mmsen:


The bible as a collective is completely incoherent.

To you it is incoherent.. Just say you don't understand, seek knowledge

kayuseful:

To you it is incoherent.. Just say you don't understand, seek knowledge

It's incoherent to anybody who thinks rationally.

Full of inconsistencies and lies.

Yet John the Baptist challenged and condemned Herod .

Drsnives:

Yawa won gas

It Is Well Bro

LKTJ123:
It Is Well Bro

Amen oo.. with faith

LKTJ123:
It Is Well Bro

Amen oo.. with faith

kayuseful:


Lest I assume I'm talking to the wrong audience, may I ask,
Are you a Christian sir/ma

Use to be but not anymore

IJOBA2:
EVEN CHRIST TOLD HIS FOLLOWERS TO FOLLOW THE LAW THAT WAS GIVEN TO MOSES

Have I insinuated anything other than that

Nairalandmonika:

Use to be but not anymore

Great.
I know you "left" for wrong reasons, and I'm sure it's based on some misconceptions about God. What I don't know is if I can be of help

mmsen:


It's incoherent to anybody who thinks rationally.

Full of inconsistencies and lies.

It's like saying to someone speaking Chinese that he's speaking rubbish. It's only rubbish to a foreigner, it's making sense to its target audience who understands the language.

If you're ready to learn the Bible, just be submissive to discipleship of Jesus

kayuseful:

Great.
I know you "left" for wrong reasons, and I'm sure it's based on some misconceptions about God. What I don't know is if I can be of help

I didn't leave for any reason, I know it's fake n not real, a lie been pass down from generation to generation that has been accepted by alot of people, especially Africans.

You actually need my help, not the other way round. If only u would stop being emotional about ur religion.

kayuseful:

It's like saying to someone speaking Chinese that he's speaking rubbish. It's only rubbish to a foreigner, it's making sense to its target audience who understands the language.

If you're ready to learn the Bible, just be submissive to discipleship of Jesus

U don't think u know the meaning of contradictions, contradictions are two words opposing each other, meaning one is a lie.

Comparing contradictions to Chinese language doesn't even make sense.

A Chinese language may seem like rubbish to me but one it is interpreted then it makes sense.

Dtruthspeaker:


I am Deeply Honoured by You! It is Much Respected and I Pray to Lord Most High, That I Never Disappoint Him, While Praying that the Eyes, Ears, Noses, and Feelings of My Brothers in Nigeria May Be Open To See and Understand the Great Goodness of the Lord, which He Has Poured on Us Already, But it is Only for Those Who See It, Perceive It and Take it, That can Have It!

Blessings to You Too Sir, For Hearing These Things I Say, For They Are in Deed True, Myself Doing Them Also!

Prayer is the key, with much intercession and evangelism, more people would come to the knowledge of the truth

Nairalandmonika:

U don't think u know the meaning of contradictions, contradictions are two words opposing each other, meaning one is a lie.

Comparing contradictions to Chinese language doesn't even make sense.

A Chinese language may seem like rubbish to me but one it is interpreted then it makes sense.

What do you mean by contradictions, let me in please

GodsMopol:


What do you mean by contradictions, let me in please

I am talking from the Bible point of view now

Matthew 27:5
Then he threw down the pieces of silver in the temple and departed, and went and hanged himself.

Acts 1:18
Now this man purchased a field with the wages of iniquity; and falling headlong he burst open in the middle and all his entrails gushed out.

Above was how judas died according to Matthew and act.

Obviously they are contradicting each other, and this just one example. They are many others.

Nairalandmonika:

I am talking from the Bible point of view now

Matthew 27:5
Then he threw down the pieces of silver in the temple and departed, and went and hanged himself.

Acts 1:18
Now this man purchased a field with the wages of iniquity; and falling headlong he burst open in the middle and all his entrails gushed out.

Above was how judas died according to Matthew and act.

