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Re: Osun Distributes Free Tablet-Computers To Students by adim2(m): 12:15pm On Mar 20, 2013 |
Using easton's system analysis, it is clear that this project was a top down approach project and there was no demand from the immediate population but rather a thought that took place at the black box/political system which just came out as an output |
Re: Osun Distributes Free Tablet-Computers To Students by adexsimply(m): 12:17pm On Mar 20, 2013 |
Okija_juju:how could you believe sumthing posted with an outdated browser na? |
Re: Osun Distributes Free Tablet-Computers To Students by jummy05: 12:58pm On Mar 20, 2013 |
I give it to Ogbeni in terms of innovative programmes and policy. I wish other states' Govs can take a clue.This man is really trying.Despite the small amount of money the State of Osun gets as federal allocation,the state has the lowest unemployment rate in Nigeria (according to National Bureau of Statistics). More grease to your elbows
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Re: Osun Distributes Free Tablet-Computers To Students by jummy05: 1:06pm On Mar 20, 2013 |
Okija_juju: OKIJA-JUJU I doubt whether you have been to Osun State. Osun state has one of the best power supply in Nigeria because of the presence of National grid there.I have been opportuned to be in many rural areas in Osun state.Most of the rural areas in Osun state enjoy stable power supply. |
Re: Osun Distributes Free Tablet-Computers To Students by Fhemmmy: 1:35pm On Mar 20, 2013 |
rman: That was meant for the joke section, and after a year usage of the tablet, tell me how much life will be left in them, with the trend at which technology is changing? I will bet you anything if 500 tablets were given out, due to wear and tear and malfunctioning, at the end of the year, at least 50% will be gone or dead and 50% of the remain will be acting up, while some will be lose or sold off and the rest will be with replaced part . . I am not sure if i have missed something, but what is the specs and cost of the "Tablet" |
Re: Osun Distributes Free Tablet-Computers To Students by Fhemmmy: 1:36pm On Mar 20, 2013 |
jummy05: Are you speaking from your experience or what they said . . . I will like to hear from someone that resides in Oshun state and not just oshogbo oh, Oshun state. |
Re: Osun Distributes Free Tablet-Computers To Students by Fhemmmy: 1:38pm On Mar 20, 2013 |
Saladin1: For your information the same religion u blasted above was the religion of the majority in the state of Osun and the entire SW, even the gov is an adherent therefore u should know that the civilisation hating folks are the problem not the religion. I am in support of all religion oh, cos we all could co-exist, but where did you get your stats from, that majority of Oshun people are Muslims |
Re: Osun Distributes Free Tablet-Computers To Students by Fhemmmy: 1:39pm On Mar 20, 2013 |
adim2: I tried accessing the opon imo website for valuable information on the project, but i was stuck with one link. Please guys do something about the website. Now back to the issue at hand, Opon Imo does give an edge to a student who uses it to a student reading from a hard print. For us to argue that it will better their lives, i really don't dispute that. But let's consider the number of intelligent, semi intelligent and less intelligent students that will benefit from it. If the gadget has a bluetooth device. Woah enough opportunity for x-rated films. This will surely defeat the aim of the project. like many people have suggested the money he used in acquiring these gadgets should have been used in equipping many schools. Come to think of it, this gadget has lots of immediate disadvantages than advantages. I understand that every government wants to do something different from other and he has achieved that because no government has done dis before. Kudos There are ways to block all those. |
Re: Osun Distributes Free Tablet-Computers To Students by mapet: 3:58pm On Mar 20, 2013 |
1. I am appalled at the way you guys just reason carelessly 2. Your question on how they are going to charge the tablet with no constant electricity is even dumber. How have we been charging cell phones, yet we have over 100million registerd lines in Nigeria 3. You should have known that, secondary school students are not to "learn how to use e-tablets", but to put e-tablet to good use to enhance their learning. At this point, I'm tempted to doubt if you even know what e-tablet is and what use it serves 4. If quantifying the benefit of this project is rocket science to you, then by all means confess. It is unbelievable at the rate some of you guys just display crass ignorance. This is one of the strategies renowned bodies, UN, UNESCO etc are deloying to balance the learning gaps in 3rd world countries. In places like Kenya, for example this model have been trialed and was successful. It would have been better you do a research rather than this display that serves no value to the collective good. 5. How do you measure the success? well subsequent average performance of the kids in