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Re: Osun Distributes Free Tablet-Computers To Students by adim2(m): 12:15pm On Mar 20, 2013
Using easton's system analysis, it is clear that this project was a top down approach project and there was no demand from the immediate population but rather a thought that took place at the black box/political system which just came out as an output
Re: Osun Distributes Free Tablet-Computers To Students by adexsimply(m): 12:17pm On Mar 20, 2013
Okija_juju:


EVEN AN APPLE IPAD THAT IS A MUCH BETTER TABLET DOESNT COST AS MUCH...

Rauf just a`ssfucked Osun people.. grin
how could you believe sumthing posted with an outdated browser na?
Re: Osun Distributes Free Tablet-Computers To Students by jummy05: 12:58pm On Mar 20, 2013
I give it to Ogbeni in terms of innovative programmes and policy. I wish other states' Govs can take a clue.This man is really trying.Despite the small amount of money the State of Osun gets as federal allocation,the state has the lowest unemployment rate in Nigeria (according to National Bureau of Statistics).
More grease to your elbows

Re: Osun Distributes Free Tablet-Computers To Students by jummy05: 1:06pm On Mar 20, 2013
Okija_juju:

This has nothing to do with bigotry..

The article said free tablets to students. If they are to return it, then its not free and it wasnt stated in the article either. Beacuse that means the Tablets are the property of the state.
On the issue of light in Oshogbo, I cant argue with you because I dont have any evidence to refute your point, however, Oshogbo is the states capital.. Remember I said 'RURAL AREAS', not 'URBAN AREAS'.. I hope you know the difference between both.

OKIJA-JUJU


I doubt whether you have been to Osun State. Osun state has one of the best power supply in Nigeria because of the presence of National grid there.I have been opportuned to be in many rural areas in Osun state.Most of the rural areas in Osun state enjoy stable power supply.
Re: Osun Distributes Free Tablet-Computers To Students by Fhemmmy: 1:35pm On Mar 20, 2013
rman:

The students will give it back after SS3 so it can re-programmed for other students.

This concept is like an electronic mobile libary that can be updated regularly and friendly to use.

The contract also covers providing support for a number of years.

It is a great concept Okija

That was meant for the joke section, and after a year usage of the tablet, tell me how much life will be left in them, with the trend at which technology is changing? I will bet you anything if 500 tablets were given out, due to wear and tear and malfunctioning, at the end of the year, at least 50% will be gone or dead and 50% of the remain will be acting up, while some will be lose or sold off and the rest will be with replaced part . . I am not sure if i have missed something, but what is the specs and cost of the "Tablet"
Re: Osun Distributes Free Tablet-Computers To Students by Fhemmmy: 1:36pm On Mar 20, 2013
jummy05:

OKIJA-JUJU


I doubt whether you have been to Osun State. Osun state has one of the best power supply in Nigeria because of the presence of National grid there.I have been opportuned to be in many rural areas in Osun state.Most of the rural areas in Osun state enjoy stable power supply.

Are you speaking from your experience or what they said . . . I will like to hear from someone that resides in Oshun state and not just oshogbo oh, Oshun state.
Re: Osun Distributes Free Tablet-Computers To Students by Fhemmmy: 1:38pm On Mar 20, 2013
Saladin1: For your information the same religion u blasted above was the religion of the majority in the state of Osun and the entire SW, even the gov is an adherent therefore u should know that the civilisation hating folks are the problem not the religion.

I am in support of all religion oh, cos we all could co-exist, but where did you get your stats from, that majority of Oshun people are Muslims
Re: Osun Distributes Free Tablet-Computers To Students by Fhemmmy: 1:39pm On Mar 20, 2013
adim2: I tried accessing the opon imo website for valuable information on the project, but i was stuck with one link. Please guys do something about the website. Now back to the issue at hand, Opon Imo does give an edge to a student who uses it to a student reading from a hard print. For us to argue that it will better their lives, i really don't dispute that. But let's consider the number of intelligent, semi intelligent and less intelligent students that will benefit from it. If the gadget has a bluetooth device. Woah enough opportunity for x-rated films. This will surely defeat the aim of the project. like many people have suggested the money he used in acquiring these gadgets should have been used in equipping many schools. Come to think of it, this gadget has lots of immediate disadvantages than advantages. I understand that every government wants to do something different from other and he has achieved that because no government has done dis before. Kudos

