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Re: Anony's Christian Logic In Terms Of Tragedy Simplified; by Nobody: 10:48am On Dec 25, 2012 |
Typical....christians running away from the point of the thread. Anony agrees with this nonsense; Hope Truthisliight isnt of the same theology |
Re: Anony's Christian Logic In Terms Of Tragedy Simplified; by truthislight: 10:52am On Dec 25, 2012 |
honeychild: wao! Am speechless. This is the bottom truth. My concern is, why is it that christiandom dont teach this bible truth? But teaches protection and all the rest, even when all the apostles were kill? |
Re: Anony's Christian Logic In Terms Of Tragedy Simplified; by Nobody: 10:55am On Dec 25, 2012 |
truthislight: You are really sick. If I were a christian, I would touch Job with a ten foot pole. How can you call that the truth? Job's family was murdered just to test his faith and you are saying that is the truth? Should your mother, wife and children be killed to test your faith? Isnt that the point of the thread? To stop christians from preaching sadistic doctrines? 1 Like |
Re: Anony's Christian Logic In Terms Of Tragedy Simplified; by truthislight: 10:57am On Dec 25, 2012 |
Atheist:-D:your ^^^ twisting words to deceive you mind. Did you not read that time and unforseen occurances befalls all humans? |
Re: Anony's Christian Logic In Terms Of Tragedy Simplified; by truthislight: 11:01am On Dec 25, 2012 |
Atheist:-D: now you are talking. People/religion no longer represent God and what the bible teaches. The pastor are busy telling people decorated lies. And those lies are what majority of people want to hear. *rut Indeed! |
Re: Anony's Christian Logic In Terms Of Tragedy Simplified; by truthislight: 11:15am On Dec 25, 2012 |
Atheist:-D: the reward of God after the revelation of Jesus christ is everlastig life in God's kingdom. That you go back and take the promises of God to the Nation of Israel befor the coming of christ is your decision. If you decide to go back to take things and activity of God that was meant to serve as a parttant for us to mirror the mind of God and his Judgement befor the coming of christ is is your call. That you wish to go back to the confrontation between Yahweh and nation under satan while he was protecting Israel then is your call. That he decided to show who the almighty God is in the past to show the whole world is your call. This girl has done marvellously well using the bible and not human philosophy. The truth they say is always bitter. |
Re: Anony's Christian Logic In Terms Of Tragedy Simplified; by truthislight: 11:22am On Dec 25, 2012 |
Atheist:-D: "And we know that we originate with God, but the whole world is in the power of the wicked one" (1 John 5:19). What did you think happen, in the garden of eden when God left adam and eve? Did God went after them outside the Garden and started helping them? Then why did he chased them out in the first place? |
Re: Anony's Christian Logic In Terms Of Tragedy Simplified; by truthislight: 11:27am On Dec 25, 2012 |
wiegraf: "Know ye not, that to whom ye yield yourselves servants to obey, his servants ye are to whom ye obey; whether of sin unto death, or of obedience unto righteousness?" (Romans 6:16). It is imaterial what you think. Your father can only bequithe to to his children what he has and not what he does not have. Adam is our father according to the bible and not according to you. |
Re: Anony's Christian Logic In Terms Of Tragedy Simplified; by truthislight: 11:35am On Dec 25, 2012 |
Atheist:-D: Jesus death only open up a relationship and communication with that God that abandon your parent Adam and eve in eden. With this apotunity you can have a part of the benefit that will result when that God reexterblish contact with man again. "And I John saw the holy city, new Jerusalem, coming down from God out of heaven, prepared as a bride adorned for her husband, "And I heard a great voice out of heaven saying, Behold, the tabernacle of God is with men, and he will dwell with them, and they shall be his people, and God himself shall be with them, and be their God, "And God shall wipe away all tears from their eyes; and there shall be no more death, neither sorrow, nor crying, neither shall there be any more pain: for the former things are passed away." (Revelation 21:2-4) ........... Just dont miss out on that ^^^ |
Re: Anony's Christian Logic In Terms Of Tragedy Simplified; by truthislight: 11:40am On Dec 25, 2012 |
wiegraf: where did you see the word omniscience in the bible and where is such definition in the bible. Dont define God and go ahead to fixe him into your context. Next is predestination of all things, i dont think so. Do you think you are in God's image and rational, but yet he God is irrational? |
