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Re: The medical students and aspirants thread by oluafolabi(m): 6:46am On Sep 27, 2012
Dr young: i have always have issues with comparing one profession to the other. They all have their different department and are specialist in their various fields. I believe and i have learnt that the same way we have specialist in medicine so also in nursing and in physiotherapy. I do not know what you mean by nurses not being highly skilled: as in skilled in physio or medicine. You want them practising medicine or physio to show they are skilled. Let me say this, if they are not skilled they wouldn't be given charge of the ward for 24 hrs and to call us if things start getting weird. In US, most of them are even usurping the functions of family doctors , anaesthesiologist etc.
@ Olu,better go for medicine if you dont want somebody looking over your shoulder while you work. Medicine is not fulfilling for everybody, so if you feel you won't be fulfilled as a doctor then take up physio to doctorate level and lecture.

Lol.. Thanks for your contribution, but you are directing your last paragraph to the wrong person... Don't you think? Maybe you should try reading through the thread carefully then you should know who..
All the same I also think fulfillment is all that matters in any profession one has chosen.

@Lagusta thanks for still keeping this thread alive.. So you in your final year?.. That's a great feat.. Happy induction in advance.. Lol.. smiley
Re: The medical students and aspirants thread by Lagusta(m): 7:04am On Sep 27, 2012
oluafolabi:

Lol.. Thanks for your contribution, but you are directing your last paragraph to the wrong person... Don't you think? Maybe you should try reading through the thread carefully then you should know who..
All the same I also think fulfillment is all that matters in any profession one has chosen.

@Lagusta thanks for still keeping this thread alive.. So you in your final year?.. That's a great feat.. Happy induction in advance.. Lol.. smiley


Thanx to u too, all will be well, u shall also make it too!!!

Dr. Young, when I mean nurses are not highly skilled, I mean that they can't perform surgery, prescribe the correct drugs for the correct person, etc...


Of course they have specialties too, but does that mean a surgical nurse can perform surgery, or take care of the theatre by cleaning it, sterilizing instruments, etc...

And mind you, nurses are NOT in charge of the wards... The doctor is always in charge, that's why house officers are always there...
Re: The medical students and aspirants thread by Nobody: 8:37am On Sep 27, 2012
Lagusta:


Thanx to u too, all will be well, u shall also make it too!!!

Dr. Young, when I mean nurses are not highly skilled, I mean that they can't perform surgery, prescribe the correct drugs for the correct person, etc...


Of course they have specialties too, but does that mean a surgical nurse can perform surgery, or take care of the theatre by cleaning it, sterilizing instruments, etc...

And mind you, nurses are NOT in charge of the wards... The doctor is always in charge, that's why house officers are always there...
i understand what you are saying, the issue is this: let's not in the context of giving advice demean other professions with our comparisms.
If you follow the current primary health care policy ,you will know about midwives scheme or whatever is it's name and it successes because of the skills they possess in managing obstetrics cases.
Let us young doctors get down from our high horse and know that without any of these participating professionals: pharmacists, nurses,midwives, Chews, lab scientist,physio to mention but a few, the diagnosis and management of our patient will be difficult.

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Re: The medical students and aspirants thread by Lagusta(m): 9:43am On Sep 27, 2012
Dr young: i understand what you are saying, the issue is this: let's not in the context of giving advice demean other professions with our comparisms.
If you follow the current primary health care policy ,you will know about midwives scheme or whatever is it's name and it successes because of the skills they possess in managing obstetrics cases.
Let us young doctors get down from our high horse and know that without any of these participating professionals: pharmacists, nurses,midwives, Chews, lab scientist,physio to mention but a few, the diagnosis and management of our patient will be difficult.


Dr. Young, I also perfectly understand what you are saying, but if I may ask, which level are you
Re: The medical students and aspirants thread by Nobody: 10:07am On Sep 27, 2012
Residency things.
Re: The medical students and aspirants thread by Lagusta(m): 10:31am On Sep 27, 2012
Dr young: ^^ job hunting level, just finish my youth service.


Then you supposed to understand better...

In the lab for example, the head is still the doctor that specialized in hematology, chemical pathology, microbiology, etc.... If any test enters the lab, the lab scientist conducts it and sends the result to the doctor in charge, he checks for mistakes, errors, etc, when confirmed, he gives his diagnosis and sends to the clinic, the clinician sees the result and gives his clinical diagnosis, prescribes drugs and the nurses administer the drugs...


