andromida:

looks like you have serious comprehension issues because you wrote this.Now you will protest till this thread is closed.on one hand you try to pretend that muslims reaction to the video has not followed islamic traditions on the other hand you claim muslims are serious about their religion which is why they have to fight for God according to you lev 24: 14-16 supports your claim. You further imply that christians have no respect for their scriptures and that is why blasphemy is condoned. I know you will come out with another tirade of insults subtle and loud after all it is your forte.

TroGunn:

I've explained that the Mosaic law had its relevance for Jewish nation at the time and is no longer required. It was a set of laws prescribing among other positives, punishment for murderers, fornicators, blashpemers, idolaters, etc to keep the people clean and in some cases God punished such ones directly. God eventually made the laws obsolete having served its purpose - act as a guardian till the Christ came. No one today glorifies God by committing acts of violence on his behalf. He's made it clear that vengeance is His.

TroGunn:

Now you have come full circle to accept that the violence is wrong, just as the OP said. I agree completely with the OP. You started out with support for the violence as a way of being "serious" about God and have now seen the light. Go and sin no more.

vedaxcool:

Offcourse keep dodging I am enjoying it, your claim is still hunting you, no door do you go thru does the question waits on the other side, which your claim that when God rely on man to retaliate on his behalf makes him weak and incapability. Either you retrack your claim which indicts the God who authored the old testament and whom you believe sent Jesus and it is very funny that the same Jesus said he did not come to abolish the Law yet u are here insisting such a law is repealed, now my advise to you is retrack you claim that indicts you in so many ways, coz whether God decided to repeal the law according to you, it does not remove the fact that according to you in leviticus, he once relied on man to implement justice. We further read Jesus giving a parable in which he demanded for those my enemies who do not want me to prevail upon them bring them here and slay them . . .
Now the big question is are you implying that every instruction in the bible that involves punishment are a sign of God incapability and weakness?

When did I disagree with the OP? Either you guys avoid reading post to fully understand points being made or you are outright liars who specialize in misrepresenting people statement offcourse you cannot point out where I supported violence and I challenge you to do so. Go and blaspheme no more.

"It's a very stu.pid and dum.b human that decides to revenge on hehalf of God. That human is actually mocking God as being weak and incapable of defending Himself".

vedaxcool:

Lol this is a severe case of comprehension difficulties, which claim did I make? Or were u sleepy while reading my post? Clearly I stated leviticus in response to trugun claim about humans retaliating on behalf of god shows such is weak and incapable of defending himself. And to show that u are reading upside down, my initial point was that Christians tolerate blasphemy because they mock their God in different ways (just like trugun did here), saying I further claimed this initial point of mine clearly shows you are not even reading well nor are showing you can comprehend this could be out of genuine inability to do such or deliberate ability to lie and pervert people statements.

maclatunji:
Thank you Andromida

TroGunn:

This is likely my last post on this as you enjoy playing dumb. I said:

I stand by my statement. Read it several times. It implies that the human is acting on his own to avenge on God's behalf. This is different from the laws given to the Jews in Leviticus. If you can't see the difference, then I can't help you.

Also you obviously don't understand Jesus' statement when he said he came not to abolish the law, but to fulfill it (hence making it no longer relevant). I do appreciate that you read the Bible, though without understanding because you are bent on criticism. “Christ is the end of the law for righteousness to everyone who believes” (Rom. 10:4). "But now we have been released from the law, for we died to it and are no longer captive to its power. Now we can serve God, not in the old way of obeying the letter of the law, but in the new way of living in the Spirit." (Rom7:6).

andromida:

You can colour your earlier statements as you wish. It is in bad taste to keep saying Christians tolerate blasphemy because they mock their God in different ways. A better statement would have started like this- "some Christians. No?

maclatunji:

Another interesting angle.

maclatunji: To all non-Muslims, if you cannot spell Allah or God with initial caps as you would for any other proper noun, get ready for appropriate sanctions. You don't do it in error and it shall not be tolerated henceforth.

Okija_juju: Whats the point of these threads anyways!?!

If the comments dont suit Maclatunjis taste, you either get your posts deleted or banned..


I would suggest that all muslim/Islam themed threads be left in the muslim section.. Most Nairalanders dont visit that section anyways.. But if you bring a thread to the frontpage, especially one that has to do with the reckless killing of non-muslims by Irate muslims, dont try and dictate to us how and what we should write.. The same way you reserve the right to maintain decorum on the thread, is the same way we also reserve the right to be pissed off..

A movie was done by an otherwise insignificant movie director in far away America, sponsored by a Pastor (TERRY JONES) that Christians consider to be a stark raving lunatic.. The American Government even went ahead to describe the video as 'Disgusting and reprehensible', the American Government distanced itself from the video, yet!! Hundreds of Americans and non-muslims around the world have died as a result of this movie. The would be killers wether Maclatunji likes it or not are all motivated by the same thing which is ISLAM!! This is not the first time such has happened in our history. Dont forget the Danish Cartoonist, Lets not forget Nolly Morris the Seattle Cartoonist as well. Infact, as I speak, a 2.2 Million US Dollar Fatwa is out on the head of the Florida Pastor.. In broad daylight, an assasination has been sanctioned and nobody will do anything because its ISLAM.. Any move to arrest the said person who put out the FATWA would be seen as persecuting ISLAM. Lets also not forget Theo Van Gogh who made the movie Submission (that simply spoke about the treatment of women in Islam) that was killed as well.