Re: Anony's Christian Logic In Terms Of Tragedy Simplified; by truthislight: 11:41am On Dec 25, 2012 |
honeychild: and also a partan was set for us in the bible based on the action he took then. |
Re: Anony's Christian Logic In Terms Of Tragedy Simplified; by truthislight: 11:43am On Dec 25, 2012 |
musKeeto: Doesn't free will negate predestination? predestination of all men is not consistent with the bible teaching. |
Re: Anony's Christian Logic In Terms Of Tragedy Simplified; by truthislight: 11:45am On Dec 25, 2012 |
honeychild: yes if his neighbour decides to use his free will the way he likes without regards for the manual provided by the "manufacturer" |
Re: Anony's Christian Logic In Terms Of Tragedy Simplified; by truthislight: 11:52am On Dec 25, 2012 |
musKeeto: that word predestined you see there is a choice of word by the translators. Other translation used the word foreknow. Meaning that he God has foreknow with his fore knowledge that he will chose individual to rule with his son right from the beginning. Though he he did make this plan and it will be so, he did not fixed any particular person into it but people will fit into that plan with their choices/freewill in life as they hear about what christ has done. What he did was predetermind that it will be a specific number of people and not the "particular individual" person/persons. Peace |
Re: Anony's Christian Logic In Terms Of Tragedy Simplified; by truthislight: 11:54am On Dec 25, 2012 |
Logicboy03: Typical....christians running away from the point of the thread. Anony agrees with this nonsense; impossible!!! |
Re: Anony's Christian Logic In Terms Of Tragedy Simplified; by truthislight: 11:58am On Dec 25, 2012 |
Logicboy03: "So went Satan forth from the presence of the LORD, and smote Job with sore boils from the sole of his foot unto his crown." (Job 2:7). Is this ^^^ Yahweh striking Job or the one that said that human will never obey God and his ways as to proved his point? |
Re: Anony's Christian Logic In Terms Of Tragedy Simplified; by Nobody: 12:11pm On Dec 25, 2012 |
truthislight: Satan asked God and God agreed. Dont lie. Either just avoid th story of Job or admit that you're a sadist like Anony |
Re: Anony's Christian Logic In Terms Of Tragedy Simplified; by wiegraf: 8:23pm On Dec 25, 2012 |
truthislight: What does this mean? It says right they ate a fruit, no? |
Re: Anony's Christian Logic In Terms Of Tragedy Simplified; by wiegraf: 8:30pm On Dec 25, 2012 |
truthislight: The very vast majority of you xtians claim god is omniscient. This means predestination. It is all his will. And you talk as if god exists. Where? |
Re: Anony's Christian Logic In Terms Of Tragedy Simplified; by skyfall: 1:30am On Dec 26, 2012 |
@OP I think anybody that believes in the quoted FB post is legally insane. Oh religion! 1 Like |
Re: Anony's Christian Logic In Terms Of Tragedy Simplified; by MrAnony1(m): 6:34am On Dec 26, 2012 |
Logicboy03: Typical....christians running away from the point of the thread. Anony agrees with this nonsenseLol, you have not proven that I agree neither have you proven it is nonsense. All we got from you are the usual empty tirades but funny enough you expect folks to start arguing over something you thoughtlessly blurted out. SMH |
Re: Anony's Christian Logic In Terms Of Tragedy Simplified; by frank317: 7:40am On Dec 26, 2012 |
Mr_Anony: honestly speaking you are the one who has really said nothing in the past 4 pages. what do u think about the post? do u agree or not? if u agree with it, fine, arguement over. But if u dont, what is your own side of view? Rather all i see is u asking the most stupid and annnoying question yet claiming u gat game. I am really dissapointed in you, i was hopin to learn from u on this becasue honestly this matter really bothers me as a christian. i was hoping your response would help me becasue i dont see why evil always happens and we find a way to make God look loving and good. i lost my mum and he watched her die even after all the prayers, even after all her faith, even after hr confessing the she will live and do the work of the lord. today she is no more, i dont know where she is but i miss her like mad. yet God takes the glory, he has not done anything since then to console me and let me knoe why it was very important that he had to take her or allow the devil make me lose her. you should thank God for @truthslight becasue he is the only that has said something meaningful while u have just been blabbing. 4 Likes |
Re: Anony's Christian Logic In Terms Of Tragedy Simplified; by Nobody: 7:55am On Dec 26, 2012 |
frank3.16: A honest christian shames Anony |
Re: Anony's Christian Logic In Terms Of Tragedy Simplified; by mazaje(m): 11:25am On Dec 26, 2012 |
Logicboy03: Honest christians will always put people like anony to shame. . . 3 Likes |
