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Re: African viewpoint: 'Thank goodness for colonialism' by TerryCarr(m): 2:20am On Nov 30, 2012
shymexx:

Their histories are interwoven, and since civilisation existed in Ethiopia before Egypt - hence why Egypt was labelled the first daughter of Ethiopia...

PS: Ancient Ethiopia includes present day Sudan... And we can call it Cush or Nubia..
to a degree but Ethiopia/Eritrea most likely has more in common with the Arabians(before arabization) since that's where Semitic languages come from
Re: African viewpoint: 'Thank goodness for colonialism' by TerryCarr(m): 2:28am On Nov 30, 2012
shymexx:

Lmao... I guess the Kazan and Ashkenazi Jews from Eastern Europe are also the real Hebrews, no??

And the Europeans in North America are also the native Americans, no??

And the Europeans in Australia and New Zealand are also the Aborigenes, no?? grin grin
well here' what Saudis like like

Re: African viewpoint: 'Thank goodness for colonialism' by prettyboi1(m): 1:01pm On Dec 04, 2012
We Africans really need to know our history, accept our failures, pick up & start being non-dependent on these other races. They don't give a shyte about us & it's perfectly understandable cos we have chosen to be burdens to them rather than look inside ourselves & build ourselves up. I wonder how some people could be wishing / praying or even liking colonialism. That's enslaved mentality yoh. Here are the lyrics to a song "Africa must Wake up" done by Nas & Damian Marley (these 2 guys aren't even Africans, they are Americans) . You should listen to this song & learn a bit & also get inspired. The song is off their 2010 album "Distant Relatives". The entire album is basically a class-room of the history of Africa.



[b]Africa Must Wake Up" by Nas (feat. K'naan) (with Damian Marley)

[Intro: Jr. Gong] Morning to you man Morning to you love Hey, I say I say

[Chorus 2x] Africa must wakeup /
The sleeping sons of Jacob /
For what tomorrow may bring/
May a better day come /
Yesterday we were Kings Can you tell me young ones /
Who are we today?

[Nas: Verse1] The black oasis/
Ancient Africa the sacred/
Awaken the sleeping giant /

Science & Art is your creation /
I dreamt that we could visit Old Kemet/
Your history is too complex and rigid For some western critics/
They want the whole subject diminished /
But Africa's the origin of all the world's religions /
We built bridges that carried us over
the battle front of Sudanic soldiers/ The task put before us/

[Chorus 2x]

[Nas: Verse2] Who are we today?/ The slums,diseases , AIDS We need all that to fade /
We cannot be afraid of who are we today? /
We are the morning after /
The make shift youth, The slave ship captured/
Our Diaspora is the final chapter/ The ancetral lineage built pyramids/ America's first immigrant, /
The King's sons and daughters from Nile waters/
The first architects ,the first philosophers, astronomers The first prophets and doctors was us. /

[Bridge: Jr.Gong] Now can we all pray/
Each in his own way/
Teaching and Learning And we can work it out/
We'll have a warm bed, We'll have some warm bread and shelter from the storm dread and we can work it out /
Mother Nature feeds all/
In famine and drought Tell those selfish in ways Not to share us out/
What's a tree without root?/
Lion without tooth? /
A lie without truth?/
you hear me out

[Chorus] Africa must wakeup/
The sleeping sons of Jacob/
For what tomorrow may bring/
May a better day come/
Yesterday we were Kings Can you tell me young ones Who are we today?/
Ye lord /
Africa must wakeup/
The sleeping sons of Jacob/
For what tomorrow may bring /
May some more love come/
Yesterday we were Kings/
I'll tell you young blood This world is yours today

[K'naan] [Somali] Dadyahow daali waayey, nabada diideen Oo ninkii doortay dinta, waadinka dillee Oo dal markiiladhiso,waadinkadunshee Oo daacad ninkii damcay, waadinka dooxee Dadyahow daali waayey, nabada diideen Oo ninkii doortay dinta, waadinka dillee Oo dal markiiladhiso,waadinkadunshee Oo daacad ninkii damcay, waadinka dooxee
[translation] Oh ye people restless in the refusal of peace and when a man chooses religion, aren't you the one's to kill him? and when a country is built, aren't you the one's to tear it down? and when one attempts to tell the truth, aren't you the one's to cut him down? Who are we today? Morning to you Morning to you man Morning to you love[/b]
Re: African viewpoint: 'Thank goodness for colonialism' by igbo2011(m): 12:26am On Dec 05, 2012
TerryCarr:
well here' what Saudis like like


The ORIGINAL Phoenicians were black Africans. The original Palestinians were the Canaanites who were black Africans. It wasn't until the arab invasion where they kicked us out. You need to study migration history..

@prettyboi
Great song great album.
Re: African viewpoint: 'Thank goodness for colonialism' by TerryCarr(m): 1:15am On Dec 07, 2012
igbo2011:

The ORIGINAL Phoenicians were black Africans. The original Palestinians were the Canaanites who were black Africans. It wasn't until the arab invasion where they kicked us out. You need to study migration history..

@prettyboi
Great song great album.
[img]http://hurricanejill.files./2010/02/doublefacepalm2.jpg[/img]

[img]http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/8/8f/Semitic_languages.svg[/img]
the Arabs always been in the area
Re: African viewpoint: 'Thank goodness for colonialism' by Nobody: 1:22am On Dec 07, 2012
TerryCarr:

the Arabs always been in the area

Afroasiatic languages:

Afroasiatic (alternatively Afro-Asiatic), also known as Hamito-Semitic (Chamito-Semitic), is a large language family, including 300 or so living languages.
Afroasiatic languages are spoken predominantly in the Middle East, North Africa, the Horn of Africa, and parts of the Sahel. More than 300 million people speak an Afroasiatic language.