Look, Mr. Maclatunji.. I have been a long standing member of Nairaland (7 years and counting).. I know that I can be an arsehole atimes.. But for the sake of sanity.. Please stop bringing Islamic threads such as these to the frontpage.. You should by now know what would happen.. When lives are lost, people dont care about being politically correct. They just want to bare their minds out as it is. FFS people are angry!!. But if you know that you will not allow freedom of expression, dont put your threads on the frontpage.. NUFF SAID!

Uzzie:

I dont know if you are an atheist? but i hope you are not calling your creator a fraud!

vedaxcool:

Lol You are begining to sound like Rommny, I said what I said . . .see how your statements are hunting you, your logic is summarize as follow, Human avenging on God behalf is showing God as being incapable of defending himself yet when God mandated the Jews to stone to death blasphemers the humans were avenging for God, no? lol! the same line of reasoning simply implies that God can decide to use human to avenge for him. After quoting your real master Paul, I ask why did Paul contradict Jesus? Clearly Jesus said he did not come to abolish the law, now you then say make irrelevant i ask what language are reading the bible in? Are implying Jesus is lying or contradicting himself? How is it with the same mouth Jesus said let me put it in your terms, I did not come to abolish the law but to make it irrelevant, dude something is just not right with the way you guys reason!

vedaxcool:

Lol You are begining to sound like Rommny, I said what I said . . .see how your statements are hunting you, your logic is summarize as follow, Human avenging on God behalf is showing God as being incapable of defending himself yet when God mandated the Jews to stone to death blasphemers the humans were avenging for God, no? lol! the same line of reasoning simply implies that God can decide to use human to avenge for him. After quoting your real master Paul, I ask why did Paul contradict Jesus? Clearly Jesus said he did not come to abolish the law, now you then say make irrelevant i ask what language are reading the bible in? Are implying Jesus is lying or contradicting himself? How is it with the same mouth Jesus said let me put it in your terms, I did not come to abolish the law but to make it irrelevant, dude something is just not right with the way you guys reason!

vedaxcool:

Lol You are begining to sound like Rommny, I said what I said . . .see how your statements are hunting you, your logic is summarize as follow, Human avenging on God behalf is showing God as being incapable of defending himself yet when God mandated the Jews to stone to death blasphemers the humans were avenging for God, no? lol! the same line of reasoning simply implies that God can decide to use human to avenge for him. After quoting your real master Paul, I ask why did Paul contradict Jesus? Clearly Jesus said he did not come to abolish the law, now you then say make irrelevant i ask what language are reading the bible in? Are implying Jesus is lying or contradicting himself? How is it with the same mouth Jesus said let me put it in your terms, I did not come to abolish the law but to make it irrelevant, dude something is just not right with the way you guys reason!

infolekan:


Your power of deduction is amazing.
You cover up your ignorance with satirical comments like you're in a theatre.
Do you really have to make anyone reading this section to be so bright?
How can you pick a whole book...read a couple of lines, base all your intellectual & not so intellectual arguments on that & keep repeating yourself like a broken record against voice of reason. Andromida, Tor Gunn & others still have the patience to keep pointing out facts that will even be obvious to a Mongol(that's a derogatory statement for a retard by the way) & you keep expecting everyone to think that you're not just bright enough to understand it?
You need to drop all these childish acts really. Its just not cool anymore
And see these as a constructive advice........unless you're expecting me to literarily come & mold you

maclatunji:

It's simple, you wouldn't recognise Sahih Bukhari if your life depended on it. Yet, you went to an anti-Islamic website to quote rubbish. If you want to learn and reflect Muslims quote from us and not people whose job it is to defame Islam and who get paid to do so

Would you go to learn how to be a man from a woman or vice versa? You will never learn and improve with your pitiable outlook. You're lucky I didn't ban you.

Boomark: Obasanjo told bokoharam 'you can't win this war'. Its Obvious they can't. If they had thinking faculty, they wouldn't have started in the first place. Unless its for political gains.

The same applies to those that react violently and take innocent lives because of insult to your prophet. You Can't Win This War. Argue with all your strength and with the support of your moderator in favor of taking innocent lives for a video they knows nothing about.

Osama made hundreds to mourn, US made theirs in millions. Use common sense. Don't slap a person from a family that can slap you, your family and you extended family. Let the anger pass. Peace brings peace, violence brings pieces.

Its only a matter of time for Libya before US strike back. But i pray they have peace. If it is in their doctrine to kill for insults, then the Muslim world will know no peace.

