cap28:

the legacy of those measures are responsible for the inequality that exists in south africa today.

years of aparthied has created generations of black south africans with limited education and a lot of bitterness - if i were a black south african i would feel bitter too when looking back at how my parents and grand parents were disenfranchised in their own country.

white south africans still see themselves as europeans this is why they speak afrikaans and english - if they saw themselves as africans they would do away with their own language and culture.

they are not africans just as a black person born in europe is not a european

also whites did not decide to share the country with blacks - they were forced to do so as a result of sustained challenges from the ANC and the fear of an impending race war in which they would have sustained loss of valuable property and lives.

Did you know prior to the end of white minority rule the israeli's were helping them to build a nuclear weapon? why do you think they were doing that?

Yes but you not a south african.

What. Our cultur both afrikans and english is diffrent to any european culture. I mean why should we get rid of our langue and heriage when it all ready african.

But a black persone born in amrica is? That is doubil standard. We have been jere for 100s of years.

Deklerk gave up power after asking the people if they wanted to end aparthied. There was major threat of a uprising in the 1990s

SA's nukes where fully south african. And where built in mid to late 1970s. The resoane. We where technicaly at war with the USSR and warsaw pact and we where at war with cuba and angola. The nukes where incase things went bad.

tim107: imf and world bank are owned by rothchild look at zimbabwe

True, Mugabe was rather direct with how he handled them but from the results, we see they weren't going to give up their economic stronghold on the country without a fight. That's why i belive Mandela was wise with his negotiations with the whites. Freedom of the South African blacks was the immediate priority at that period. That. Freedom can't be bought with Money. Yes, the Whites still hold the Economic key to S.A but the Black populace now have access to a Wide variety of opportunities now to develop themselves and with time and the right decisions, they can wrest a larger portion of the Economy from the Whites.

cap28:

I know, the european and american politicians have all been bought and paid for by multinational corporations and the banking elite, this is why any country that tries to operate outside their control gets smashed to pieces - this is what happened to Libya - infact Qadaffi's sons were friendly with Nat Rothschild but even that could not save them from invasion, the libyan central bank was the only african central bank operating outside the rothschild controlled banking cartels.

amen

andrewza:

Yes but you not a south african.

What. Our cultur both afrikans and english is diffrent to any european culture. I mean why should we get rid of our langue and heriage when it all ready african.

But a black persone born in amrica is? That is doubil standard. We have been jere for 100s of years.

Deklerk gave up power after asking the people if they wanted to end aparthied. There was major threat of a uprising in the 1990s

SA's nukes where fully south african. And where built in mid to late 1970s. The resoane. We where technicaly at war with the USSR and warsaw pact and we where at war with cuba and angola. The nukes where incase things went bad.

No offence mate but you are not an african - your culture is not an african culture, i don't care whether it is different from european culture, afrikaans has its roots in dutch which is not an african language.

a black person whose ancestors were kidnapped and enslaved in north america is not there of his own volition and therefore has a right to call himself an american - especially given the fact that his/her ancestors built north america. if you people had any respect for black africans (which you don't) why did yoiu introduce a law that stipulated that black south africans could not go beyond a primary school education, remember Verwoerd said that there was no point in educating blacks beyond that point as they would not be able to use the education for anything as their designated place in south african society was that of a servant ie to serve whites forever - do you rememember that quote?

De Klerk gave up power because the economy of south africa was being threatened by the violence and mass boycotts spearheaded by the ANC - he did not give up power voluntarily.

