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Unmasking The Anti-Christ Pastors And Bishops Of The Present Day Church by Goshen360(m): 5:15am On Nov 17, 2012
The Lord warns us of the rising of Antichrist church leaders saying,

"For many shall come in my name, saying, I am Christ; and shall deceive many" - Matthew 24:5.

This scripture does not mean that people will literally claim that they are Jesus Christ of Nazareth. The word Christ means “the anointed one” so the word of God is saying that many carnal men and women will claim that they are anointed men and women of God. The above scripture has been fulfilled, for there are many unregenerated self-acclaimed anointed men and women of God who are building their own kingdoms and empires using the name of Christ.

The Antichrist leaders in the structural church include the superstar pastors and bishops who are acting as mediators between their congregation and God; apart from them in their church, no other believer is entitled to hear from God. They have no interest in discipling their church members and releasing them into their God appointed assignments; instead, they cage their members to achieve their own selfish visions; their motive behind having a large congregation is to calculate the collection of tithe and offerings! They gather people around themselves only to raise money with the focal point of their messages always directed towards money or material matters instead of Jesus Christ.

They are from the world and therefore speak from the viewpoint of the world, and the world listens to them - 1 John 4:5.

These ministers of Satan use all sorts of gimmicks to steal from their victims! False ministers operate local churches as a family business; for instance, in their congregations, the husband will act as the senior pastor and their wives will act as second in command, followed by their children. It is not necessary that when a pastor dies the wife or the children take over. God doesn't require an assembly of believers to be operated like a monarch. False Shepherds feed themselves not the Sheep, Jesus said that a good shepherd laid down his life for the sheep (John 10:11).

Today, the sheep are laying their lives down for the Antichrist shepherds. The leaders are the first to drive fine cars, live in expensive houses and mansions, and own private jets due to the monetary contributions of the saints! The saints return home to endure sleepless nights, thinking of where their next meal will come from or how their bills are going to be paid. Whatever monetary collections in the church should benefit every member of the Church, especially the poor, not just the pastor.

In the early church, all the believers were one in heart and mind. No one claimed that any of their possessions was their own, but they shared everything they had. With great power the apostles continued to testify to the resurrection of the Lord Jesus. And God's grace was so powerfully at work in them all that there were no needy persons among them. For from time to time those who owned land or houses sold them, brought the money from the sales and put it at the apostles' feet, and it was distributed to anyone who had need (Acts 4:32-35).

Leaders should be an example, just like Jesus Christ, "though he was rich, yet for our sake he became poor, so that we through his poverty might become rich" (2 Corinthians 8:9). Genuine Christian leaders should do likewise, because that is the principle of the Kingdom of God. If the present day church leaders (especially the Pentecostal circles) are true Christians who believe that this world will end soon (2 Peter 3:8-12), they would discontinue accumulating material wealth for themselves. What sense does it make to hoard wealth upon the earth that will soon be destroyed? Jesus says,

“Do not store up for yourselves treasures on earth, where moths and vermin destroy, and where thieves break in and steal. But store up for yourselves treasures in heaven, where moths and vermin do not destroy, and where thieves do not break in and steal. For where your treasure is, there your heart will be also" - Matthew 6:19-21.

The false leaders exalt themselves which is contrary to the principle of Christ and the apostles; for instance, Jesus Christ was a servant among the 12 apostles, and the apostles were not special among the rest of the believers; they were all brothers in Christ and there were no presidents or founders among them. Apostle Peter was not called “Papa” or “General overseer”; he was just a simple brother in the local assembly. Jesus said,

"But you are not to be called 'Rabbi,' for you have only one Master and you are all brothers. And do not call anyone on earth 'father,' for you have one Father, and he is in heaven. Nor are you to be called 'teacher,' for you have one Teacher, the Christ. The greatest among you will be your servant. For whoever exalts himself will be humbled, and whoever humbles himself will be exalted" - Matthew 23:8-12

Any Christian leader who allows his congregation to exalt him is an Antichrist. Jesus said, "if I be lifted up from the earth, will draw all men unto me" (John 12:32). This simply means that if a minister of the gospel is presenting Jesus Christ to his congregation, they should look upon Jesus Christ and glorify Christ, not the pastor. The reasons many Christians talk more of their pastors and fight hard to defend their pastor at any length instead of Christ is that the pastor presents himself to the congregation, not Christ.

