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Re: A Tale Of Two Stadiums. Lagos And Abuja Stadiums... by ajetunblog(m): 3:25pm On Apr 13, 2013
not only in Nigeria,its normal thing

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Re: A Tale Of Two Stadiums. Lagos And Abuja Stadiums... by victorazy(m): 3:28pm On Apr 13, 2013
Plz moderator, there is nothing like "two stadiums" is two stadia

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Re: A Tale Of Two Stadiums. Lagos And Abuja Stadiums... by Symphony007: 3:32pm On Apr 13, 2013
Eko Ile:

You sound very shallow. Reading your posts makes me feel like I'm insulting my own intelligence.
apparently you're not "intelligent" enough to challenge the "shallowness" of my comment. Rather you put together this shambolic display of idiocy!!

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Re: A Tale Of Two Stadiums. Lagos And Abuja Stadiums... by EkoIle1: 3:35pm On Apr 13, 2013
Symphony007: apparently you're not "intelligent" enough to challenge the "shallowness" of my comment. Rather you put together this shambolic display of idiocy!!


That's it? You still round extremely shallow.
Re: A Tale Of Two Stadiums. Lagos And Abuja Stadiums... by princemmab(m): 3:37pm On Apr 13, 2013
Whats d plural of stadium, tot its stadia... kk stadiums is also correct bt iuts an outdated english
Re: A Tale Of Two Stadiums. Lagos And Abuja Stadiums... by naptu2: 3:39pm On Apr 13, 2013
What is the correct plural? Is it stadiums or stadia? Please click on this link
http://english.stackexchange.com/questions/29060/what-is-the-correct-plural-of-stadium
Re: A Tale Of Two Stadiums. Lagos And Abuja Stadiums... by Symphony007: 3:40pm On Apr 13, 2013
naptu2:

Personally I prefer to assess the performance of agencies rather than personalities, but I can understand those who choose to call out the president.

The National Assembly can only complain and investigate, but they can't do more than that in this case. The job of managing the stadium lies with the executive. The President is the head of the executive.

The stadium is meant to be managed by the ministry, sports commission and stadium manager. There is only one person who has the power to sack all these people. That's the President. He also appoints these people. The ministers job is actually to act as a representative of the president and he serves at the pleasure of the President. If he performs well, the President gets the glory. So what do you think should happen if he doesn't perform well?

Like President Truman wrote on his desk, "the buck stops here".
did you actually get my point? Yes, the buck stops with the president but he does'nt get to everywhere at once, you do notexpect the president who is running the nation to know the state of abuja stadium, that is the job of the sports ministry, and if the sports ministry is'nt doing their job, a members of the national assembly whoes duties are to be more in touch with basic problems will bring this to the floor, where it will be reffered to the commitees on sports and these commitees will summon the sports minister for hearings and send a letter to the president. And then it is left to him to discipline his ministry of sports for such negligence. This is basic government principles of oversight taught in high schools!!

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Re: A Tale Of Two Stadiums. Lagos And Abuja Stadiums... by Symphony007: 3:42pm On Apr 13, 2013
Eko Ile:


That's it? You still round extremely shallow.
if i'm so shallow, then explain the dept of my shallowness and stop being vague!cheesycheesycheesy
Re: A Tale Of Two Stadiums. Lagos And Abuja Stadiums... by EkoIle1: 3:58pm On Apr 13, 2013
Symphony007: if i'm so shallow, then explain the dept of my shallowness and stop being vague!cheesycheesycheesy


Why should I when its written all over your shallow posts?
Re: A Tale Of Two Stadiums. Lagos And Abuja Stadiums... by ejifranks(m): 4:02pm On Apr 13, 2013
@ Op please before you post pics get your facts rights ... i was at the abuja stadium recently and its under full rehabilitation .. we all know the aim of this thread... and it failed woefully... ACN Mugus

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Re: A Tale Of Two Stadiums. Lagos And Abuja Stadiums... by honeric01(m): 4:11pm On Apr 13, 2013
ejifranks: @ Op please before you post pics get your facts rights ... i was at the abuja stadium recently and its under full rehabilitation .. we all know the aim of this thread... and it failed woefully... ACN Mugus

Please can you post the recent pictures for us to see.


Pictures are the biggest textbooks in the world.
Re: A Tale Of Two Stadiums. Lagos And Abuja Stadiums... by naptu2: 4:12pm On Apr 13, 2013
Symphony007: did you actually get my point? Yes, the buck stops with the president but he does'nt get to everywhere at once, you do notexpect the president who is running the nation to know the state of abuja stadium, that is the job of the sports ministry, and if the sports ministry is'nt doing their job, a members of the national assembly whoes duties are to be more in touch with basic problems will bring this to the floor, where it will be reffered to the commitees on sports and these commitees will summon the sports minister for hearings and send a letter to the president. And then it is left to him to discipline his ministry of sports for such negligence. This is basic government principles of oversight taught in high schools!!