There are ways to block all those.
Re: Osun Distributes Free Tablet-Computers To Students by mapet: 3:58pm On Mar 20, 2013
1. I am appalled at the way you guys just reason carelessly
2. Your question on how they are going to charge the tablet with no constant electricity is even dumber. How have we been charging cell phones, yet we have over 100million registerd lines in Nigeria
3. You should have known that, secondary school students are not to "learn how to use e-tablets", but to put e-tablet to good use to enhance their learning. At this point, I'm tempted to doubt if you even know what e-tablet is and what use it serves
4. If quantifying the benefit of this project is rocket science to you, then by all means confess. It is unbelievable at the rate some of you guys just display crass ignorance. This is one of the strategies renowned bodies, UN, UNESCO etc are deloying to balance the learning gaps in 3rd world countries. In places like Kenya, for example this model have been trialed and was successful. It would have been better you do a research rather than this display that serves no value to the collective good.
5. How do you measure the success? well subsequent average performance of the kids in WAEC, NECO for starters, number of students from Osun that gain admission in to Unis, Polys, Technical Schools etc, Number of Osun Students that can self start in business, Innovation indexes of Osun students etc then you can trace it to ability of Osun students to assemble and maintain the e-tablets etc. Has the coming of computers revolutionalize the way we do things in Nigeria?.....then go figure the rest......
courage89: I think this is not only a bad idea, but wastage of public funds. How are these people to charge tablets when there is no constant electricity? What benefit/benefits are they to gain by learning how to use e-tablets, that will be useful to them in real life? How much are they expensing on these elephant projects? How do you quantify the benefits of these projects and how do you measure its success?

Why not use these funds to build libraries, and equip them with necessary books, past questions and other tools to enabble these student focus properly. Why not use these funds to subsidize after hour lessons for these students. Why not use the money to setup computer labs, and employ competent teachers to teach these students the fundamental rudiments of ict.

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Re: Osun Distributes Free Tablet-Computers To Students by mapet: 4:03pm On Mar 20, 2013
1. For starters, your question in bold is way off point and of little value. Why are you lots trying to paint Osun as if we have no electricity? You have never set foot on any Osun soil and you're simply regurgitating the rubbish perpertrated on NL
2. Except you show us where the government said e-tablet is a substitute to public libraries, then it's also way off as well

Akiika: My guess is that the e-learning stuffs must have been pre-downloaded into the tablet before handing it over to the students. Well, not a bad idea but will the student get generators to charge the tablet when the battery is running low in power? I think equipping public and school libraries with computers may be more effective, but where are the libraries? Anyway, it's a good gesture...at least the Governor is not dashing another rich artiste Prado for wedding like the Akwa Ibom scumbag Gov. did.
Re: Osun Distributes Free Tablet-Computers To Students by mapet: 4:04pm On Mar 20, 2013
mee too
Abiri.segun:
That is my state, am a proud Osun guy.
God bless Ogbeni Rauf Aregbesola! God bless Omoluabi state!! God bless South West!!! God bless Nigeria!!!!
Re: Osun Distributes Free Tablet-Computers To Students by mapet: 4:05pm On Mar 20, 2013
1. All the tertiary institutions you're a liar
2. It is worrying the way you're reasoning......for a student in tetiary institution

demainman: Hmmm, Ogbeni is not trying at all, all state tertiary institution in osun r on strike instead of addressing d issue, ogbeni is busy doing somtin else. He has lost his priority as mr gov. We've sitting at home for d past 2wks now. He is now using d so call opon ifa to campaign against 2014.
Re: Osun Distributes Free Tablet-Computers To Students by mapet: 4:08pm On Mar 20, 2013
1. Ignorance on your part
2. Osun state government has put about 2yrs into planning this....
bams01: @ all saying this is a good move, kudos, bla bla.....
Life is in stages thats why u learn how to crawl before walking.
Ogbeni got it wrong.
I dont need to explain anything but feel free to come to Ekiti & see the effect of the mini laptops Fayemi gave students.
Without proper planning & orientation, even the most noble intention can boomerang.
Re: Osun Distributes Free Tablet-Computers To Students by mapet: 4:11pm On Mar 20, 2013
@ Ibidapo
1. You seemingly don't know what the e-tablet is about....how can you build computer halls (whatever that is...) and equip with e-tablet
Ibidapson: A computer halls sud have bn built across dis schools and be equipped wt d so called OPON IMO. This gadget ll be misused as av already xperienced in Ekiti state where porn movies are found on it
Re: Osun Distributes Free Tablet-Computers To Students by mapet: 4:30pm On Mar 20, 2013
@ Okija_juju,

You have made some needless assertions, baseless points, raised unnecessary fear and put things in wrong perspectives

1. If Osun has added 10million Us dollars in recurrent expenditure to better the lot of their children, clearing evident in a initiative to enhance their learning at no cost, how is that a bad thing
2. It is even not a worry if Osun State spend the money year in year out. first off, this is the only year they'll make huge capital investment in procuring the device, as they have to give 3 sss clases in one full swoop. subsequent years (depending on how long they intend it to last) they'll only have to bother about the entries alone. Now if a state has boldly committed to do that, the question of "if the state is wealthy" is misplaced. Not all state are rent seeking. Not all state depends only on the FG allocation alone. If after 2yrs of planning, that was spunned out of 3day education summit, that produced a 7-10man committee of accomplished men and women, who thought through and made recommendations on the education strategy for Osun State, then your fears are seemingly 2years late. It is unfortunate that many of you did not following the history of the Opon Imo and only raising doubts that has been cleared 2years ago
4. The Tablets are not meant to last forever. They probably have 3-year life span. In the strategy, there is provision of transfer of knowlege for quick repairs and simple maintenance, which in most cases will be done by indegenes of Osun. Some of the OYES graduands have been trained on repairs works. You ask some ridiculous questions. The e-tablet will break, will damage in some cases, but these are part of the costs of ownership, which has been factored. SSS students are not kids. These are people that have flooded cyber cafes all over the countries, these are people that operate PCs even better than many of us. These are people that have used cell phones and ipads either in secret or openly........ If any of the recipients misplaces or damages his/her tablet, then if he/she desires, foot the bill for replacement. But will these projected isolated events outweigh the proposed value?
5. Electricity to charge them is a non-issue. Most of Osun students are rural dwellers OMG this is the height of crude ignorance and arrogant display of illogic...
6. It is even sillier to alledge it was not well thought through when obviously it's your laziness to find out what was actually done in terms of conception and planning that is now being executed
3.
Okija_juju: [b]Chai!! Nigerians are in deep trouble...