In some churches if the “senior pastor” isn't preaching during the “Sunday service”, many of the members won't attend which shows that the foundation of that local assembly is laid upon the pastor not on Jesus Christ. If the foundation of a church is built on Christ, each member will minister and preach Christ and manifest the fruits of the Holy Spirit.

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Re: Unmasking The Anti-Christ Pastors And Bishops Of The Present Day Church by abbeycial: 6:31am On Nov 17, 2012
word!
Re: Unmasking The Anti-Christ Pastors And Bishops Of The Present Day Church by Goshen360(m): 6:50am On Nov 17, 2012
^^^
The religious vultures had invaded the church of Christ as prophesied by our Lord and Saviour. Vultures are birds of prey but unlike other birds in the giant bird family, especially the eagle, they prey on carcass (dead bodies). They are at their best in sordid environments where decent animals detest. They cannot stand healthy competitions in healthy environments. They are lazy and do not have the liver to fight with their prey, so, they wait until the prey is dead cold and rotten before they begin to feed on it. Sometimes, they rely on stronger animals to kill the prey and
leave it behind for them to prey upon. In the same way and manner, a spiritually dead church or Christian is being fed on by the religious vultures who are wolves in sheep's clothing.
Re: Unmasking The Anti-Christ Pastors And Bishops Of The Present Day Church by Nobody: 7:25am On Nov 17, 2012
Op, you had better get a life and stop peddling lies. Now pastors are now The Anti Christ. What wont i see on NL, from being pastor Entrpenuers they are now AntiChrist.

Rubbish post
Re: Unmasking The Anti-Christ Pastors And Bishops Of The Present Day Church by ijawkid(m): 7:30am On Nov 17, 2012
teeo: Op, you had better get a life and stop peddling lies. Now pastors are now The Anti Christ. What wont i see on NL, from being pastor Entrpenuers they are now AntiChrist.

Rubbish post

Hmmm....

TEEEO @ least just grab some part of his write up that should give you the room to ponder on some truths..........

How you see am??.....
Re: Unmasking The Anti-Christ Pastors And Bishops Of The Present Day Church by Nobody: 7:40am On Nov 17, 2012
Nice article Bro Goshen!
Re: Unmasking The Anti-Christ Pastors And Bishops Of The Present Day Church by Goshen360(m): 7:46am On Nov 17, 2012
teeo: Op, you had better get a life and stop peddling lies.

New Living Translation (©2007)
The Word gave life to everything that was created, and his life brought light to everyone.
- John 1:4

I already have a life. I'm not just living to exist but there is a life in me so I can be a light to the world and that is exactly what I'm doing here - bring those who sit in darkness to the light of God.

teeo: Now pastors are now The Anti Christ. What wont i see on NL, from being pastor Entrpenuers they are now AntiChrist.

Yes, any pastor that does contrary to the teachings and what Christ did as example is an "Anti"-Christ since you have a one way knowledge of the meaning of "Anti" Christ.

teeo:
Rubbish post


I guess you are one of those being exposed. Why does it bother you when we expose Anti-Christ practices in the church? Maybe you are one of those Anti-Christ practices in the body of Christ. Repent!!!

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Re: Unmasking The Anti-Christ Pastors And Bishops Of The Present Day Church by Goshen360(m): 7:49am On Nov 17, 2012
ijawkid:

Hmmm....

TEEEO @ least just grab some part of his write up that should give you the room to ponder on some truths..........

How you see am??.....


Bro, leave the guy make he dey run him mouth. You won't be surprise he only read the title of the thread and rush to comment. smh. Besides, how are you doing bro? Sure you are cool....stay blessed bro...more articles to come.
Re: Unmasking The Anti-Christ Pastors And Bishops Of The Present Day Church by Goshen360(m): 7:50am On Nov 17, 2012
seriallink: Nice article Bro Goshen!

Thank you bro. More articles to come.
Re: Unmasking The Anti-Christ Pastors And Bishops Of The Present Day Church by ijawkid(m): 7:52am On Nov 17, 2012
Goshen360:

Bro, leave the guy make he dey run him mouth. You won't be surprise he only read the title of the thread and rush to comment. smh. Besides, how are you doing bro? Sure you are cool....stay blessed bro...more articles to come.


