ghazzal: see hoe you live in a foly of blasphemy md self deceit.
there is only one God we all at least think we worship but in different ways. the question is how does God wants to be worshiped. Do some even know this God? read and study.
some of your lies is 72wives in heaven but u can never tell your source-cheap blasphemy.
i advise u read and make good/logical conclusion. time they say is no friend pf man.

when a man is se.tenced in d court of law, it makes the court a terorist zone. smh

Sweetnecta: @italo: i wanted to respond to the "near extinction" of reyginus and then i saw your entry.
let me share a reality of how an earlier muslim man shut up a christian missionary of his day:

the christian asked the muslim if Muhammad [sa] was the last messenger [sa], why didnt Allah help and safeguard his grandson Hussaine [ra] instead of allowing him to be killed?

Fair and smart question until the muslim gave a knock out punch of an answer:

Muhammad [sa] was bold enough and probably furious with Yahweh, the muslim said.
Yahweh burst into tears and apology.

He said that even His own begotten son He couldn't protect as he was killed by hanging.


Swallow that for a moment.

We know who is the liar and we know who is not alive and we know who is weak and we know who does not care enough to stand for God.

carefulme:

FALLACY OF HASTY GENERALIZATION..........DO YOU MEAN ALL MUSLIMS OR SOME MUSLIMS.......
........AND CERTAINLY IF ALL MUSLIMS WERE TRULY OBLIGED TO DEFEND THEIR RELIGION BY MURDER, NONE OF US WOULD BE LEFT BEHIND......

Reyginus: lol. You dont know that for every man born, his procreation is at a geometric progression.
If islam is a billion plus, it does not reflect to an influx of 'new believing souls' because its adherents procreates geometrically as well.
How then is your population more important than your growth rate?

italo:

Firstly, I don't believe that that conversation actually ever took place, even though you term it "reality." (You are free to provide proof of its authenticity if you have it.)

italo:

That is part of what Jesus came to show us. They seized him without resistance, tortured and killed him, yet he rose and lives forever.

Sweetnecta: @Omo Alata: This is ironic. The irony of it all is that the Christian Bibles say that God of the Christians in Trinity was killed by hanging. Omo Alata, was that "arm" too weak or cant save Himself? Jesus prepared for war in the same way they say Nidal of US army prepared for his last war; he sold all his belongings [Jesus told his disciples to sell all their belongings [your cloaks are the last of your belongings to dispose off, unless you wanna go about nu.de in a religious community. Thats a no no unless you wanna die].

It is very clear you dont understand the basics of christianity, Jesus came to earth to die, i wouldnt know why jesus said his disciples should buy a sword but am sure its not to kill because he condemned one of his disciples who struck the ear of a man who came to attack them at night, Jesus condemned the disciple saying 'those who kill by the sword shall die by the sword' but interestingly, even though the man came to against Jesus and his disciples at night, Jesus still healed his ear back for him, he loved his enemy and thats the same thing he taught us to do

@plappville: unless you admit that corinthians writer is the another comforter tell the disciples what they knew not during the time of Jesus, the above verse does not count. it is absolutely irrelevant.

The bible is the inspired word of God and we as christians are to follow it, God spoke through his apostles, the corinthian writer is an apostle, Jesus gave him the commission to be the apostle of the gentiles therfore it is relevantl.


they did not survive for all men to see them. you as a woman did not see a single one of them. Heck. Jesus said "you vipers". You need more to know that some men were not loved but hated by Jesus "Fools" Jesus was reported to have said, thought he had earlier condemned people who say "fools" to hell.

when Jesus said u shuld nt call anyone afool, contextually he was speaking of those who were unrighteously angry, note that he mentioned anger in that verse



and the God that didn't have anyone to fight for Him was hung on a tree [Paul said he was a cursed soul]. Allah says dialogue with with them in wisdom and in a way that is noble/decent. If I show you that from the Quran, will you accept Islam, while i show you from the Bible that The God that does not hate evildoers by their deeds does not exist and the one who does not have strong fighters to follow him will get crushed by hanging?

The OP:

Y do you christians always sufferfrom amnesia?
Need I remind you people fought for Yahwah and that didnt make any less powerfull.

F00028:


maybe if we were considering whether Islam was the fastest growing religion you could bring that up.

reality is you presently have one billion people adhering to a faith, born or converted. by no stretch of the imagination are they 'closer to extinction'...not in our life time anyway.

haibe:

[color=#990000]Jesus didnt need anyone to fight for him ....

Reyginus: You miss the point.
As other religions contract and increase as well, islam increases but shrinks.
In the end, it is lost in the crowd.

F00028:

that's not true! he told his disciples to acquire weapons. sell their garments even. he only abandoned the idea of armed resistance when he finally came face to face with his enemies and realised he was outnumbered!
-mark. 14:43

really, dont you guys ever read the bible yourselves?

F00028:

okay. I'll be open minded. what do you base all this on?

Judek2:

Many differences there are, deleting the link between Muslim god and Christian God...

Yahweh has a son, while Allah doesn't. (expurgated trails reveals he has three daughters anyway).

Yahweh's book is the Bible while Allah's book is the Koran.

Yahweh's house is the Church, while Allah's house is the mosque.

Following Yahweh, there is nothing like marriage or canal knowledge in Paradise, while with Allah, you're entitled to not less than 72 wives in Al Janah.

Yahweh does not commission killing, no matter what provocation, while Allah does, provided its when necessary (archaistic), or on self defense (modernized)..

Anything you can think makes a huge difference. So, the world are mainly in belief of Two different gods and doctrines..

Reyginus: Nothing of the sword will survive.

