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Re: Did Chinua Achebe Actually Do Anything To Promote Development In Nigeria? by ogathetop3: 3:35am On Mar 24, 2013
I read Things fall apart as a child. I also read one of Achebe's letters rejecting a national honors award.Don't really know a lot more about him, but I remeber his specific reference to his home state in his letter and his overall sentiment did not betray a belief in this entity called Nigeria.He may not have been a patriot on a national scale but his political convictions aside, we cannot deny the fact that his literary exploits made Africa and more remotely, Nigeria proud. Though he may prefer to be remembered as a Biafran Hero, he will go down in history as one of Afica's greatest writers and we are proud he is a
Nigerian. Finally brethren (as the Apostle Paul would say),' whether out of jealousy or sincerity, the gospel is preached and for this we should be glad'. May his soul rest in peace.

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Re: Did Chinua Achebe Actually Do Anything To Promote Development In Nigeria? by Nobody: 4:00am On Mar 24, 2013
dayokanu: The only thing Ashebe promoted in Nigeria was tribalism.

He died a bitter man. He was bitter against everything in life. Bitter against Yoruba, against Awolowo, Against Nobel committee, against Nigeria

His bitterness obviously killed him.

It would have been better if Ashebe died a year ago than now when all his legacy are now tainted with trialism

He would be remembered for being a Bigot

Thats why Soyinka excelled over him anyday

Soyinka, A Yoruba man supported and was jailed for Biafra

Soyinka a Yoruba man supported and was the spokesman for the niger Delta

Soyinka was way ahead of Ashebe in all walks of life
[b]You are one dead soul i dislike on NL.May tribalism not lead you to your down fall the way you are going.Was Awolowo not a cun and drop dead tribalist?Awolowo being the Minister of Finance after the civil war what did he do to the people from the East?What happened to all their money in the bank and what is with the whole devaluation of the Biafran currency by the useless stinking mouth Yoruba man who Ojukwu pleaded for while he was languishing in jail and later turned back to betray him?That largely explain why most people from Eastern part of the country due to his devaluation of their currency couldn't afford most shares from the companies that were indigenized by the Government of Gowon and this gave room to the westerners to purchase all the shares which majority of them are still benefiting today.Or you think we will forget in a hurry how he made use of public funds to finance his party AG?Sometimes i find his immortalisation by the Government insulting to the Nigerian people though most of it were during the Military era and it can never happen in a well cordinated democratic dispensation.Little wonder all his children and followers are trailing the same part which he took.[/b]
For further knowledge of the true Nigerian Political history

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BPEd8xujG4Y&list=WLLb1ntrPAyzbMfOTn_gmdqgQU6Ooz5rgM

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Re: Did Chinua Achebe Actually Do Anything To Promote Development In Nigeria? by Ojiofor: 4:03am On Mar 24, 2013
The whole world is mourning Achebe, who cares about what umu awolowo think of him.Once again we thank him for giving us his latest book [b]'There was a country' [/b]before joining his ancestors.

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Re: Did Chinua Achebe Actually Do Anything To Promote Development In Nigeria? by Nobody: 4:04am On Mar 24, 2013
Umu Awolowo doing what they do best
She.male rascals

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Re: Did Chinua Achebe Actually Do Anything To Promote Development In Nigeria? by Nobody: 4:05am On Mar 24, 2013
@ manny4life

Seriously, you didn't address anything with that your long statement. It is all based on your thoughts, the very idea if that seem to work in reality is another thing to address. When we factor in many things which are inimical to the having a new nation we will start seeing the burden.

Regarding the population thing, you said it will speed up economic development,"enough population to jump start SE economy". That is what I was talking about in that particular paragraph not who brought up the population argument that matters in this regard.

Using Lagos to make comparison as if the chaotic nature of the city is not enough(which I think the population is over-estimated at 20 million) speaks of something terribly miscalculated. An additional 20 million population to a new nation with millions already on ground is lack of proper logistical plan and it is not as easy as you might think. The problem that will come with it will push the population to take some drastic actions which might be disturbing to the new nation.

The truth is that you are overly seeing the land from a squeezed yet sizeable condition than from a habitable one. The Eastern region land size is as follows:

1. Enugu State 7,161
2. Abia State 6,320
3. Ebonyi State 5,670
4. Imo state 5,100
5. Anabra State 4,844

Total land size 29,095 km^2

The 5 major Igbo people land altogether is not as large as Plateau State which 30,913 km^2. And, additional 20 millions to the population density of many Eastern states as bad as that of Lagos is a problem. The Population of those 5 major Igbo states is approximately 39.3 million and plus additional 20 million making it a total of 59.3 million which will spell population explosion for that region.