I dey o.....I'm cool.....keep bringing those articles....they are all welcome......
Re: Unmasking The Anti-Christ Pastors And Bishops Of The Present Day Church by Goshen360(m): 7:57am On Nov 17, 2012
^^^
Sure bro, we will kick all these business men, Anti-Christ practices and religious vultures out of business. The revelation and revolution is here.

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Re: Unmasking The Anti-Christ Pastors And Bishops Of The Present Day Church by Joagbaje(m): 8:36am On Nov 17, 2012
Goshen360: The Lord warns us of the rising of Antichrist church leaders saying,

"For many shall come in my name, saying, I am Christ; and shall deceive many" - Matthew 24:5.

This scripture does not mean that people will literally claim that they are Jesus Christ of Nazareth. The word Christ means “the anointed one” so the word of God is saying that many carnal men and women will claim that they are anointed men and women of God.The above scripture has been fulfilled, for there are many unregenerated self-acclaimed anointed men and women of God who are building their own kingdoms and empires using the name of Christ.

You are wrong brother. The scripture frees to false Jesus'. Ministers of God are anointed. It's not a crime to be anointed .

2 Corinthians 1:21
Now he which stablisheth us with you in Christ, and hath anointed us, is God;



The Antichrist leaders in the structural church include the superstar pastors and bishops who are acting as mediators between their congregation and God; apart from them in their church, no other believer is entitled to hear from God. They have no interest in discipling their church members and releasing them into their God appointed assignments; instead, they cage their members to achieve their own selfish visions; their motive behind having a large congregation is to calculate the collection of tithe and offerings! They gather people around themselves only to raise money with the focal point of their messages always directed towards money or material matters instead of Jesus Christ.

Stop insulting the church of christ. Pastors are the one perfecting the saints. It's carnal men that sees ministry as money making venture. Pastoring is sacrifice. You're not seeing the fasting and prayer and intercession of a pastor for his congregation. All you see is money. Yet you sell this wrong signal of the church to the world as a christian brother. It's a sin. Just because of the wrong foundation in your understanding of opening scripture . It's shameful seeing Christians instead of preaching to sinner spend their time and resources to attack christ body.

These ministers of Satan use all sorts of gimmicks to steal from their victims! False ministers operate local churches as a family business; for instance, in their congregations, the husband will act as the senior pastor and their wives will act as second in command, followed by their children. It is not necessary that when a pastor dies the wife or the children take over. God doesn't require an assembly of believers to be operated like a monarch. False Shepherds feed themselves not the Sheep, Jesus said that a good shepherd laid down his life for the sheep (John 10:11).

I only pray God forgive you. If you have heard testimonies from these so called victims ,of how their lives have changed due to the ministry of the pastor. In breakthroughs,fruit of the womb, jobs ,business success etc. those testimonies people share on Sunday mornings, do you think they are staged ?

Today, the sheep are laying their lives down for the Antichrist shepherds. The leaders are the first to drive fine cars, live in expensive houses and mansions, and own private jets due to the monetary contributions of the saints! The saints return home to endure sleepless nights thinking of where their next meal will come from or how their bills are going to be paid,

Why do you always portray Gods people as poor. Did Jesus' die to make people poor? And why complain for poor brethren if there is any, you are against the message if prosperity after all.. That's the only hope they have . The teaching that will proposer them . It's part of the gospel package . You have to be consistent with your stand.

Whatever monetary collections in the church should benefit every member of the Church, especially the poor, not just the pastor. [quote]

That's unscriptural . Every man should work. There a church structure for the poor anyway.

[quote]In the early church, all the believers were one in heart and mind. No one claimed that any of their possessions was their own, but they shared everything they had. With great power the apostles continued to testify to the resurrection of the Lord Jesus. And God's grace was so powerfully at work in them all that there were no needy persons among them. For from time to time those who owned land or houses sold them, brought the money from the sales and put it at the apostles' feet, and it was distributed to anyone who had need (Acts 4:32-35).

That was due to persecution. They were being hunted. They ciunldnt walk freely on the dtreet nit to talk about going to work. That later changed ,the distribution stopped .every man must work.

2 Thessalonians 3:10-11
For even when we were with you, this we commanded you, that if any would not work, neither should he eat. 11 For we hear that there are some which walk among you disorderly, working not at all, but are busybodies.


