Khaffi: Now dat's 1 hell of a stupid statement from a useless fool

I think you're the fool here.

just wait and see. Some 'true Muslims' will claim that those who carried out these acts are not 'real muslims' like themselves

Islam - The religion of Pieces indeed

berem: ALLAHU AKBAR!! Am still looking for the head of the anti-islam film producer! "Cleaning my AK47"

See dem girls. Peace biko

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[quote author=kayClt]Hmmmmmmm,only God can serve us in dis country and tmrw our president will cum n give a useless condolence speech,I wonder what is really under his hat becos am not sure his brains r dere [Pls enough of dis joor,muslims started killing christians many years ago b4 GEj bcame president so pls stop blaming him n advice those blood sucking demons 2 stop killing innocent pipu

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Woe to those who rejoice when blood is spilled, woe to those who try to justify the death of the innocent, woe to those who think they are making a point by taking the life of others, woe to those who think by taking the life of men, women and children their god will approve of them, for like the dinosaurs of old they will surely go extinct. We are made in His image (xtians, muslims,trad and atheists) and you can't kill and claim you love God. May the souls of the departed rest in peace.

People that don't travel out just show how ignorant they are about Nigeria. Thats why they keep shouting divide nigeria, let christians leave the north. They dont know that there are christians that are from these states and have no where to go to. And some have stayed along while there and can not find it easy relocating just as you to will nt find it easy relocating to the north. And if you are not there you will just not understand.

omicron: So sad. BH strikes when they want. So sad its the innocent people that will pay for the Government's inconpetence with their lives. JTF will be busy shooting DEAD anybody they can sight, as if killing suspects will end it, instead of gathering enough intelligence to prevent further attacks. And someone will pop up now to tell us to they are on top of the situation. Life really does not mean anything in Nigeria. Very sad.

r u aware dat a US ambasador wz killed right inside a US embassy,u think is easy 2 fight terrorism

Jettage: Today again, Muslims in the name of Allah invaded a Catholic Church in Bauchi in obedience to the violent instructions contained in the Quran; It is clearer every day that Islam is Demonic and handed to Mohammad by a demon to fulfil the destruction agenda of Satan. TO KILL, STEAL, and DESTROY I am particularly touched that Christians have not carried out a vengeful retaliation because Jesus Teaching opposed revenge, Yesterday Muslims in Kano burnt the American Flag and Isreali Flag in anger against a film they have not even watch
The Quran contains at least 109 verses that call Muslims to war with nonbelievers for the sake of Islamic rule. Some are quite graphic, with commands to chop off heads and fingers and kill infidels wherever they may be hiding. Muslims who do not join the fight are called 'hypocrites' and warned that Allah will send them to Hell if they do not join the slaughter.
Quran (2:191-193) - "And slay them wherever ye find them, and drive them out of the places whence they drove you out, for persecution [of Muslims] is worse than slaughter [of non-believers]... but if they desist, then lo! Allah is forgiving and merciful. And fight them until persecution is no more, and religion is for Allah."
The historical context of this passage is not defensive warfare, since Muhammad and his Muslims had just relocated to Medina and were not under attack by their Meccan adversaries. In fact, the verses urge offensive warfare, in that Muslims are to drive Meccans out of their own city (which they later did). The use of the word "persecution" by some Muslim translators is thus disingenuous (the actual Muslim words for persecution - "idtihad" - and oppression - a variation of "z-l-m" - do not appear in the verse). The actual Arabic comes from "fitna" which can mean disbelief, or the disorder that results from unbelief or temptation. Taken as a whole, the context makes clear that violence is being authorized until "religion is for Allah" - ie. unbelievers desist in their unbelief.

Quran (2:244) - "Then fight in the cause of Allah, and know that Allah Heareth and knoweth all things."

Quran (2:216) - "Fighting is prescribed for you, and ye dislike it. But it is possible that ye dislike a thing which is good for you, and that ye love a thing which is bad for you. But Allah knoweth, and ye know not." Not only does this verse establish that violence can be virtuous, but it also contradicts the myth that fighting is intended only in self-defense, since the audience was obviously not under attack at the time. From the Hadith, we know that this verse was narrated at a time that Muhammad was actually trying to motivate his people into raiding merchant caravans for loot.

Quran (3:56) - "As to those who reject faith, I will punish them with terrible agony in this world and in the Hereafter, nor will they have anyone to help."

