OsunOriginal:

What will you say when people allow sentiment to control them instead of analysing the issue objectively? The reason we are in mess today as a country. Deceiving yourself will not solve your problems in life.

Lanre6: if world is not coming to an end why are people dying? I suspect u to be member of illuminati who still enjoy luxuries and scare of death.hmmm........

pDude: Breeze is blowing.

Fowl yansh is opening o.


Ok naw.

loabb2: Are you saying that pastors use juju?

Yes. Quote me: all of them use juju. How can a pastor touch somebody and he falls down? That one is juju at work. Our people are very foolish and ignorant. How can you touch somebody and he falls down? There is something behind this.

Today, we are in a world of falsehood. And if you look at what is happening, you wouldn’t blame the pastors, you would blame our law, which is lax. I said this because if some of these pastors that have been duping people had been brought to book, there would have been sanity. These pastors that are pushing people down, and are saying they are healing them, they should tell us the source of their power. If, as a pastor, you receive your power from Ifa, Ogun or Orunmila, and you are giving credit to another person, this means that you are a saboteur. You are in actual fact a murderer because you are robbing Peter to pay Paul.

Is it true, as some people have claimed, that some religious leaders often come to your headquarters here in Ibadan to consult you?

It is true. At times, they send their representatives. But I clearly remember that the General Overseer of Deeper Life Bible Church, Pastor William Kumuyi, came to see me at our Lagos headquarters in Iju, Lagos, sometime in 1987. It is a public place, he was there, and people saw him. But he went back, never to come back to fulfill his promise to come for knowledge. And without knowledge, there is no way anybody can make it


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Image123: this should be moved to the jokes section.

loabb2: Are you saying that pastors use juju?

Yes. Quote me: all of them use juju. How can a pastor touch somebody and he falls down? That one is juju at work. Our people are very foolish and ignorant. How can you touch somebody and he falls down? There is something behind this.

Today, we are in a world of falsehood. And if you look at what is happening, you wouldn’t blame the pastors, you would blame our law, which is lax. I said this because if some of these pastors that have been duping people had been brought to book, there would have been sanity. These pastors that are pushing people down, and are saying they are healing them, they should tell us the source of their power. If, as a pastor, you receive your power from Ifa, Ogun or Orunmila, and you are giving credit to another person, this means that you are a saboteur. You are in actual fact a murderer because you are robbing Peter to pay Paul.

Is it true, as some people have claimed, that some religious leaders often come to your headquarters here in Ibadan to consult you?

It is true. At times, they send their representatives. But I clearly remember that the General Overseer of Deeper Life Bible Church, Pastor William Kumuyi, came to see me at our Lagos headquarters in Iju, Lagos, sometime in 1987. It is a public place, he was there, and people saw him. But he went back, never to come back to fulfill his promise to come for knowledge. And without knowledge, there is no way anybody can make it


http://sunnewsonline.com/new/specials/icon/guru-maharaj-jis-bombshell-quote-me-pastors-use-juju-to-hold-their-members/

kooto:
you are like dust that is blown arround by the wind without any resistance, it's unfortunate you cannot think through this and see that it is arrant nonsense.

OsunOriginal:

You are a dummy. So, if pastor kumuyi is consulting Ifa before church service, he will tell you? What Guru said is just the tip of the iceberg.

God is using Guru now to open your eyes to the satanic secret of most of the pastors.

obyrich: All I know is that heaven will shock many people. Watch carefully and you will notice subtle traces of satanism in the churches.

chingyjant:
But you never analysed the issue objectively.Instead you allow the sentiment you spoke of to take over your reasoning.Go and re-read the Thread.Am not sure you read it properly perhaps its the headline you just read.The man said the Pastor paid him a visit note A visit in Public and he did'nt go at night.He went on to say that he did'nt come back to get understanding and without Understanding no man can make it.Let me ask you one question is the Pastor in Question WF Kumuyi a failure or a Success?Its a question i will leave you to ponder on.When it comes to issues relating to religious Leaders in Nigeria people are always waiting for that opportunity to unleash their frustration and failure in life on them as if they put them the condition they are in.Remember man is the architect of his own misfortune.