Leaders should be an example, just like Jesus Christ, "though he was rich, yet for our sake he became poor, so that we through his poverty might become rich" (2 Corinthians 8:9). Genuine Christian leaders should do likewise, because that is the principle of the Kingdom of God. If the present day church leaders (especially the Pentecostal circles) are true Christians who believe that this world will end soon (2 Peter 3:8-12), they would discontinue accumulating material wealth for themselves. What sense does it make to hoard wealth upon the earth that will soon be destroyed? Jesus says,

Youre contrdicting the very scripture you just quoted . If jesus die to make us rich. Why shoukd you be angry at another mans wealth. Every christian has access to the i heritance. Its a matter of choice. It's their business , some may sacrifice and live in denial . And if any act in appropriately every man will account to God.

“Do not store up for yourselves treasures on earth, where moths and vermin destroy, and where thieves break in and steal. But store up for yourselves treasures in heaven, where moths and vermin do not destroy, and where thieves do not break in and steal. For where your treasure is, there your heart will be also" - Matthew 6:19-21.

That is sacrifice and sharing. Every christian should share ,that doesn't mean God is against wealth. Besides christian wealth is for the purpose of kingdom work.

The false leaders exalt themselves which is contrary to the principle of Christ and the apostles; for instance, Jesus Christ was a servant among the 12 apostles, and the apostles were not special among the rest of the believers; they were all brothers in Christ and there were no presidents or founders among them. Apostle Peter was not called “Papa” or “General overseer”; he was just a simple brother in the local assembly. Jesus said,

The bible command to honor those above us. Why don't you find out why people do what they do? You see from just one perspective and enter the error of judgementalism.

1 Thessalonians 5:12-13
And we beseech you, brethren, to know them which labour among you, and are over you in the Lord, and admonish you; 13 And to esteem them very highly in love for their work's sake. And be at peace among yourselves.


"But you are not to be called 'Rabbi,'

1 Corinthians 12:28
And God hath set some in the church, first apostles, secondarily prophets, thirdly teachers . . .


Hebrews 5:12
For when for the time ye ought to be teachers. . . .


for you have only one Master and you are all brothers. And do not call anyone on earth 'father,' for you have one Father, and he is in heaven. . .


1 Corinthians 4:15
After all, though you should have ten thousand teachers (guides to direct you) in Christ, yet you do not have many fathers. For I became your father in Christ Jesus through the glad tidings (the Gospel).

Any Christian leader who allows his congregation to exalt him is an Antichrist.

Says who?

1 Peter 5:5
Likewise, ye younger, submit yourselves unto the elder. .


Hebrews 13:17
Obey them that have the rule over you, and submit yourselves: for they watch for your souls, as they that must give account, that they may do it with joy, and not with grief: for that is unprofitable for you.


Jesus said, "if I be lifted up from the earth, will draw all men unto me" (John 12:32). [b]This simply means [/b]that if a minister of the gospel is presenting Jesus Christ to his congregation, they should look upon Jesus Christ and glorify Christ, not the pastor.

No, that's personal interpretation. That scripture simp,y has to do with crucifixion . If he be lifted up on the cross , salvation will be wrought.

I will encourage you to be very objective in your search for truth. Stop seeing from your direction only, you don't know the faith ,or understanding or the principles behind the people you critically insult . You might be the one sinning. Before you come to open to rubbish the church. Ask yourself. "SUPPOSING IM WRONG" to be on a safe side ,that's why the bible says "JUDGE NOT"
Instead of judging another man in error , let us use Internet to reach sinners rather.

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Re: Unmasking The Anti-Christ Pastors And Bishops Of The Present Day Church by goldfish80(m): 8:40am On Nov 17, 2012
I saw recently on a church satelite tv channel, a pastor who recently acquired a jet, giving to a community he visited 10 grinding machines απϑ one keke napep with all †ђξ fan fair the occassion attracted.then it struck me, who exactly do these preachers give their tyte? 10 grinding machines can't β℮ 10% cost of a jet, can it? undecided
Re: Unmasking The Anti-Christ Pastors And Bishops Of The Present Day Church by Joagbaje(m): 8:55am On Nov 17, 2012
Ten grinding machines, that's still something , firstly it's not the work of pastor to make provision for society, he should be commended. Besides , giving 10 michines in one community doesn't mean that's all he has ever done. Our constribution to society is personal. It's the christ in you being revealed . It's a christian thing. He did it as a christian. It's not part of the calling of a pastor. His calling is to preach the gospel and build the lives of people under his leadership. Any extra work should be commended ,not criticized. We should rather ask ourselves ,"what have I done for my world? Instead of mocking the effort of another man. We can't keep our monies and be dictating how others should spend theirs

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Re: Unmasking The Anti-Christ Pastors And Bishops Of The Present Day Church by Nobody: 9:03am On Nov 17, 2012
Goshen360: ^^^
Sure bro, we will kick all these business men, Anti-Christ practices and religious vultures out of business. The revelation and revolution is here.