Obviously they are contradicting each other, and this just one example. They are many others.

First of all, the Bible was compiled some 2000 years ago. The Bible contains 66 different books. Evidently, written by different authors. But one thing that would interest you is, there are more correlation in the Bible than the contradictions. And I believe that's worth a thumbs up. We are talking about different authors still agreeing to the same thing as seen in sermons and cross-referencing. For instance, Jesus on different occasions made mention of verse in the old testament where things about Him which were found in the dead sea scroll which dated 2000 years ago also cited.

I would want you to know that, the Bible was rewritten over the millennial from the period of Moses till civilization (print) as materials occasionally depreciate and need to be replaced. Hence, people would have to rewrite and in the case of Matthew, Mark, Luke, John and Acts. I believe these books were written at different times to different audiences and when the compilation was done, it proved to agree on many things than what it disagrees on. I would ask, if a student scores 91% in a test, do you because of their inability to cover for the remaining 9 score them an F. Evidently, you commend them for the job well done.

Nairalandmonika:

I am talking from the Bible point of view now

Matthew 27:5
Then he threw down the pieces of silver in the temple and departed, and went and hanged himself.

Acts 1:18
Now this man purchased a field with the wages of iniquity; and falling headlong he burst open in the middle and all his entrails gushed out.

Above was how judas died according to Matthew and act.

Obviously they are contradicting each other, and this just one example. They are many others.

There could be a possibility that he hanged himself and fell hence his stomach gushed as proclaimed by both sides. There is a possibility that while trying to untie him from the rope, he fell.

Both side could be telling their stories from different approach

GodsMopol:


There could be a possibility that he hanged himself and fell hence his stomach gushed as proclaimed by both sides. There is a possibility that while trying to untie him from the rope, he fell.

Both side could be telling their stories from different approach

So god inspired them to write the story from different approach.

act 9 vs 7
And the men who traveled with him stood speechless, hearing the voice, but seeing no one.

Act 22:9
And those who were with me beheld the light, to be sure, but did not understand the voice of the One who was speaking to me.

See we could go on all day cause them are many of this contradictions in the Bible.

The creation story is another flaw in the Bible people don't talk about.
How the Bible discribe the earth is another issue.
I still repeat if u study the Bible without emotion u will see how flawed it is.

GodsMopol:


First of all, the Bible was compiled some 2000 years ago. The Bible contains 66 different books. Evidently, written by different authors. But one thing that would interest you is, there are more correlation in the Bible than the contradictions. And I believe that's worth a thumbs up. We are talking about different authors still agreeing to the same thing as seen in sermons and cross-referencing. For instance, Jesus on different occasions made mention of verse in the old testament where things about Him which were found in the dead sea scroll which dated 2000 years ago also cited.

I would want you to know that, the Bible was rewritten over the millennial from the period of Moses till civilization (print) as materials occasionally depreciate and need to be replaced. Hence, people would have to rewrite and in the case of Matthew, Mark, Luke, John and Acts. I believe these books were written at different times to different audiences and when the compilation was done, it proved to agree on many things than what it disagrees on. I would ask, if a student scores 91% in a test, do you because of their inability to cover for the remaining 9 score them an F. Evidently, you commend them for the job well done.

What u just typed now is according to what u believe, it's not fact.
Christian claim god inspired the writers of the Bible, so therefore the book was supposed to be perfect, but even from your write up, one will conclude that the book is not perfect.

Apart from the contradictions, they are many other stories that did not add up or make sense.

olayiwola4u:


You are right... Curse will follow, but those who will curse the leader will partake in the lake of fire.

Those who curse a Good leader for a wicked purpose or bad intentions shall surely Partake in the Lake of Fire, like Korah and Dathan and Abiram!

sophirebenitez:


Well, it's a thing of choice. Jesus has already made us free from the mosiac law. The law we should strive to now keep is the command of Christ, "love God, love the brethren"

If one wants to abstain from foods like pork, it shouldn't be on the grounds of mosiac law, cause it's no longer an issue under the new law. Whether you eat or not, it's not what justifies you.