Osun state just added atleast 10million US dollars to their recurrent expenditure.

Let me explain.. So tablets were handed to students in secondary school today. We all forget that tomorrow, this set would pass out and another would come and they too will need tablets as well. That means every year, osun will fork out millions of dollars to buy them tablets. If the state is that wealthy, then no problem, but you and I know that osun is far from that.

Secondly, what's the quality of the schools in osun state? Atleast rivers state governor has built solid structures and equipped them such that will in 10years, many sets of students will meet good schools on ground, what of osun schools? Rivers state even provides books and uniforms free to students as well.

40 million dollars would have set up a good statewide I.T structure in all the schools that would have served many students for years.

Tablets are like phones. They are good but come with issues. Some will break, some will crash, some will get damaged some will get missing. What service and replacement plan was set up for these tablets if any and how accessible is it to all osun students!? Wouldn't puting 100 internet enabled computers in all schools in osun state have been cheaper!?

I love this concept on its surface value, but in the long run, sounds like penny wise, pound foolish. This feels like a white elephant programme by this government and its sustainability is in doubt. Let's not forget that these are kids and they are very likely to damage these toys and I wonder if osun government would replace them when they get damaged or lost.

Another thing is if they have adjusted the osun syllabus/curriculum to factor in these tablets. How about electricity to charge them!? Remember these are public school students and are most likely rural dwellers who we all know have minimal access to electricity, water and roads. And what about the specs of these tablets!?

A few years back, some states gave out laptops to students. How is that programme today!? Are they still giving out these laptops or was it a one time government promo.

Let face it. I'm happy for these students. Atleast even if its for just now, they all get to enjoy owning a luxury toy. However, if the schools in osun state are shiit and the quality of education rubbish, then this move is like putting fresh paint on a damaged building. You can't leap before you walk and the cost implication might cripple the state should this be sustained.

My 10cents..

#Madam Caro, abeg give me 2 shots of kinkana make I take wash eye first.. [/b]

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Re: Osun Distributes Free Tablet-Computers To Students by mapet: 4:32pm On Mar 20, 2013
1. What is "basic laptop"?
2. The concept was not to improve programming or "Solid or liquid" IT skills, but to enhance learning.

so your supposition is realy defected and wrong on arrival
mrjingles: Good plan but...How about buying basic laptops with the money, install a solid internet backbone and fund a serious curriculum on software programming and other solid IT skills? The students would gain much more from that.
Re: Osun Distributes Free Tablet-Computers To Students by Okijajuju1(m): 4:37pm On Mar 20, 2013
mapet: @ Okija_juju,

You have made some needless assertions, baseless points, raised unnecessary fear and put things in wrong perspectives

1. If Osun has added 10million Us dollars in recurrent expenditure to better the lot of their children, clearing evident in a initiative to enhance their learning at no cost, how is that a bad thing
2. It is even not a worry if Osun State spend the money year in year out. first off, this is the only year they'll make huge capital investment in procuring the device, as they have to give 3 sss clases in one full swoop. subsequent years (depending on how long they intend it to last) they'll only have to bother about the entries alone. Now if a state has boldly committed to do that, the question of "if the state is wealthy" is misplaced. Not all state are rent seeking. Not all state depends only on the FG allocation alone. If after 2yrs of planning, that was spunned out of 3day education summit, that produced a 7-10man committee of accomplished men and women, who thought through and made recommendations on the education strategy for Osun State, then your fears are seemingly 2years late. It is unfortunate that many of you did not following the history of the Opon Imo and only raising doubts that has been cleared 2years ago
4. The Tablets are not meant to last forever. They probably have 3-year life span. In the strategy, there is provision of transfer of knowlege for quick repairs and simple maintenance, which in most cases will be done by indegenes of Osun. Some of the OYES graduands have been trained on repairs works. You ask some ridiculous questions. The e-tablet will break, will damage in some cases, but these are part of the costs of ownership, which has been factored. SSS students are not kids. These are people that have flooded cyber cafes all over the countries, these are people that operate PCs even better than many of us. These are people that have used cell phones and ipads either in secret or openly........ If any of the recipients misplaces or damages his/her tablet, then if he/she desires, foot the bill for replacement. But will these projected isolated events outweigh the proposed value?
5. Electricity to charge them is a non-issue. Most of Osun students are rural dwellers OMG this is the height of crude ignorance and arrogant display of illogic...
6. It is even sillier to alledge it was not well thought through when obviously it's your laziness to find out what was actually done in terms of conception and planning that is now being executed
3.