You failed to see where I went further to talk about having a market for the goods you might produced at the end. By having those industry because local consumption alone can not sustain the economy is not going to contribute much at the onset when the economy is not development and nation not industrialized. That again is another consequential factor to consider. Arable land is not such much available in the SE and the land is usually red earth often times eroded. So, to feed the massive population will be an enormous task. We might likely see one of the worst inflation in Africa in that nation if not carefully managed.

The water ways are usually controlled by other neighbouring States which might have their own nation. That been said, they might want to make a fortune from those ports entering into those water ways by applying border taxes,etc.

South Sudan trades on commodity the world needs, oil. The shoes you used as an example are not fully and resourcefully Igbo's. The raw materials needed for the production are sourced from other parts. Then we will now see how competitive they will be with China. Indeed, I doubt Ghana and Cameroon would be so keen on buying them without considering the high cost of transportation, quality and other overhead cost the neighbouring nation would like to add to your products at that particular point in time. So, it is not going to be a smooth sail as you are making it to look.

As I said earlier, people have to come together and agree on a period of time for the breakup so that hard conditions can be anticipated. Just going about the breakup without forestalled plans is going to be devastating than having just freedom for freedom sake.

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Re: Did Chinua Achebe Actually Do Anything To Promote Development In Nigeria? by Nobody: 4:49am On Mar 24, 2013
bolaino: I know I'm going to get lots of insults thrown on my person after creating this topic, but to me the truth is better, I'm not a tribalist or an ethnic bigot, on the other hand I'm a proud Nigerian, one who believes that there is still hope for our great nation, I grew up reading literary works of chinua achebe, and I enjoyed his master piece (things fall apart) so much that I always re enacted this story whenever I was bored while growing up, the author of the book seemed bigger than life to me then, but growing up I discovered one thing about this man, he was a sadist, a pessimist, and a bad critic, .

Let me answer you while assuming you truly and sincerely want to be educated .
It is amazing that anyone criticizing the cesspit called Nigeria will be labelled a bad critic when it suits you and a progressive when you feel like it .
Who is a bad critic if I must ask?
A man who critiqued years of military rule in his nation?
A man who criticized a culture of corruption and nepotism?
Do you realize men have been jailed in Nigeria for critiquing the stench that oozes out of Nigeria.A notable one is Wole Soyinka

Is he also a bad critic?
Shouldn't every good man in Nigeria criticize what your country has become..The Whole world knows you for nothing else but corruption and all things bad and now terrorism and you have the effrontery to castigate one of the few people of Nigerian descent we can be proud of,who has put us on the world map.

A man who has not stolen from your treasury but done nothing but good works
What a joke you are
I guess when all your heroes are treasury looters ,their critics must be evil people.


he never saw the country Nigeria amounting to anything, he was always quick to condemn from the high pedestal which the "white man" put him, no doubt he has made Nigeria proud in the aspect of literature, but what has he done to help build this country? This is a man who spent half his life abroad pointing out problems of this country, but never offering sound possible solutions to these problems,

You would have had a point if someone critiqued your soured agidi of a country and was proven wrong
The late Gani fawehinmi criticized Nigeria till his death and Nigeria is worse than when he started.
What is there to celebrate in Nigeria?,the same mediocrity
I am glad you at least acknowledge that he has made Nigeria proud
That is one truth you have told here so far
Have you read all Achebe's write ups ?
Is your country a load of poop because solutions were not offered or because your thieving leaders are after nothing but the treasury.
Are the problems of Nigeria present because no one gave solutions .
Is it Chinua's solutions that would build and equip your hospitals and schools
Would it build your roads ,provide you with jobs and arrest Boko haram,armed robbers and kidnappers.
Did your presidents tell you their inability to act is because they lack knowledge of what to do

What a joke you really are.

this man hated his father land so much that he refused a national award twice, I believe that his refusal to accept the national awards stemmed from his hatred of his fatherland, not solely cos he felt the governments had failed the people, this man was not a man of the people as most people are claiming, rather he was a man against the people, he was a doomsday individual, he was hoping for the collapse of this our great country, he hated the market woman, the taxi driver and even the lawyer,

Let me assume part of your problem is ignorance and educate you instead.
Chinua Achebe was offered a total of 4 honors from Nigeria
The very first was a literary honor,the first of it's kind in Nigeria,he graciously accepted that in the 70's
There was a second one in the 80s which he also accepted and according to him,he believed in Nigeria and hoped for change
In 2004 he was offered an honor by OBJoke and he turned the garbage down
The 4th in 2011 by GEJ which he also turned down