How long do you think that will take?

1) The President appoints these people. Therefore he should appoint competent people who can do the job. If he does this, there would be no need for the long process you outlined.

2) The President, or his appointees, formulates programmes and systems that would ensure that these things would not happen (programmes and systems, or you may call them policies, such as privatisation, commercialisation, use of artificial turf, etc). These policies, programmes or systems would be discussed at the Federal Executive Council. (Question: what is the current Federal Government policy for managing government owned stadiums?). Now, if you read my posts on this thread, you'll see that this is what is most important to me. Abuja Stadium is being renovated, but what about Lagos National Stadium? What about Liberty Stadium?

3) The President is elected by the people and if his programmes, policies or appointees are not working, then the people can petition the president to correct the wrong. That's what happened with the police college issue (you saw that the President went there) and that's what happened with the stadium issue (again, you saw that the President went there).


That's democracy. (The legislature is meant to make laws and perform oversight functions, but the oversight functions of the legislature should not be confused with the responsibility off the President, who is accountable to the people).

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Re: A Tale Of Two Stadiums. Lagos And Abuja Stadiums... by Mogidi: 4:13pm On Apr 13, 2013
Eko Ile:


Why should I when its written all over your shallow posts?

Sorry to tell you this but you make no fukkking sense in 95% of your post.
Re: A Tale Of Two Stadiums. Lagos And Abuja Stadiums... by EkoIle1: 4:23pm On Apr 13, 2013
ejifranks: @ Op please before you post pics get your facts rights ... i was at the abuja stadium recently and its under full rehabilitation .. we all know the aim of this thread... and it failed woefully... ACN Mugus

This is very idiotic. We know the govetment is spending another round of tax payers money to cover their incompetency because the press blew the whistle and public outcry so keep quit about renovations.

The question is why was it neglected and let rot in the first place and why are others like the one in lagos rotten beyond recognition? Why are they constantly wasting public funds to fix mismanagement after mismanagement with no accountability?

Rehabilitation or not, that stadium at this very second is not functional and that's the bottomline. Period.
Re: A Tale Of Two Stadiums. Lagos And Abuja Stadiums... by EkoIle1: 4:25pm On Apr 13, 2013
Mogidi:

Sorry to tell you this but you make no fukkking sense in 95% of your post.

I bet I'll make a lot of sense if I support and condone incompetency and mismanagement like you right? What else is new?
Re: A Tale Of Two Stadiums. Lagos And Abuja Stadiums... by EkoIle1: 4:30pm On Apr 13, 2013
naptu2:

How long do you think that will take?

1) The President appoints these people. Therefore he should appoint competent people who can do the job. If he does this, there would be no need for the long process you outlined.

2) The President, or his appointees, formulates programmes and systems that would ensure that these things would not happen (programmes and systems, or you may call them policies, such as privatisation, commercialisation, use of artificial turf, etc). These policies, programmes or systems would be discussed at the Federal Executive Council. (Question: what is the current Federal Government policy for managing government owned stadiums?). Now, if you read my posts on this thread, you'll see that this is what is most important to me. Abuja Stadium is being renovated, but what about Lagos National Stadium? What about Liberty Stadium?

3) The President is elected by the people and if his programmes, policies or appointees are not working, then the people can petition the president to correct the wrong. That's what happened with the police college issue (you saw that the President went there) and that's what happened with the stadium issue (again, you saw that the President went there).


That's democracy. (The legislature is meant to make laws and perform oversight functions, but the oversight functions of the legislature should not be confused with the responsibility off the President, who is accountable to the people).


How hard is this to understand? Do they still teach social studies or civic education in Nigeria?
Re: A Tale Of Two Stadiums. Lagos And Abuja Stadiums... by ewet: 4:32pm On Apr 13, 2013
GEJ how can you let this happen? I bet you dont giv a damn abt this one too!
Re: A Tale Of Two Stadiums. Lagos And Abuja Stadiums... by JaaizTech: 5:02pm On Apr 13, 2013
All I can say is that the state of the Abuja Stadium is a factual, undeniable evidence of how inept and corrupt the Federal Government of this country have been. Really, how hard can it be to maintain just one National Stadium. The one in Lagos, Surulere has already been abandoned but the only one right under their nostrils they watched it deteriorate into this shameful state!!! . Men, these guys(PDP Politicians) are psychopaths.
Re: A Tale Of Two Stadiums. Lagos And Abuja Stadiums... by firstYS(m): 5:12pm On Apr 13, 2013
This is another way for the government to employe at least maybe 500 people to do the maintenance of this Job.
but their reasoning will never go there.
infact i don't believe if any of the FG body are reading this tread at all

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Re: A Tale Of Two Stadiums. Lagos And Abuja Stadiums... by Nobody: 5:17pm On Apr 13, 2013
For the record,:
The Abuja National stadium (the mainbowl, indoor arena, swimming pools, tennis courts and velodrome) cost $380 million to construct. The sports minister has assured that the stadium will be able to host the Nigeria v Malawi world cup qualiifier in September.

