is not related to you to help or someone that is not of the same ethnic nation as you to help you.

GEJ never became president because Nigerians wanted it, he became president because nature allowed that to happen. The surge in Boko Haram activities further lends credence to that.

Crude oil is on exclusive legislative list. Meaning the Niger Delta states can't even make laws on the oil and gas sector. Even if they do, they can't force the police, which like NNPC, are Nigerian agencies to obey their laws.

The time I visited Bayelsa and went to my friends village in Ogbia lga. There was no good drinking water in her village. All waters were contaminated. They supply them water from Delta state because those ones have better waters.
No good fresh vegetables. The only fresh things i saw were plantains, okro, sea foods etc

No enough toilets You hardly see solid water system there , not that they don't dig but once they try digging see water see oil. I pity them o.

codemaniacs:


If the system was rigged against the ND, then GEJ would have never been president, when GEJ was president why didn't he invest in the ND, who and what was stopping him from investing in the ND. while the Igbos were benefiting did they invest in their region why are their roads still a mess till 2020.

It is not and never will be everyone's duty to pay attention to everything that is wrong with Nigeria. do your neighbors pay attention to everything that is wrong in your house or apartment. streets, drainage e.t.c a lot of parents don't even pay attention to their own children.

the ND are responsible for their plight.

you should never expect someone that is not related to you to help or someone that is not of the same ethnic nation as you to help you.

When militants strike you are the first to complain.

Wike tried to contain Covid-19, you bunch of hypocrites were the first to complain.

Thank you for reminding the Niger Delta that Nigeria is not their responsibility. I hope you will remember to repeat this statement when the next round armed agitation takes place.

PHijo:


I don't have time to talk with you! Ignorant folks like you can talk about buying " abandoned property ". Boro did not become SUG president by Igbo votes because as of then, the Igbo were the least educated in the defunct eastern region but the punished him for winning that election. Not even Azikiwe could win election in the region. That is why he had to resort to replacing those who campaigned and won elections.
The Igbo elite in their wickedness went as far as destroying pre independence infrastructure because it was not in their area. The tax rate for Igbo was less in comparison to others in the region. Schools and admissions were deliberately skewed to favour the Igbo immediately after they could hold public office.

Why did the Igbo have a problem with the 12 state structure if they were keen on oppressing others?

Why did Azikiwe oppose Biriye's demand for a separate region if they were not looking for a place to colonize?

When Azikiwe back stabbed Ikoli and Biriye that was not the first back stabbing?

The problem in the Niger Delta is that we have not paid you back with your coins.

I dare you to show proof

zz

codemaniacs:


GEJ got re-elected in 2011 it has nothing to do with nature.

Its not about creating laws on the oil and gas sector, its about creating companies that are in the oil and gas sector. if you're intelligent enough to call NNPC a "Nigerian agency" then you know that an "Ijaw Petroleum Company" can be created either by a private Ijaw person or an Ijaw corporate group or by the state government, no one is stopping the Ijaws from doing this. there is a cement company called Cement C:ompany of N:orthern Nigeria, what is stopping the Ijaws from creating Petroleum Company of Ijaw Corporation.



militants wouldn't have to strike if politicians from ND had given them free education, if politicians and Ken Saro Wiwa were calling out rich private Ijaw sons and daughters to re-invest their money in Bayelsa. If you see armed agitation as the only solution then you're only creating problems for the ND.

How companies are created is determined by the laws so you cannot ignore the role legal issues play.

You and other Nigerians who benefit from the neglect of the region are promoting this narrative.

Free education when and under what circumstances?

Prior to Nigeria's independence Ijaw were more educated than the Yoruba and Igbo. The Igbo in particular had a deliberate policy of preventing Ijaw children from gaining access to education.

What drew Ijaw people backward was being under the defunct western and eastern region. For Saro-Wiwa's Ogoni people, they've never been able to govern themselves in any form whatsoever so blaming them for their plight is disingenuous.

Since 1960 till date no Ogoni man has been governor, deputy governor or speaker.

In Nigeria, like I said before, oil assets were given out by military dictators without following due process.

The crux of our argument in the Niger Delta is on the right to issue license at the state or regional level, the right to collect tax, the right to make environmental laws, the right to enforce those laws.

Without these, Nigeria is to be blamed for all that is wrong.

zz

codemaniacs:


the laws don't stop Ijaws from creating oil companies.

the neglect is caused by the Ijaws themselves, imagine your neighbor blaming you for his/her joblessness and poverty and he/she does not apply for jobs.

free education after Nigeria gained independence in 1960s.

