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North Disagrees With Ban On Boko-haram, Ansaru by Idokojimmy: 5:23am On Jun 06, 2013
The North on Wednesday disagreed with the National Assembly on the proscription of two Islamic miltant groups - Boko Haram and Ansaru-by President Goodluck Jonathan.

While the North through its two prominent groups, the Arewa Consultative Forum and the Northern Elders Forum, faulted the ban, the National Assembly insisted that it was a welcome development.

To the ACF and the NEF, the Jonathan administration has through the ban thrown a spanner in the works in its efforts to  end   bloodletting in the North  through amnesty for Boko Haram and Ansaru members.

They said they were waiting to see  how the Federal Government would address the  crisis in the North.

In an interview with one of our correspondents in Kaduna, the  ACF's National Publicity Secretary, Mr. Anthony Sani, argued that with the ban,   negotiations with Boko Haram would be difficult.

He asked, "Now that they (government) have proscribed the sect, can they now negotiate with a non-existing group?

"Before,  the government told us that  it was  using  a stick and carrot approach; that is, negotiation and state of emergency; now that they  have proscribed it (Boko Haram), how will the negotiation work?

"It is the government that told us that  a stick and carrot approach will work together. Now that they have gone to proscribe  Boko Haram, let us see how they will  apply  the stick and carrot. We pray that they succeed."

Sani wondered if the government would negotiate with members of the sect individually instead of meeting the group.

He added,  "The government said they  needed the emergency in order to reclaim  the seized  town taken over by Boko Haram. This made  Nigerians, including  us (ACF)  to give them the go-ahead. We supported the state of emergency to reclaim seized part  of the country.

"But now that they have proscribed the sect, we don't know how they will apply the carrot. Now, how can you negotiate with an   illegal entity? The group has just been proscribed. They have announced it. They are applying the stick now but we don't know how they will apply the carrot."

His counterpart in the NEF,  Prof. Ango Abdullahi, said the  proscription contradicted  government's efforts to negotiate with the sect.

Abdullahi argued  that the proscription of anything should come after the legal existence of such a thing.

He added,   "As far as I can understand,   if there  is an organisation registered with the Corporate Affairs Commission and is operating according to the law before it was registered; and then along the line, the organisation begins to infringe on the laws that created it or even against its laws as registered with the Corporate Affairs Commission, you can then go ahead and cancel its registration.

"If its activities are violating the law of the country,  then issues like banning and proscription come into play.

"But in this case, people say they don't know what this Boko Haram is, they don't know the members and they are trying to get the members to come out for dialogue .

"If you are looking for dialogue, you have to expect that there will be people who will come out under certain respectable conditions.

"Two   things  have happened simultaneously-  the declaration of a  state of emergency which connotes the declaration of martial law. You cannot expect somebody to come and meet soldiers under emergency conditions and now you have the proscription."

Apart from the ACF  and NEF, the Northern Youth Consultative Forum,   a former Lagos State Police Commissioner, Abubakar Tsav, and the Campaign for Democracy  flayed the ban.

The N Y C F National President, Alhaji Aminu Mohammed, Tsav and CD President Dr. Joe Okei-Odumakin, spoke separately with our correspondents on Wednesday.

Mohammed, who  expressed concern about the planned amnesty for Boko Haram members, said  it was unfortunate  that all along,  the  Jonathan administration  had been playing politics with the sect.

He said,  "We are all intelligent.  You cannot create many  things at the same time: Boko Haram, amnesty committee,  fighting insurgents and   proscribing  the group.

"How do we trust the government? Is it not the government that is messing things up? Let them tell us who Boko Haram is? Where are they?"

On  his part,   Tsav  asked,  "Is this ban an Act of National Assembly or a decree by the President and Commander-in-Chief of the Armed Forces of Nigeria, Dr Goodluck Ebele Jonathan?

"Why did the President not include MEND(Movement for the Emancipation of the Niger Delta), NDVF (Niger Delta Volunteer Force), OPC (Odua People's Congress), Ombatse, etc in the ban since these organisations also engage in acts of terrorism?

"Was Boko Haram a legal   organisation before the ban?   He(President) just sleeps, dreams and acts on his dreams without thinking. Laws are made for all but GEJ's law is discriminatory and with ethnic bias.

"This is civilian dictatorship and not democracy. What is sauce for the goose is sauce for the gander."

Also, Okei-Odumakin said the ban was meaningless.

She asked, "What is the use of government outlawing a group that had already declared that it was the Federal Government that should beg  it for amnesty?

"It is meaningless and preposterous. The Boko Haram would laugh  it off as a joke. What the government needs to do is to enforce law and order."

Is spite of the knocks from the ACF, NEF, N Y C F, CD and Tsav, Jonathan got a  strong backing from the National Assembly which said it would stand behind him in any action that would end insurgency in the country.