Quran (3:151) - "Soon shall We cast terror into the hearts of the Unbelievers, for that they joined companions with Allah, for which He had sent no authority". This speaks directly of polytheists, yet it also includes Christians, since they believe in the Trinity (ie. what Muhammad incorrectly believed to be 'joining companions to Allah').

Quran (4:74) - "Let those fight in the way of Allah who sell the life of this world for the other. Whoso fighteth in the way of Allah, be he slain or be he victorious, on him We shall bestow a vast reward." The martyrs of Islam are unlike the early Christians, led meekly to the slaughter. These Muslims are killed in battle, as they attempt to inflict death and destruction for the cause of Allah. Here is the theological basis for today's suicide bombers.

Quran (4:76) - "Those who believe fight in the cause of Allah…"

Quran (4:89) - "They but wish that ye should reject Faith, as they do, and thus be on the same footing (as they): But take not friends from their ranks until they flee in the way of Allah (From what is forbidden). But if they turn renegades, seize them and slay them wherever ye find them; and (in any case) take no friends or helpers from their ranks."

Quran (4:95) - "Not equal are those believers who sit (at home) and receive no hurt, and those who strive and fight in the cause of Allah with their goods and their persons. Allah hath granted a grade higher to those who strive and fight with their goods and persons than to those who sit (at home). Unto all (in Faith) Hath Allah promised good: But those who strive and fight Hath He distinguished above those who sit (at home) by a special reward,-" This passage criticizes "peaceful" Muslims who do not join in the violence, letting them know that they are less worthy in Allah's eyes. It also demolishes the modern myth that "Jihad" doesn't mean holy war in the Quran, but rather a spiritual struggle. Not only is the Arabic word used in this passage, but it is clearly not referring to anything spiritual, since the physically disabled are given exemption. (The Hadith reveals the context of the passage to be in response to a blind man's protest that he is unable to engage in Jihad and this is reflected in other translations of the verse).

Quran (4:104) - "And be not weak hearted in pursuit of the enemy; if you suffer pain, then surely they (too) suffer pain as you suffer pain..." Is pursuing an injured and retreating enemy really an act of self-defense?

Quran (5:33) - "The punishment of those who wage war against Allah and His messenger and strive to make mischief in the land is only this, that they should be murdered or crucified or their hands and their feet should be cut off on opposite sides or they should be imprisoned; this shall be as a disgrace for them in this world, and in the hereafter they shall have a grievous chastisement"

Quran (8:12) - "I will cast terror into the hearts of those who disbelieve. Therefore strike off their heads and strike off every fingertip of them" No reasonable person would interpret this to mean a spiritual struggle.

Quran (8:15) - "O ye who believe! When ye meet those who disbelieve in battle, turn not your backs to them. (16)Whoso on that day turneth his back to them, unless maneuvering for battle or intent to join a company, he truly hath incurred wrath from Allah, and his habitation will be hell, a hapless journey's end."

Quran (8:39) - "And fight with them until there is no more fitna (disorder, unbelief) and religion should be only for Allah" Some translations interpret "fitna" as "persecution", but the traditional understanding of this word is not supported by the historical context (See notes for 2:293, also). The Meccans were simply refusing Muhammad access to their city during Haj. Other Muslims were allowed to travel there - just not as an armed group, since Muhammad had declared war on Mecca prior to his eviction. The Meccans were also acting in defense of their religion, since it was Muhammad's intention to destroy their idols and establish Islam by force (which he later did). Hence the critical part of this verse is to fight until "religion is only for Allah", meaning that the true justification of violence was the unbelief of the opposition. According to the Sira (Ibn Ishaq/Hisham 324) Muhammad further explains that "Allah must have no rivals."

Quran (8:57) - "If thou comest on them in the war, deal with them so as to strike fear in those who are behind them, that haply they may remember."

Quran (8:59-60) - "And let not those who disbelieve suppose that they can outstrip (Allah's Purpose). Lo! they cannot escape. Make ready for them all thou canst of (armed) force and of horses tethered, that thereby ye may dismay the enemy of Allah and your enemy."

Quran (8:65) - "O Prophet, exhort the believers to fight..."

Quran (9:5) - "So when the sacred months have passed away, then slay the idolaters wherever you find them, and take them captives and besiege them and lie in wait for them in every ambush, then if they repent and keep up prayer and pay the poor-rate, leave their way free to them." According to this verse, the best way of staying safe from Muslim violence is to convert to Islam. Prayer (salat) and the poor tax (zakat) are among the religion's Five Pillars.

Quran (9:14) - "Fight them, Allah will punish them by your hands and bring them to disgrace..."