Ijaws can't be more educated than the Yorubas, because the first school in Nigeria was created in the SW.

have the ogonis tried to create their own political party and vote their son/daughter to get governor, deputy governor or speaker?

military dictators were not of Ijaw descent so you don't expect a non-Ijaw to follow due process on Ijaw natural resources.

since the ND can't issue license at the state or regional level, can't collect tax, can't make environmental laws and can't have right to enforce those laws then they should create an Ijaw only corporate society or private company that will acquire the licence, keep the profits, make state environmental agencies more functional to keep the environment clean.

To start with, it shows how ignorant you are. Schools started in the Niger Delta. Particularly amongst Ijaw and Efik communities were the kings employed and financed Christian missionary societies in exchange for schools to be set up in their communities.

Are you okay? To start with, your government made it illegal for Ogoni people to have their political party.

They changed the law because 1 Ijaw man under an Ijaw party was able to get a seat at the national assembly.

Then why are you making noise here? Since Nigerians condone the aggression of uniformed men from their societies against resource bearing communities then they should also be supportive when armed agitators from those regions repossess their assets people from other parts of Nigeria took through the use of military force.

You are a mad man!
You Nigerians are mad!!
God will so punish you people in His special way!!!

Several Niger Delta states and host communities have applied for licenses to no avail. The PIB got stuck in your parliament because provisions were made for host communities in the last 20 years.

zz

codemaniacs:

so kings "employed and financed Christian missionary societies in exchange for schools to be set up in their communities" but they couldn't employ and finance electrical engineers, civil engineers e.t.c to build up the infrastructure in the ND.

we're in 2020, is it still illegal for them? don't they have money to fund another Ijaw who would work in their interest.

In 2020, there are many Ijaws with seats in the national assembly.

Again, armed agitators are not the ones meant to do the repossessing, its meant to be done by the rich Ijaws elites.

I don't even consider myself a Nigerian. I put ethnicity first. even europeans put ethnicity first.

in 2020, there are Ijaws who own oil wells in this host communities, let the Ijaws who own oil wells reinvest 20% - 40% of their Return On Investment into the host communities.

this is my last response to you.

You just show the stupidity of Nigerians time and again. These monarchs were monarchs in sovereign kingdoms. Some had embassies in Britain and Portugal.

As of then the world didn't have electrical engineers. They employed the prevailing technology of their time. Their biggest downfall was to align with "so called fellow Africans" instead of focusing on their business interests and interaction with the rest of the world.

If they do certain things you Nigerians will be the first to say they've overstepped their bounds based on Nigeria's constitution.

Coup plotters are armed agitators. The same way you accept the bounties stolen by armed agitators from other parts of Nigeria ( coup plotters). Is the same way you should accept armed agitators from the Niger Delta recovering what was stolen from their homeland.

How many percent is own by the Ijaws you talked about?
NNPC Nigeria's national petroleum corporation is largest oil company in the region, the main polluter and the primary force that drives human right abuse, yet no Nigerian holds NNPC accountable. Instead they blame SHELL, Chevron etc and of recent the host communities.

In 2020 out of 109 senators only 6 are Ijaw. Where world do 6 senators form a voting majority?

In the last 20 years there were times the Ijaw nation had 4 or 5 senators. The political system and structure reflects how unjust Nigeria is. They made the system such that the resource bearing communities can never get legal respite.

PHijo:


You just show the stupidity of Nigerians time and again. These monarchs were monarchs in sovereign kingdoms. Some had embassies in Britain and Portugal.

As of then the world didn't have electrical engineers. They employed the prevailing technology of their time. Their biggest downfall was to align with "so called fellow Africans" instead of focusing on their business interests and interaction with the rest of the world.

If they do certain things you Nigerians will be the first to say they've overstepped their bounds based on Nigeria's constitution.

Coup plotters are armed agitators. The same way you accept the bounties stolen by armed agitators from other parts of Nigeria ( coup plotters). Is the same way you should accept armed agitators from the Niger Delta recovering what was stolen from their homeland.

How many percent is own by the Ijaws you talked about?
NNPC Nigeria's national petroleum corporation is largest oil company in the region, the main polluter and the primary force that drives human right abuse, yet no Nigerian holds NNPC accountable. Instead they blame SHELL, Chevron etc and of recent the host communities.

In 2020 out of 109 senators only 6 are Ijaw. Where world do 6 senators form a voting majority?

In the last 20 years there were times the Ijaw nation had 4 or 5 senators. The political system and structure reflects how unjust Nigeria is. They made the system such that the resource bearing communities can never get legal respite.

The highighted, well said my dear.
But please avoid abusive words.

mindtricks:


The highighted, well said my dear.
But please avoid abusive words.

I don't recollect using abusive words against you. It is not in my nature to do that unless provoked.

PHijo:


I don't recollect using abusive words against you. It is not in my nature to do that unless provoked.

No baba. Not me.
The one whom you were speaking to.
It is sweeter when we leave things clean.
I feel your point though.