[b]Omo!! To answer you all these comments go hard.. but I will just tackle point number one for now..

Βουκέφαλος: NIGERIAN diasporans contribute more to the nation's economy than 34 of the country's 36 states according to the findings of a recent World Bank report showing that a total of $21bn was remitted back home during the course of 2012.

In the report by the bank’s Remittances Unit, only Lagos and Rivers States have higher gross domestic products (GDP) than the amount remitted back home by the diaspora. Lagos State has a GDP of $33.67bn, while that of Rivers State is $21.07bn, which is just slightly higher than the amount the diaspora sent back last year.

Key among the Nigerian diaspora communities are those of the US and UK which remitted back $12.26bn and $7.76bn respectively last year. Overall, Nigeria is fifth in the global remittance table behind India, China, the Philippines and Mexico whose diasporas sent $70bn, $66bn, $24bn and $24bn back home respectively last year.

No doubt these figures are likely to fuel demands for diasporans to be given a vote as apart from the fact that numerically, they are larger than many states, they also contribute more economically. In the UK for instance, the population of Nigerians is in excess of 2m, which is greater than the 1.9m people in President Goodluck Jonathan's Bayelsa State.

According to the World Bank, money sent home by the Nigerian diaspora is going into socio-economic development as it is paying for services like health, housing, business start-ups and education. A report from the bank's Population Reference Bureau said that most of the money sub-Saharan migrant workers send home is spent on education, health care, buying land, building houses, starting business or improving farms.

In many low- and middle-income countries worldwide, remittances make up a sizeable share of GDP, accounting for as much as 30% in some cases. In Nigeria, remittances are said to account for 5% of total national GDP.

Nigeria is currently in the middle of a constitutional review and one of the key proposals being looked at by legislators is how to give the diasporans a vote. Diaspora communities want to be able to take part in general elections due in 2015.

Nigeria’s States by GDP

1 Lagos State $33,679,258,023
2 Rivers State $21,073,410,422
Total Diaspora $21bn (World Bank Estimate)
3 Delta State $16,749,250,544
4 Oyo State $16,121,670,484
5 Imo State $14,212,637,486
6 Kano State $12,393,103,864
US Diaspora $12,26bn (World Bank Estimate)
7 Edo State $11,888,446,884
8 Akwa Ibom State $11,179,887,963
9 Ogun State $10,470,415,017
10 Kaduna State $10,334,763,785
11 Cross River State $9,292,059,207
12 Abia State $8,687,442,705
13 Ondo State $8,414,302,623
UK Diaspora $7,76bn (World Bank Estimate)
14 Osun State $7,280,597,521
15 Benue State $6,864,209,262
16 Anambra State $6,764,219,562
17 Katsina State $6,022,655,197
18 Niger State $6,002,007,080
19 Borno State $5,175,165,142
20 Plateau State $5,154,059,937
21 Sokoto State $4,818,615,261
22 Bauchi State $4,713,858,180
23 Kogi State $4,642,794,262
24 Adamawa State $4,582,045,246
25 Enugu State $4,396,590,769
26 Bayelsa State $4,337,065,923
27 Zamfara State $4,123,829,498
28 Kwara State $3,841,827,534
29 taraba State $3,397,790,217
30 Kebbi State $3,290,847,166
31 Nassarawa State $3,022,828,885
32 Jigawa State $2,988,014,405
33 Ekiti State $2,848,372,512
34 Ebonyi State $2,732,472,739
35 Gombe State $2,500,467,306
36 Yobe State $2,011,499,000


http://www.nigerianwatch.com/news/1420-diasporans-contribute-more-to-nigerias-gdp-than-34-of-its-36-states

How wise is it for this state to add such a recurrent expense to its miserly account?![/b]
Re: Osun Distributes Free Tablet-Computers To Students by Okijajuju1(m): 4:37pm On Mar 20, 2013
mapet: @ Okija_juju,

You have made some needless assertions, baseless points, raised unnecessary fear and put things in wrong perspectives

1. If Osun has added 10million Us dollars in recurrent expenditure to better the lot of their children, clearing evident in a initiative to enhance their learning at no cost, how is that a bad thing
2. It is even not a worry if Osun State spend the money year in year out. first off, this is the only year they'll make huge capital investment in procuring the device, as they have to give 3 sss clases in one full swoop. subsequent years (depending on how long they intend it to last) they'll only have to bother about the entries alone. Now if a state has boldly committed to do that, the question of "if the state is wealthy" is misplaced. Not all state are rent seeking. Not all state depends only on the FG allocation alone. If after 2yrs of planning, that was spunned out of 3day education summit, that produced a 7-10man committee of accomplished men and women, who thought through and made recommendations on the education strategy for Osun State, then your fears are seemingly 2years late. It is unfortunate that many of you did not following the history of the Opon Imo and only raising doubts that has been cleared 2years ago
4. The Tablets are not meant to last forever. They probably have 3-year life span. In the strategy, there is provision of transfer of knowlege for quick repairs and simple maintenance, which in most cases will be done by indegenes of Osun. Some of the OYES graduands have been trained on repairs works. You ask some ridiculous questions. The e-tablet will break, will damage in some cases, but these are part of the costs of ownership, which has been factored. SSS students are not kids. These are people that have flooded cyber cafes all over the countries, these are people that operate PCs even better than many of us. These are people that have used cell phones and ipads either in secret or openly........ If any of the recipients misplaces or damages his/her tablet, then if he/she desires, foot the bill for replacement. But will these projected isolated events outweigh the proposed value?
5. Electricity to charge them is a non-issue. Most of Osun students are rural dwellers OMG this is the height of crude ignorance and arrogant display of illogic...
6. It is even sillier to alledge it was not well thought through when obviously it's your laziness to find out what was actually done in terms of conception and planning that is now being executed
3.