Quran (9:20) - "Those who believe, and have left their homes and striven with their wealth and their lives in Allah's way are of much greater worth in Allah's sight. These are they who are triumphant." The "striving" spoken of here is Jihad (Arabic).

Quran (9:29) - "Fight those who believe not in Allah nor the Last Day, nor hold that forbidden which hath been forbidden by Allah and His Messenger, nor acknowledge the religion of Truth, (even if they are) of the People of the Book, until they pay the Jizya with willing submission, and feel themselves subdued." "People of the Book" refers to Christians and Jews. This was one of the final "revelations" from Allah and it set in motion the tenacious military expansion, in which Muhammad's companions managed to conquer two-thirds of the Christian world in the next 100 years. Islam is intended to dominate all other people and faiths.

Quran (9:30) - "And the Jews say: Ezra is the son of Allah; and the Christians say: The Messiah is the son of Allah; these are the words of their mouths; they imitate the saying of those who disbelieved before; may Allah destroy them; how they are turned away!"

Quran (9:38-39) - "O ye who believe! what is the matter with you, that, when ye are asked to go forth in the cause of Allah, ye cling heavily to the earth? Do ye prefer the life of this world to the Hereafter? But little is the comfort of this life, as compared with the Hereafter. Unless ye go forth, He will punish you with a grievous penalty, and put others in your place." This is a warning to those who refuse to fight, that they will be punished with Hell.

Quran (9:41) - "Go forth, light-armed and heavy-armed, and strive with your wealth and your lives in the way of Allah! That is best for you if ye but knew." See also the verse that follows (9:42) - "If there had been immediate gain (in sight), and the journey easy, they would (all) without doubt have followed thee, but the distance was long, (and weighed) on them" This contradicts the myth that Muslims are to fight only in self-defense, since the wording implies that battle will be waged a long distance from home (in another country and on Christian soil, in this case, according to the historians).

Quran (9:73) - "O Prophet! strive hard against the unbelievers and the hypocrites and be unyielding to them; and their abode is hell, and evil is the destination." Dehumanizing those who reject Islam, by reminding Muslims that they are merely firewood for Hell, makes it easier to justify slaughter. It also explains why today's devout Muslims have little regard for those outside the faith.

Quran (9:88) - "But the Messenger, and those who believe with him, strive and fight with their wealth and their persons: for them are (all) good things: and it is they who will prosper."

Quran (9:111) - "Allah hath purchased of the believers their persons and their goods; for theirs (in return) is the garden (of Paradise): they fight in His cause, and slay and are slain: a promise binding on Him in truth, through the Law, the Gospel, and the Quran: and who is more faithful to his covenant than Allah? then rejoice in the bargain which ye have concluded: that is the achievement supreme."

Quran (9:123) - "O you who believe! fight those of the unbelievers who are near to you and let them find in you hardness."

Quran (17:16) - "And when We wish to destroy a town, We send Our commandment to the people of it who lead easy lives, but they transgress therein; thus the word proves true against it, so We destroy it with utter destruction." Note that the crime is moral transgression, and the punishment is "utter destruction." (Before ordering the 9/11 attacks, Osama bin Laden first issued Americans an invitation to Islam).

Quran (18:65-81) - This parable lays the theological groundwork for honor killings, in which a family member is murdered because they brought shame to the family, either through apostasy or perceived moral indiscretion. The story (which is not found in any Jewish or Christian source) tells of Moses encountering a man with "special knowledge" who does things which don't seem to make sense on the surface, but are then justified according to later explanation. One such action is to murder a youth for no apparent reason (74). However, the wise man later explains that it was feared that the boy would "grieve" his parents by "disobedience and ingratitude." He was killed so that Allah could provide them a 'better' son. (Note: This is one reason why honor killing is sanctioned by Sharia. Reliance of the Traveler (Umdat al-Saliq) says that punishment for murder is not applicable when a parent or grandparent kills their offspring (o.1.1-2).)

Quran (21:44) - "We gave the good things of this life to these men and their fathers until the period grew long for them; See they not that We gradually reduce the land (in their control) from its outlying borders? Is it then they who will win?"

Quran (25:52) - "Therefore listen not to the Unbelievers, but strive against them with the utmost strenuousness..." "Strive against" is Jihad - obviously not in the personal context. It's also significant to point out that this is a Meccan verse.