Re: Anony's Christian Logic In Terms Of Tragedy Simplified; by advocate666: 11:28am On Dec 26, 2012 |
frank3.16: There is NOTHING to learn from mr annoying. |
Re: Anony's Christian Logic In Terms Of Tragedy Simplified; by Nobody: 12:00pm On Dec 26, 2012 |
advocate666: lolz.....Anony's dubious tactics are exemplary! He is so good at escaping logic! |
Re: Anony's Christian Logic In Terms Of Tragedy Simplified; by MrAnony1(m): 1:08am On Dec 27, 2012 |
frank3.16:Hmm..........First of all I wanna say I'm sorry about what happened to your mom. Sometimes when tragedy strikes us, it hurts so much and we ask questions of God and it feels like God is ignoring us. Trust me Frank, I've been there myself too. The sad thing is that when we feel the pain, it doesn't matter how many bible verses we throw at it, the thing just won't seem to make any sense. The truth is that right from the start, we are God's creation and our existence is far more than mere bodily existence. Troubles, sickness and death have no power over us because once we know Him, we obtain eternal life. That by far outweighs whatever light afflictions we feel today. Think about it, the hard truth is that whether you like it or not, given enough time if Jesus tarries, both you and me and logicboy and all our friends and family as well as everyone we know will all die at one point or the other in one way or another. And some people will still cry for us and some will question God as if we were meant to live on earth forever. If all there is to us are our physical bodies and death is just a mere ceasing to exist, then what does it matter how we live our lives if at the end we all die anyway, what would it matter if we believe in God or not or if we were serial killers and mass murderers? If in the end we all just die, why do good to anyone? Why not just live for our own pleasure alone? Why sacrifice for others and make anyone else's life better if both you and the person you are helping will eventually die in the end? The bible tells us that there is more to us than our physical bodies. Our souls are far much more important and that is who Christ really cares about. It is for the sake of our souls that Christ sacrificed His life. It doesn't profit us anything if we live in luxury all our lives and then in the end we lose our souls. Christ did not die to make our lives more comfortable. He died to give us something much more important than physical bodily pleasure. This is why Paul can say "for me to live is Christ and to die is gain." God is not a stranger to our pain. There are things we may not understand today but on the last day we shall see God and everything will be made clear to us. Nothing can seperate us from the love He has for us. Not sickness, trials, hardship, not even death. God's love by far outweighs all. Frank, as long as your mother believed in Him, then her death is not the end of the story. You can be comforted that she will resurrect to life on the last day to the glory of God. 1 Like |
Re: Anony's Christian Logic In Terms Of Tragedy Simplified; by advocate666: 1:13am On Dec 27, 2012 |
Mr_Anony: The best non-reponse ever. Typical anonyism: avoid the question and answer something else. Anony, this thread don open your ynash and will be saved for future reference. |
Re: Anony's Christian Logic In Terms Of Tragedy Simplified; by Nobody: 2:02am On Dec 27, 2012 |
advocate666: Lol, the guy is truly shameless |
Re: Anony's Christian Logic In Terms Of Tragedy Simplified; by Nobody: 2:35am On Dec 27, 2012 |
Lawdy lawd.. Never has the title of a thread been so apt. |
Re: Anony's Christian Logic In Terms Of Tragedy Simplified; by wiegraf: 4:19am On Dec 27, 2012 |
My condolences to you @frank if you read this. Ignore the rest of this post though, it's callous heathen stuff Back to anony, so, without god, this: Mr_Anony: hahahahahahaha And yes, it is a bit of a non response. It has little to do with the matter at hand, which has to do with the presence of evil and general xtian selfishness when dealing with situations like these, ie, tragedies of the nature of the op. All you've said is trust in god, have more blind faith, etc. No answers. More sophistry... 1 Like |
Re: Anony's Christian Logic In Terms Of Tragedy Simplified; by Nobody: 4:23am On Dec 27, 2012 |
wiegraf: My condolences to you @frank if you read this. Ignore the rest of this post though, it's callous heathen stuff Frank is not the first christian on this thread to notice Anony's dubious nature. Natural disasters and tragedy cant be explained by religion or theism. However, Anony being Anony, would never want to conced to atheists and then he forms all manners of sophistry with abstract concepts and special definitions to argue. Anony, the master apologist! |
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