In essence, ONLY DOCTORS HAVE THE SOLE RESPONSIBILITY TO DIAGNOSE AND TREAT DISEASE, the nurses just act on the prescription of the drug treatment...
Re: The medical students and aspirants thread by jayone15(m): 10:51am On Sep 27, 2012
hmmm......interesting!!!!



@LAGUSTA.,wat i fink is dat watever field one is,just pray 2 b successful...presently in my town,one of d biggest private hospitals is owned by a nurse,d man is far richer dan most DOCS in d town..mind u! my town has a teaching hospital...
d man prescribes and administers drugs,many pple prefer him to many DOCS and he has a theatre in his hospital...
i even wonder sumtyms where he learnt evryfin he knows....anyway,i heard he did his own nursing in INDIA or so.
Re: The medical students and aspirants thread by Nobody: 11:07am On Sep 27, 2012
We diagnose and treat patient THAT IS CERTAIN, it is our duty and right. Maintaining a good interpersonal relationship between my co-workers and myself for efficient management of our common goal which is healthy patient is my ambition. We all have a role to play and i have to appreciate others who make an impact on the team. Cos it is a team which i am the HEAD.

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Re: The medical students and aspirants thread by Lagusta(m): 11:13am On Sep 27, 2012
jayone15: hmmm......interesting!!!!



@LAGUSTA.,wat i fink is dat watever field one is,just pray 2 b successful...presently in my town,one of d biggest private hospitals is owned by a nurse,d man is far richer dan most DOCS in d town..mind u! my town has a teaching hospital...
d man prescribes and administers drugs,many pple prefer him to many DOCS and he has a theatre in his hospital...
i even wonder sumtyms where he learnt evryfin he knows....anyway,i heard he did his own nursing in INDIA or so.


You see, things don't work out the way it supposed to be.....

In my area too, there is a nurse that also owns a private hospital, also has a theatre, that's because he has trained under a doctor in a private hospital, acquired a lot of skills, and had enough money to establish on his own... But, can that ever work even in south africa, talkless of USA, canada, etc...

Where there is no law, we do what we like. In fact, this power tussle is what is affecting us in our school now. We can't write our clinicals today cos nurses are on strike... WHY? BECAUSE THEY WANT TO BE PAID LIKE HOUSE OFFICERS!!!!
Re: The medical students and aspirants thread by Lagusta(m): 11:43am On Sep 27, 2012
Dr young: We diagnose and treat patient THAT IS CERTAIN, it is our duty and right. Maintaining a good interpersonal relationship between my co-workers and myself for efficient management of our common goal which is healthy patient is my ambition. We all have a role to play and i have to appreciate others who make an impact on the team. Cos it is a team which i am the HEAD.

Of course, we maintain interpersonal relationship with our co-workers, THEY DON'T!!!

They are so saucy, rude, annoying, and so dull... If an emergency happens, they can't do s.h!.t!!

And to cap it all, all of them, I mean it, ALL OF THEM are flirts, adulterers, fornicators, infact......
Re: The medical students and aspirants thread by tufe(m): 3:05pm On Sep 27, 2012
Lagusta:

Of course, we maintain interpersonal relationship with our co-workers, THEY DON'T!!......

I totally agree with this. Especially the nurses, they can be so rude. Although docs to a certainly level can be proud too. As for the flirtig...lolz. I see docs flirting with demselves die in my skool. Especially the female HOs.
Re: The medical students and aspirants thread by Nobody: 4:09pm On Sep 27, 2012
@ lagusta, hahahahahahahaha. Somebody is really boiling cos of his clinicals. Calm down old boy, we have to put up with the damnn shiit. We strike, they strike; power tussle. Who win; both. But often in our favour . Who lose;- our common goal, the patient.
Mind you we still have the good ones. Shiit starts flying when you look down on any of them, then you are in for a very looooooong day.
Re: The medical students and aspirants thread by Kadata(m): 4:11pm On Sep 27, 2012
Lagusta:


Dr. Young, I also perfectly understand what you are saying, but if I may ask, which level are you

Medics and the hierarchy ish. I See it never ends
Re: The medical students and aspirants thread by jayone15(m): 5:33pm On Sep 27, 2012
@LAGUSTA, What rubbish!! they want to b paid lyk house officers? those nurses av guts...do dey want to compare 7yrs wif 4yrs? anyway..i don't blame dem..u've said it all!!!
Re: The medical students and aspirants thread by Lagusta(m): 6:36pm On Sep 27, 2012
Kadata:

Medics and the hierarchy ish. I See it never ends

Bros, if u want to be a doctor, you have to bow to your elders in the line....