For ur mind ba. Sinners are out there to be evangelized too. And you keep looking for ways to discredit the work of God. No man should be the Judge of the body of Christ.

Luke6:37 “Judge not, and you will not be judged; condemn
not, and you will not be condemned; forgive, and
you will be forgiven;

James 4:11-12 Do not speak evil against one another, brothers.
The one who speaks against a brother or judges
his brother, speaks evil against the law and judges
the law. But if you judge the law, you are not a doer
of the law but a judge. There is only one lawgiver
and judge, he who is able to save and to destroy. But who are you to judge your neighbor?
Re: Unmasking The Anti-Christ Pastors And Bishops Of The Present Day Church by goldfish80(m): 10:39am On Nov 17, 2012
Joagbaje: Ten grinding machines, that's still something , firstly it's not the work of pastor to make provision for society, he should be commended. Besides , giving 10 michines in one community doesn't mean that's all he has ever done. Our constribution to society is personal. It's the christ in you being revealed . It's a christian thing. He did it as a christian. It's not part of the calling of a pastor. His calling is to preach the gospel and build the lives of people under his leadership. Any extra work should be commended ,not criticized. We should rather ask ourselves ,"what have I done for my world? Instead of mocking the effort of another man. We can't keep our monies and be dictating how others should spend theirs
Yes,peace β℮ unto him for †ђose grinding machines, but on a second thought,50,000 worth of gift (frm a man who can afford †ђξ a jet) to an entire community nt to an individual should hardly count as anything. I remember a time Bola Tinubu use to give out N1000 eye glasses to individuals απϑ it was celebrated ιϞ the press infact it ws Gani Fawehimi that fought that nonsence.I have no problem with Billionare pastors whatsoever, I jst think they should do more for their imidiate communities. I imagine if Jesus ws born into a wealthy family, he would have given out his inheritance to †ђξ needy απϑ lived a normal life. Give it a thought
Re: Unmasking The Anti-Christ Pastors And Bishops Of The Present Day Church by PastorKun(m): 1:10pm On Nov 17, 2012
Trust Joagbaje to defend his fellow anti christ pastors and partners in crime.
Re: Unmasking The Anti-Christ Pastors And Bishops Of The Present Day Church by Nobody: 3:50pm On Nov 17, 2012
teeo:

For ur mind ba. Sinners are out there to be evangelized too. And you keep looking for ways to discredit the work of God. No man should be the Judge of the body of Christ.

Luke6:37 “Judge not, and you will not be judged; condemn
not, and you will not be condemned; forgive, and
you will be forgiven;

James 4:11-12 Do not speak evil against one another, brothers.
The one who speaks against a brother or judges
his brother, speaks evil against the law and judges
the law. But if you judge the law, you are not a doer
of the law but a judge. There is only one lawgiver
and judge, he who is able to save and to destroy. But who are you to judge your neighbor?

Wrong Bros!

I refuse to agree with you @ the bolded! We have the right to correct any Christian who is going astray and also misleading others.

Scripture says:


1 Corinthians 5:12

New Living Translation (©2007)

It isn't my responsibility to judge outsiders, but it certainly is your responsibility to judge those inside the church who are sinning.
Re: Unmasking The Anti-Christ Pastors And Bishops Of The Present Day Church by plappville(f): 4:34pm On Nov 17, 2012
Nice article, I can see much quality truth in your write up.
Its so true that the church today has adopted a different system from that of that Apostles.
The church is polluted, but many cannot see it. But the scriptures gives a clear view of this pollution.

More of this are need, keep it coming please.
Re: Unmasking The Anti-Christ Pastors And Bishops Of The Present Day Church by plappville(f): 4:39pm On Nov 17, 2012
teeo:

For ur mind ba. Sinners are out there to be evangelized too. And you keep looking for ways to discredit the work of God. No man should be the Judge of the body of Christ.