Still, its no excuse for leaving the stadium to rot the way it did. I'm glad that the FG has finally decided to concession both National stadia in Lagos and Abuja..
I hope the concessionees for the Lagos national stadium knock down the mainbowl, and construct a football-only arena. The Teslim Balogun stadium can be used for athletics events.
Re: A Tale Of Two Stadiums. Lagos And Abuja Stadiums... by EkoIle1: 5:43pm On Apr 13, 2013




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National Stadium Surulere is now chineese restaurants and owambe venues and you know the officials in charge ofthe place are the ones renting out this public property and pocketting the money so you know it's not in their best interest for this place to be fixed or maintained..
Re: A Tale Of Two Stadiums. Lagos And Abuja Stadiums... by akinshivic(m): 6:14pm On Apr 13, 2013
This is a country were we are penny wise and pounds foolish. I think these problems will continue to emanate in as much we are lacking maintainance culture. Abuja stadium is not even in bad condition at all.....come to Liberty stadium in Ibadan and see, You'll be forced to ask if this is a stadium or a jungle!
Re: A Tale Of Two Stadiums. Lagos And Abuja Stadiums... by Eziachi: 6:51pm On Apr 13, 2013
omenka:

OP you are a LIAR!!!! Those are pictures of Yankari Game reserve and not a stadium!
You are right, the stadium is now habited by small and big animals, so you are right to call it a game reserve. Yankari National Stadium Game Reserve Abuja.
Re: A Tale Of Two Stadiums. Lagos And Abuja Stadiums... by Eziachi: 6:57pm On Apr 13, 2013
Yomieluv: Nigeria,and their stale News,and pull him down syndrome. The pix the op showed were the one used by The punch newspaper,when it ran a caption on the said stadium (Abuja stadium). The Abuja stadium is now fully renovated,and under the maintenance of Julius Berger. The Teslim Balogun stadium recently held a local competition,which can't be held in desolated state. I can't say much about the National stadium,Lagos.

I have to say this,cos some dimwits like the Op would start bashing,and throw barrages of insults to the authority without any knowledge of the current state of the stadium.

Am not a Fan of GEJ,but I hate when people comment with prejudice.

I rest my case.
Have you any evidence like picture to back your own version? The Op may be trying to score a point based on prejudice as you said, but until you provide the evidence to backup your, we will keep history until that time.
Re: A Tale Of Two Stadiums. Lagos And Abuja Stadiums... by Nobody: 7:00pm On Apr 13, 2013
Eziachi:
You are right, the stadium is now habited by small and big animals, so you are right to call it a game reserve. Yankari National Stadium Game Reserve Abuja.
Lmao grin grin grin
Re: A Tale Of Two Stadiums. Lagos And Abuja Stadiums... by thelastPope(m): 7:15pm On Apr 13, 2013
It is sad to see the kind of hate and pull him down propaganda these ACN foools try to push. It won get them anywhere eventually.

The stup1d @Op, after being found out to be a liar, is now twisting the story and asking why the stadium was neglected in the first place. But in his foolishness, he forgot that:

1. He compared the abandoned Abuja stadium pictures to the renovated Teslim Balogun stadium. Why didn't he compare the abandoned Abuja stadium to the abandoned Teslim Balogun before it was renovated and then compare the current, renovated Abuja with the renovated Teslim Balogun? Ans: Because he is a fool and a bigot!

2. He asked why it was abandoned in the first place as if it was the present government that abandoned it. He deliberately refused to mention that the current government immediately responded when the media brought their attention to it. Such pathetic idiocy that some kids post on this forum. It is such a shame.

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Re: A Tale Of Two Stadiums. Lagos And Abuja Stadiums... by naptu2: 7:28pm On Apr 13, 2013
Teslim Balogun Stadium was opened in 2007 and has not been abandoned since then. The National Stadium Abuja on the other hand, hosted games of the junior World Cup in 2009 (it also hosted the Nigeria vs Guinea match in 2011) and look at the state off the stadium in 2012.
Re: A Tale Of Two Stadiums. Lagos And Abuja Stadiums... by Nobody: 7:31pm On Apr 13, 2013
naptu2: Teslim Balogun Stadium was opened in 2007 and has not been abandoned since then. The National Stadium Abuja on the other hand, hosted games of the junior World Cup in 2009 and look at the state off the stadium in 2012.