Reyginus:
Are you the only one who dont know the world is experiencing a population explosion.
So, if muslims are only 1.4billion out of 7billion(common sense should tell you other religions are increasing as well, and by a higher rate

Reyginus:
Are you the only one who dont know the world is experiencing a population explosion.
So, if muslims are only 1.4billion out of 7billion(common sense should tell you other religions are increasing as well Islam is increasing and not going to extinction, and by a higher rate.......since there is a population explosion generally as aforementioned

Reyginus: how does that relate to an improvement in the faith.
Dude, what determines the increase in a trend, is the rate of growth.

F00028:
the actual conversation did take place. it was between a reverend and an imam in colonial india. and yes, its documented. the book is called izharul-haq



whithout resistance?! is that what they told you?!?

you should start reading the bible for yourself. it would dispel that ridiculous notion.

italo:

I have tried to read the book - to no avail. However, you still haven't given me proof that that conversation actually took place. If the Imam said in his book that a certain conversation took place, it doesn't necessarily mean that it did. Even though it did, it doesn't prove anything. Like I said earlier, Christians are not taught to believe that The Almighty God will save all his people from earthly death all the time, so the purported conversation is of no use in proving anything, except that the 'Reverend'-if he existed, used the wrong approach in his discussion with the 'Imam.'

I have read the Bible and I'm left with the same conclusion. He was seized without resistance.

F00028:
speak plainly, man.

carefulme:

HO!!!!
You were not aware of this before u said Islam was going to EXTINCTION!!!!!!!
........keep PROVING me RIGHT.....
........and remember, we were not discussing if other religions were growing or not.......we were discussing if Islam was going to extinction or not.........so your above post should rather be re-framed as



..........



Here goes the plea again!!!!!

MAN A:"even if Islam is not going to extinction, how does that relate to an improvement in the faith.

......It's the faith that now bothers MAN A

There are only statistics for the number of adherents of Islam......... not the numbers of improvement in their faith .....
.......And on this chance the non Muslims pounce.........
They come up with their own "improvement in faith" statistics...all conjured up in their mind.....
........And of course we know the result of such statistics
........"Even though there are significant number of Muslims around, MOST of them don't have faith "
...........Just as expected.........
........The closest statistics to your "improvement of faith trend" is one on "countries by religiosity"

Again, if what determines the increase in a trend is the Growth rate.....i ask .....does Islam have a NEGATIVE growth rate?.......(i.e going to extinction)

F00028: @Reyginus
how does this fit into your hypothesis:

“Islam is the world’s fastest-growing religion. In 1990, 935 million people were Muslims and this figure had escalated to around 1.2 billion by 2000, meaning that around one in five people follow Islam. Although the religion began in Arabia, by 2002 80% of all believers in Islam lived outside the Arab world. In the period 1990-2000, approximately 12.5 million more people converted to Islam than to Christianity”
(Guinness World Records 2003, pg 102)



“The second-largest religion in the world after Christianity, Islam is also the fastest-growing religion. In the United States, for example, nearly 80 percent of the more than 1,200 mosques have been built in the past 12 years.

Some scholars see an emerging Muslim renaissance as Islam takes root in many traditionally Christian communities... “

http://www.cnn.com/WORLD/9704/14/egypt.islam/



According to Reader’s digest Almanic year book Islam grew by 235% in 50 years between 1934-1984

Sweetnecta: @Omo Alata: This is ironic. The irony of it all is that the Christian Bibles say that God of the Christians in Trinity was killed by hanging. Omo Alata, was that "arm" too weak or cant save Himself? Jesus prepared for war in the same way they say Nidal of US army prepared for his last war; he sold all his belongings [Jesus told his disciples to sell all their belongings [your cloaks are the last of your belongings to dispose off, unless you wanna go about nu.de in a religious community. Thats a no no unless you wanna die].


@plappville: unless you admit that corinthians writer is the another comforter tell the disciples what they knew not during the time of Jesus, the above verse does not count. it is absolutely irrelevant.


they did not survive for all men to see them. you as a woman did not see a single one of them. Heck. Jesus said "you vipers". You need more to know that some men were not loved but hated by Jesus "Fools" Jesus was reported to have said, thought he had earlier condemned people who say "fools" to hell.


and the God that didn't have anyone to fight for Him was hung on a tree [Paul said he was a cursed soul]. Allah says dialogue with with them in wisdom and in a way that is noble/decent. If I show you that from the Quran, will you accept Islam, while i show you from the Bible that The God that does not hate evildoers by their deeds does not exist and the one who does not have strong fighters to follow him will get crushed by hanging?

Sweetnecta: @italo: i wanted to respond to the "near extinction" of reyginus and then i saw your entry.
let me share a reality of how an earlier muslim man shut up a christian missionary of his day:

the christian asked the muslim if Muhammad [sa] was the last messenger [sa], why didnt Allah help and safeguard his grandson Hussaine [ra] instead of allowing him to be killed?

Fair and smart question until the muslim gave a knock out punch of an answer:

Muhammad [sa] was bold enough and probably furious with Yahweh, the muslim said.
Yahweh burst into tears and apology.

He said that even His own begotten son He couldn't protect as he was killed by hanging.


Swallow that for a moment.

We know who is the liar and we know who is not alive and we know who is weak and we know who does not care enough to stand for God.

bukatyne: u are all lucky that you re blasphemying against God the Father and God the Son. u know we ll say God can fight for Himself. However, don't blaspheme against God the Spirit because u wouldn't be forgiven.

bukatyne: u are all lucky that you re blasphemying against God the Father and God the Son. u know we ll say God can fight for Himself. However, don't blaspheme against God the Spirit because u wouldn't be forgiven.