  Senate Spokesman, Enyinnaya Abaribe, while briefing journalists on Wednesday, said, "The Senate welcomes the proscription of Boko Haram and other terrorist groups in the country. Although it is coming late, it is good and we will continue to support the President's efforts to bring peace to the country."

He clarified that the proclamation would not affect the amnesty plans, arguing that amnesty was for those who renounced their participation in  terrorist activities.

Abaribe said, "Those who are still continuing with terrorism are not covered by the amnesty."

 Chairman, House Committee on Media and Public Affairs, Mr. Zakari Mohammed, said, "The prescription order is a step in the right direction. As a House, we will support every proactive measure taken by the Federal Government to stem the tide of insecurity in the country.

"Whenever the government makes a pronouncement that is good, we will support it as a House."

http://www.punchng.com/news/north-kicks-against-ban-on-bharam-ansaru/

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Re: North Disagrees With Ban On Boko-haram, Ansaru by Idokojimmy: 5:28am On Jun 06, 2013
Now we know who the boko haram and their sponsors are. obviously, the ACF and the NEF have been celebrating the death of innocent nigerians, perhaps that's why all the dialogue and amnesty moves were jettisoned by them. Now the withdrawal of Datti ahmed and Sani, and the audacious silence of the northern elders on the carnage unleashd on innocent nigerians is begining to make sense. God is exposing U people grradually.

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Re: North Disagrees With Ban On Boko-haram, Ansaru by Omexonomy: 5:48am On Jun 06, 2013
The north want to us these terror group to discredit gej but from all indication they have faild. Their south west counterpart over to you it is your turn continue using cyber lies to fight gej to to see ur slavemaster in power.

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Re: North Disagrees With Ban On Boko-haram, Ansaru by ba7man(m): 5:54am On Jun 06, 2013
After the death of thousands of their own people, they still actually kick against banning these terror Organizations?? They must have really been expecting an amnesty deal in which they would all end up Billionaires.....Which concludes that they either know the perpetrator very well or they are.

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Re: North Disagrees With Ban On Boko-haram, Ansaru by Idokojimmy: 6:06am On Jun 06, 2013
Somtimes I wonder if some people have conscience. The death of thousands, the destruction of properties, crumbling northern economy, dearth of infrastructures, etc doesn't make any meaning to them. Na waooom

Yet these are the same people that supported the militarisation and sacking of the N/ delta when youths were agitaing. Its

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Re: North Disagrees With Ban On Boko-haram, Ansaru by frederal(m): 6:08am On Jun 06, 2013
Good, proscribed. North governors can secretly meet them and give them amnesty, and use their allocation to rehabilitate them. Rubbish

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Re: North Disagrees With Ban On Boko-haram, Ansaru by igbeke: 6:11am On Jun 06, 2013
like my friend would say, "end shall never wonder".
to imagine dat some northern xtians 2 are part of BH sympathisers.
i think its high time we began to be skeptical about d activities if these ACF and NEF. dey could be BH in disguise.

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Re: North Disagrees With Ban On Boko-haram, Ansaru by Sibrah: 6:13am On Jun 06, 2013
Funny country we have.
Re: North Disagrees With Ban On Boko-haram, Ansaru by PvtParts1: 6:55am On Jun 06, 2013
Everyday in Nigeria is like another day in a Lunatic Asylum.

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Re: North Disagrees With Ban On Boko-haram, Ansaru by akpanoka: 7:32am On Jun 06, 2013
I strongly suggest that the Northern elders forum and the Arewa Consultative Forum should be proscribbed as well. These bodies are lacking in rationality.

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Re: North Disagrees With Ban On Boko-haram, Ansaru by asorocker: 7:39am On Jun 06, 2013
Idokojimmy: Now we know who the boko haram and their sponsors are. obviously, the ACF and the NEF have been celebrating the death of innocent nigerians, perhaps that's why all the dialogue and amnesty moves were jettisoned by them. Now the withdrawal of Datti ahmed and Sani, and the audacious silence of the northern elders on the carnage unleashd on innocent nigerians is begining to make sense. God is exposing U people grradually.

The real Boko Haram are not the Arewa people who are living their Natural lives but the Hypocrites who insist in still living as one Nigeria in the same country , making sure people with discerning minds don't opt out of the country despite noticing and realizing such anomalies . These are the Real Boko Harams (People who rejected Knowledge)

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Re: North Disagrees With Ban On Boko-haram, Ansaru by PointB: 7:39am On Jun 06, 2013
These folks still don't get, do they?

FG is NOT, repeat, NOT negotiating with terrorists!

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Re: North Disagrees With Ban On Boko-haram, Ansaru by sigba(f): 7:59am On Jun 06, 2013
Stick and carrot ko, garri and soup ni. Some people are already feeling the heat of this SOE, this is just season one, scene one, act one. And pls MEND and BH are two diffrent groups fighting for totally diff causes.