That is an honorable man,a rarity in the cesspit you call a country and you are foolish for not acknowledging that
Only an honorable man would refuse a gift from the same men robbing his people blind and taking food unashamedly from the mouth of babies.
Nigeria needs more men like him
Men who would tell our thieving leaders to take their wretched honors and shove it deep
men who would refuse to be tainted by corruption

I knew someday that honor would be scarce in Nigeria
I happen to remember a time when bribery and corruption were regarded as ills
Obviously that time is far gone so you must know nothing about standing for justice and what's right
I weep for Nigeria
It is truly a sad day



he saw Nigerians as a people who could never change for the better, chinua achebe made us proud with his literary works, but aside from that he did not contribute enough for the over all development of this country, we've heard of great doctors who left the western world to come and practice in bush Africa, these men are the kind of people we should look up to, let me not say more, but I believe I have made my views know

And your views are totally flawed out of sheer ignorance or shall I say stupidity
Tell this tale above to the thousands of students who read his books and were educated by it
The thousands who sat in his classrooms both in Nigeria and abroad.
Tell this to young writers of all races and creed who credit him as their mentors

Take a peek at the tributes pouring in from all over the world
You must not know what true greatness entails
Did you expect Chinua to build your roads,your schools,supply you with pipe borne water and electricity and build your industries

Did he hold any elected posts?
That is what your elected officials are supposed to do for you,you are visiting your frustrations on an innocent man
He was a writer,an artist
That was his profession and he served excellently well in that field with millions of students who have read him and millions more who will
The first African author to have his book as a required text in the United States
The only African author who has sold 12 million books and translated in over 30 languages
You don't earn a title from the world as the father of Modern African literature by drinking garri
He didn't call himself that

People recognized him ,his influence,his literary contributions and gave him that title
It is no mean feat.
There are only two men in Nigeria that have international acclaim recognizable anywhere in the world
One of them died a few days ago and the other has paid him a befitting tribute.

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Re: Did Chinua Achebe Actually Do Anything To Promote Development In Nigeria? by Soso990240(m): 5:03am On Mar 24, 2013
ekwah:

wow you don't get the point do you? What is Yourba? What is Igbo? What's Hausa? What's Igala?

Each is just a name representing a cultural group, with individuals who have VERY different qualities/ways of doing things.

The stupidity of the posts made here are a function of the author's qualities and NOT his/her tribe! shikena!

I only highlighted some of the foolish statements one of my friends made in the past as an example of how stupid people can be! I am not an ethnic bigot= God forbid. angry Focus on the main point I am trying to make and not on the least important things like the examples that I chose to highlight; whether it was made by an Igbo or Yoruba is NOT of any importance to me.
dn go and sort ur ish.wit ur friends..
Re: Did Chinua Achebe Actually Do Anything To Promote Development In Nigeria? by Soso990240(m): 5:24am On Mar 24, 2013
Pangea: How can you say, one tribe is superior to another?
I always wonder why madness fills people's heart!
What is the difference between that assertion and the one of, white being superior to an African for example.
For your information, we all are equal!
Just as we have the fools among the igbos, so also the yorubas, we also have the intellectuals in the midst of the two.
So, any one advocating the case for tribal supremacy is inherently wicked, evil, satanic and mad! angry
na so..and anybdy hatin Achebe becaus he wrote wot he experienced is a fool,stupid,evil,mad,stupit,coward,afraid of d truth,useless,and e no go beta 4 da person..R.I.P african hero.

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Re: Did Chinua Achebe Actually Do Anything To Promote Development In Nigeria? by aryzgreat: 8:33am On Mar 24, 2013
I took the time, strained my eyes, endured the vitriolic attack, enjoyed the defence as i read every comment on this thread b4 mine.

It is pertinent to state it in BLACK and white dat am not suprised at the attack coming from the yorubas. Tribalism is enshrined in them and i have no apology for this. Awolowo is a case study! He invented tribalism into d polity.

@ OP and all the yoruba air heads in this thread i will answer ur questions with Late Prof Chinualumogu Achebe's quotes

1. You asked wot Achebe did to promote development in Nigeria?

My Answer: Look for the meaning of development, unless u mean infrastructural development at which i will answer u that Achebe was not a president nor a govnor

Achebe answers u: "The wisdom of the native doctor is in his tattered cap." Chinua Achebe.
"We sometimes stand in the compound of a coward to point at the ruins of a great man's house" Chinua Achebe
"The leader of a Mob is lion to his enemies,a tiger to his gang,a wolf to the people on the street and a Dove in the presence of his Mother" Chinua Achebe


2. You called him a bigot and insunate dat he tried to trigger anoda war bc he wrote "there was a country"
My Answer: If Achebe was a bigot, then yorubas made him a bigot. He schooled in yorubaland university of Ibadan, he was a lagos boy, he had a yoruba Soyinka as best friend, he gave out a daughter to a yoruba man, but a yoruba man Awolowo tried to exterminate his ppl tru starvation and post war policy and achebe decided to recount his war experience only for tribal f00ls to read tribalism into his war history yet we have yoruba authors who never experienced the war write some biased Biafra war story as if they were in war front without much raising of dust by the victims of the war.