WAEC, NECO for starters, number of students from Osun that gain admission in to Unis, Polys, Technical Schools etc, Number of Osun Students that can self start in business, Innovation indexes of Osun students etc then you can trace it to ability of Osun students to assemble and maintain the e-tablets etc. Has the coming of computers revolutionalize the way we do things in Nigeria?.....then go figure the rest...... courage89: I think this is not only a bad idea, but wastage of public funds. How are these people to charge tablets when there is no constant electricity? What benefit/benefits are they to gain by learning how to use e-tablets, that will be useful to them in real life? How much are they expensing on these elephant projects? How do you quantify the benefits of these projects and how do you measure its success? 1 Like |
Re: Osun Distributes Free Tablet-Computers To Students by mapet: 4:03pm On Mar 20, 2013 |
1. For starters, your question in bold is way off point and of little value. Why are you lots trying to paint Osun as if we have no electricity? You have never set foot on any Osun soil and you're simply regurgitating the rubbish perpertrated on NL 2. Except you show us where the government said e-tablet is a substitute to public libraries, then it's also way off as well Akiika: My guess is that the e-learning stuffs must have been pre-downloaded into the tablet before handing it over to the students. Well, not a bad idea but will the student get generators to charge the tablet when the battery is running low in power? I think equipping public and school libraries with computers may be more effective, but where are the libraries? Anyway, it's a good gesture...at least the Governor is not dashing another rich artiste Prado for wedding like the Akwa Ibom scumbag Gov. did. |
Re: Osun Distributes Free Tablet-Computers To Students by mapet: 4:04pm On Mar 20, 2013 |
mee too Abiri.segun: |
Re: Osun Distributes Free Tablet-Computers To Students by mapet: 4:05pm On Mar 20, 2013 |
1. All the tertiary institutions you're a liar 2. It is worrying the way you're reasoning......for a student in tetiary institution demainman: Hmmm, Ogbeni is not trying at all, all state tertiary institution in osun r on strike instead of addressing d issue, ogbeni is busy doing somtin else. He has lost his priority as mr gov. We've sitting at home for d past 2wks now. He is now using d so call opon ifa to campaign against 2014. |
Re: Osun Distributes Free Tablet-Computers To Students by mapet: 4:08pm On Mar 20, 2013 |
1. Ignorance on your part 2. Osun state government has put about 2yrs into planning this.... bams01: @ all saying this is a good move, kudos, bla bla..... |
Re: Osun Distributes Free Tablet-Computers To Students by mapet: 4:11pm On Mar 20, 2013 |
@ Ibidapo 1. You seemingly don't know what the e-tablet is about....how can you build computer halls (whatever that is...) and equip with e-tablet Ibidapson: A computer halls sud have bn built across dis schools and be equipped wt d so called OPON IMO. This gadget ll be misused as av already xperienced in Ekiti state where porn movies are found on it |
Re: Osun Distributes Free Tablet-Computers To Students by mapet: 4:30pm On Mar 20, 2013 |
@ Okija_juju, You have made some needless assertions, baseless points, raised unnecessary fear and put things in wrong perspectives 1. If Osun has added 10million Us dollars in recurrent expenditure to better the lot of their children, clearing evident in a initiative to enhance their learning at no cost, how is that a bad thing 2. It is even not a worry if Osun State spend the money year in year out. first off, this is the only year they'll make huge capital investment in procuring the device, as they have to give 3 sss clases in one full swoop. subsequent years (depending on how long they intend it to last) they'll only have to bother about the entries alone. Now if a state has boldly committed to do that, the question of "if the state is wealthy" is misplaced. Not all state are rent seeking. Not all state depends only on the FG allocation alone. If after 2yrs of planning, that was spunned out of 3day education summit, that produced a 7-10man committee of accomplished men and women, who thought through and made recommendations on the education strategy for Osun State, then your fears are seemingly 2years late. It is unfortunate that many of you did not following the history of the Opon Imo and only raising doubts that has been cleared 2years ago 4. The Tablets are not meant to last forever. They probably have 3-year life span. In the strategy, there is provision of transfer of knowlege for quick repairs and simple maintenance, which in most cases will be done by indegenes of Osun. Some of the OYES graduands have been trained on repairs works. You ask some ridiculous questions. The e-tablet will break, will damage in some cases, but these are part of the costs of ownership, which has been factored. SSS students are not kids. These are people that have flooded cyber cafes all over the countries, these are people that operate PCs even better than many of us. These are people that have used cell phones and ipads either in secret or openly........ If any of the recipients misplaces or damages his/her tablet, then if he/she desires, foot the bill for replacement. But will these projected isolated events outweigh the proposed value? 5. Electricity to charge them is a non-issue. Most of Osun students are rural dwellers OMG this is the height of crude ignorance and arrogant display of illogic... 6. It is even sillier to alledge it was not well thought through when obviously it's your laziness to find out what was actually done in terms of conception and planning that is now being executed 3. Okija_juju: [b]Chai!! Nigerians are in deep trouble... 1 Like |