In addition, the Abuja stadium was commissioned in April 2003, 4 days before the Presidential election of that year, and 3 months to the All Africa Games.
Re: A Tale Of Two Stadiums. Lagos And Abuja Stadiums... by EkoIle1: 7:37pm On Apr 13, 2013
thelastPope: It is sad to see the kind of hate and pull him down propaganda these ACN foools try to push. It won get the anywhere eventually.

The stup1d op, after being found out to be a liar, is now twisting the story and asking why the stadium was neglected in the first place. But in his foolishness, he forgot that:

1. He compared the abandoned Abuja stadium pictures to the renovated Teslim Balogun stadium. Why didn't he compare the abandoned Abuja stadium to the abandoned Teslim Balogun before it was renovated and then compare the current, renovated Abuja with the renovated Teslim Balogun? Before he is a fool and a bigot!

2. He asked why it was abandoned in the first place as if it was the present government that abandoned it. Such pathetic idiocy that some kids post on this forum. It is such a shame.

You people no.dey disappoint sha.

There is a huge difference between neglecting your obligations till being told and yelled at and being proactive and responsible by recognizing that you have to get up and maintain your infrastructure without being told .

Still, that was a silly excuse because it makes no sense using other people to excuse away your own problem and incompetency.

You are a joker sha so no worries...
Re: A Tale Of Two Stadiums. Lagos And Abuja Stadiums... by emiye(m): 7:41pm On Apr 13, 2013
thelastPope: It is sad to see the kind of hate and pull him down propaganda these ACN foools try to push. It won get them anywhere eventually.

The stup1d @Op, after being found out to be a liar, is now twisting the story and asking why the stadium was neglected in the first place. But in his foolishness, he forgot that:

1. He compared the abandoned Abuja stadium pictures to the renovated Teslim Balogun stadium. Why didn't he compare the abandoned Abuja stadium to the abandoned Teslim Balogun before it was renovated and then compare the current, renovated Abuja with the renovated Teslim Balogun? Ans: Because he is a fool and a bigot!

2. He asked why it was abandoned in the first place as if it was the present government that abandoned it. He deliberately refused to mention that the current government immediately responded when the media brought their attention to it. Such pathetic idiocy that some kids post on this forum. It is such a shame.

To the bolded, should a government not be proactive ?

If a government waits to be reactive to every issue, then it is the hallmark of incompetency.

The govt needed channels tv to show it the rot in the police college, before it responded, what annoyed me most was Jonathan look stunned about the rot, how long will the reactive fuckery to issues continue ?
Re: A Tale Of Two Stadiums. Lagos And Abuja Stadiums... by thelastPope(m): 8:10pm On Apr 13, 2013
emiye:

To the bolded, should a government not be proactive ?

If a government waits to be reactive to every issue, then it is the hallmark of incompetency.

The govt needed channels tv to show it the rot in the police college, before it responded, what annoyed me most was Jonathan look stunned about the rot, how long will the reactive fuckery to issues continue ?


What are you talking about? What is government? You think government is a man sitting inside a house in abuja? What a way to think. Government is everyone. Every citizen and every agency has a role to play. The whole purpose of criticism is to get the government to respond, not to effect a power change like some of you think. I watched a news item on CNN yesterday where they showed a bridge that was too low and was destroying trucks somewhere in the US. The videos where pulled from youtube. The simple message was to get the authorities to respond. The campaign has been on for like 10 years and the government hasn't responded since then.

You actually expected a government, which was just about 1 year old then, to have seen every rot in Nigeria and fixed it by the middle of last year? You don't know what you are saying, bro.

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Re: A Tale Of Two Stadiums. Lagos And Abuja Stadiums... by thelastPope(m): 8:17pm On Apr 13, 2013
Eko Ile:

You people no.dey disappoint sha.

There is a huge difference between neglecting your obligations till being told and yelled at and being proactive and responsible by recognizing that you have to get up and maintain your infrastructure without being told .

Still, that was a silly excuse because it makes no sense using other people to excuse away your own problem and incompetency.

You are a joker sha so no worries...


Why did you not compare the abandoned Abuja stadium to the Abandoned Teslim Balogun stadium and the renovated Teslim Balogun to the renovated Abuja stadium.

Ans: because you are a sycophant and a bundle of deceipt. Keep the propaganda coming.

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