You were at war with Cuba who sent troops to angola to dislodge your fellow racists who were doing everything possible to keep in place a similar aparthied system in angola - you also knew that a nuclear weapon would give you the upper hand against any other black african countries who might want to fight on the side of the ANC to dislodge white minority rule from south africa

cap28: HIV aids, endless wars funded by the United States and EU, debt enslavement are what the United States and the EU have imposed on africa and its people for the past 30 years, is there any way out from this endless nightmare?aids was created to wipe out the black population

amen! Do u know BoydGraves the black american doctor?

cap28:

No offence mate but you are not an african - your culture is not an african culture, i don't care whether it is different from european culture, afrikaans has its roots in dutch which is not an african language.

a black person whose ancestors were kidnapped and enslaved in north america is not there of his own volition and therefore has a right to call himself an american - especially given the fact that his/her ancestors built north america. if you people had any respect for black africans (which you don't) why did yoiu introduce a law that stipulated that black south africans could not go beyond a primary school education, remember Verwoerd said that there was no point in educating blacks beyond that point as they would not be able to use the education for anything as their designated place in south african society was that of a servant ie to serve whites forever - do you rememember that quote?

De Klerk gave up power because the economy of south africa was being threatened by the violence and mass boycotts spearheaded by the ANC - he did not give up power voluntarily.

You were at war with Cuba who sent troops to angola to dislodge your fellow racists who were doing everything possible to keep in place a similar aparthied system in angola - you also knew that a nuclear weapon would give you the upper hand against any other black african countries who might want to fight on the side of the ANC to dislodge white minority rule from south africa

Have you ever compaired the dutch and afrikanse culture. Because if you have you would see they nothing alike.

And nigerians all ways like to cliam it was not the blacks in sa who built it but the whites. Any case the black amricans where given a chance to return to africa. It called liberia and they ruined it. Any way find one eurpean country that sees white south afrikanse has there people


SA was surving the boycots for a long befre 19990.

Actualy it was to stope the spread of comunasiam. The other threat.

Pehapse you should not talk about what you do not under stand. I mean I am more african than you.

tim107:

aids was created to wipe out the black population

absolutely! and guess what? the europeans and americans don't think its working fast enough!

have you heard of NSSM 200?

This was a document drafted in the early 1970s by Henry Kissinger former National security adviser to Richard Nixon - he came up with the idea of how to control populations in countries designated as national security threats to the united states, in this document he states that certain third world countries due to their large populations and abundant natural resources could pose a possible economic threat to the united states as they could one day emerge as competititors to the economic dominance of the united states, nigeria was listed as one of the countries that could pose such a threat, he suggested that the best way to curtail the growth and economic development of such countries was to undermine them economically by way of debt enslavement (IMF, world bank loans) use of biological weapons (HIV aids) or the use of war (funding of rebel groups and supplying of arms to both sides) and famine (witholding of food aid to war torn areas such as somalia in order to cause mass casualties as a result of starvation).

Fast forward to 2013 - why is the united states deploying troops all over the african continent under the guise of fighting islamic militants (US AFRICOM)

AFRICOM is not down south here. May be it because those above are lead by spineless sell outs.

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absolutely! and guess what? the europeans and americans don't think its working fast enough!

have you heard of NSSM 200?

This was a document drafted in the early 1970s by Henry Kissinger former National security adviser to Richard Nixon - he came up with the idea of how to control populations in countries designated as national security threats to the united states, in this document he states that certain third world countries due to their large populations and abundant natural resources could pose a possible economic threat to the united states as they could one day emerge as competititors to the economic dominance of the united states, nigeria was listed as one of the countries that could pose such a threat, he suggested that the best way to curtail the growth and economic development of such countries was to undermine them economically by way of debt enslavement (IMF, world bank loans) use of biological weapons (HIV aids) or the use of war (funding of rebel groups and supplying of arms to both sides) and famine (witholding of food aid to war torn areas such as somalia in order to cause mass casualties as a result of starvation).

Fast forward to 2013 - why is the united states deploying troops all over the african continent under the guise of fighting islamic militants (US AFRICOM) [/quote 100% correct, they want to own and control our natural resources

andrewza:

Have you ever compaired the dutch and afrikanse culture. Because if you have you would see they nothing alike.

And nigerians all ways like to cliam it was not the blacks in sa who built it but the whites. [b]Any case the black amricans where given a chance to return to africa. It called liberia and they ruined it. [/b]Any way find one eurpean country that sees white south afrikanse has there people


SA was surving the boycots for a long befre 19990.

