CAMEROONPRIDE:

what do you mean again miss deols? All my comments are here I didn't edit anything , how am I twisting the truth? Are you denying what I said so far?
Are you going to say that generals who ain't on the war front are not warriors?

deols:

When Fellis challenged your post on women, you changed 'mouth' and started looking for reasons for your statement.

Fact is, since paganism has no central law or guiding principle, all that you may entice anyone with is eventually not there.

If my biggest fear is polygamy, pagan religion still doesnt help me out of it cos eventually, my faith is determined by my culture. No divine principles

deols:

Hind was safe in that battle only because the rules of engagement in Islam disallows the killing of women, children and slaves.

PAGAN 9JA:

Hi Fellis,
you got it wrong there. The role of men in households depends on your ethnic custom. This falls under the category of culture. Not all aspects of culture are of religious nature and vice versa. As in this case, these household roles are not dictated by Pagan religions. For example, in Pre-islamic Arabia, women held extremely high levels of s.exual and positional freedom, could have many husbands, could be leaders and hold high position jobs (as in the case of muhammad's wife Fatima who was a merchantwoman), could lead armies (as in the case of the Pagan Quraysh women-war leaders aganist the muslims. you must have heard of HInd Al-Hunnud who was a famous Pagan warrior against the muslims), could become priestesses (as in the case of the many women Soothsayers mentioned in the Hadeeth - prophet muhammads grandfather himself visited one; and during the Ridda wars), etc.

During the rise of islam, the chief oponents to it were the women of Arabia, because they knew they stood to lose their freedom.

APart from the Arabs, many other Pagan tribes around the world are matriarchal:

The Tuareg and most northern African tribes in the past, including the Hausa (we had a long line of Queens ruling us),
.

deols:

@Fellis, please tell me Cameroon was only drooling jare.

CAMEROONPRIDE: Fellis, I'm still waiting your answer? What do you mean by man superiority? I see you using that a lot, also have you been conviced by my explanation? I'm not a chauvinist

fellis:
If we are all equal inpaganism then why are men the only ones that are allowed to head the house? Or in your own version of paganism do women lead homes? Why can a man marry many wives but a woman cannot marry many husbands?
Abegi
There is male superiority in paganism don't even try to deny it

fellis: I meant a system where men dominate and are the only ones allowed to take the really important positions of authority.
Where the male child is regarded as more valuable than the female, where men are more respected etc

CAMEROONPRIDE:

how do you evaluate that men are more respected? What's respect sef? Positions as in jobs?

fellis:
Drooling with regards to what? My saying I have considered leaving Islam before?

PAGAN 9JA:


so what? did I talk of her being safe or in danger? I said she was a powerful woman.

and that is not islamic law. that is Bedouin tribal law adopted into islam.
it was in place because when the nomadic tribes moved around, during camel raids, the men might be killed or they might flee which leaves the women vulnerable at the hands of enemy raiders.
another reason is that during the dry season, men would have to go far and wide scouting for water which implied leaving women and children behind with livestock as it would be too cumbersome to take them along and fall prey to raiders.

fellis:

Are you serious with these questions?
Positions such as head of family or ruler of the the town, kingdom and so on is what I meant.
Good grief

deols:

It is not about the consideration. He said it as if you were leaving. Many people have doubts at one point or the other.

pleep: A question for fellis: why are you so insecure about this so called "male superiority" ?

If you want to be a doctor, a lawyer a senator go to school and do it, no one is stopping you. Why are you ppl so obsessed with being victimized?

pleep: The is a pagan culture called the "Mosuo" in china that is the most matriarchal on earth... There is no marriage, The women ask men for sex, and males live in their mothers house from birth do death.

Is that what you are looking for?

Matriarchies are by nature an unstable system, that is why few survived to the modern age.

deols:
It is not about the consideration. He said it as if you were leaving. Many people have doubts at one point or the other.

CAMEROONPRIDE:

[ do I sound unserious?
Are you saying you never heard about female ruling? Female kings ?

What's your definition of respect, this is very important so please reply.

fellis:
I have heard about it. However, those cases are few and almost inconsequential when you compare them to the instances of males ruling kingdoms.

Admiration or regard for a person that is brought about by their having certain qualities or abilities or their possessing something

queen_of_sheba: Cameroonpride, long time

[so you are still alive? , where have you been? Hope you are doing well.

CAMEROONPRIDE:

[i][so you are still alive? , where have you been? Hope you are doing well./i]

fellis:
This was the thread where we had the conversation he is referring to
https://www.nairaland.com/1254189/feminism-why-women-general-especially/27#16121043
You'd understand him better if you read it

fellis:
Would you like to live a life where you and your kind are seen as inferior or not as mentally
capable as other people? Would you like that?

queen_of_sheba: Lol yes i am just been extremely busy with studies and work. How are you?