Luke6:37 “Judge not, and you will not be judged; condemn
not, and you will not be condemned; forgive, and
you will be forgiven;

James 4:11-12 Do not speak evil against one another, brothers.
The one who speaks against a brother or judges
his brother, speaks evil against the law and judges
the law. But if you judge the law, you are not a doer
of the law but a judge. There is only one lawgiver
and judge, he who is able to save and to destroy. But who are you to judge your neighbor?
He did not judge, Didn't those scriptures He presented made sense and correspond to his article?

1 Corinthians 5:13 God will judge those outside. "Expel the wicked man from among you."
What does the Among you mean to you?
Re: Unmasking The Anti-Christ Pastors And Bishops Of The Present Day Church by plappville(f): 4:41pm On Nov 17, 2012
seriallink:

Wrong Bros!

I refuse to agree with you @ the bolded! We have the right to correct any Christian who is going astray and also misleading others.

Scripture says:


1 Corinthians 5:12

New Living Translation (©2007)

It isn't my responsibility to judge outsiders, but it certainly is your responsibility to judge those inside the church who are sinning.

Nice one, i noted same verse to him/her.

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Re: Unmasking The Anti-Christ Pastors And Bishops Of The Present Day Church by plappville(f): 5:02pm On Nov 17, 2012
Joagbaje: Stop insulting the church of christ. Pastors are the one perfecting the saints. It's carnal men that sees ministry as money making venture. Pastoring is sacrifice. You're not seeing the fasting and prayer and intercession of a pastor for his congregation. All you see is money. Yet you sell this wrong signal of the church to the world as a christian brother. It's a sin. Just because of the wrong foundation in your understanding of opening scripture . It's shameful seeing Christians instead of preaching to sinner spend their time and resources to attack christ body.

Bros i greet ooo, i dont see this as attack shall ooo, The OP, speaks in pains, reading him, you will know He is not doing this to tarnish Christ.
Should we now pretend and swallow the evil manipulations we see in the church today?

How many of Today's Pastors truelly possess the quality of revelation 12:11?
A true christian should be able to prove that his/her life worth nothing when it comes to defending Christ word?
We see MOG today, when they go out, they take along some minders. This is because the confident of Gods spiritual protection is no longer felt.

A true brethren of Jesus ought not to fall in love with excess of material/wealth of this world, King David told us All these are vanity and vexation of the heart.(Ecclesiates 2)

If Christian believed what Christ told about the rich man and the Kingdom of God, then
they will know that accumulating the offers of this world cannot work together with the kingdom of God.
(Matthew 19:23-24, Mark 10:24-25,Luke 18:24-25).
Jesus knows riches tend to make one self sufficient and pridefully not needing God for much of anything.

We can see the prove already in many MOG today.
Poor Pastors for example do not go out with fear of kidnappers. But the rich ones do.
I believe the more rich you are the less likely you are to be Christ-like.
As the much love of it can diminish your connection with God.

Just my opinion anyway!

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Re: Unmasking The Anti-Christ Pastors And Bishops Of The Present Day Church by Goshen360(m): 6:30pm On Nov 17, 2012
Joagbaje:


You are wrong brother. The scripture frees to false Jesus'. Ministers of God are anointed. It's not a crime to be anointed .

2 Corinthians 1:21
Now he which stablisheth us with you in Christ, and hath anointed us, is God;

And there are no "false" or "self claimed" anointed ones? If Christ himself says "false" ministers will arise FROM among the true ones, what makes you think they are not here yet. The extent you go to defend all these "false" ministers will never cease to amaze everyone on this forum. Since you didn't get the truth in the article, let me re-emphasis it, the name Christ means the "anointed one" and scriptures says, false ChristS (plural) will arise and even perform miracles. This article does not focus on the true ministers but the false ones. If Christ calls the false ones "false" and I do, what the heck is your problem with that? Stop making it look as if we that speaks against the false ministers are the bad ones, it is very clear from scriptures!


Stop insulting the church of christ. Pastors are the one perfecting the saints. It's carnal men that sees ministry as money making venture. Pastoring is sacrifice. You're not seeing the fasting and prayer and intercession of a pastor for his congregation. All you see is money. Yet you sell this wrong signal of the church to the world as a christian brother. It's a sin. Just because of the wrong foundation in your understanding of opening scripture . It's shameful seeing Christians instead of preaching to sinner spend their time and resources to attack christ body.