Quran (33:60-62) - "If the hypocrites, and those in whose hearts is a disease, and the alarmists in the city do not cease, We verily shall urge thee on against them, then they will be your neighbors in it but a little while. Accursed, they will be seized wherever found and slain with a (fierce) slaughter." This passage sanctions the slaughter (rendered "merciless" and "horrible murder" in other translations) against three groups: Hypocrites (Muslims who refuse to "fight in the way of Allah" (3:167) and hence don't act as Muslims should), those with "diseased hearts" (which include Jews and Christians 5:51-52), and "alarmists" or "agitators who include those who merely speak out against Islam, according to Muhammad's biographers. It is worth noting that the victims are to be sought out by Muslims, which is what today's terrorists do. If this passage is meant merely to apply to the city of Medina, then it is unclear why it is included in Allah's eternal word to Muslim generations.

Quran (47:3-4) - "Those who reject Allah follow vanities, while those who believe follow the truth from their lord. Thus does Allah set forth form men their lessons by similitude. Therefore when you meet in battle those who disbelieve, then smite the necks until when you have overcome them, then make (them) prisoners," Those who reject Allah are to be subdued in battle. The verse goes on to say the only reason Allah doesn't do the dirty work himself is in order to to test the faithfulness of Muslims. Those who kill pass the test. "But if it had been Allah's Will, He could certainly have exacted retribution from them (Himself); but (He lets you fight) in order to test you, some with others. But those who are slain in the Way of Allah,- He will never let their deeds be lost."

Quran (47:35) - "Be not weary and faint-hearted, crying for peace, when ye should be uppermost (Shakir: "have the upper hand" for Allah is with you,"

Quran (48:17) - "There is no blame for the blind, nor is there blame for the lame, nor is there blame for the sick (that they go not forth to war). And whoso obeyeth Allah and His messenger, He will make him enter Gardens underneath which rivers flow; and whoso turneth back, him will He punish with a painful doom." Contemporary apologists sometimes claim that Jihad means 'spiritual struggle.' Is so, then why are the blind, lame and sick exempted? This verse also says that those who do not fight will suffer torment in hell.

Quran (48:29) - "Muhammad is the messenger of Allah. And those with him are hard (ruthless) against the disbelievers and merciful among themselves" Islam is not about treating everyone equally. There are two very distinct standards that are applied based on religious status. Also the word used for 'hard' or 'ruthless' in this verse shares the same root as the word translated as 'painful' or severe' in verse 16.

Quran (61:4) - "Surely Allah loves those who fight in His way" Religion of Peace, indeed! This is followed by (61:9): "He it is who has sent His Messenger (Mohammed) with guidance and the religion of truth (Islam) to make it victorious over all religions even though the infidels may resist."

Quran (61:10-12) - "O ye who believe! Shall I lead you to a bargain that will save you from a grievous Penalty?- That ye believe in Allah and His Messenger, and that ye strive (your utmost) in the Cause of Allah, with your property and your persons: That will be best for you, if ye but knew! He will forgive you your sins, and admit you to Gardens beneath which Rivers flow, and to beautiful mansions in Gardens of Eternity." This verse was given in battle. It uses the Arabic word, Jihad.

Quran (66:9) - "O Prophet! Strive against the disbelievers and the hypocrites, and be stern with them. Hell will be their home, a hapless journey's end." The root word of "Jihad" is used again here. The context is clearly holy war, and the scope of violence is broadened to include "hypocrites" - those who call themselves Muslims but do not act as such.


From the Hadith:

Bukhari (52:177) - Allah's Apostle said, "The Hour will not be established until you fight with the Jews, and the stone behind which a Jew will be hiding will say. "O Muslim! There is a Jew hiding behind me, so kill him."

Bukhari (52:256) - The Prophet... was asked whether it was permissible to attack the pagan warriors at night with the probability of exposing their women and children to danger. The Prophet replied, "They (i.e. women and children) are from them (i.e. pagans)." In this command, Muhammad establishes that it is permissible to kill non-combatants in the process of killing a perceived enemy. This provides justification for the many Islamic terror bombings.

Bukhari (52:220) - Allah's Apostle said... 'I have been made victorious with terror'

Abu Dawud (14:2526) - The Prophet (peace_be_upon_him) said: Three things are the roots of faith: to refrain from (killing) a person who utters, "There is no god but Allah" and not to declare him unbeliever whatever sin he commits, and not to excommunicate him from Islam for his any action; and jihad will be performed continuously since the day Allah sent me as a prophet until the day the last member of my community will fight with the Dajjal (Antichrist)

Abu Dawud (14:2527) - The Prophet said: Striving in the path of Allah (jihad) is incumbent on you along with every ruler, whether he is pious or impious

Muslim (1:33) - the Messenger of Allah said: I have been commanded to fight against people till they testify that there is no god but Allah, that Muhammad is the messenger of Allah

Bukhari (8:387) - Allah's Apostle said, "I have been ordered to fight the people till they say: 'None has the right to be worshipped but Allah'. And if they say so, pray like our prayers, face our Qibla and slaughter as we slaughter, then their blood and property will be sacred to us and we will not interfere with them except legally."