[b]Omo!! To answer you all these comments go hard.. but I will just tackle point number one for now..

Βουκέφαλος: NIGERIAN diasporans contribute more to the nation's economy than 34 of the country's 36 states according to the findings of a recent World Bank report showing that a total of $21bn was remitted back home during the course of 2012.

In the report by the bank’s Remittances Unit, only Lagos and Rivers States have higher gross domestic products (GDP) than the amount remitted back home by the diaspora. Lagos State has a GDP of $33.67bn, while that of Rivers State is $21.07bn, which is just slightly higher than the amount the diaspora sent back last year.

Key among the Nigerian diaspora communities are those of the US and UK which remitted back $12.26bn and $7.76bn respectively last year. Overall, Nigeria is fifth in the global remittance table behind India, China, the Philippines and Mexico whose diasporas sent $70bn, $66bn, $24bn and $24bn back home respectively last year.

No doubt these figures are likely to fuel demands for diasporans to be given a vote as apart from the fact that numerically, they are larger than many states, they also contribute more economically. In the UK for instance, the population of Nigerians is in excess of 2m, which is greater than the 1.9m people in President Goodluck Jonathan's Bayelsa State.

According to the World Bank, money sent home by the Nigerian diaspora is going into socio-economic development as it is paying for services like health, housing, business start-ups and education. A report from the bank's Population Reference Bureau said that most of the money sub-Saharan migrant workers send home is spent on education, health care, buying land, building houses, starting business or improving farms.

In many low- and middle-income countries worldwide, remittances make up a sizeable share of GDP, accounting for as much as 30% in some cases. In Nigeria, remittances are said to account for 5% of total national GDP.

Nigeria is currently in the middle of a constitutional review and one of the key proposals being looked at by legislators is how to give the diasporans a vote. Diaspora communities want to be able to take part in general elections due in 2015.

Nigeria’s States by GDP

1 Lagos State $33,679,258,023
2 Rivers State $21,073,410,422
Total Diaspora $21bn (World Bank Estimate)
3 Delta State $16,749,250,544
4 Oyo State $16,121,670,484
5 Imo State $14,212,637,486
6 Kano State $12,393,103,864
US Diaspora $12,26bn (World Bank Estimate)
7 Edo State $11,888,446,884
8 Akwa Ibom State $11,179,887,963
9 Ogun State $10,470,415,017
10 Kaduna State $10,334,763,785
11 Cross River State $9,292,059,207
12 Abia State $8,687,442,705
13 Ondo State $8,414,302,623
UK Diaspora $7,76bn (World Bank Estimate)
14 Osun State $7,280,597,521
15 Benue State $6,864,209,262
16 Anambra State $6,764,219,562
17 Katsina State $6,022,655,197
18 Niger State $6,002,007,080
19 Borno State $5,175,165,142
20 Plateau State $5,154,059,937
21 Sokoto State $4,818,615,261
22 Bauchi State $4,713,858,180
23 Kogi State $4,642,794,262
24 Adamawa State $4,582,045,246
25 Enugu State $4,396,590,769
26 Bayelsa State $4,337,065,923
27 Zamfara State $4,123,829,498
28 Kwara State $3,841,827,534
29 taraba State $3,397,790,217
30 Kebbi State $3,290,847,166
31 Nassarawa State $3,022,828,885
32 Jigawa State $2,988,014,405
33 Ekiti State $2,848,372,512
34 Ebonyi State $2,732,472,739
35 Gombe State $2,500,467,306
36 Yobe State $2,011,499,000


http://www.nigerianwatch.com/news/1420-diasporans-contribute-more-to-nigerias-gdp-than-34-of-its-36-states

How wise is it for this state to add such a recurrent expense to its miserly account?![/b]
Re: Osun Distributes Free Tablet-Computers To Students by mapet: 4:38pm On Mar 20, 2013
1. The quality of education is obviously not supposed to be determined by tablet and laptops, neither is the laboratories, teaching aid, field trips, etc. They are all aids to qaulity education so disparaging one at the expense of the other is really flawed
2. A student with Opon Imo is not necessarily better than those without...that is not the objective. Rather a student with Opon Imo, most likely has the knowledge exposure to his contemporaries in many developed countries, local flavour and aid to help his learning and better chance at passing WAEC, NECO and Jamb
3. Why are so jumpy to know the immediate impact of programs like this?? that in itself is wrong. These are plans that address long term education/learning gaps. Besides the value offering are multi-dimensional. It's probably not ony for University.......

gotta catch my bus...stay tuned
Okija_juju:

[b]Giant leap?! I laugh in french...