A med student must bow to a house officer, a house officer to a registrar, a registrar to a senior registrar, and a senior registrar to a consultant! It is even stated in the hippocratic oath....
Re: The medical students and aspirants thread by DrGboy(m): 6:50pm On Sep 27, 2012
Hi,i'm a newbie.....i jst gained admissn to unilag to study MBBS.pls i wuld lyk to know d challenges we medics face.thnks
Re: The medical students and aspirants thread by Lagusta(m): 7:11pm On Sep 27, 2012
jayone15: @LAGUSTA, What rubbish!! they want to b paid lyk house officers? those nurses av guts...do dey want to compare 7yrs wif 4yrs? anyway..i don't blame dem..u've said it all!!!

No vex jare, that's how they all are
Re: The medical students and aspirants thread by Lagusta(m): 7:14pm On Sep 27, 2012
Dr young: @ lagusta, hahahahahahahaha. Somebody is really boiling cos of his clinicals. Calm down old boy, we have to put up with the damnn shiit. We strike, they strike; power tussle. Who win; both. But often in our favour . Who lose;- our common goal, the patient.
Mind you we still have the good ones. Shiit starts flying when you look down on any of them, then you are in for a very looooooong day.

My doctor, if u see what they do to us, as if they even know half of what we know.....


But what u said abt strike is true oooo.... Na the patients go lose faa!!!
Re: The medical students and aspirants thread by Lagusta(m): 7:16pm On Sep 27, 2012
Dr.Gboy:
Hi,i'm a newbie.....i jst gained admissn to unilag to study MBBS.pls i wuld lyk to know d challenges we medics face.thnks


Hey congrats bro.... Wishin u all da best!!!

Well, your first challenge is to scale through that first year, and pass your physics, chemistry, biology, etc....
Re: The medical students and aspirants thread by DrGboy(m): 7:38pm On Sep 27, 2012
Lagusta:


Hey congrats bro.... Wishin u all da best!!!

Well, your first challenge is to scale through that first year, and pass your physics, chemistry, biology, etc....

thnks. Do u hv any idea of d CGPA required to cross over to idi-araba i mean college of medicine?
Re: The medical students and aspirants thread by Lagusta(m): 7:44pm On Sep 27, 2012
Dr.Gboy:

thnks. Do u hv any idea of d CGPA required to cross over to idi-araba i mean college of medicine?


Awwww, sorry, no idea...

Any CMUL medic here?? ?? !!
Re: The medical students and aspirants thread by ebsuguy(m): 9:10pm On Sep 27, 2012
congrants to our final year students who passed their final MBBS exam....the results was released today and am so so happy for my friend that made it....EBSU CHS
Re: The medical students and aspirants thread by Lagusta(m): 9:49pm On Sep 27, 2012
ebsuguy: congrants to our final year students who passed their final MBBS exam....the results was released today and am so so happy for my friend that made it....EBSU CHS


Hey, congrats to him, may my own too come quickly!!!
Re: The medical students and aspirants thread by Kadata(m): 9:52pm On Sep 27, 2012
Lagusta:

Bros, if u want to be a doctor, you have to bow to your elders in the line....

A med student must bow to a house officer, a house officer to a registrar, a registrar to a senior registrar, and a senior registrar to a consultant! It is even stated in the hippocratic oath....

Yes ,we know. No need overstating the obvious.
Re: The medical students and aspirants thread by Lagusta(m): 10:30pm On Sep 27, 2012
Kadata:

Yes ,we know. No need overstating the obvious.

