Niflheim: @ijaw kid,the christian europeans murdered africans en masse and now they claim that we are ritualists!!!They are the biggest ritualists ever to set foot(or is it paw) in africa!!!

Those europeans who murdered africans aren't christians but pseudo christians..false christians....... ....

I have a friend from Portugal who is so passionate about Ifa religion. I too have started studying Ifa,in fact i now have it on my Ipad. Ifa is an ancient tradition practiced in Brazil,Haiti,Cuba and the United States of America. It is a religion that does acknowleg the feminin energy and gives a lot of power and admiration to women.......unlike the gay tradition of christianity.

The western religion borrowed a lot from Ifa. The Jesus of the bible is actually Obatala. These were black skinned entities. ifa acknowledged the earth is femini, its messangers and prophets were very black skinned. I do not need a white man to teach me my religion. Pope is gay,God of the bible is gay(a god without a goddess) Jesus of the bible is surrounded by men because he is gay.......why? Beacause the white society is naturally a gay society.

I got nothing agains gay poeople,i am just saying it is a white society thing. This is why it is weird to find a law in africa that support being gay . It is never in our DNA. The African culture requires a man to have a wife,we have godesses and gods. Otherwise,the population of humans will decrease.

ifeness: I have a friend from Portugal who is so passionate about Ifa religion. I too have started studying Ifa,in fact i now have it on my Ipad. Ifa is an ancient tradition practiced in Brazil,Haiti,Cuba and the United States of America. It is a religion that does acknowleg the feminin energy and gives a lot of power and admiration to women.......unlike the gay tradition of christianity.

The western religion borrowed a lot from Ifa. The Jesus of the bible is actually Obatala. These were black skinned entities. ifa acknowledged the earth is femini, its messangers and prophets were very black skinned. I do not need a white man to teach me my religion. Pope is gay,God of the bible is gay(a god without a goddess) Jesus of the bible is surrounded by men because he is gay.......why? Beacause the white society is naturally a gay society.

I got nothing agains gay poeople,i am just saying it is a white society thing. This is why it is weird to find a law in africa that support being gay . It is never in our DNA. The African culture requires a man to have a wife,whe have godesses and gods.

ABEG ABEG!!!


I said we should teach paganism as culture or literature! Stop preaching pagan conspiracy theories here. Ifa has nothing to do with christianity!

ijawkid:

Those europeans who murdered africans aren't christians but pseudo christians..false christians....... ....

*sigh i dont get why you are arguing so pointlessly. I am defending your people when i am Hausa and dont have anything to do with them. you should be siding with me and we should be arguing against the foreigners.

it is sad how utterly brainwashed and hollow abrahamism can make people. .

Logicboy03:



ABEG ABEG!!!


I said we should teach paganism as culture or literature! Stop preaching pagan conspiracy theories here. Ifa has nothing to do with christianity!

Culture and Literature is fine, but i am propagating it to achieve a Belief Status at par with other foreign beliefs. a Statushood of religion.

afterall isnt religion a set of beliefs beliefs in that which portrays the mentality of the people. .

ijawkid:

Those europeans who murdered africans aren't christians but pseudo christians..false christians....... ....

Nonsense. So who are the real christians? The false prophets of the Jehovahs witness with their failed prophecies?

PAGAN 9JA:


first of all the possibility of twins is very rare. second, if i do it, i will consult the oracle and my wife and i will decide. because this practice is mostly to do with custom rathar than SPirituality. it is not present among any other peoples.

Keep deluding yourself with paganism........which oracle??....those yeye oracles.....

PAGAN 9JA:

oh yes you are mentally deranged. .. . . and narrow. .

...only when I and my family worship snakes.....

PAGAN 9JA:


Culture and Literature is fine, but i am propagating it to achieve a Belief Status at par with other foreign beliefs. a Statushood of religion.

afterall isnt religion a set of beliefs beliefs in that which portrays the mentality of the people. .

I have no problem with that.

My problem was that the guy was linking christianity to Ifa. Claiming that Jesus is Obatala!

Logicboy03:


Nonsense. So who are the real christians? The false prophets of the Jehovahs witness with their failed prophecies?

they cant even make 1 straight prophecy.

ijawkid:

Keep deluding yourself with paganism........which oracle??....those yeye oracles.....