Re: Osun Distributes Free Tablet-Computers To Students by mapet: 4:32pm On Mar 20, 2013 |
1. What is "basic laptop"? 2. The concept was not to improve programming or "Solid or liquid" IT skills, but to enhance learning. so your supposition is realy defected and wrong on arrival mrjingles: Good plan but...How about buying basic laptops with the money, install a solid internet backbone and fund a serious curriculum on software programming and other solid IT skills? The students would gain much more from that. |
Re: Osun Distributes Free Tablet-Computers To Students by Okijajuju1(m): 4:37pm On Mar 20, 2013 |
mapet: @ Okija_juju, [b]Omo!! To answer you all these comments go hard.. but I will just tackle point number one for now.. Βουκέφαλος: NIGERIAN diasporans contribute more to the nation's economy than 34 of the country's 36 states according to the findings of a recent World Bank report showing that a total of $21bn was remitted back home during the course of 2012. How wise is it for this state to add such a recurrent expense to its miserly account?![/b] |
Re: Osun Distributes Free Tablet-Computers To Students by Okijajuju1(m): 4:37pm On Mar 20, 2013 |
mapet: @ Okija_juju, [b]Omo!! To answer you all these comments go hard.. but I will just tackle point number one for now.. Βουκέφαλος: NIGERIAN diasporans contribute more to the nation's economy than 34 of the country's 36 states according to the findings of a recent World Bank report showing that a total of $21bn was remitted back home during the course of 2012. How wise is it for this state to add such a recurrent expense to its miserly account?![/b] |
Re: Osun Distributes Free Tablet-Computers To Students by mapet: 4:38pm On Mar 20, 2013 |
1. The quality of education is obviously not supposed to be determined by tablet and laptops, neither is the laboratories, teaching aid, field trips, etc. They are all aids to qaulity education so disparaging one at the expense of the other is really flawed 2. A student with Opon Imo is not necessarily better than those without...that is not the objective. Rather a student with Opon Imo, most likely has the knowledge exposure to his contemporaries in many developed countries, local flavour and aid to help his learning and better chance at passing WAEC, NECO and Jamb 3. Why are so jumpy to know the immediate impact of programs like this?? that in itself is wrong. These are plans that address long term education/learning gaps. Besides the value offering are multi-dimensional. It's probably not ony for University....... gotta catch my bus...stay tuned Okija_juju: 1 Like |
Re: Osun Distributes Free Tablet-Computers To Students by evanscjmac: 7:39pm On Mar 20, 2013 |
its computer the problem? please you guys should visit the schools to see how poor they are, no chairs and desk, student have to seat on the floor to write their exams or receive lecture. How effective is the laptops to the standard of the education in Osun state? i am currently serving there and i know what we are passing through. 90 percent of the public school are totally bad, were they have few teachers who have not or are yet to receive their salaries since January and you are sharing laptops. my school is a case study, since the beginning of this term, no English teacher, chemistry, physics, literature, mathematics. The govt of Osun state should have a rethink and help this students. i used to think that the northern part has the worst education not until i came to Osun. 60 percent of the student don't hear English even and you are sharing laptops. nonsense
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Re: Osun Distributes Free Tablet-Computers To Students by Fhemmmy: 9:48pm On Mar 20, 2013 |
^^^ Thanks for shedding more light into situation of the schools in Oshun . . . More pix of more schools would be appreciated |
Re: Osun Distributes Free Tablet-Computers To Students by Okijajuju1(m): 9:56pm On Mar 20, 2013 |
evanscjmac: its computer the problem? please you guys should visit the schools to see how poor they are, no chairs and desk, student have to seat on the floor to write their exams or receive lecture. How effective is the laptops to the standard of the education in Osun state? i am currently serving there and i know what we are passing through. 90 percent of the public school are totally bad, were they have few teachers who have not or are yet to receive their salaries since January and you are sharing laptops. my school is a case study, since the beginning of this term, no English teacher, chemistry, physics, literature, mathematics. The govt of Osun state should have a rethink and help this students. i used to think that the northern part has the worst education not until i came to Osun. 60 percent of the student don't hear English even and you are sharing laptops. nonsense Thanks for sharing.. I hope to hear some reactions to your post. Looking at your pic, I don't believe that tablets are the immediate problems of these students. |