Achebe's Answer: [b]"If you don't like someone's story, you write your own." #Chinua Achebe

“We cannot trample upon the humanity of others without devaluing our own. The Igbo put it concretely in their proverb "Onye ji onye n'ani ji onwe ya: He who will hold another down in the mud must stay in the mud to keep him down.” - Chinua Achebe
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“It is the story that saves our progeny from blundering like blind beggars into the spikes of the cactus fence. The story is our escort; without it, we are blind." “Only the story can continue beyond the war and the warrior,” - Chinua Achebe’s “Anthills of the Savannah." (1987)

"Until the lions have their own historians, the history of the hunt will always glorify the hunter" chinua achebe


"A people who do not know where the rain beat them, would never know where their bodies would get dried".~ Chinua Achebe

"what do i do when a man defeacates in my obi? Do i sit down and look at him? No,i take a stick and break his head. That is what a man does"
"......this meeting is for men" - chinua Achebe,Things fall Apart

"People say that if you find water rising up to your ankle, that's the time to do something about it, not when it's around your neck". Chinua Achebe.

"Let the kite perch and let the eagle perch too - If one says no to the other, let his wing break." Chinua Achebe

"Eneke the bird says that since men have learnt to shoot without missing, he has learnt to fly without perching."[/b]

"It is the fear of offene that makes men swallow poison." Chinua Achebe[/b]

3. You labelled him an ingrate for rejecting national award 2 times and for attacking bad govt policies and abandoning his country

My Answer: Let put the fact right, Achebe rejected the award bc he was an honest man, he did not reject the awards bc he did no believe in Nigeria, after all he received several national awards from Nigeria when things were moving fine. How do u expect him to rxv award from OBJ who like Achebe wrote in things fall apart and i quote "Now he has won our brothers, and our clan can no longer act like one. He has a put a knife on the things that held us together and we have fallen apart" Obj used d UBAS to desecrate Anambra home state of Achebe, and he wrote OBJ to stop interfering and causing havoc in his state yet Obj did not deem it ryt to change. Achebe chose to stay in USA bc of his paralysis resulting from an Accident while in Nigeria, d bad road dat caused him d accident was due to the corruption which he fought with his book, "The problem with Nigeria" and yet a dumbhead is asking wot he did for Nigeria?

Achebe Answers: [b]"I have watched particularly the chaos in my own state of Anambra where a small clique of renegades, openly boasting its connections in high places, seems determined to turn my homeland into a bankrupt and lawless fiefdom. I am appalled by the brazenness of this clique and the silence, if not connivance, of the Presidency," Chinua Achebe

"The point of my observations should be quite clear by now, that ('Heart of Darkness' author Joseph) Conrad was a bloody racist. That this simple truth is glossed over in criticism of his work is due to the fact white racism against Africa is such a normal way of thinking that its manifestations go completely undetected." - from "An Image of Africa." Chinua Achebe


"Whenever you see a toad jumping in broad daylight, then know that something is after its life." Chinua Achebe

"When an adult is in the house, the she-goat is not left to suffer the pains of parturition on its tether." Chinua Achebe


"When a mad man walks Unclad, it is his kinsmen who feel shame, not himself." Chinua Achebe

"A man who does not lick his lips, can he blame the harmattan for drying them ? " Chinua Achebe

"When brothers fight to death a stranger inherits their father's estate." Chinua Achebe

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I will like the yoruba bigots that has been trying to paint Prof Achebe bad because he spoke the truth about AWOLOWO in his book " There was a country" ryt from when they created a thread for Nairaland hall of shame and disgustingly tried to induct Achebe into b4 Seun intervened, to this useless thread dat was created to ridicule a man the WORLD is celebrating his achievements to have a re-think and purge themselves of awolowo induced tribal tendencies or drink otapiapia and allow us celebrate with the 6billion people, the passing of a literary IROKO of our time.

Adieu Prof Achebe, the voice of the minority can not outshine that of the majority. Vox populi, vox Dei. Requiescat in pace. Amen!


"An old woman is always uneasy when dry bones are mentioned in a proverb." Chinua Achebe

i translate, Bigots, killers, Starvation inventors, post war 20 pounds policy initiators, igbo haters, are always uneasy when Biafra war Crimes are mentioned.