Lol, abeg oooo!!!!!
Re: The medical students and aspirants thread by DrGboy(m): 8:18am On Sep 28, 2012
Can any1 pls help me out with parkinson's disease and atelectasis undecided
Re: The medical students and aspirants thread by Shakidor: 9:50am On Sep 28, 2012
Like l said, dis thing is becoming more interesting ooo. I wonder y docs do feel superior.........
Re: The medical students and aspirants thread by Phoenix6278(m): 12:15pm On Sep 28, 2012
Dr.Gboy:

thnks. Do u hv any idea of d CGPA required to cross over to idi-araba i mean college of medicine?
Nah CGPA ain't required, but at times, u wud really wish it was required. ♏ on a 4.82 GPA (first semester) yet ♏ not certain I will cross, its this semester's result that will determine.
Courses are grouped into Physicals, Chemicals and Biologicals, and a cumulative average of 50 is required in each group to cross to Idi-Araba. Just work hard and try to score as high as you can in each course as the grading system of A, B, C, D ...... Is pretty useless in our case. CONCENTRATE more on the physicals, that's where most students falter. Don't worry, you will be given orientation when u resume. You are free to ask me any question, hopefully, I'll be able to answer. Congrats on ur admission o, pop enough champagne o, its not easy
Re: The medical students and aspirants thread by DrGboy(m): 1:49pm On Sep 28, 2012
Phoenix6278:
Nah CGPA ain't required, but at times, u wud really wish it was required. ♏ on a 4.82 GPA (first semester) yet ♏ not certain I will cross, its this semester's result that will determine.
Courses are grouped into Physicals, Chemicals and Biologicals, and a cumulative average of 50 is required in each group to cross to Idi-Araba. Just work hard and try to score as high as you can in each course as the grading system of A, B, C, D ...... Is pretty useless in our case. CONCENTRATE more on the physicals, that's where most students falter. Don't worry, you will be given orientation when u resume. You are free to ask me any question, hopefully, I'll be able to answer. Congrats on ur admission o, pop enough champagne o, its not easy
thanks, yeah we need to pop champagne,but dat will be sm oda tym.it wasn't easy at all to beat d cutoff,it went thru hell...thank God i made it thru dat rigorous admissn process even though it wz my first attempt at JAMB.as for the physicals,that won't be any problem by God's grace.ur CGPA of 4.82 is totally impresive,i'm sure u'll cross over nxt semester.cheesy
Re: The medical students and aspirants thread by ebsuguy(m): 3:03pm On Sep 28, 2012
Dr.Gboy:
Can any1 pls help me out with parkinson's disease and atelectasis undecided
parkinson disease from the little av learnt...it is an inborn error of metabolism owing to the dopamine produce by the substangial negra of the brain not equalising the acetylcholine at the muscle end plates....hence the individual have motor movement problem....*i heard una 1st lady get am*....atelactasis or patchy atelactasis...what i know is dat it is the collapse of the lungs owing to the alveoli type 2 cells unable to produce surfactant which prevents the alveoli from collapsing....beractant can be administered to help a little....i think dat is the little i know from medical biochemistry and resipatroy physiology...sorry i dont know much am stimm in pre-clinicals...EBSU CHS...
Re: The medical students and aspirants thread by Phoenix6278(m): 3:07pm On Sep 28, 2012
Dr.Gboy:
thanks, yeah we need to pop champagne,but dat will be sm oda tym.it wasn't easy at all to beat d cutoff,it went thru hell...thank God i made it thru dat rigorous admissn process even though it wz my first attempt at JAMB.as for the physicals,that won't be any problem by God's grace.ur CGPA of 4.82 is totally impresive,i'm sure u'll cross over nxt semester.cheesy
You must be a genius o, not only beat the cut off but it was your first attempt! Sir, congrats again. Yeah, admission process in Unilag is always rigorous, you guys were even lucky, the cut-off was 76 during my time. I thank God I made it though. Lol, Amen and amen by God's grace. Some guys made 5.0 GPA so its not a big deal. How far have you gone with clearance, that's one stressful process o
Re: The medical students and aspirants thread by DrGboy(m): 3:14pm On Sep 28, 2012
ebsuguy:
parkinson disease from the little av learnt...it is an inborn error of metabolism owing to the dopamine produce by the substangial negra of the brain not equalising the acetylcholine at the muscle end plates....hence the individual have motor movement problem....*i heard una 1st lady get am*....atelactasis or patchy atelactasis...what i know is dat it is the collapse of the lungs owing to the alveoli type 2 cells unable to produce surfactant which prevents the alveoli from collapsing....beractant can be administered to help a little....i think dat is the little i know from medical biochemistry and resipatroy physiology...sorry i dont know much am stimm in pre-clinicals...EBSU CHS...
Yap, dat's correct!!! Thnks. Do u also know that most babies born prematurely are at risk of being deficient in surfactant.because it is produced in d foetus at abt 23 wks old and therefore premature babies suffer from high surface tension in d alveoli.

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