Ubenedictus: u neva disappoint me, ofcux u have started throwing scriptures around.

@Enigma will soon meet you with this your 1am early morning replies in NL. Lol.

Guy, where have you been all this while?

I have been wandering if you had issues with religion and had to stay away.

Any, long time no see. good to see ya.
Peace

FXKing2012: The apostles were called Christians for the first time on the day of the pentecost (Acts 2). This means that the first Christians were pentecostal Christians.
So quit spreading the false notion that the first Christians were catholics.

pls stop embarassing christians. There is nothing like pentecostal in christianity or anything for that matter, the church of Jesus is one. Jesus said "i will build my church....," Mat 16:18, he did not say, i will build my pentecostal church and orthodox church. Na una de spoil christianity.

Boomark:

The type of predestination i meant is the type a catholic ones told me. He said, "if any one commits suicide, God has destined him to die that day and by that means." Anytin that looks like this is certainly not in the bible.

so u just swooped in and said predestination isn't biblical. What an excuse!

Boomark:
Enigma was right. The true doctrine of the church of Christ is Solely base on the scripture. The man made doctrines of the catholic, winners, assemblies, etc, are what contradicts one another.
A catholic or a deeper life member will not tell you that their church doctrines contradicts itself.

again this is ur opinion, the apostles didnt base their doctrine on d scripture available to them only (old tes), but on d words of christ and d revelation of d spirit + d old t, that y d word of God is d source of doctrine and dat word is found in scripture and tradition. So your idea dat scripture alone is d sole source of doctrine is unbiblical.

Boomark:

the doctrine in the bible is more than enough for Christians to follow. That is the doctrine of the church Christ raised.

Where did you get other doctrine you follow?

scripture says "hold on to d tradition..." did u miss dat part in ur bible study? D bible neva claims to b d sole source of doctrine!

DanielNoble: IF YOU ARE DOING ANYTHING CHRIST AND HIS APOSTLES DID NOT TEACH THEN YOU ARE ON YOUR OWN!!!

dat is great, and d apostles tell us dat one of d way to knw wat they taught is by tradition! Are u following wat d apostles taught.

truthislight:
@Enigma will soon meet you with this your 1am early morning replies in NL. Lol.
Guy, where have you been all this while?
I have been wandering if you had issues with religion and had to stay away.
Any, long time no see. good to see ya.
Peace

i've gat no probs, its gud to hear frm u! Thank for ur concern! I took d holidays to b wit family, i decided to keep away from the net during that time. Hw u dey?

Lovethywilbedon: Fxking2012 you are very funny. You must be a good comadian. So you want to tell us that all the History Books in all the Libraries and Bookshops all over the world were written by Catholics, and non was written by the Protestants or Penticostals, whichever one you prefer. PLEASE we Catholics will be DELIGHTED if you can tell us 5 DIFFERENCES between PROTESTANTS and PENTICOSTALS. Honestly, I personaly, will be hearing that for the very first time.

what are you guys arguing? Christians no send you ppl o, there is nothing like pentecostal in christianity and RCC is a religion, christianity is not, so why una wan come kill unasef for anoda man mata?

Livingwaters: pls stop embarassing christians. There is nothing like pentecostal in christianity or anything for that matter, the church of Jesus is one. Jesus said "i will build my church....," Mat 16:18, he did not say, i will build my pentecostal church and orthodox church. Na una de spoil christianity.

so christ built one church and d apostles had 1 faith. And u are teling me dat all d contradictory faith is 1 church and 1 faith, hahaha dat is funny!

Ubenedictus: and dat was d catholic church! Wow!

the last time i checked the story of how the church started, Acts 2: the apostles were not worshping images o, so how can that be the beginhng of RCC?

Ubenedictus: so christ built one church and d apostles had 1 faith. And u are teling me dat all d contradictory faith is 1 church and 1 faith, hahaha dat is funny!

the church is one, one faith one saviour. It doesnt matter individual interpretations of the bible, there will be a coming of unity in faith as predicted in Eph 4:10-13. Again Peter talked about like-precious faith in 2Peter1:1. The church is one.

Ubenedictus: so christ built one church and d apostles had 1 faith. And u are teling me dat all d contradictory faith is 1 church and 1 faith, hahaha dat is funny!

@christemmbassey tnx, @ubenedictus how many churches did Christ built?

Ubenedictus: again this is ur opinion, the apostles didnt base their doctrine on d scripture available to them only (old tes), but on d words of christ and d revelation of d spirit + d old t, that y d word of God is d source of doctrine and dat word is found in scripture and tradition. So your idea dat scripture alone is d sole source of doctrine is unbiblical.

Don't you see why i said everything is in the scriptures/bible. Is there anyone of the emboldened points you cannot find in the bible? That is why bible should be your all and all with regard to Christian doctrine/tradition.

What do you understand by holding unto the tradition? Tradition: a belief or way of life of people. What tradition are Christians or followers of Christ supposed to hold unto? Is it the ones borrowed from heathen or the one Christ laid down for us. All truth were revealed to the apostles by the Holyspirit. If you borrow tradition outside the scripture as regards to serving God, you are on your own.

Ubenedictus: scripture says "hold on to d tradition..." did u miss dat part in ur bible study? D bible neva claims to b d sole source of doctrine!

whose tradition?
Tradition of men that they warned about or the tradition of the apostle or their way of doing things befor the epistle were written?

How can it be the tradition of men after they have gone when they did say wolves will enter into the congregation after they have gone?