"Stop insulting the church of christ..."
You will always see articles such as this as insulting the church of Christ. There is nothing insulting on the church of Christ here rather, exposing the false ministers by such Anti-Christ practices in the body of Christ.

"Pastors are the one perfecting the saints..."
How many pastors are those "perfecting the saints"? Huh, how many? If pastors are perfecting the saints, there won't be Churches in every 5-10 kilometers of every street and yet, iniquity abound, immorality is increasing on a daily basis, corruption eats and wine with same body of Christ and you tell us pastors are perfecting the saints. Off course there are few good pastors perfecting the saints but while the good ones are perfecting the saints, the "thiefing" ones are milking the flock and this article is meant for the false ones. "IF" you are one of false ones in training, let me assure you, your mission shall not stand in the body of Christ because God is raising His remnants for the truth of the word. Jesus did not soften the truth and the good ones in the body of Christ will NOT subvert/soften the truth of God's word.

"...It's carnal men that sees ministry as money making venture..."
Maybe you meant to say it is carnal men that use ministry as a money making opportunity. We do not have such practice in the Christian faith. Besides, "ministry" is not the same as "church". Today, men who are into so called "ministry" are converting church into ministry and makes it personal or one man show. Get your knowledge right bro. Whoever runs a church as a ministry is using people to make money. God's church has a standard to follow in the bible.

"...Pastoring is sacrifice..."
Yes, it is but the false ones that this article is meant to expose have turned it into "investment" and avenue to make money out of people. This is what we fight against. Wait a minute, did you say sacrifice? You mean they volunteered themselves or what? Sacrifice in what sense?

"...You're not seeing the fasting and prayer and intercession of a pastor for his congregation. All you see is money..."
What nonsense are you talking about? Christ is the ONLY one interceding for men between us and God. Hebrews 8:6; 1 Timothy 2:5. All I see is not money but all I see is ministers using all kinds of gimmicks to milk the flock of their hard earn money. Ministry and the Church needs money but money is not our God.

"...Yet you sell this wrong signal of the church to the world as a christian brother. It's a sin. Just because of the wrong foundation in your understanding of opening scripture . It's shameful seeing Christians instead of preaching to sinner spend their time and resources to attack christ body"
What wrong signal? You are the very one sending wrong signal because you always defending your partners in crime. As a Christian brother, one of my duties is to expose falsehood so the name of God is not blackmailed. It is not sin or crime exposing falsehood but it is crime and sin to defend falsehood especially when the name of God is being used to defraud God's people. Do I have to make a report to you when I preach to sinners. The most effective evangelism you preach to sinners is the one lived by your life in your daily living. When a sinner sees a so called Christian committing adultery and fornication, what does such Christian have to say to such sinners?


Why do you always portray Gods people as poor. Did Jesus' die to make people poor? And why complain for poor brethren if there is any, you are against the message if prosperity after all.. That's the only hope they have . The teaching that will proposer them . It's part of the gospel package . You have to be consistent with your stand.

I am NEVER against prosperity either in the spirit, soul and body or even financially. I believe Christ even though he was rich but for our sake became poor so that we, through his poverty might be rich. As you are out to defend your partners in crime does not make you understand the article. Get your facts right before you talk next time.

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Re: Unmasking The Anti-Christ Pastors And Bishops Of The Present Day Church by Nobody: 7:48pm On Nov 17, 2012
@Goshen
I thought you were about to list them by name. Are you scared of being judgemental?
Re: Unmasking The Anti-Christ Pastors And Bishops Of The Present Day Church by Goshen360(m): 8:06pm On Nov 17, 2012
babaearly: @Goshen
I thought you were about to list them by name. Are you scared of being judgemental?

I "personally" do not like to call name but If I do, it is not being judgmental, it is scriptural. Paul the Apostle named the false people of his days. We cannot name them all but as they display the characteristics in the article, they are unmasked irrespective of their names. We just watch out for their manifestations even when they pretend to be true ministers of God.
Re: Unmasking The Anti-Christ Pastors And Bishops Of The Present Day Church by solid3(m): 8:20pm On Nov 17, 2012
Nice writ up Goshen, now let me know ur take on this topic https://www.nairaland.com/1084165/did-jesus-apostles-ever-speak
Re: Unmasking The Anti-Christ Pastors And Bishops Of The Present Day Church by Joagbaje(m): 8:36pm On Nov 17, 2012
plappville:
He did not judge, Didn't those scriptures He presented made sense and correspond to his article?