The most widely spoken Afroasiatic language is Arabic (including all its colloquial varieties), with 230 million native speakers, spoken mostly in the Middle East and North Africa. Berber languages are spoken in Morocco, Algeria, Libya and across the rest of North Africa and the Sahara Desert by about 25 to 35 million people. Other widely spoken Afroasiatic languages are Hausa, the dominant language of northern Nigeria and southern Niger, spoken as a first language by 25 million people and used as a lingua franca by another 20 million across the Sahel; Amharic and Oromo of Ethiopia, with 25 million speakers apiece; Somali, spoken by 15 million people in Greater Somalia; and Modern Hebrew, spoken by about seven million people worldwide. In addition to languages spoken today, Afroasiatic includes several important ancient languages, such as Ancient Egyptian, Akkadian and Biblical Hebrew.


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Afroasiatic_languages
Re: African viewpoint: 'Thank goodness for colonialism' by Nobody: 1:31am On Dec 07, 2012
Arabs arrived in North Africa in 8th century CE through Jihad and Islamic conquest of the region....

The original inhabitants were Moors(black people) and Cushites.... cool
Re: African viewpoint: 'Thank goodness for colonialism' by TerryCarr(m): 1:47am On Dec 07, 2012
i am talking about Arabia they look like they did back in ancient times
Re: African viewpoint: 'Thank goodness for colonialism' by TerryCarr(m): 1:48am On Dec 07, 2012
shymexx: Arabs arrived in North Africa in 8th century CE through Jihad and Islamic conquest of the region....

The original inhabitants were Moors(black people) and Cushites.... cool

than what happen to them?
Re: African viewpoint: 'Thank goodness for colonialism' by Nobody: 1:55am On Dec 07, 2012
TerryCarr: than what happen to them?

The same thing that happened to the native Americans and Aborigines in Oceania...

Muammar Ghaddafi also confirmed this, hence why he never recognised the berbers..
Re: African viewpoint: 'Thank goodness for colonialism' by Ndipe(m): 1:59am On Dec 07, 2012
Re: African viewpoint: 'Thank goodness for colonialism' by Ndipe(m): 2:12am On Dec 07, 2012
http://www.whenweruled.com/news.php?lng=en&pg=&id=5

Until the lions have their own historians, the tale of the hunt will always glorify the hunter.
Re: African viewpoint: 'Thank goodness for colonialism' by TerryCarr(m): 3:43am On Dec 07, 2012
shymexx:

The same thing that happened to the native Americans and Aborigines in Oceania...

Muammar Ghaddafi also confirmed this, hence why he never recognised the berbers..
arabization could be a reason for the Berber thing as in Algeria and morocco Berbers are not treated well. natives are still alive. not so much in the U.S.A but in most other places they are. and a lot of pacfic islanders live.
Morocco has been inhabited for at least the last 200,000 years. Berbers are the indigenous people and still make up the bulk of the population. Muslim Arabs conquered the territory that would become Morocco in the 7th and 11th centuries, at the time under the rule of various late Byzantine Roman leaders and indigenous Berber and Romano-Berber principalities, laying the foundation for the emergence of an Arab-Berber culture. The Arab occupation was brief and was ended by revolting Berbers who later founded numerous Muslim Berber kingdoms. A sizeable portion of the population is identified as Haratin and Gnawa (or Gnaoua), black or mixed race.
According to The Medieval Legends, In the 12th and 13th centuries there was an invasion of Arab nomads from The Fatimid Empire located in North Eastern Africa, known as Banu Hilal and Banu Sulaym tribes who were a bunch of Arabized Libyan Tribes founded in the Fayum Oasis in Egypt and Cyrenaica of Libya, swept the Eastern Maghreb, but recent studies make clear no significant genetic differences exist between Arabic speaking and non-Arabic speaking populations, highlighting that in common with most of the Arab World, Arabization was mainly via acculturation of non-Arab indigenous populations over time. The Moorish refugees from Spain settled in the coast-towns. According to the European Journal of Human Genetics, Moroccans from North-Western Africa were genetically closer to Iberians than to Black Sub-Saharan Africans and Middle Easterners.[
and even if they were black in the past does it matter? it is not going to help fix Africa
Re: African viewpoint: 'Thank goodness for colonialism' by igbo2011(m): 2:50pm On Dec 12, 2012
shymexx:

The same thing that happened to the native Americans and Aborigines in Oceania...

Muammar Ghaddafi also confirmed this, hence why he never recognised the berbers..

This man knows his history.
Re: African viewpoint: 'Thank goodness for colonialism' by TerryCarr(m): 10:31am On Dec 13, 2012
igbo2011:

This man knows his history.
native are still around go to Mexico or Bolivia
Re: African viewpoint: 'Thank goodness for colonialism' by Ndipe(m): 10:37pm On Dec 14, 2012
Thank God for the missionaries like Mary Slessor who helped put an end to the killing of twins and human sacrifices. For how long would this barbaric and inhumane act be tolerated under the guise of culture evolving if not for the intervention of these missionaries? There is good and bad in colonialism, lets put it that way.
Re: African viewpoint: 'Thank goodness for colonialism' by Nobody: 2:18am On Dec 15, 2012
Ndipe: Thank God for the missionaries like Mary Slessor who helped put an end to the killing of twins and human sacrifices. For how long would this barbaric and inhumane act be tolerated under the guise of culture evolving if not for the intervention of these missionaries? There is good and bad in colonialism, lets put it that way.

And how many tribes were doing such? Urhobo? Ijaw? Igbo? Efik?


While Mary Slessor was in Nigeria, her fellow colonial christians were packing black slaves.


Food for thought

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