Ubenedictus: dat is great, and d apostles tell us dat one of d way to knw wat they taught is by tradition! Are u following wat d apostles taught.

you keep saying tradition tradition, whose radition? Tradition of men?

Ubenedictus: i've gat no probs, its gud to hear frm u! Thank for ur concern! I took d holidays to b wit family, i decided to keep away from the net during that time. Hw u dey?

am ok.

You'r well come.

truthislight:

you keep saying tradition tradition, whose radition? Tradition of men?

this tradition stuff is the reason why most atheists are former frustrated RCC members, because, they so believed in this tradition thing that by the time they realize the 'baselessness' of it,they feel so empty and retrograte into atheism. This tradition thing make them to practice idol worship, invoved in fetish traditional initiations ocultism(knighthood) and child molestations.

christemmbassey: the last time i checked the story of how the church started, Acts 2: the apostles were not worshping images o, so how can that be the beginhng of RCC?

that mean u missed d part abt d apostles in the temple, u are aware dat there were many images in d temple right?

christemmbassey: the church is one, one faith one saviour. It doesnt matter individual interpretations of the bible, there will be a coming of unity in faith as predicted in Eph 4:10-13. Again Peter talked about like-precious faith in 2Peter1:1. The church is one.

hahaha humor me; so there is one faith and one spirit and many contradictory doctrines and yet u call dat d biblical church that christ built? damn, pipo are still call christ angel micheal and u are claiming d church has one faith. get serious

Livingwaters: @christemmbassey tnx, @ubenedictus how many churches did Christ built?

just one and it sure as hell didnt begin in the 16 century.

Boomark:

Don't you see why i said everything is in the scriptures/bible. Is there anyone of the emboldened points you cannot find in the bible? That is why bible should be your all and all with regard to Christian doctrine/tradition.

What do you understand by holding unto the tradition? Tradition: a belief or way of life of people. What tradition are Christians or followers of Christ supposed to hold unto? Is it the ones borrowed from heathen or the one Christ laid down for us. All truth were revealed to the apostles by the Holyspirit. If you borrow tradition outside the scripture as regards to serving God, you are on your own.

sorry man d bible never said it contained everything christ said and did nor does it claim to contain everything d apostles believed. d bible says instead "hold on to tradition..." are u following d bible?

truthislight:

whose tradition?
Tradition of men that they warned about or the tradition of the apostle or their way of doing things befor the epistle were written?

How can it be the tradition of men after they have gone when they did say wolves will enter into the congregation after they have gone?

d tradition d apostle told us to hold, did u forget d bible said so?

truthislight:

you keep saying tradition tradition, whose radition? Tradition of men?

d one d apostles told us to hold!

Livingwaters: this tradition stuff is the reason why most atheists are former frustrated RCC members, because, they so believed in this tradition thing that by the time they realize the 'baselessness' of it,they feel so empty and retrograte into atheism. This tradition thing make them to practice idol worship, invoved in fetish traditional initiations ocultism(knighthood) and child molestations.

sorry to burst ur bubble, d apostle didnt say "hold on to immorality" he said to tradition and there is no 'baselessness' or immorality there

Ubenedictus: d tradition d apostle told us to hold, did u forget d bible said so?

you have still not told us the tradition my friend.

Is it the ones the apostles had befor writing the bible or the ones by men after them?

truthislight:

whose tradition?
Tradition of men that they warned about or the tradition of the apostle or their way of doing things befor the epistle were written?

How can it be the tradition of men after they have gone when they did say wolves will enter into the congregation after they have gone?

so, please answer the question.

Your failure to do so means your mention of the word "tradition" is a smoke screen" used for other motives.

Ubenedictus: sorry to burst ur bubble, d apostle didnt say "hold on to immorality" he said to tradition and there is no 'baselessness' or immorality there

its like you are using this "tradition" as a screen to practice whatever you wish, is this true?

If not, can you please tell us the tradition in question you are talking about?

truthislight:
you have still not told us the tradition my friend.
Is it the ones the apostles had befor writing the bible or the ones by men after them?
so, please answer the question.
Your failure to do so means your mention of the word "tradition" is a smoke screen" used for other motives.

the very traditions d apostles had b4 writing epistles and gospel, d very one they continued to have while they were writting d said epistle and gospel and they never cease to have even after they had written their respective epistle and gospel.

truthislight:

its like you are using this "tradition" as a screen to practice whatever you wish, is this true?

If not, can you please tell us the tradition in question you are talking about?

one of them will be that the bread and wine of the memorial of christ's death is his body and blood.

truthislight:

its like you are using this "tradition" as a screen to practice whatever you wish, is this true?

If not, can you please tell us the tradition in question you are talking about?

one of them will be that the bread and wine of the memorial of christ's death is his body and blood. And no tradition isnt a smokescreen

Ubenedictus: the very traditions d apostles had b4 writing epistles and gospel, d very one they continued to have while they were writting d said epistle and gospel and they never cease to have even after they had written their respective epistle and gospel.

And which where when was this tradition written and by who?

Why did they not and should they not include it in the bible?

Chritianity was started by christ as opposed to the ways befor the coming of christ.

So, please, when, where was this tradition written and for who and for what purpose?
Thanks.

Ubenedictus: one of them will be that the bread and wine of the memorial of christ's death is his body and blood.

lol.

Is that ^^ the traditions?
Lol. Am disappointed guy.

Ubenedictus: one of them will be that the bread and wine of the memorial of christ's death is his body and blood. And no tradition isnt a smokescreen

if it is not a smoke screen why are you being selective and not pointing out who is qualified to say what a tradition is and who was qualified to give it and when it was written?