Pataki: And this is one of the best of brains President Retardeen told us he will be bringing into his administration.

What a shame. Only a Retardeen will make NOI become a liar and clueless about what her ministry is actually doing, and what her ministry is actually meant to do.

Nothing new again in Nigeria.

chucky234: Guy with a full page easy still could not make a single point,maybe you should try to find out what budget is all about then you will realised the grave danger of not having a budget implemented.

hercules07:

NOI is not the only reliable source to defend these documents, the ministry is not hers, she has people who are professionals who work there, the lower minister should be able to defend it as well, I do not even see any defense here sef, it is obvious that the budget of 2012 has failed, the budget o, the projects o and the money are all gone down the drain.

dedeike: Without holding brief for Okonjo on the low budget performance, I must add that she is threading with caution given the massive corruption in the system.
There is so much consiousness in Nigeria at the moment over governance. Every public official is now very cautious so as to avoid being caught up in the cross fire of probes.
What Okonjo is doing is to make sure that suspicious projects padded up by corrupt politicians in the National Assembly do not scale through.
And that is why they are crying foul over speedy Implementation.
After all, if the National Assembly was so desirous of budget implementation, they would have given this budget a speedy passage. They were given the budget in December but they passed it in April. I can even assume that this delay was intentional in order to ensure that NOI will not have time to enforce due process in the implementation if the budget.
Now everybody is shouting 12% implementation in August without remembering that the budget is barely 4 months old.

Kobojunkie:

OH PLEASE!!! I remember when Aganga was added to the team in 2010, and how many of you(maybe not you in particular) praised him to high heavens. Where is he today? What is he doing to us? I still wonder how he felt he could get away with his "1.4 million jobs created in 12 months" story and the Vulcan MOU or whatever that is nonsense.

Let's not blame the president for all this now. She might just be trying her best to make a hopeless situation look better only she gets caught every now and then. If that be the case, then I ask her for whose benefit?

D-Explorer:

I thought your likes no longer exist.

Kobojunkie:

YOu mean like she defended her "I DON't KNOW WHAT IS GOING ON IN THE OFFICE I AM IN CHARGE OF" claims during the subsidy probe in front of millions of Nigerians?

D-Explorer:

Hey! What's your question all about? Fuel subsidy or Budget implementation?

Kobojunkie:
My question is on your pretending she cannot make mistakes.

Demdem:

oga read this

The Senate said the Federal Government had no reason not to effectively implement the budget given the fact that the National Assembly expeditiously approved what the government asked for without any major alteration.

Ekweremadu said, “I recall that when the 2012 budget was presented to us as a draft bill, we in the National Assembly decided that we are going to do everything possible to send it back to the Executive the way it came, so that there will be no argument on whether it will be implemented or not, because over the years we have had this issue of non-implementation of the budget.

”We had to do that to ensure that they received the budget the way and manner they wanted it so that the implementation would be much easier. Unfortunately the level of implementation has been anything less than commendable and that is why we are worried.

Pataki:

If you cannot stand my comment, fall down and die!

I am not here to appease your e.rotic o.rgasm for GEJ. I have made my comment as I deemed it fit. You are not in any position to quote me.

D-Explorer:
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Young woman, this' not fuel subsidy but budget implementation. I would rather go deep on your claims about the impression she gave in regards to the fuel subsidy issue because that's what you asked for but not on this thread. When you talking about defending her claims, she has been at the summit.

davechika: i have taken the pains to read at least up to 80% posts here on the above topic,everybody is entiltled to his/her opinions.
but one thing i wouldnt want to pin my tent in any camp is,it takes TWO to agree,meaning that having heard from one side the lawmakers and senate,the executive (NOI etc) should be heard too before you can be able to deduce the facts,compare and make your points clear.i'll reserve my comments after NOI defence.
you guys should also know that its not everything on media is true,some are
misconstrued to favour your points.

Pataki:

I don't even know who Aganga is. Neither do I want to know him. Right from inception, the problem lies with this Retardeen of a President. He exalted these people with their so-called 'accomplishments'. They have totally failed to deliver. Right from the head, i.e President Retardeen.