You may also not be informed that the quality of a persons education is not determined by Tablets and laptops or any other fancy gadget. The introduction of Tablets to minorsin schools is definitely a new concept, but does not immediately translate in 'BETTER QUALITY' education. You need Laboratories, teaching aids, field trips, visual aids, qualified teachers, qualified guidance counsellors, e.t.c.

You say 'many of these students would be influenced by this infrastructure', and I say hmmm.. Really?! How?! All that these tablets seem to be from all discription are simply digital textbooks. So its no more a motivation to a student than paper-textbooks.

The young student that passed microsoft exams didnt own an 'Opon Imo' or whatever its called. This device is not a solid replacement for textbooks and libraries. If those devices came with internet access, I would have backed off because it immediately puts the world at their finger tips, but if I should ask you now how a Student with 'Opan Imo' is better than a student with 'Paper-textbooks', what would you say?!

You even forgot to comment on the cost implication of spending 40 million Dollars (6.4 billion Naira) on these expensive toys that would depreciate faster than a pirated copy of Ababio Chemistry textbook and Nelkon physics textbook. Can Osun afford to add 2 - 3 billion Naira to their annual recurrent expenditure for Tablets?! Are they that wealthy?!

All I have stated can only be wrong to a one-track minded fellow. There is no questioning the fact that many recipients of those tablets have probably not slept a wink since they got it due to sheer excitement. But the fact that you read your 'New General Maths' textbook off of a Tablet does not mean you are gonna understand it better than the guy who read his off of a paper-textbook, hence the questions 'what is the standard of public school education in Osun State?'.

Ekiti State gave out 'Solar-Powered Samsung Laptops' to students a few years back, how is that programme today?!

How sustainable is this tablet programme and at what cost?!

How has the Osun State education system been adjusted to properly integrate this new technology?!

How durable are these tablets (especially as they would ba handled by kids)?!



If you cant see reasons in my questions, then there really is no pint to this discussion.. [/b]

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Re: Osun Distributes Free Tablet-Computers To Students by evanscjmac: 7:39pm On Mar 20, 2013
its computer the problem? please you guys should visit the schools to see how poor they are, no chairs and desk, student have to seat on the floor to write their exams or receive lecture. How effective is the laptops to the standard of the education in Osun state? i am currently serving there and i know what we are passing through. 90 percent of the public school are totally bad, were they have few teachers who have not or are yet to receive their salaries since January and you are sharing laptops. my school is a case study, since the beginning of this term, no English teacher, chemistry, physics, literature, mathematics. The govt of Osun state should have a rethink and help this students. i used to think that the northern part has the worst education not until i came to Osun. 60 percent of the student don't hear English even and you are sharing laptops. nonsense

Re: Osun Distributes Free Tablet-Computers To Students by Fhemmmy: 9:48pm On Mar 20, 2013
^^^ Thanks for shedding more light into situation of the schools in Oshun . . . More pix of more schools would be appreciated
Re: Osun Distributes Free Tablet-Computers To Students by Okijajuju1(m): 9:56pm On Mar 20, 2013
evanscjmac: its computer the problem? please you guys should visit the schools to see how poor they are, no chairs and desk, student have to seat on the floor to write their exams or receive lecture. How effective is the laptops to the standard of the education in Osun state? i am currently serving there and i know what we are passing through. 90 percent of the public school are totally bad, were they have few teachers who have not or are yet to receive their salaries since January and you are sharing laptops. my school is a case study, since the beginning of this term, no English teacher, chemistry, physics, literature, mathematics. The govt of Osun state should have a rethink and help this students. i used to think that the northern part has the worst education not until i came to Osun. 60 percent of the student don't hear English even and you are sharing laptops. nonsense


Thanks for sharing..

I hope to hear some reactions to your post. Looking at your pic, I don't believe that tablets are the immediate problems of these students.
Re: Osun Distributes Free Tablet-Computers To Students by emiye(m): 5:13am On Mar 21, 2013
evanscjmac: its computer the problem? please you guys should visit the schools to see how poor they are, no chairs and desk, student have to seat on the floor to write their exams or receive lecture. How effective is the laptops to the standard of the education in Osun state? i am currently serving there and i know what we are passing through. 90 percent of the public school are totally bad, were they have few teachers who have not or are yet to receive their salaries since January and you are sharing laptops. my school is a case study, since the beginning of this term, no English teacher, chemistry, physics, literature, mathematics. The govt of Osun state should have a rethink and help this students. i used to think that the northern part has the worst education not until i came to Osun. 60 percent of the student don't hear English even and you are sharing laptops. nonsense

You need to realise that the state govt. giving out this tablet is not a "magic bullet" to solve the educational problems in the state, that does not mean the state govt will henceforth fold its arms, and refuse to take steps to fix other rots in the educational system. I am certain the government realise and knows the level of rot in virtually all the Primary, secondary and tertiary institutions.