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Re: North Disagrees With Ban On Boko-haram, Ansaru by Dracula27: 8:24am On Jun 06, 2013
We are waiting for Ameachi to come and condemn the ban too.

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Re: North Disagrees With Ban On Boko-haram, Ansaru by Nobody: 8:33am On Jun 06, 2013
Na the people our Yoruoba brodas are pitching their tents with... Like someone said on this forum. One Day the Yoruba's will blame one Tinubu for linking them with terrorist.

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Re: North Disagrees With Ban On Boko-haram, Ansaru by Opey4luv(m): 2:14pm On Jun 06, 2013
Re: North Disagrees With Ban On Boko-haram, Ansaru by supaeagles(m): 2:15pm On Jun 06, 2013
Please oh - let the north face the bitter truth and realitu about BH and support all initiatives against that evil organization. It is the time to rebuild in many parts of the north - both physically in terms of infrastructure and emotionally.
Re: North Disagrees With Ban On Boko-haram, Ansaru by jmoore(m): 2:16pm On Jun 06, 2013
You don't need a detective to tell you that Arewa Consultative Forum ACF and the Northern Elders Forum are major sponsors of Boko Haram

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Re: North Disagrees With Ban On Boko-haram, Ansaru by Samsantos9(m): 2:17pm On Jun 06, 2013
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Re: North Disagrees With Ban On Boko-haram, Ansaru by aquabeing: 2:19pm On Jun 06, 2013
gboss4sure: Na the people our Yoruoba brodas are pitching their tents with... Like someone said on this forum. One Day the Yoruba's will blame one Tinubu for linking them with terrorist.

Why don't you just leave the Yoruba people out of these and address the post

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Re: North Disagrees With Ban On Boko-haram, Ansaru by slap1(m): 2:19pm On Jun 06, 2013
Where your wealth is, there your heart will also be.

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Re: North Disagrees With Ban On Boko-haram, Ansaru by Nobody: 2:20pm On Jun 06, 2013
Now i know that the major sponsors of Boko_Haram comes from the nOrth. How can they kick against this new initiative? All i need now is just the head of the boko haram leaders.
Re: North Disagrees With Ban On Boko-haram, Ansaru by IYANGBALI: 2:21pm On Jun 06, 2013
Now we know the true enemies of Nigeria
Re: North Disagrees With Ban On Boko-haram, Ansaru by jerseyboy: 2:22pm On Jun 06, 2013
Northern MORONS

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Re: North Disagrees With Ban On Boko-haram, Ansaru by Nobody: 2:23pm On Jun 06, 2013
When breeze blow.....Fowl yansh go open...Anybody secretly celbrating d death of innocent children,women,corpers,men e.t.c.dnt worry, retribution is on its way
What goes around,doesn't just come back around,it gathers dirt on its way back.nd dumps it at ur doorstep
God is watching in HD

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Re: North Disagrees With Ban On Boko-haram, Ansaru by ACM10: 2:24pm On Jun 06, 2013
hmm

In essence they are benefitting from the activities of boko haram.
Re: North Disagrees With Ban On Boko-haram, Ansaru by chris365(m): 2:28pm On Jun 06, 2013
Wow!! So all these killings and bombing of innocent civilians that have made children become orphans, wives 'widows', families 'homeless' did not bother these groups. It's now that they've been officially termed as terrorists and their sponsors are also to get jail terms, that these people now come and and start shouting.

Let me ask. Wasn't boko haram already a terrorist network? Where were these groups when these terrorist were telling Jonathan to go an eat his amnesty? Are these old men becoming 'DAFT' as they grow older?

Am confused as to whether these niggas could have been backing these groups secretely just to have a share of the national cake. And trust aboki no get sense to cordinate well

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Re: North Disagrees With Ban On Boko-haram, Ansaru by Nobody: 2:30pm On Jun 06, 2013
Give me power lemme transform this country!!!
Re: North Disagrees With Ban On Boko-haram, Ansaru by bid4rich(m): 2:31pm On Jun 06, 2013
gboss4sure: Na the people our Yoruoba brodas are pitching their tents with... Like someone said on this forum. One Day the Yoruba's will blame one Tinubu for linking them with terrorist.


Are you thinking at all? undecided

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Re: North Disagrees With Ban On Boko-haram, Ansaru by Plutarch: 2:31pm On Jun 06, 2013
Are you kidding me undecided?
Re: North Disagrees With Ban On Boko-haram, Ansaru by Monimatic(m): 2:32pm On Jun 06, 2013
Fools
Re: North Disagrees With Ban On Boko-haram, Ansaru by baslone: 2:33pm On Jun 06, 2013
He(President) just sleeps, dreams and acts on his dreams without thinking. Laws are made for all but GEJ's law is discriminatory and with ethnic bias.

"This is civilian dictatorship and not democracy.

Woooooooooow!!!!!!! What thaaa heck!!!!!!!!! shocked shocked

Kilagbe kileju!!! shocked

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