Muslim (1:30) - "The Messenger of Allah said: I have been commanded to fight against people so long as they do not declare that there is no god but Allah."

Muslim (1:149) - "Abu Dharr reported: I said: Messenger of Allah, which of the deeds is the best? He (the Holy Prophet) replied: Belief in Allah and Jihad in His cause..."

Muslim (20:4645) - "...He (the Messenger of Allah) did that and said: There is another act which elevates the position of a man in Paradise to a grade one hundred (higher), and the elevation between one grade and the other is equal to the height of the heaven from the earth. He (Abu Sa'id) said: What is that act? He replied: Jihad in the way of Allah! Jihad in the way of Allah!"

Muslim (20:4696) - "the Messenger of Allah (may peace be upon him) said: 'One who died but did not fight in the way of Allah nor did he express any desire (or determination) for Jihid died the death of a hypocrite.'"

Muslim (19:4321-4323) - Three separate hadith in which Muhammad shrugs over the news that innocent children were killed in a raid by his men against unbelievers. His response: "They are of them (meaning the enemy)."

Muslim (19:4294) - "When the Messenger of Allah (may peace be upon him) appointed anyone as leader of an army or detachment he would especially exhort him... He would say: Fight in the name of Allah and in the way of Allah. Fight against those who disbelieve in Allah. Make a holy war... When you meet your enemies who are polytheists, invite them to three courses of action. If they respond to any one of these, you also accept it and withhold yourself from doing them any harm. Invite them to (accept) Islam; if they respond to you, accept it from them and desist from fighting against them... If they refuse to accept Islam, demand from them the Jizya. If they agree to pay, accept it from them and hold off your hands. If they refuse to pay the tax, seek Allah's help and fight them.

Tabari 7:97 The morning after the murder of Ashraf, the Prophet declared, "Kill any Jew who falls under your power." Ashraf was a poet, killed by Muhammad's men because he insulted Islam. Here, Muhammad widens the scope of his orders to kill. An innocent Jewish businessman was then slain by his Muslim partner, merely for being non-Muslim.

Tabari 9:69 "Killing Unbelievers is a small matter to us" The words of Muhammad, prophet of Islam.

Tabari 17:187 "'By God, our religion (din) from which we have departed is better and more correct than that which these people follow. Their religion does not stop them from shedding blood, terrifying the roads, and seizing properties.' And they returned to their former religion." The words of a group of Christians who had converted to Islam, but realized their error after being shocked by the violence and looting committed in the name of Allah. The price of their decision to return to a religion of peace was that the men were beheaded and the woman and children enslaved by the caliph Ali.

Ibn Ishaq/Hisham 327: - “Allah said, ‘A prophet must slaughter before collecting captives. A slaughtered enemy is driven from the land. Muhammad, you craved the desires of this world, its goods and the ransom captives would bring. But Allah desires killing them to manifest the religion.’”

Ibn Ishaq/Hisham 990: - Lest anyone think that cutting off someone's head while screaming 'Allah Akbar!' is a modern creation, here is an account of that very practice under Muhammad, who seems to approve.

Ibn Ishaq/Hisham 992: - "Fight everyone in the way of Allah and kill those who disbelieve in Allah." Muhammad's instructions to his men prior to a military raid.

Plsss.Don't bore this page with all these FAKE voluminous quoran you don't live by. To me, it fit for pre-nursery rhyme.Afterall, If your stUP*id Mohammad had lived right you would have been following his steps.

@jettage

You are obviously "an expert in Islamic knowledge".

There is no way we can have a united Nigeria if we all go about copying and pasting lies about each other's religion. The issue of boko Haram deserves the attention of all well-meaning Nigerians regardless of which faith you practise. But when people leave the substance and go after the shadow, then it leaves a sour taste in the mouth.

All your quotations are blatant lies and I challenge you to a face to face debate on this. Lifting a verse out of contents or distorting the truth is a trademark of some Christians using the internet to mislead the people. There are many of such sites that we know. Using the excuse of boko haram to discredit other's faith is not the ideal way to go about it.