Re: Osun Distributes Free Tablet-Computers To Students by emiye(m): 5:13am On Mar 21, 2013 |
evanscjmac: its computer the problem? please you guys should visit the schools to see how poor they are, no chairs and desk, student have to seat on the floor to write their exams or receive lecture. How effective is the laptops to the standard of the education in Osun state? i am currently serving there and i know what we are passing through. 90 percent of the public school are totally bad, were they have few teachers who have not or are yet to receive their salaries since January and you are sharing laptops. my school is a case study, since the beginning of this term, no English teacher, chemistry, physics, literature, mathematics. The govt of Osun state should have a rethink and help this students. i used to think that the northern part has the worst education not until i came to Osun. 60 percent of the student don't hear English even and you are sharing laptops. nonsense You need to realise that the state govt. giving out this tablet is not a "magic bullet" to solve the educational problems in the state, that does not mean the state govt will henceforth fold its arms, and refuse to take steps to fix other rots in the educational system. I am certain the government realise and knows the level of rot in virtually all the Primary, secondary and tertiary institutions. Many of you need to realise that the problems in the educational sector sometimes requires a form of "street smart" ideas in fixing the problems at least in part. Even if we see the tablet simply as a textbook, which i am sure has more features, it is going to be effective. One of the biggest problem of most students in schools is access to text books (at least 80% of them) Please conduct a random sampling on the boldened and come back on this thread with the result. If you fix that singular problem, you will be surprised with the improvement, you can get. Infact, many of the so- called teachers in sec. schools, do they really teach in the true definition of teaching ? I have discovered many only come to class to dictate notes they have lifted straight from textbooks and claim to be teaching. My personal experience as a student, when i was in senior sec. 1, my school designed the lecture timetable in a way , you can only take one of further maths or economics. I attended the further maths classes, while in ss2 i sat for a GCE exam in economics with the aid of textbook and past questions only, i had distinction (A3). The problem is multidimensional, what is necessary is to implement optimal solutions, in the shortest of time. i believe the tablet distribution is one of the optimal solutions |
Re: Osun Distributes Free Tablet-Computers To Students by Meritbaba(m): 5:28am On Mar 21, 2013 |
Yes there are diplated classrooms in most schools in Oshogbo, no thanks to the former Papa Decieve Pikin(PDP) led Govt in the state, an example of the school which the Govt. will use to replace the diplated schools is in this thread..100 of it#No long thing# https://www.nairaland.com/1142493/newly-built-school-osogbo-capacity |
Re: Osun Distributes Free Tablet-Computers To Students by henrysam(m): 8:51am On Mar 21, 2013 |
emmasege: knowing nigerian politicians for who they are, this is a subtle way of siphoning public funds in the name of qualitative education. imagine the number of tablets that will go round thousands of students in osun public schools, if it ever goes round. would the students return the tablets to their schools after passing out. Like someone rightly pointed out, why not use the funds to develop school libraries instead of embarking on this white elephant and unsustainable project?. ogbeni had better focus on projects that he can finish in less than a year, because we are voting him out come next year. A thousand thiefnubus can not impose a fanatic on us again. My bros this is era of e learning. I just believe this will allow students in public school to be able to compete very well with their pairs in private schools where most of these things are available or through exposure from their parents. You can imagine some adult can not even use the computer well during the NIMC test because of lack of e knowledge even most of the post jamb exams is based on your use of computer learning systems. |
Re: Osun Distributes Free Tablet-Computers To Students by henrysam(m): 9:11am On Mar 21, 2013 |
Okija_juju: The people of Osun state and the pupils that were given the tablets to saw this step as a way of enhancing their learning positively. I just wonder why your concern is so great to this extent. Pls bros kindly tell me the steps your governor is taking to improve education in public schools in your state? |