Happy palm sunday

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Re: Did Chinua Achebe Actually Do Anything To Promote Development In Nigeria? by manny4life(m): 8:35am On Mar 24, 2013
all4naija: @ manny4life

Seriously, you didn't address anything with that your long statement. It is all based on your thoughts, the very idea if that seem to work in reality is another thing to address. When we factor in many things which are inimical to the having a new nation we will start seeing the burden.

Regarding the population thing, you said it will speed up economic development,"enough population to jump start SE economy". That is what I was talking about in that particular paragraph not who brought up the population argument that matters in this regard.

Using Lagos to make comparison as if the chaotic nature of the city is not enough(which I think the population is over-estimated at 20 million) speaks of something terribly miscalculated. An additional 20 million population to a new nation with millions already on ground is lack of proper logistical plan and it is not as easy as you might think. The problem that will come with it will push the population to take some drastic actions which might be disturbing to the new nation.

The truth is that you are overly seen the land from a squeezed yet sizable condition than from a habitable one. The Eastern region land size is as follows:

1. Enugu State 7,161
2. Abia State 6,320
3. Ebonyi State 5,670
4. Imo state 5,100
5. Anabra State 4,844

Total land size 29,095 km^2

The 5 major Igbo people land altogether is not as large as Plateau State which 30,913 km^2. And, additional 20 millions to the population density of many Eastern states as bad as that of Lagos is a problem. The Population of those 5 major Igbo states is approximately 39.3 million and plus additional 20 million making it a total of 59.3 million which will spell population explosion for that region.

You failed to see where I went further to talk about having a market for the goods you might produced at the end. By having those industry because local consumption alone can not sustain the economy is not going to contribute much at the onset when the economy is not development and nation not industrialized. That again is another consequential factor to consider. Arable land is not such much available in the SE and the land is usually red earth often times eroded. So, to feed the massive population will be an enormous task. We might likely see one of the worst inflation in Africa in that nation if not carefully managed.

The water ways are usually controlled by other neighboring States which might have their own nation. That been said, they might want to make a fortune from those ports entering into those water ways by applying border taxes,etc.

South Sudan trade commodity the world needs oil. The shoes you used as an example are not fully and resourcefully Igbo's. The raw materials needed for the production are sourced from other parts. Then we will now see how competitive they will be with China. Indeed, I doubt Ghana and Cameroon would be so keen on buying them without considering the high cost of transportation, quality and other overhead cost the neighboring nation would like to add to your products at that particular point in time. So, it is not going to be a smooth sail as you are making it to look.

As I said earlier, people have to come together and agree on a period of time for the breakup so that hard conditions can be anticipated. Just going about the breakup without forestalled plans is going to be devastating than having just freedom for freedom sake.

Dude, you overall thinking is GROSSLY FLAWED, but open another thread on that, and then send me a message. I will meet u on there. As u can see, the mods hid the posts and my lengthy post addressed all your concerns. Like I said, open another thread, not on this one.
Re: Did Chinua Achebe Actually Do Anything To Promote Development In Nigeria? by Nobody: 8:40am On Mar 24, 2013
I hope he's buried in the US of AmericA and not Africa. Always stay in ur country and fight. I respect fighter like Tinubu, Fashola, and all other meaningful Nigerians who fought for their beliefs in their country. Papa had superiority complex. Being buried in Nigeria is less dignifying than the awards he rejected. Well I hope Jonathan will pardon him.

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Re: Did Chinua Achebe Actually Do Anything To Promote Development In Nigeria? by Nobody: 8:43am On Mar 24, 2013
15 Pages of this thread shows Chinua Achebe was a enigma. His legacy lives on./ .. There was once a country.... If Biafra was, then Boko Haram would not have been, cos each Protectorate would have not been alien to each other in a union of oil and water. #Neo-Achebe School of Thoughts.

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Re: Did Chinua Achebe Actually Do Anything To Promote Development In Nigeria? by Nobody: 8:50am On Mar 24, 2013
AdeCisco: I hope he's buried in the US of AmericA and not Africa. Always stay in ur country and fight. I respect fighter like Tinubu, Fashola, and all other meaningful Nigerians who fought for their beliefs in their country. Papa had superiority complex. Being buried in Nigeria is less dignifying than the awards he rejected. Well I hope Jonathan will pardon him.
Tinubu and Fashola are not fighters, I can call them Political Parasites, they are after their pockets. You need 2 Heroes, cos those 2 are zeroes.

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Re: Did Chinua Achebe Actually Do Anything To Promote Development In Nigeria? by Nobody: 8:53am On Mar 24, 2013
~Bluetooth:


Did fela or Soyinka ever sing/write about iboes ? No

Did they ever say bad about oju-iku or Ashebe ? No

Did Ashebe ever say anything bad about Awo/yoruba ? Yes


You are free to decide if to hate fela or soyinka !