Many of you need to realise that the problems in the educational sector sometimes requires a form of "street smart" ideas in fixing the problems at least in part.

Even if we see the tablet simply as a textbook, which i am sure has more features, it is going to be effective.

One of the biggest problem of most students in schools is access to text books (at least 80% of them)

Please conduct a random sampling on the boldened and come back on this thread with the result.

If you fix that singular problem, you will be surprised with the improvement, you can get.

Infact, many of the so- called teachers in sec. schools, do they really teach in the true definition of teaching ? I have discovered many only come to class to dictate notes they have lifted straight from textbooks and claim to be teaching. grin

My personal experience as a student, when i was in senior sec. 1, my school designed the lecture timetable in a way , you can only take one of further maths or economics. I attended the further maths classes, while in ss2 i sat for a GCE exam in economics with the aid of textbook and past questions only, i had distinction (A3).

The problem is multidimensional, what is necessary is to implement optimal solutions, in the shortest of time.

i believe the tablet distribution is one of the optimal solutions
Re: Osun Distributes Free Tablet-Computers To Students by Meritbaba(m): 5:28am On Mar 21, 2013
Yes there are diplated classrooms in most schools in Oshogbo, no thanks to the former Papa Decieve Pikin(PDP) led Govt in the state, an example of the school which the Govt. will use to replace the diplated schools is in this thread..100 of it#No long thing# https://www.nairaland.com/1142493/newly-built-school-osogbo-capacity
Re: Osun Distributes Free Tablet-Computers To Students by henrysam(m): 8:51am On Mar 21, 2013
emmasege: knowing nigerian politicians for who they are, this is a subtle way of siphoning public funds in the name of qualitative education. imagine the number of tablets that will go round thousands of students in osun public schools, if it ever goes round. would the students return the tablets to their schools after passing out. Like someone rightly pointed out, why not use the funds to develop school libraries instead of embarking on this white elephant and unsustainable project?. ogbeni had better focus on projects that he can finish in less than a year, because we are voting him out come next year. A thousand thiefnubus can not impose a fanatic on us again.

My bros this is era of e learning. I just believe this will allow students in public school to be able to compete very well with their pairs in private schools where most of these things are available or through exposure from their parents. You can imagine some adult can not even use the computer well during the NIMC test because of lack of e knowledge even most of the post jamb exams is based on your use of computer learning systems.
Re: Osun Distributes Free Tablet-Computers To Students by henrysam(m): 9:11am On Mar 21, 2013
Okija_juju:

[b]Giant leap?! I laugh in french...

You may also not be informed that the quality of a persons education is not determined by Tablets and laptops or any other fancy gadget. The introduction of Tablets to minorsin schools is definitely a new concept, but does not immediately translate in 'BETTER QUALITY' education. You need Laboratories, teaching aids, field trips, visual aids, qualified teachers, qualified guidance counsellors, e.t.c.

You say 'many of these students would be influenced by this infrastructure', and I say hmmm.. Really?! How?! All that these tablets seem to be from all discription are simply digital textbooks. So its no more a motivation to a student than paper-textbooks.

The young student that passed microsoft exams didnt own an 'Opon Imo' or whatever its called. This device is not a solid replacement for textbooks and libraries. If those devices came with internet access, I would have backed off because it immediately puts the world at their finger tips, but if I should ask you now how a Student with 'Opan Imo' is better than a student with 'Paper-textbooks', what would you say?!

You even forgot to comment on the cost implication of spending 40 million Dollars (6.4 billion Naira) on these expensive toys that would depreciate faster than a pirated copy of Ababio Chemistry textbook and Nelkon physics textbook. Can Osun afford to add 2 - 3 billion Naira to their annual recurrent expenditure for Tablets?! Are they that wealthy?!

All I have stated can only be wrong to a one-track minded fellow. There is no questioning the fact that many recipients of those tablets have probably not slept a wink since they got it due to sheer excitement. But the fact that you read your 'New General Maths' textbook off of a Tablet does not mean you are gonna understand it better than the guy who read his off of a paper-textbook, hence the questions 'what is the standard of public school education in Osun State?'.

Ekiti State gave out 'Solar-Powered Samsung Laptops' to students a few years back, how is that programme today?!

How sustainable is this tablet programme and at what cost?!

How has the Osun State education system been adjusted to properly integrate this new technology?!

How durable are these tablets (especially as they would ba handled by kids)?!



If you cant see reasons in my questions, then there really is no pint to this discussion.. [/b]


The people of Osun state and the pupils that were given the tablets to saw this step as a way of enhancing their learning positively. I just wonder why your concern is so great to this extent. Pls bros kindly tell me the steps your governor is taking to improve education in public schools in your state?
Re: Osun Distributes Free Tablet-Computers To Students by mapet: 9:15am On Mar 21, 2013
Using "eason's systems analysis", it is clear that you are simply reasoning amiss
adim2: Using easton's system analysis, it is clear that this project was a top down approach project and there was no demand from the immediate population but rather a thought that took place at the black box/political system which just came out as an output
Re: Osun Distributes Free Tablet-Computers To Students by mapet: 9:27am On Mar 21, 2013
Fair enough, but I think you're overating the GPD concept. I undertook to quote some wikipedia clarification on GDP below