Re: Osun Distributes Free Tablet-Computers To Students by mapet: 9:15am On Mar 21, 2013 |
Using "eason's systems analysis", it is clear that you are simply reasoning amiss adim2: Using easton's system analysis, it is clear that this project was a top down approach project and there was no demand from the immediate population but rather a thought that took place at the black box/political system which just came out as an output |
Re: Osun Distributes Free Tablet-Computers To Students by mapet: 9:27am On Mar 21, 2013 |
Fair enough, but I think you're overating the GPD concept. I undertook to quote some wikipedia clarification on GDP below "Gross domestic product (GDP) is the market value of all officially recognized final goods and services produced within a country in a given period of time. GDP per capita is often considered an indicator of a country's standard of living;[2][3] GDP per capita is not a measure of personal income (See Standard of living and GDP). Under economic theory, GDP per capita exactly equals the gross domestic income (GDI) per capita (See Gross domestic income)" My submissions are these; 1. Using GPD as a measure of the potential capacity of an entity does not give the full picture 2. Even if I'll take your GDP analysis (which I wont)GDP submissions are after the fact. So they are based on previous data 3. I was of the impression that the investment in education as currently done in Osun State will go a long way in enhancing the future GDP of the state. Okija_juju: |
Re: Osun Distributes Free Tablet-Computers To Students by mapet: 9:34am On Mar 21, 2013 |
Bros, Which one is your "informal" school Emmzhy: Dat's my formal schoolDat's my formal schoolDat's my formal school |
Re: Osun Distributes Free Tablet-Computers To Students by Okijajuju1(m): 10:18am On Mar 21, 2013 |
emiye: [b]You see, I just brushed through the previous posts on this threads and it seems the one great misconception here is that Tablets for Secondary school pupils are bad, and its not what myself and many others are trying to say.. I have been searching for the pictures of Public schools in Imo State that I took a while back as part of a research for a job that a colleague was trying to do in Imo State. What we saw there was an eyesore. Infact in the report we drafted and handed back, some of the schools were tagged #writeoffs. Moving on from Imo State to Cross River State. Any Corp member here that served in Cross River would be familiar with Obubra orientation Camp. There is a school in front of the camp as well, not even cows can be kept in side there a barn. The public schools (especially those in the rural areas) are in dire need of a total overhaul. Lets take Rivers State which is currently holding the flame in Public school rehabilitation. I visited one of the schools that was rebuilt. It had everything from Proper boards to deaks, fully stocked & air conditioned libraries, playground, basketball court, well laid out tracks, swings, laboratory and a mini farm for agric projects. Then their computer labs would make many cybercafes look like rubbish as they all had their own Vsat systems. Then to add to it, the government also gave out free school uniforms and books to the pupils of these schools. Even I a grown ass man was stunned. The only problems he is currently facing is the verification of teachers which has been black-balled by the Teachers Union. From the picture posted by Evanscjmac, its obvious that Osun has just put the cart before the horse. If you notice, the one question we have been asking is if Tablets are the immediate need of Osun public schools. The cost implication of such a project can also not be ignored especially as there are other more important fundamental & cost-effective projects that need to be done in these schools that have not been done. These Tablets are good, infact I am sure some students have not let theirs out of their sight since they received it. However, this is a case of doing the right thing at the wrong time. Looking at it from the perspective of a student, this is the best thing the government has ever done for them in their lives. Atleast now they get to own a sophisticated gadget. I am very happy for them. [/b] |
Re: Osun Distributes Free Tablet-Computers To Students by Okijajuju1(m): 10:21am On Mar 21, 2013 |
Meritbaba: Yes there are diplated classrooms in most schools in Oshogbo, no thanks to the former Papa Decieve Pikin(PDP) led Govt in the state, an example of the school which the Govt. will use to replace the diplated schools is in this thread..100 of it#No long thing# https://www.nairaland.com/1142493/newly-built-school-osogbo-capacity Why are you so stuck on Oshogbo?! Go into the hinterlands and see what their schools look like first before commenting. I just returned from Uyo last Sunday, When I post the pictures from Uyo, you will be stunned, but the villages I drove through prior to entering Uyo is a different story. #Focus. |
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