They wont say because they don't have anything to say that igbos did to them. What achebe said about the yourobas is true and is evident in you yourself. Your life and sense of reasoning and hatred portrays how every youroba feel about the ibos, in all thank you for proving achebe right once again.

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Re: Did Chinua Achebe Actually Do Anything To Promote Development In Nigeria? by fr3do(m): 8:53am On Mar 24, 2013
U're a very shallow minded individual,u wud say the same tin 4 ojukwu and every other person dat supported the biafran idea,i believe achebe was fed up wit corruption to as much to refuse 2 national awards,He actually lost,materially by refusing those awards.this same man refused $1m offer from 50 cent.
So mister try to be liberal,i know u're yoruba but think wit ur head not wit ur buttocks.
No president ever from the east(apart from aguiyi ironsi),think thats fair

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Re: Did Chinua Achebe Actually Do Anything To Promote Development In Nigeria? by Sibrah: 8:57am On Mar 24, 2013
aryzgreat: I took the time, strained my eyes, endured the vitriolic attack, enjoyed the defence as i read every comment on this thread b4 mine.

It is pertinent to state it in BLACK and white dat am not suprised at the attack coming from the yorubas. Tribalism is enshrined in them and i have no apology for this. Awolowo is a case study! He invented tribalism into d polity.

@ OP and all the yoruba air heads in this thread i will answer ur questions with Late Prof Chinualumogu Achebe's quotes

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Blah blah blah
how can the wisdom of a native doctor be in his cap? . . . this guy must be confusing ModeNine the rapper with Achebe.
Re: Did Chinua Achebe Actually Do Anything To Promote Development In Nigeria? by Nobody: 8:58am On Mar 24, 2013
Let us not forget, that our attacks on Achebe, was because he expounded the truth, with verifiable references. He passed the message, as is, as was. We should always seek to ask "Was it true?" "Is it true?" And not try to say, "Shall we forget?" "Why should we not forget?" We can always forgive. One man's Betrayal of another man's folly to engage in a needful but unplanned war, plunged a country into a needless civil war, with several millions turned to ashes and bones, we can forgive but history says, do should not forget. Learn from History. Achebe simply painted History in its true color. Hate not the messenger. #Neo-Achebe#

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Re: Did Chinua Achebe Actually Do Anything To Promote Development In Nigeria? by Nobody: 8:58am On Mar 24, 2013
AdeCisco: I hope he's buried in the US of AmericA and not Africa. Always stay in ur country and fight. I respect fighter like Tinubu, Fashola, and all other meaningful Nigerians who fought for their beliefs in their country. Papa had superiority complex. Being buried in Nigeria is less dignifying than the awards he rejected. Well I hope Jonathan will pardon him.

Fighters? I pity Nigeria

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Re: Did Chinua Achebe Actually Do Anything To Promote Development In Nigeria? by manny4life(m): 9:02am On Mar 24, 2013
AdeCisco: I hope he's buried in the US of AmericA and not Africa. Always stay in ur country and fight. I respect fighter like Tinubu, Fashola, and all other meaningful Nigerians who fought for their beliefs in their country. Papa had superiority complex. Being buried in Nigeria is less dignifying than the awards he rejected. Well I hope Jonathan will pardon him.


You mean fighters like Tinubu who called Boko Haram and their attacks "minor" and supported amnesty, shey that's the kind of fighters Nigerians need abi? Nigeria is indeed doomed, I'll rather stick with the shoeless fisherman than a coward who will appease his masters with anything

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Re: Did Chinua Achebe Actually Do Anything To Promote Development In Nigeria? by waja(m): 9:07am On Mar 24, 2013
ypzilanti: What does OP want Achebe to do? Bulid roads and bridges? The guy was an author and he excelled at what he did...in fact he was among the best in the world. All that he was fighting for was for your governor and president to be the among the best in the world too. Hope that answers your question.
. Well answered.
Re: Did Chinua Achebe Actually Do Anything To Promote Development In Nigeria? by Nobody: 9:09am On Mar 24, 2013
I shall not forget to remember, that "Things Fall Apart" is a best-seller. Translated into over 40 languages and is read nearly in every country in the planet. Nelson Mandela had this to say about Chinua "A man, in whose company, the Prison wall fell"! Achebe is a great man, Is, because, he lives forever and ever. He is to Literature, what Einstein is to Physics. ..."There was once a country"...Paints history of a Pre-1914 Southern Protectorate that was wrongfully amalgamated to the Northern Protectorate, Amalgamated because they were not one with the North. Biafra was meant to restore the Pre-1914 quo, but the betrayal of one man, against the folly of another, led the mixture of oil and water into needless tears and blood, hunger and disease. My Dad lost it all, my birth nearly 2 decades after the war was affected cos we could barely get back on his past status as a celebrated merchant. Now here we are, Boko Haram in the pre-1914 Northern Protectorate and MEND in the Pre-1914 Southern Protectorate. This is an indication that Oil and Water though boiled to almost 100% degrees of heat of poverty and strive, is yet to mix. The vultures are enjoying the spoils of war - Niger Delta Oil. #Neo-Achebe#