...only when I and my family worship snakes.....

Jesus told you to be as wise as snakes.

Logicboy03:


Nonsense. So who are the real christians? The false prophets of the Jehovahs witness with their failed prophecies?

Real Christians are those who don't engage in wars and politics.......

I repeat ::::::::Those europeans who killed africans aint christians...they are wayo/psuedo christians....

Logicboy03:


I have no problem with that.

My problem was that the guy was linking christianity to Ifa. Claiming that Jesus is Obatala!

oh yes that is true what you say. this stuff goes on a lot in the Culture section. the linkage of christianity with African religions.

after all how can a jewish hippie be a Force of Creation, when he himself was created very recently.

maybe he is the Creator force of trouble. lol
i think ifeness was talkin about the south american hybrid versions of Ifa ORisha , where they compare xtian prophets as Ifa Gods.

ijawkid:

Real Christians are those who don't engage in wars and politics.......

I repeat ::::::::Those europeans who killed africans aint christians...they are wayo/psuedo christians....

But real christians engage in slavery?

Real christians engage in tithes?

Real christians destroy private property (Jesus chasing people with whips and destroying their market stalls)

PAGAN 9JA:



oh yes that is true what you say. this stuff goes on a lot in the Culture section. the linkage of christianity with African religions.

after all how can a jewish hippie be a Force of Creation, when he himself was created very recently.

maybe he is the Creator force of trouble. lol
i think ifeness was talkin about the south american hybrid versions of Ifa ORisha , where they compare xtian prophets as Ifa Gods.

oh, I see

Logicboy03:

Jesus told you to be as wise as snakes.

And did Jesus say worship them??......

You are arguing here like you would wanna worship snakes.......

Leave the western countries and come back to 9ja to practice the old religion..........abi you wan practice am there??....hypocrite!!!!!!.......

ijawkid:

Real Christians are those who don't engage in wars and politics.......

I repeat ::::::::Those europeans who killed africans aint christians...they are wayo/psuedo christians....

i will only accept this if all African tribals revert to Paganism and then you start preaching through fair means.

85% of World xtians ancestors and them have been converted to christianity by force, lies, deceit, misionary bribery (providing money, shelter, jobs, etc., in return for conversion), etc.

ijawkid:


Leave the western countries and come back to 9ja to practice the old religion..........abi you wan practice am there??....hypocrite!!!!!!.......

he can practice it ova there. anywayz Logicboy is an atheist.

Logicboy03:


But real christians engage in slavery?

Real christians engage in tithes?

Real christians destroy private property (Jesus chasing people with whips and destroying their market stalls)

Which slavery??........

Which tithes??real christians don't pay tithes.....

What was private in that temple that Jesus
Chased away money changers and fraud stars from??..........infact it was the fraud stars who were playing 419 on the innocent persons who came into the temple that were doing the destruction.......

PAGAN 9JA:



i will only accept this if all African tribals revert to Paganism and then you start preaching through fair means.

85% of World xtians ancestors and them have been converted to christianity by force, lies, deceit, misionary bribery (providing money, shelter, jobs, etc., in return for conversion), etc.

And I would say this again..those who used force,bribery,deceit,lies etc to convert many to christianity aren't christians....they are fake christians......

ijawkid:

And I would say this again..those who used force,bribery,deceit,lies etc to convert many to christianity aren't christians....they are fake christians......

there is no such thing as a fake xtian . to be xtian is to do that. because xtianism has the power to capture the mindset and force people into such actions. it has happened throughout the ages and will continue so if not stopped.

(same with islam)

PAGAN 9JA:


he can practice it ova there. anywayz Logicboy is an atheist.

If he is an atheist then what business does he have here??......

He doesn't even believe in spirits and the supernatural........

Let him get his atheist butt out of here..........

He is clamoring for traditional paganism to be taught in schools,but would never want to practice them or believe in them.........

PAGAN 9JA:


there is no such thing as a fake xtian . to be xtian is to do that. because xtianism has the power to capture the mindset and force people into such actions. it has happened throughout the ages and will continue so if not stopped.

(same with islam)

A christian is a strict follower of Christ.......anyone who claims to be a christian but does not follow in the foot steps of Christ aint no christian,rather that person is a fake christian..............