OSDiggy2: Touch not my anoiting and do my prophet no how. The curse of all mighty God will come upon u for calling a pronounced man of God juju help.

loabb2: Are you saying that pastors use juju?

Yes. Quote me: all of them use juju. How can a pastor touch somebody and he falls down? That one is juju at work. Our people are very foolish and ignorant. How can you touch somebody and he falls down? There is something behind this.

Today, we are in a world of falsehood. And if you look at what is happening, you wouldn’t blame the pastors, you would blame our law, which is lax. I said this because if some of these pastors that have been duping people had been brought to book, there would have been sanity. These pastors that are pushing people down, and are saying they are healing them, they should tell us the source of their power. If, as a pastor, you receive your power from Ifa, Ogun or Orunmila, and you are giving credit to another person, this means that you are a saboteur. You are in actual fact a murderer because you are robbing Peter to pay Paul.

Is it true, as some people have claimed, that some religious leaders often come to your headquarters here in Ibadan to consult you?

It is true. At times, they send their representatives. But I clearly remember that the General Overseer of Deeper Life Bible Church, Pastor William Kumuyi, came to see me at our Lagos headquarters in Iju, Lagos, sometime in 1987. It is a public place, he was there, and people saw him. But he went back, never to come back to fulfill his promise to come for knowledge. And without knowledge, there is no way anybody can make it


http://sunnewsonline.com/new/specials/icon/guru-maharaj-jis-bombshell-quote-me-pastors-use-juju-to-hold-their-members/

omodapson:

The bolded got me Kumuyi has no knowledge, yet he is making it big time!!!!!!!!!

loabb2: [b]

It is true. At times, they send their representatives. But I clearly remember that the General Overseer of Deeper Life Bible Church, Pastor William Kumuyi, came to see me at our Lagos headquarters in Iju, Lagos, sometime in 1987. It is a public place, he was there, and people saw him. But he went back, never to come back to fulfill his promise to come for knowledge. And without knowledge, there is no way anybody can make it


http://sunnewsonline.com/new/specials/icon/guru-maharaj-jis-bombshell-quote-me-pastors-use-juju-to-hold-their-members/

chingyjant:
But you never analysed the issue objectively.Instead you allow the sentiment you spoke of to take over your reasoning.Go and re-read the Thread.Am not sure you read it properly perhaps its the headline you just read.The man said the Pastor paid him a visit note A visit in Public and he did'nt go at night.He went on to say that he did'nt come back to get understanding and without Understanding no man can make it.Let me ask you one question is the Pastor in Question WF Kumuyi a failure or a Success?Its a question i will leave you to ponder on.When it comes to issues relating to religious Leaders in Nigeria people are always waiting for that opportunity to unleash their frustration and failure in life on them as if they put them the condition they are in.Remember man is the architect of his own misfortune.

OlowoTee:

Let's be open-minded and not be quick to condemn other churches. It's the tactic of the devil, or when have we been so full of the Holy Spirit to discern which church is of God and not? Don't get me wrong, it is very possible for some Christians to have this gift of discernment, however when it's become every one's task to crucify this church and that churCh...then there lies the problem.


Some days ago, it was Pastor Adeboye's church and a whole lots of us talked so carelessly against this humble, godly servant of the Most High. Other days, it has been of Oyedepo etc...Now, Kumuyi?

Now, pls tell me, which of these churches could we say is of God with all the incessant crucifixion and condemnation? Haba! Nairalandiii.. Let's watch what we say...words are powerful. We need to be mindful of our words.. To others and ourselve

OsunOriginal:

Shut up your mouth... You are the one who didnt read the post. What did Kumuyi promise Guru that he didnt go back to fulfill?

He discussed with Guru and promised to come back to fulfill some promises - all these were done in the public as well abi?

ihedioramma: YOU ALL WAYS ON NET

OSDiggy2: The curse of all mighty God will come upon u for calling a pronounced man of God juju help.[/color]Touch not my anoiting and do my prophet no how. The curse of all mighty God will come upon u for calling a pronounced man of God juju help.