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Re: Did Chinua Achebe Actually Do Anything To Promote Development In Nigeria? by ikennahill: 9:15am On Mar 24, 2013
Eko Ile:

Words and books are very powerful tools that heals, influence and change minds and ashebe used these powerful instrument to divide and spread hate and bigotry. His last book didn't heal, it divided the country and erased all the gains we've made.

That bitter old man was selfish and thoughtless. Who writes dumb stuff like that in 2013 and at 82 years old? Obviously, he was hateful and bitter man to the core and he took all that baggage to the grave with him.

yorubas will never like Achebe,even Nigeria might never like him but the man said the truth and was ready to face the notorious lagos press with their editorials,write ups etc.That book he called it his memoir and personal history. Chimandu edichie said that we understand differently and i put it clear that people understand achebe differently.The way the world under stand the great iroko tree called Achebe,is different from the way some Nigerians understand him,it is different from the way Yorubas that did not actually know how it feel to be bombed,starved and given mere 20 pounds.There was no war in yoruba land,so yoruba does not know what it mean for bomb to fall in market place and kill thousands of people like it happened in ABA,Enugu,Umuahia,etc.Achebe wrote his personal experince and somebody some where want him to write it to suit his ego.The man is the man f the people.He has right to be bitter,even young generations of Nigerians that have gone to countries like Ghana,Togo,Boswana,Egypt,Tunisia,South africa,Trinidad and Tobago,etc,even Gambia,will be bitter about the sandy country called Nigeria.Achebe at 82 wrote a personal memoir and some retarded fool does not see that the man is a great man(note my use of the word 'is')because just like fela anikulaokpo kuti,Dim chukwuemeka Ojukwu,alvan ikoku,Dr.Francis Ibiam,etc they are all aive in us.Your hatred for Achebe cannot be little him.Nelson mandela in his tribute to Achebe said he was the man that brought africa organization even in colonial time to the world and he (Achebe) was the man whose literature brought down the wall of the prison ROBBEN ISLAND.

Things fall apart was a master piece that have been translated into over 50 languages world wide,the film as old as it was is still sort after even here in Austria.Achebe planted Nigeria in front but our bad leadership is killing Nigeria.The same man that pardoned a thief want to give a responsible man an award.Achebe is a true son of his father,where achebe come from they are known to be warriors,he used his pen to stir our mind and to show that things fell apart when oyibo people did not key into our already organised africa way of life,but gave us their own and we cannot cope with it.Read anthill of savanah too.You should be proud of Achebe who at 82 wrote a book about his personal experince on Biafra war which is still on going.you may like him,you may hate him but he is an iroko tree far above other trees in the forest.your hatred for the old man means nothing.He spoke the truth and generation yet unborn will read his books and grab the truth which if they use well will set them free.

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Re: Did Chinua Achebe Actually Do Anything To Promote Development In Nigeria? by Efikman(m): 9:15am On Mar 24, 2013
Chronic Yoruba tribalistic MODS like OAM4J will one day cripple nairaland if Seun Osewa does not do something about it quick. When Yoruba bigots attack Achebe, Ibos and easterners as a whole by using derogatory words such as "ashebe", "Igbos", "yam pottage", "eboes", e.t.c, he will look the other way. But when those attacked reply with same derogatory words
Like Yoruba or Yoruba, he will not hesitate to ban them. Is this right? where then is the justice? Nobody will insult any Yoruba man if the bigots here don't draw the first blood. Make una enjoy. Afterall na una get nairaland. Nonsense!!!!!!!

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Re: Did Chinua Achebe Actually Do Anything To Promote Development In Nigeria? by 7842I: 9:17am On Mar 24, 2013
Achebe was never a high ranking government official so cannot directly do anything to promote development in Nigeria. However he developed the minds of younger readers, exposed us to certain local realities that made physical development possible. Yes, Achebe developed this nation with his pen.