This is why passing the buck ends up on the plate of the President. If a Minister is performing according to standards, Retardeen gets the credit. I assume there has to have been a high level of complacency with this GEJ administration that has totally made NOI become a liar, clueless and ignorant about economic affairs of her ministry and the nation at large incessantly.

Pukkah:

Are you saying the delay in the passage of the 2012 budget was entirely caused by the Legislature? Need we go into this debate?

dedeike:

Therein lies the major fear. there was no proper scrutiny by senate over that budget. It was just garbage in, garbage out.
So it's this kind of uncircumcised budget that you want Okonjo to speedily release funds for? No. That era is gone,
I'm still at a loss as to what the National Assembly was doing with the budget for over 4 months.
Where they playing Ludo with it for that period?

dedeike:

Therein lies the major fear. there was no proper scrutiny by senate over that budget. It was just garbage in, garbage out.
So it's this kind of uncircumcised budget that you want Okonjo to speedily release funds for? No. That era is gone,
I'm still at a loss as to what the National Assembly was doing with the budget for over 4 months.
Where they playing Ludo with it for that period?

Pataki:
What these cyber spinners will say to defend the indefensible is beyond imagination.

Assuming the delay of the 2012 budget was caused by the legislature, and it got approved in April, should we then say that since April, Nigeria and Nigerians only deserve a 12% implementation? And this is the same government that continually repeats that it cares for its citizens?

These people (dedeike and co) surely must be more knowledgeable than NOI, and should have been her advisers. Who says Nairaland does not have the best of the best of brains?

D-Explorer:

You should know by now because that's exactly what both chambers are doing - to pressurize the government at the mid-year (after they approved budget) and portray them as unserious and incompetent before Nigerians. They got their games well played. I bet, the same fate will befall 2013 IF 2013 budget is not approved by both chambers in 2012. Before anyone says "it's GEJ's fault" as confirmed by Maku, he has already ordered all ministers to submit their appropriation by september so that both chambers will have 3months to themselves. GEJ is smarter than what Nigerians think but these legislature will always turn simple issues around until it's complex.

Demdem:

U initially stylishly accused the NASS for tampering with the budget submitted by Ngozi therby making it difficult for Ngozi to implement. i showed u the explanation of the NASS that what they did was minimal adjustment considering past experiences and shouldn't be the reason for Ngozi's shoddy job so far now u are accusing the NASS again that they are to be blamed because they didnt do their work in scrutinizing the budget
dedeike, what exactly do u want?

dedeike:

Please try to understand me. I accused NASS for approving some insertions by some corrupt civil servants in the system. It is done with the understanding that there may be kick backs and award of contracts by those civil servants to the politicians in return.

I read in one publication that almost all the MDA's budgeted billions for furniture and equipment for 2012 and instead of NASS to quash some of these unnecessary expenditure, they approved it in the guise of not giving the executive problems. But meanwhile, the appriopration bill stayed over 4 months in NASS. So what were they doing?

Coming to the controversial issue of constituency projects, the Executive has issues with the amount budgeted by NASS for that purpose.
If implemented to the latter, the Minister is saying that the expenditure is not sustainable.
It is one thing to appropriate money, it is another to make sure that our financial state can afford such expenditure.
It's fiscal management. And the woman is working hard to end domestic borrowing for funding of the budget

dedeike:

Please try to understand me. I accused NASS for approving some insertions by some corrupt civil servants in the system. It is done with the understanding that there may be kick backs and award of contracts by those civil servants to the politicians in return.

I read in one publication that almost all the MDA's budgeted billions for furniture and equipment for 2012 and instead of NASS to quash some of these unnecessary expenditure, they approved it in the guise of not giving the executive problems. But meanwhile, the appriopration bill stayed over 4 months in NASS. So what were they doing?

Coming to the controversial issue of constituency projects, the Executive has issues with the amount budgeted by NASS for that purpose.
If implemented to the latter, the Minister is saying that the expenditure is not sustainable.
It is one thing to appropriate money, it is another to make sure that our financial state can afford such expenditure.
It's fiscal management. And the woman is working hard to end domestic borrowing for funding of the budget

dedeike:

Please try to understand me. I accused NASS for approving some insertions by some corrupt civil servants in the system. It is done with the understanding that there may be kick backs and award of contracts by those civil servants to the politicians in return.