Yes it is a thing of Choice, But Also of Understanding.

For God is the King of Law and it is from Him we Get all our good Instructions and directions of Law from.

And Everytime God First, EXPRESSLY issued a Command, He Always issued Another Command Revoking it EXPRESSLY.

E.g in Leviticus and Deuteronomy, He Said if Isreal does not keep the commandments, He shall deliver them up to their enemies.

When He Revoked that Commandment, in Jeremiah 30:10,

10Therefore fear thou not, O my servant Jacob, saith the LORD; neither be dismayed, O Israel: for, lo, I will save thee from afar, and thy seed from the land of their captivity; and Jacob shall return, and shall be in rest, and be quiet, and none shall make him afraid.

Which till today, No One has driven them out of the land.

That is why we know that He Has Not Revoked or Repealed the Old Testaments, it's Laws and it's Consequences, for there is No Express Declaration Repealing or Revoking it, Which The Lord Knows That He Must Do, else the Commandments shall continue to be in effect forever.

Ofcourse, this is very true. But I wish people will defend their CREATOR GOD the way we defend human leaders.

True men of GOD and the holy have to tell the derailing leaders the truth without insulting them.

GodsMopol:


Prayer is the key, with much intercession and evangelism, more people would come to the knowledge of the truth

I understand what you are saying but I think it wise to pray for Mercy and all the things I need to inherit Eternal Life, for myself, than to pray for others or even evangelize. Why?

Because, I can still Burn Today and be an Inmate in the Lake of Fire, Which I do not want.

Therefore, in all I do and say, I Watch and Pray as Paul Counseled, Knowing that I Can Always Fall into Condemnation, as Many before me have done, because of distractions, if I Fail to Watch and Pray, for myself.

As Christ said, "let the dead, bury their dead", so I say, let them pray for themselves, if they like

For just like my Eternal Life is Not Going to be their Eternal Life IF THEY DO NOT JOIN ME, So Also Shall their Eternal Torment and Damnation, is Never going to be my Eternal Torment and Damnation, IF I DO NOT JOIN THEM!

Meanwhile, i See That It is Very Easy For Me To Join Them, While, it is very Difficult For Them to Join Me.

My Brother, I will Sit down in my house and continue to walk in the way of Life that I have found, without looking for who is with me or not with me, lest I fall.

The walk and work is not done until the Lord, tells me to Enter into His Rest and till then, I will be Always Watchful, Praying Daily and Remembering His Commandments, to keep them and to walk Properly in Them as the Apostles and Righteous Men in the Bible had done before me

olayiwola4u:


Do you think they got there by your power? God put them whether they know it or not.

It is the Law, a good tree shall never bear an evil fruit.

The Good Lord can never give us wicked leaders and like Saul, any who fails to do good, Shall Be Removed by Him, where God Put him.

But, You people chose for yourself, from among yourselves who's shall rule over you. And Nigerians have Never Chosen that the Lord Rule of Nigeria, hence His Hand No dey Nigerian Leaders, na una hand.

engrchykae:
the light of God shines on the object (man) and darkness is always around, waiting to take advantage

If the light of God Shines on a man, there would not be darkness (which you are refering to called evil) at all.

All was perfect as there is no evil at all in having left and right hands, legs, eyes, ears, nostrils etc

Evil was elsewhere until man opened the door for him to enter.

And I now see, you love your darkness (Evil), so keep it to yourself and you can let it take advantage of you, as you want

I Hate Darkness (Evil) and it has no place in or around me. And it is banned from my territories and my presence, forever!

Nairalandmonika:

What u just typed now is according to what u believe, it's not fact.
Christian claim god inspired the writers of the Bible, so therefore the book was supposed to be perfect, but even from your write up, one will conclude that the book is not perfect.