As Muslims, we pray to see the end of evil organizations such as Boko haram very soon and all those behind them shall be put to shame. We also pray that may those souls (Muslims or Christians ) that have departed as a result of the evil acts of Boko Haram rest in peace.

@jettage

You are obviously "an expert in Islamic knowledge".

There is no way we can have a united Nigeria if we all go about copying and pasting lies about each other's religion. The issue of boko Haram deserves the attention of all well-meaning Nigerians regardless of which faith you practise. But when people leave the substance and go after the shadow, then it leaves a sour taste in the mouth.

All your quotations are blatant lies and I challenge you to a face to face debate on this. Lifting a verse out of contents or distorting the truth is a trademark of some Christians using the internet to mislead the people. There are many of such sites that we know. Using the excuse of boko haram to discredit other's faith is not the ideal way to go about it.

As Muslims, we pray to see the end of evil organizations such as Boko haram very soon and all those behind them shall be put to shame. We also pray that may those souls (Muslims or Christians ) that have departed as a result of the evil acts of Boko Haram rest in peace.

Remzolution: Is it a repraisal as a result of its captured leader or taking out of anger because of the anti-islamic movie? These folks believe fighting for their god is obligatory. Shall we still sit back while they wear away our numbers? Impossible!

Brother, we shall refuse to be incited. God forgive them for they know not what they are doing

page9: I have read through all the posts so far on this thread and I can't make any sense of any. What I see largely is a
set of uninformed Nigerians.

I do not in anyway think Book Haram as an organization represent Islam or Muslim in anyway. I am a Yoruba man and a Muslim. My immediate elder sister is a Christian and her children stays with me and still go to church and practise whatever suits them. 100% of my employees are Christians except my driver. A good number of them are from south-east and south-south. I bet you all have interacted with good Muslims either as a neighbour, colleagues, business partners etc . There are bad Christians too and a sweeping generalisation of every Muslim, passing derogatory comments about Allah and Prophet Mohammad is not expected of anyone who has objective assessment of the true situation of things

As for the Arab world, the information out now shows that some of the Ghadafi loyalists carried out the attack against US consular leading to the death of the U.S ambassador Bengazi. For those of who care to observe, Muslims differs according to location. While Islam is a universal religion and is the same all over the world, Culture and environment and possibly education affects to a large extent the personality of Muslims. in different regions (same for Christians or other adherents of different faiths too). I can speak better for my area (South-west).

Now, back to boko haram, more Muslims have died than Christians since the advent of boko haram. I visit the north often and I know that. The same boko Haram sent a suicide bomber to attacked shehu of Borno some weeks back during a Friday Prayer and the shehu narrowly escape death leaving some worshippers and the young suicide bomber dead. Boko Haram as it is today is a political organisation out to discredit the Jonathan govt. Anyone who does not support them is an enemy whether you are a christian, muslim or atheist, it doesn't matter.The people behind them are well known to the powers that be and those few well connected and well informed Nigerians.

President of CAN went to U.S.A to convince U.S govt to enlist Boko Haram as one of the terrorists organizations but the U.S govt refuse and actually announced last week that with the information and reliable intelligence gathered so far on Boko Haram, the make up of the group, their agenda and goals is at variance with that of Islam. The press is responsible for the statement that their goal is to Islamist Nigeria and convert Jonathan to a Muslim (a laughable goal at that!). The people behind them are well-known? politicians and powerful Nigerian across the regions. Q.E. D. Their case is of " the more you look, the less you see"

I therefore urge the forum members to be objective in their comments and practise self-restrain. No religion or creed has a monopoly of good or bad people, it all depends on how you see issues.

I was enjoying ur post till u got 2 d part abt boko killing more muslims than Christians.. U lied.. Those that were killed in kogi, adamawa, kaduna, bauchi, etc were they muslims.. To the best of my knowledge it was only that bomb blast in kano that killed muslims because they were in the vicinity. Don't cm here trying 2 insult our intelligence, when the suicide bomber attackd d shehu of bornu why didn't he use d same method they use when they are attacking Christians?.. Why nt drive a bomb ladden car straight to d mosque?.

what can we say? in every thing give thanks so thank you Lord for what has happened and also thank you that this Boko Haram idea is coming to an end. AMEN

God av mercy...

page9: I have read through all the posts so far on this thread and I can't make any sense of any. What I see largely is a
set of uninformed Nigerians.