The NASS didnt receive the proposed budget from the civil servants. it came from the presidency. Secondly, civil servants in these ministries are much more responsible to the perm sec of such who in turn is loyal to the ministers appointed by the retardeen. wont it be fair if i conclude now that those alleged insertions simply cant even be suggested without the knowing of the executives. if this is so, it suggests to me that the executives isnt in control

I read in one publication that almost all the MDA's budgeted billions for furniture and equipment for 2012 and instead of NASS to quash some of these unnecessary expenditure, they approved it in the guise of not giving the executive problems.

Even Aso Rock budgeted similar things also so it isnt new and am not in support. The issue here is all these MDA's are under authority and it basically ends in Aso-Rock. i dont believe these MDA's just act independently without authority. Of cos i would have love the NASS to have done a more critical work but of cos we have gone through this chapter before

But meanwhile, the appriopration bill stayed over 4 months in NASS. So what were they doing?

it took less than 4Months (that includes both xmas and new year break coupled with the january brouhaha) for both houses to pass the law after which the retardeen had to wait for an additional month to pass it. I can excuse the NASS, 3months plus to work on the budget isnt out of place considering the divergent views of all members but for the retardeen that had to wait till december to submit and still waited for an additional montal to pass , that to me is ridiculous.

Coming to the controversial issue of constituency projects, the Executive has issues with the amount budgeted by NASS for that purpose.
If implemented to the latter, the Minister is saying that the expenditure is not sustainable.
It is one thing to appropriate money, it is another to make sure that our financial state can afford such expenditure.
It's fiscal management.

Oga, do u even know the percentage of these so called constituency projects as against the total capital expenditure?

And the woman is working hard to end domestic borrowing for funding of the budget

u must be kidding no doubt.

Zutchy: Thank you,please keep up your endeavour to educate some of these ignorant but big mouthed fellows on this forum,keep up the good work,I wish I had the patriotic zeal and fire burning inside you,up you

lanre_front: Many of the guys defending Ngozi Iweala have said: it's because of the new policy of "not business as usual"; that Iweala is trying to be cautious and therefore delaying payments to make sure that monies released are spent on what they are meant for.

Be that as it may, even if we accede to this argument, the truth is that, it's not enough reason for such a an abysmal low level of budget implementation. There really is no tenable excuse for this; and anyone who disagrees with this does not know what a budget. It's either that or the person is full of mischief.

She should release money for budget implementation to a reasonable level and do whatever it takes to monitor that the money is spent on the items meant for, even it means forming her own special economic task force to perform this duty. Nigeria can afford it and she already has the President's maximum support.

Conclusion: 12% budget implementation of the country's budget is in-excusable no matter the reason. The House of Reps and Senate have not erred by calling her to order on this. They are doing the right thing. Are they supposed to be intimidated by her because she's from World Bank.

Kobojunkie:

Are you an eejit? What has fuel subsidy to do with a discussion on how reliable she has shown herself to be when it comes to being up-to-date(if we can say that)on information from her own ministry?

D-Explorer:

NOI has tried her best in providing neccessary information to both chambers. You wanted to drag me into her reliability on fuel subsidy probe, i won't go that lane with you on this thread. Lets talk on budget implementation and her claims which am sure she can and will defend outrightly.

dayokanu:

M0r0n, They are waiting for you to come clear your lies here

https://www.nairaland.com/1005076/massive-re-construction-enugu-ph-expressway/7#11640506

D-Explorer:

NOI has tried her best in providing neccessary information to both chambers. You wanted to drag me into her reliability on fuel subsidy probe, i won't go that lane with you on this thread. Lets talk on budget implementation and her claims which am sure she can and will defend outrightly.

dedeike:
I.mbecile. I have exhausted discussion and clarifications on that thread. It's almost about 7 pages now. Let's move ahead.
Face the new issues that I have raised on this thread and tackle it. We are on budget implementation now. Copy that

Demdem:

Exactly, infact she doesnt need to constitute any new task force whatsoever. we already have project implementation groups in various ministries, enough special advisers on project implementation etc that are being paid by govt for the singular purpose of making sure projects are done strictly to specification. what are these ones doing? she stopping funds is far beyond her powers and she is disobeying the law of the land