Let peace reign. You Can't Win This War.

vemmawealth:

You are so pathetic! Who are u to term my post rubbish? Whoever put you here as mod surely made a big mistake. How did u conclude I visited a website to quote? Can u tell me which website I quoted from? I have not even said anything you are fussing all over my post. What I said is common knowledge and no matter how much the mclatunjis of this world try to cover it, it will still be exposed.

Your mind must be playing tricks on u if u expect anyone to come and learn about islam from bigoted pple like u. You even find it difficult that pple other than practicing muslims hv knowledge of islam. Among other faiths are former muslims who have revealed things your likes are trying to hide. If you like hide this and ban me, am sure u at least read it

Deceiving pervert

maclatunji:

Name calling is your favourite pastime I see. There's nothing to hide my simple-minded name-caller. However, misrepresentations will not be tolerated. How pathetic you are, your best source of information about Islam isn't Muslims? Let me know how you ever pass your exams with such dire research skills.

xtayle:

Mr. Olatunji, do you think Muslims will reel out truthful information about islam if they know it may bring embarrassment to Muhammad?

talk2xp: Islam is peace and continues to be. [size=25pt]Though am not a muslim[/size] and cant be have read the english version of the Quran and it supports peace. A book that has a full chapter on Mary with exact facts and other prophets of God. I read the revelation and birth of Christ in the Quran and it was so factual. I use to ask myself why they fight for their religion and my conclusion is that its not because they think their God cant fight but its just the deliberate actions of some people to mock another and insult them that they have issue with. But I must also add that those muslims that understands the Quran wont pick harms. Its a fact that am 100% sure about. People say its a free world but the british royal family is suing a french journalist about tarnishing the image of their family. You know what I mean "the nude pix". Nobody loves to be insulted and thats a fact! So many of factual reports of pastors been into ritual, supporting homosexuality and even conducting gay weddings. But is that Christianity? Obviously not. Please let us learn to respect the other man's faith. God is love and love is God.

talk2xp: [size=25pt]Why are we Christians such blasphemers[/size]? We talk as if our religion is all that we say it is. Let me start from the Pastors and this a facts they are nothing but entrepreneurs, Congregations I just cant say what we are here. A divisional pastor of a popular church were the head pastor "fries" his hair and has a phd messed up the life of a friend of mine that the guy became just a poo. We are not what we say we are so lets stop fooling around. I read a book by G.J.O Moshay and God have mercy all what he wrote. Another is "Islam is of the devil". And I was like WHAT! Seriously the Pastors like I said will not react because if they do, it will become an avenue to loose their mugus "congregation" to the next entrepreneur "Pastor". Some1 was asking why he cant practice Christianity in Saudi Arabia or UAE? My question to him and his kind is; Why cant a Moslem rule the US, Uk or most European countries? Abeg, Abeg, Abeg just stop this blasphemy and get real. Da Vinci or what ever its called is not in the league of some "Christian" assault to Islam. It is a known fact that BH and other terrorist group associated to Islam are nothing but "false flag" some would understand what this term means. And I must add as a student of life and history, the reason why Islam became the fastest spreading religion in the time of Muhammad was not the war but his tolerance and thats a FACT! After they conquered the enemies they moved into the city of Mecca though the Meccans expected a revenge based on the way they treated him and his followers but instead he peacefully entered the city and destroyed only the idols in Kaaba. After that they moved to Syria were they met Jews and Christians and the prophet told his followers not to impose Islam on them but to respect their religion,costitution and way of live. He never saw them as idol worshipers or unbelivers. His extraordinary lifestyle made the religion of Islam the fastest spreading religion even till date and thats a fact even against all the hates. https://www.nairaland.com/1053141/5-examples-outstanding-muslim-tolerance/6

talk2xp: Have read a whole lot of comments as regards to this post and I realise how BH is turning people from these religion into enemies. But I must say I understand the sentiment and aggression but Islam is not what you call it and a lot of us knows that and we also know that this is all politics. My anger is that Muslim leaders should also be more vocal in condemning this outcast called BH. I know am still going to be lashed out at and I still will understand but I still maintain my stand that Islam is not a religion that kills for people to accept it. I attended a Catholic school and most of my friends are Christian married to a Christian [size=25pt]and am a practicing Muslim[/size]. I understand JIHAD and this not anything synonymous to it. The Prophet (Mohammed) lived with Christians and also had a truce with Idol worshipers. BH and other terrorist groups have painted Islam bad but I say this BH are not Muslims and a man that takes his life or life of innocent people is not considered a Muslim. I halted a documentary on amajiri due to security reason and I understand the extent of the brainwashing. God is love and love is God. https://www.nairaland.com/986505/christians-should-accept-islam-no/8#11406114

tiarabubu:
You don't have to lie to put your points across. Your message is lost once you resort to lying.


This is what you wrote on this thread:






and again in another thread







[size=25pt] But[/size] this is what you wrote in yet another thread!







You dont have to lie so.


I bet you will change your posts now that you are busted huh?