They don't , compare it with my first post

1 Corinthians 5:13 God will judge those outside. "Expel the wicked man from among you."
What does the Among you mean to you?

That's for the church authority . There's discipline in Gods kingdom . But it's through the church leadership structure .
Re: Unmasking The Anti-Christ Pastors And Bishops Of The Present Day Church by Goshen360(m): 9:15pm On Nov 17, 2012
Joagbaje:

They don't , compare it with my first post

That's for the church authority . There's discipline in Gods kingdom . [size=20pt]But it's through the church leadership structure[/size] .

Stop spreading your false teaching! So you mean ONLY the structured church leadership that can expose falsehood or discipline those who err Where did you get all these you "institutionalized teachings You cannot do anything against the truth bro. Knowledge will increase in the latter times the bible says. The chains of deception is broken from the mind of God's people. There are false brethren (Christians) among us and it is our duty to expose them all.

New Living Translation (©2007)
Even that question came up only because of some so-called [size=20pt]Christians there--false ones[/size], really--who were secretly brought in. They sneaked in to spy on us [size=15pt]and take away the freedom we have in Christ Jesus.[/size] [size=15pt]They wanted to enslave us and force us to follow their Jewish regulations.[/size] - Galatians 2:4

New Living Translation (©2007)
I have traveled on many long journeys. I have faced danger from rivers and from robbers. I have faced danger from my own people, the Jews, as well as from the Gentiles. I have faced danger in the cities, in the deserts, and on the seas. And I have faced danger from men who claim to be believers but are not.

New International Version (©1984)
I have been constantly on the move. I have been in danger from rivers, in danger from bandits, in danger from my own countrymen, in danger from Gentiles; in danger in the city, in danger in the country, in danger at sea; and in danger from false brothers. - II Corinthians 11:26

Look at those two scriptures starring at you in the face right now and tell us that those scriptures did not call some "Christians" false. Joagbaje, you have being unmasked as one of the "resident charlatans" here on nairaland who is all out to defend the "super charlatans" and I have no apology for that because you defend falsehood in the name of God.

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Re: Unmasking The Anti-Christ Pastors And Bishops Of The Present Day Church by Joagbaje(m): 9:22pm On Nov 17, 2012
I only exposed the falacy of your post. You don't have to be insulting me . Read my post objectively and see your error.
Re: Unmasking The Anti-Christ Pastors And Bishops Of The Present Day Church by PastorKun(m): 9:30pm On Nov 17, 2012
Joagbaje:

They don't , compare it with my first post



That's for the church authority . There's discipline in Gods kingdom . But it's through the church leadership structure .

Bros so what happens if the church leadership is rotten and corrupt as in the case of cec? Should brethen just leave them to continue polluting the body of christ?

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Re: Unmasking The Anti-Christ Pastors And Bishops Of The Present Day Church by Goshen360(m): 9:34pm On Nov 17, 2012
Joagbaje:
I only exposed the falacy of your post. You don't have to be insulting me . Read my post objectively and see your error.

The scripture testifies against me and heaven does also - There is no error in my article. Tell me/us if the churches are not turned into business centers; tell us/me if men of God are not exalting themselves than Christ; tell us if they are not using people's money to acquire jets while members of the same body wallow in poverty; tell us/me if churches are not run by one man show; tell us/me if it is not fraud to collect tithes in the new testament; tell us if churches are not being converted to personal ministry by trick because not too many knows the difference btw operating church and operating ministry. Tell us/me what is error in my article other than you and your super charlatans being unmasked.

Joagbaje, the bible clearly says there are false christians among the true ones, why does it bother you so much if we unmask the false brethren if you are not one of the upcoming and resident charlatans It is not an insult but since you have taken it yo defend the falsehood that we expose, one will think you are one of them and this article probably hit you in the spirit.

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Re: Unmasking The Anti-Christ Pastors And Bishops Of The Present Day Church by Joagbaje(m): 9:42pm On Nov 17, 2012
You know when a poster start acting foolish , I stop responding . You font have to calle names to discuss truth. Why do you exalt your personal opinion above others. You may be right or wrong . You should give room for such . A discussion forum is not warfare. The bible my stand and if you have don't meaningful thing to say. Get to the scriptures which is out authority . When you guys get in the flesh like this , I simply walk away .

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