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Re: Did Chinua Achebe Actually Do Anything To Promote Development In Nigeria? by Nobody: 9:19am On Mar 24, 2013
Efikman: Chronic Yoruba tribalistic MODS like OAM4J will one day cripple nairaland if Seun Osewa does not do something about it quick. When Yoruba bigots attack Achebe, Ibos and easterners as a whole by using derogatory words such as "ashebe", "Igbos", "yam pottage", "eboes", e.t.c, he will look the other way. But when those attacked reply with same derogatory words
Like Yoruba or Yoruba, he will not hesitate to ban them. Is this right? where then is the justice? Nobody will insult any Yoruba man if the bigots here don't draw the first blood. Make una enjoy. Afterall na una get nairaland. Nonsense!!!!!!!
I have observed that, I can only say the managers of this site didnt intend for it to be a forum for truth, it was meant to be a forum for nepotism. What you can do in essence is, keep saying the truth, sign up 200 monikas if need be and keep saying the truth.

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Re: Did Chinua Achebe Actually Do Anything To Promote Development In Nigeria? by penny01502: 9:20am On Mar 24, 2013
Mr. Globe:

What more is there to be said. Nairaland is like a field where retartded individuals have the opportunity to display foolishness and relate with smart and intelligent folks. The Op will have such fraudsters as awolowo, Fashola and Tinubu as a hero and contributor to the development of Nigeria as against people like Achebe and Soyinka
dont mind the idiot, am yet to say something perhaps teach that great fool sense

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Re: Did Chinua Achebe Actually Do Anything To Promote Development In Nigeria? by Efikman(m): 9:23am On Mar 24, 2013
AdeCisco: I hope he's buried in the US of AmericA and not Africa. Always stay in ur country and fight. I respect fighter like Tinubu, Fashola, and all other meaningful Nigerians who fought for their beliefs in their country. Papa had superiority complex. Being buried in Nigeria is less dignifying than the awards he rejected. Well I hope Jonathan will pardon him.
Tinubu and Fashola fighters Abi treasury looters...... Please visit the nearest psychiatric hospital for evaluation.

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Re: Did Chinua Achebe Actually Do Anything To Promote Development In Nigeria? by tpia5: 9:24am On Mar 24, 2013
AdeCisco: I hope he's buried in the US of AmericA and not Africa. Always stay in ur country and fight. I respect fighter like Tinubu, Fashola, and all other meaningful Nigerians who fought for their beliefs in their country. Papa had superiority complex. Being buried in Nigeria is less dignifying than the awards he rejected. Well I hope Jonathan will pardon him.

Tinubu and fashola did not send you message o.

You're on your own in this matter.

The person jonathan needs to pardon is your teacher for not teaching you well.

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Re: Did Chinua Achebe Actually Do Anything To Promote Development In Nigeria? by Nobody: 9:30am On Mar 24, 2013
Who be Ashepe? undecided

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Re: Did Chinua Achebe Actually Do Anything To Promote Development In Nigeria? by olufunmibi(m): 9:31am On Mar 24, 2013
Well for me it just happened that I've never read any of Chinua Achebe's books, my elderly sibblings did, because it was the fad in their days, but history effectively told us that he is a great literary icon,he was a strategist during the biafran war, he received national honours and turned some down, and he wrote a book "there was a country" at age 81 or so which reignited generation old animosity, hatred, and disaffection between the Yorubas and the Igbos.the book is a time bomb, it has a potential to cause carnage and bloodshed in the future, if the wound of ethnic hatred remained festering and fungating. For me, I regret that that book was written in the twilight of his life, it has not helped national unity, it has made us hate ourselves more. I read with disgust what people, the Igbos, write on this forum about my Patriach,Obafemi Awolowo. Never mind. It is what it is. You, your children, your Grand children will spend Naira, that name Naira, our Collective Monetary Identity as Nigerian was coined by Obafemi Awolowo, and please always remember to collect your N100 Change, that is Awo in your pocket. It is what it is! Obafemi Awolowo University Ile Ife, best University in Nigeria, is Awo's Brainchild, he was the Chancellor, it is what it is. If you are great, You are Great, it is just what it is! By the way I commiserate with you my Igbo compatriots on your loss, may God keep raising great men and men who foster peace and not divison among you. And may you one day again have a great leader, who you can all rally around, who can be your guiding light and lead your race to the greatness you always aspire to, not just people writing books causing fight among children on the internet. Accept my condolences.

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Re: Did Chinua Achebe Actually Do Anything To Promote Development In Nigeria? by victorD3: 9:38am On Mar 24, 2013
OP is intellectually lazy.
Re: Did Chinua Achebe Actually Do Anything To Promote Development In Nigeria? by Nobody: 9:38am On Mar 24, 2013
It seems Igbos are spoiling for war but don't worry, we're ready for you. Shebi most of you live in Lagos. When the time comes we'll cut all you in Lagos from your kith and kin in the East, and Ondo to Benin will serve as the buffer zone to the east. You don't want war with us! Once the Ijaws, Ibibios and annags cut you off from the sea, it's over for you. Okoro ronu ooooo.

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