I do not in anyway think Book Haram as an organization represent Islam or Muslim in anyway. I am a Yoruba man and a Muslim. My immediate elder sister is a Christian and her children stays with me and still go to church and practise whatever suits them. 100% of my employees are Christians except my driver. A good number of them are from south-east and south-south. I bet you all have interacted with good Muslims either as a neighbour, colleagues, business partners etc . There are bad Christians too and a sweeping generalisation of every Muslim, passing derogatory comments about Allah and Prophet Mohammad is not expected of anyone who has objective assessment of the true situation of things

As for the Arab world, the information out now shows that some of the Ghadafi loyalists carried out the attack against US consular leading to the death of the U.S ambassador Bengazi. For those of who care to observe, Muslims differs according to location. While Islam is a universal religion and is the same all over the world, Culture and environment and possibly education affects to a large extent the personality of Muslims. in different regions (same for Christians or other adherents of different faiths too). I can speak better for my area (South-west).

Now, back to boko haram, more Muslims have died than Christians since the advent of boko haram. I visit the north often and I know that. The same boko Haram sent a suicide bomber to attacked shehu of Borno some weeks back during a Friday Prayer and the shehu narrowly escape death leaving some worshippers and the young suicide bomber dead. Boko Haram as it is today is a political organisation out to discredit the Jonathan govt. Anyone who does not support them is an enemy whether you are a christian, muslim or atheist, it doesn't matter.The people behind them are well known to the powers that be and those few well connected and well informed Nigerians.

President of CAN went to U.S.A to convince U.S govt to enlist Boko Haram as one of the terrorists organizations but the U.S govt refuse and actually announced last week that with the information and reliable intelligence gathered so far on Boko Haram, the make up of the group, their agenda and goals is at variance with that of Islam. The press is responsible for the statement that their goal is to Islamist Nigeria and convert Jonathan to a Muslim (a laughable goal at that!). The people behind them are well-known? politicians and powerful Nigerian across the regions. Q.E. D. Their case is of " the more you look, the less you see"

I therefore urge the forum members to be objective in their comments and practise self-restrain. No religion or creed has a monopoly of good or bad people, it all depends on how you see issues.

Agree wit most of what you wrote here- probably the most sensible comment on this thread so far....however, it is the DUTY of moderate muslims(who are in the majority) to fight to take back their religion from the significant madmen(fanatics) that are defining d narrative presently; they must fight to make that their own narrative of the religion(its true position) is the prevailing one out there, just as some Xtians did sm few hundred years ago when sm person sought to capture their religion. The problem is that most nonMuslims do not feel like these moderate muslims are doing enough; and in my view for good reason. Untill this changes most ppl(including sm muslims) may not take the points you just so succiently stated seriously, even if they are mostly sensible....Regards

Boko haram had killed more muslim than christians. So they are all our enemies let join hand to fight the devils.

NTA said 3 people died and 48 people were injured.

Super1759: that is it there father's land is no reason to get stick to the place.am sure you that wrote this.where you are now isn't your father's land.you can migrate for reasons. Seeing that the land isn't safe anymore,there are nearby states and cities.
Or if you die in the war-land a christian,God won't give a credit for that

I have friends from Bauchi that are Christians. Remember King Ahab in d bible? Pity unto me I give you my birthright. The native residents should not run. Protect and defend yourselves with prayers and any other means cos prayer without work is rubbish!!!
I implore all my Christian peeps all over the northern Nigeria to defend yourselves with prayers and any other means.

@passionate88

I didn't' post for you to enjoy.

The truth of the matter is that whether Muslims or Christians, those deaths were needless. Human lives should be sacred and preserved. I expected reactions to my posts because the truth is bitter. But, I'd like to ask you where you''re based and if you''ve travelled to the north lately? If you get 100% of you information through the media, then i will not blame you. But those who reside in bauch, borno, gombe etc which i have visit regularly will tell you that these bastards care less about your faith when they carry out their attacks.

Let us unite(Muslims and Christians) against the EVIL BOKO HARAM! Let us stop attacking each h other's religion lest we play into their hands and help them fulfill their objective. We shall not allow them to break the country because we have no where to go to if they succeed (God forbid).


Indeed, it is true that they tend to target the church more but that is with the aim of turning muslims against christians and make the country ''un-governable". The truth is bitter but for those who can see beyond their nose, The Boko Haram was never part of Nigeria until Jonathan came to power. Believe it or not, the leadership's ship of this organisation believe that turning Muslims against the Christians is the easiest way to break Nigeria.

the suicidal was even a christian < chukwudi> so what the noise all about

@passionate88

I didn't' post for you to enjoy.