Apart from the contradictions, they are many other stories that did not add up or make sense.

Have you heard about the dead sea scroll. They still remain the strongest proof of Bible days. So it's all not some hugwash or cooked up or fabricated stories, these were records of events that happened and there are many artifacts in Egypt that really verified the existence of such occurrence and one among many are the Israelite themselves. There is what is called Tanakh, Tanakh is a basically the old testament. And the Tanakh is exactly the same content as contained in the old testament. There was a Jewish historian called flavius Josephus. He detailed a Jewish historian far back as 60AD and he has the records of all events as they happen. So, it's not all some fabricated piece. The term Bible is another word for "books". So when you see Holy Bible, it means, Holy Books. Now, the Bible recorded events as they happened, not our own personal history. Though we are to learn from people which did so and so with God, so we would have an idea of the kind of God we serve, but above all, God has given us His Spirit which is the present day word of God, now, before can know where we are going, we need to know how it started, so we can picture how we would do it here and with the help of the Holy Spirit, we would know how to improve on them. Most of Paul's writings were inspired by the Holy Spirit and he wrote them as he was inspired but there were histroys and events like the wars David fought, the war the Israelite found, going round the wall of Jericho, the story of Daniel, Esther, Jeremiah and many countless other were things men had an experience of, and they wrote them as they experience them

GodsMopol:


Have you heard about the dead sea scroll. They still remain the strongest proof of Bible days. So it's all not some hugwash or cooked up or fabricated stories, these were records of events that happened and there are many artifacts in Egypt that really verified the existence of such occurrence and one among many are the Israelite themselves. There is what is called Tanakh, Tanakh is a basically the old testament. And the Tanakh is exactly the same content as contained in the old testament. There was a Jewish historian called flavius Josephus. He detailed a Jewish historian far back as 60AD and he has the records of all events as they happen. So, it's not all some fabricated piece. The term Bible is another word for "books". So when you see Holy Bible, it means, Holy Books. Now, the Bible recorded events as they happened, not our own personal history. Though we are to learn from people which did so and so with God, so we would have an idea of the kind of God we serve, but above all, God has given us His Spirit which is the present day word of God, now, before can know where we are going, we need to know how it started, so we can picture how we would do it here and with the help of the Holy Spirit, we would know how to improve on them. Most of Paul's writings were inspired by the Holy Spirit and he wrote them as he was inspired but there were histroys and events like the wars David fought, the war the Israelite found, going round the wall of Jericho, the story of Daniel, Esther, Jeremiah and many countless other were things men had an experience of, and they wrote them as they experience them

Those are just make believe, if u go to Italy today, they will show you the grave of Romeo and Juliet, don't tell me u believe Romeo and Juliet story was real.
In the history of ancient Egypt there's no record of a ruler name Joseph, there's no proof they had any prince name Moses.

The Bible wasn't just written like that, it was a combination of different religion including paganism.

Jesus is not the only person born of a god and an earthly mother,
Even Hercules was born of a god and an earthly mother.
You should read this and see how an Egyptian goddess was converted to Mary the mother of Jesus.
http://www.columbia.edu/~sf2220/Thing/web-content/Pages/meg2.html

Nairalandmonika:

Those are just make believe, if u go to Italy today, they will show you the grave of Romeo and Juliet, don't tell me u believe Romeo and Juliet story was real.
In the history of ancient Egypt there's no record of a ruler name Joseph, there's no proof they had any prince name Moses.

The Bible wasn't just written like that, it was a combination of different religion including paganism.

Jesus is not the only person born of a god and an earthly mother,
Even Hercules was born of a god and an earthly mother.
You should read this and see how an Egyptian goddess was converted to Mary the mother of Jesus.
http://www.columbia.edu/~sf2220/Thing/web-content/Pages/meg2.html

Do have a nice day

GodsMopol:


Do have a nice day

You too