Actualy it was to stope the spread of comunasiam. The other threat.

Pehapse you should not talk about what you do not under stand. I mean I am more african than you.

the ex slaves that were sent to liberia by the US govt were sent there as puppets and agents of the US govt - they were not sent there to develop liberia. these ex slaves segregated themselves from the indigenous liberians and acted as if they were superior to them, thereby re-enacting the very same attitudes of their slave masters. They collaborated with their former slave masters to rape and pillage the liberians of their natural resources - have you heard of the american rubber company Firestone? well the US govt used those american freed slaves as pawns to assist them in looting the liberian economy of their rubber, those freed slave colluded with their former slave masters who used indigenous liberians as slave labourers on the rubber plantations - in exchange for helping their former slave masters they were allowed to run the country for almost 200 years until the indigenous liberians violently overthrew them - so please get your facts right.

ba7man: True, Mugabe was rather direct with how he handled them but from the results, we see they weren't going to give up their economic stronghold on the country without a fight. That's why i belive Mandela was wise with his negotiations with the whites. Freedom of the South African blacks was the immediate priority at that period. That. Freedom can't be bought with Money. Yes, the Whites still hold the Economic key to S.A but the Black populace now have access to a Wide variety of opportunities now to develop themselves and with time and the right decisions, they can wrest a larger portion of the Economy from the Whites.

true

andrewza: AFRICOM is not down south here. May be it because those above are lead by spineless sell outs.

no its because south africa's natural resources are already owned by european and american multinational corporations and banking interests.
Take for example Anglo America plc - the world's largest producers of platinum - its a british owned multinational.

cap28:

no its because south africa's natural resources are already owned by european and american multinational corporations and banking interests.
Take for example Anglo America plc - the world's largest producers of platinum - its a british owned multinational.

In south africa the rothchild operate under the name Oppenheimer they controll diamond and gold mines in the usa the operate under the name Rockefella, Britain royal family

cap28:

no its because south africa's natural resources are already owned by european and american multinational corporations and banking interests.
Take for example Anglo America plc - the world's largest producers of platinum - its a british owned multinational.

SA laws means they all of major SA ownship. And there are a masive amount of local even fully black owend companys in SA. So again keep your facts straight. So we a lot better at keeping how resoures in house than nigeria. Tell me who drills your oil sells it then refines it and sells back to you. Nigeria being robed and having it stolen propertie sold back to it again.

And what about Zim who all so ritch in resoures no africom, angola, nambia, extra extra.

Cap28.....I dont know you personally, but I have to say it as I see it bra....sorry

Nothing gets some passionate more than a white man.....not even their fellow black man, unless they're going at it against old blue eyes.....lol


All of it is double talk anyway...........

Rhino.5dm:
Where did you get the 300 billion Lagos monthly IGR from? Was that the effect of the 50 dead bodies contaminating your source of drinking water? 300 * 12 = 3.6 trillion in a year? . . .so how much is Nigeria's total yearly IGR? So much of a shameless low self esteem guy claiming to be from south west. Your hatred towards anything Yoruba betrays you at once.

You think schooling alone in south west can make you one of us? if you like start wearing 3/4 trousers and mark up your face, you can only deceive yourself. Fool

Your crassitude must be legendary, can't even differentiate between a typo and real intention! Check it, you have started again on a rabid note

All in your bit to paint Fashola black you ended up exposing your stupidity. What a molested goat.

tomakint:
Your crassitude must be legendary, can't even differentiate between a typo and real intention! Check it, you have started again on a rabid note

Rhino.5dm:
All in your bit to paint Fashola black you ended up exposing your stupidity. What a molested goat.

There must be a strong 'nexus' between you and 'molestation', if you are not talking about vaseline, you will mention lux, my prayer for you is that whosoever did that to you while you were young and whosoever you might have molested or still molesting may God have mercy on you, indeed you need '100% Mercy of God'