The truth of the matter is that whether Muslims or Christians, those deaths were needless. Human lives should be sacred and preserved. I expected reactions to my posts because the truth is bitter. But, I'd like to ask you where you''re based and if you''ve travelled to the north lately? If you get 100% of you information through the media, then i will not blame you. But those who reside in bauch, borno, gombe etc which i have visit regularly will tell you that these bastards care less about your faith when they carry out their attacks.

Let us unite(Muslims and Christians) against the EVIL BOKO HARAM! Let us stop attacking each h other's religion lest we play into their hands and help them fulfill their objective. We shall not allow them to break the country because we have no where to go to if they succeed (God forbid).


Indeed, it is true that they tend to target the church more but that is with the aim of turning muslims against christians and make the country ''un-governable". The truth is bitter but for those who can see beyond their nose, The Boko Haram was never part of Nigeria until Jonathan came to power. Believe it or not, the leadership's ship of this organisation believe that turning Muslims against the Christians is the easiest way to break Nigeria.

@ taharqa

I don't think the terrorists the world over are up to one percent of the Muslims. In Nigeria, bok har am members are not easy to identify because they are clandestine organisation. In Gombe state where I just came back recently, a fellow Muslim and his entire family member was wiped out by the sect for suspecting the man to be a JTF informant. Most people are afraid to talk about them let alone make any move. Attorney general of borno state was killed by the same bastards last week or so?

The north as a region stands to loose more and more as people who can help develop the region leave in droves. Remember the united nation building bombing? How do you connect that to religion? What has the authorities. done with those members arrested to date?

The media sometimes paint multiple pictures of the same event. While channels tv said only the suicide bomber died, some said 20 people while BBC said 2 people died. The bottom line is no life is worth sacrificing over mundane things as political power.

b03liberty: the suicidal was even a christian < chukwudi> so what the noise all about

Olodo, did the suicide bomber discuss with you before the attack? Mumu guy

b03liberty: the suicidal was even a christian < chukwudi> so what the noise all about

crapy nonsense...no christian is a suicide bomber

Its been a really long time I recited my favourite quote...I will like to do so now.......ISLAM IS A RELIGION OF PISS AND SHITS

b03liberty: the suicidal was even a christian < chukwudi> so what the noise all about

Tell that to the ants!...must it be igbo name?

toke8: people came out yest to protest about a private film made thousands of kilometres away while they have never come out to protest/openly criticize Boko Haram which operates right under their noses. Hypocrisy!!
Christians will continue to attend mass and go to church everyday because, nothing, even persecution can separate us from the love of Christ.

Haaaaaaaw!!!

We thought your God was going to fight for himself

Are these people never tired of seeing blood? 'kill and destroy' is all they ever think about in their miserable lifes. For us xtains, persecution is nothing new and it can't stop us from serving our God. I'll advise d brains behide this crime to stop wasting their energy, time and money on trying to destroy xtains, cos their forefathers tried too but didn't succeed.

Accepting an imported Alien Religion has killed our peoples minds!. The Black/African does not know the consequences of accepting AN ALIEN RELIGION. If a Black/African accepts Judaism and Christianity as his religion, he has accepted the Caucasian as his visible God. The same with Islam, if a Black/African person accepts Al Islam and its many branches as there religion, then it accepts the Desert Arab as his God. That person cannot have power over, or be equal to the Caucasian, or Arab because here, the Caucasian and the Arab has been accepted as the superior power, and this is why trying to obtain liberty and equality in Caucasian or Arab religion or any alien religion is a CRUEL HOAX! If you look at all of the so called Holy Books that our people are into, they all portray the image of someone other than self. There is not a face of Black/African people of any of these imported religions.

Useless people.Protest againts this now.

[quote author=page9]@jettage

You are obviously "an expert in Islamic knowledge".

There is no way we can have a united Nigeria if we all go about copying and pasting lies about each other's religion. The issue of boko Haram deserves the attention of all well-meaning Nigerians regardless of which faith you practise. But when people leave the substance and go after the shadow, then it leaves a sour taste in the mouth.

All your quotations are blatant lies and I challenge you to a face to face debate on this. Lifting a verse out of contents or distorting the truth is a trademark of some Christians using the internet to mislead the people. There are many of such sites that we know. Using the excuse of boko haram to discredit other's faith is not the ideal way to go about it.

As Muslims, we pray to see the end of evil organizations such as Boko haram very soon and all those behind them shall be put to shame. We also pray that may those souls (Muslims or Christians ) that have departed as a result of the evil acts of Boko Haram rest in peace.