Christ never used any of those means mentioned above to captivate his followers.....

ijawkid:

A christian is a strict follower of Christ.......anyone who claims to be a christian but does not follow in the foot steps of Christ aint no christian,rather that person is a fake christian..............

Christ never used any of those means mentioned above to captivate his followers.....

but what was his intention didnt his pawns do it for him so that they could lay the blame off him.

what was the point of this 12 disciples? was it a football team? or a religious mafia?

wasnt there already signs of gang war in this mafia? dare i need to remind you of judas?

christ indirectly caused all the pain and suffering today.

ijawkid:

And did Jesus say worship them??......

You are arguing here like you would wanna worship snakes.......

Leave the western countries and come back to 9ja to practice the old religion..........abi you wan practice am there??....hypocrite!!!!!!.......

Guy, na my fault you no get visa?


And who told you that I am not relocating to Nigeria?




I am just pointing out the hypocrisy in you hating snake worship. I myself dont worship anything (maybe Rihanna the goddess of pop or messi the god of football)

When credo mutwa(south african babalawo) accurately predicted that africans will suffer when obama becomes president,fake and foolish christian prophets claimed that africa will become a bed of roses during obama's tenure. U.S. messed up libya and now are using nato weapons to destroy Mali!!!.....................I BEG MAKE ALL AFRICANS ENTER SHRINE GO WORSHIP PYTHON JARE!!!

Niflheim: When credo mutwa(south african babalawo) accurately predicted that africans will suffer when obama becomes president,fake and foolish christian prophets claimed that africa will become a bed of roses during obama's tenure. U.S. messed up libya and now are using nato weapons to destroy Mali!!!.....................I BEG MAKE ALL AFRICANS ENTER SHRINE GO WORSHIP PYTHON JARE!!!

the correct trem is Sangoma / Sanusi

he is a classic example of a xtian convert to christianity. In 1937 he experienced a great shock and trauma when he was seized and sodomized by a gang of mineworkers outside a mine compound. he was just a kid at the age of 16. After this he was ill for a long time.
Where Christian doctors had failed, his grandfather, a man whom his father despised as a heathen and demon worshipper, helped him back to health. At this point Credo began to question many of the things about his people the missionaries would have them believe. "Were we Africans really a race of primitives who possessed no knowledge at all before the white man came to Africa?" he asked himself. His grandfather instilled in him the belief that his illness was a sacred sign that he was to become a shaman, a healer. He underwent initiation from one of his grandfather's daughters, young sangoma named Myrna

Logicboy03:


Guy, na my fault you no get visa?


And who told you that I am not relocating to Nigeria?




I am just pointing out the hypocrisy in you hating snake worship. I myself dont worship anything (maybe Rihanna the goddess of pop or messi the god of football)

Hahahahahahaha.............

When you relocate then we can discuss...........for now just keep quiet..........why did you run in the first place??......you better come back and let's worship EGBESU together in the niger delta style...........lol......

Niflheim: When credo mutwa(south african babalawo) accurately predicted that africans will suffer when obama becomes president,fake and foolish christian prophets claimed that africa will become a bed of roses during obama's tenure. U.S. messed up libya and now are using nato weapons to destroy Mali!!!.....................I BEG MAKE ALL AFRICANS ENTER SHRINE GO WORSHIP PYTHON JARE!!!

Those persons are not christians......they are oppresive politicians hiding behide a christian veneer....they are FAKE!!!!!!!!...........


Where are you by the way??.........

Paganism as a course is totally vast. That's gonna be one helluva syllabus considering the different cultures we have in Nigeria.
Wouldn't be a bad idea though, i wouldn't mind learning a thing or two. But most religious parents would never allow it since they see pagan practices as evil.

@ijawkid,my location has always been,and will always be..................THE DARK SIDE OF THE MOON!!!

Niflheim: @ijawkid,my location has always been,and will always be..................THE DARK SIDE OF THE MOON!!!

HMmmm.....its like you are with some demons there.....lol......

uj_sizzle: Paganism as a course is totally vast. That's gonna be one helluva syllabus considering the different cultures we have in Nigeria.
Wouldn't be a bad idea though, i wouldn't mind learning a thing or two. But most religious parents would never allow it since they see pagan practices as evil.

you dont need to learn about all tribes. learn about your own tribes Paganism first.