"Gross domestic product (GDP) is the market value of all officially recognized final goods and services produced within a country in a given period of time. GDP per capita is often considered an indicator of a country's standard of living;[2][3] GDP per capita is not a measure of personal income (See Standard of living and GDP). Under economic theory, GDP per capita exactly equals the gross domestic income (GDI) per capita (See Gross domestic income)"

My submissions are these;
1. Using GPD as a measure of the potential capacity of an entity does not give the full picture
2. Even if I'll take your GDP analysis (which I wont)GDP submissions are after the fact. So they are based on previous data
3. I was of the impression that the investment in education as currently done in Osun State will go a long way in enhancing the future GDP of the state.
Okija_juju:

Omo!! To answer you all these comments go hard.. but I will just tackle point number one for now..



How wise is it for this state to add such a recurrent expense to its miserly account?!
Re: Osun Distributes Free Tablet-Computers To Students by mapet: 9:34am On Mar 21, 2013
Bros,

Which one is your "informal" school
Emmzhy: Dat's my formal schoolDat's my formal schoolDat's my formal school
Re: Osun Distributes Free Tablet-Computers To Students by Okijajuju1(m): 10:18am On Mar 21, 2013
emiye:

You need to realise that the state govt. giving out this tablet is not a "magic bullet" to solve the educational problems in the state, that does not mean the state govt will henceforth fold its arms, and refuse to take steps to fix other rots in the educational system. I am certain the government realise and knows the level of rot in virtually all the Primary, secondary and tertiary institutions.

Many of you need to realise that the problems in the educational sector sometimes requires a form of "street smart" ideas in fixing the problems at least in part.

Even if we see the tablet simply as a textbook, which i am sure has more features, it is going to be effective.

One of the biggest problem of most students in schools is access to text books (at least 80% of them)

Please conduct a random sampling on the boldened and come back on this thread with the result.

If you fix that singular problem, you will be surprised with the improvement, you can get.

Infact, many of the so- called teachers in sec. schools, do they really teach in the true definition of teaching ? I have discovered many only come to class to dictate notes they have lifted straight from textbooks and claim to be teaching. grin

My personal experience as a student, when i was in senior sec. 1, my school designed the lecture timetable in a way , you can only take one of further maths or economics. I attended the further maths classes, while in ss2 i sat for a GCE exam in economics with the aid of textbook and past questions only, i had distinction (A3).

The problem is multidimensional, what is necessary is to implement optimal solutions, in the shortest of time.

i believe the tablet distribution is one of the optimal solutions







[b]You see, I just brushed through the previous posts on this threads and it seems the one great misconception here is that Tablets for Secondary school pupils are bad, and its not what myself and many others are trying to say..

I have been searching for the pictures of Public schools in Imo State that I took a while back as part of a research for a job that a colleague was trying to do in Imo State. What we saw there was an eyesore. Infact in the report we drafted and handed back, some of the schools were tagged #writeoffs. Moving on from Imo State to Cross River State. Any Corp member here that served in Cross River would be familiar with Obubra orientation Camp. There is a school in front of the camp as well, not even cows can be kept in side there a barn. The public schools (especially those in the rural areas) are in dire need of a total overhaul.

Lets take Rivers State which is currently holding the flame in Public school rehabilitation. I visited one of the schools that was rebuilt. It had everything from Proper boards to deaks, fully stocked & air conditioned libraries, playground, basketball court, well laid out tracks, swings, laboratory and a mini farm for agric projects. Then their computer labs would make many cybercafes look like rubbish as they all had their own Vsat systems. Then to add to it, the government also gave out free school uniforms and books to the pupils of these schools. Even I a grown ass man was stunned. The only problems he is currently facing is the verification of teachers which has been black-balled by the Teachers Union.

From the picture posted by Evanscjmac, its obvious that Osun has just put the cart before the horse. If you notice, the one question we have been asking is if Tablets are the immediate need of Osun public schools. The cost implication of such a project can also not be ignored especially as there are other more important fundamental & cost-effective projects that need to be done in these schools that have not been done. These Tablets are good, infact I am sure some students have not let theirs out of their sight since they received it. However, this is a case of doing the right thing at the wrong time.

Looking at it from the perspective of a student, this is the best thing the government has ever done for them in their lives. Atleast now they get to own a sophisticated gadget. I am very happy for them. [/b]
Re: Osun Distributes Free Tablet-Computers To Students by Okijajuju1(m): 10:21am On Mar 21, 2013
Meritbaba: Yes there are diplated classrooms in most schools in Oshogbo, no thanks to the former Papa Decieve Pikin(PDP) led Govt in the state, an example of the school which the Govt. will use to replace the diplated schools is in this thread..100 of it#No long thing# https://www.nairaland.com/1142493/newly-built-school-osogbo-capacity


Why are you so stuck on Oshogbo?!

Go into the hinterlands and see what their schools look like first before commenting. I just returned from Uyo last Sunday, When I post the pictures from Uyo, you will be stunned, but the villages I drove through prior to entering Uyo is a different story. #Focus.

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