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Re: Frosbel Is Highly Questionable by shdemidemi(m): 12:47pm On Jul 11, 2013 |
Lol Frosbel Is your God really elohim(plural)? How do you define a sadist? I believe through your worldly emotions. God is not a sadist bro, we are his enemies! He has shown mercy and grace through the gospel, anyone who refuse God is outside His love hence eternal condemnation. |
Re: Frosbel Is Highly Questionable by Nobody: 12:48pm On Jul 11, 2013 |
I can see Pygru is still stalking me ! |
Re: Frosbel Is Highly Questionable by Nobody: 12:51pm On Jul 11, 2013 |
shdemidemi: Lol Frosbel God is ONE , even JESUS attested to this in a commonly recited Shema of Israel which goes : Mark 12:29 "The most important one," answered Jesus, "is this: 'Hear, O Israel: The Lord our God, the Lord is one. Eternal torment is a doctrine of demons, only SATAN could have created such slander against the nature of GOD. I hope you are not unwittingly doing his work. "It opened its mouth to blaspheme God, and to slander his name and his dwelling place and those who live in heaven" - Revelation 13:6 |
Re: Frosbel Is Highly Questionable by shdemidemi(m): 12:59pm On Jul 11, 2013 |
frosbel: You raise unnecessary dust sometimes, I only asked a simple question. Is God 'elohim'? We both know elohim is not singular 1 Like |
Re: Frosbel Is Highly Questionable by Nobody: 1:04pm On Jul 11, 2013 |
shdemidemi: I think we have addressed this issue umpteen times, I am not willing to derail this thread with another |
Re: Frosbel Is Highly Questionable by OLAADEGBU(m): 1:14pm On Jul 11, 2013 |
frosbel: I can see Pygru is still stalking me ! Why are you being paranoid? |
Re: Frosbel Is Highly Questionable by Nobody: 2:20pm On Jul 11, 2013 |
tuniski:It is islam that is persecutor. Those that hate islam are those who mostly have experience terrible things in the hands of those who will end their madness with the shout of allah kurba 1 Like |
Re: Frosbel Is Highly Questionable by Nobody: 2:43pm On Jul 11, 2013 |
If it were 5years ago, i would have criticized frosbel with a magnitude ten times more than the weight of those of OLAADEGBU, alexleo, bizmahn and the likes put together, but my eyes have been opened and the shackles of church slavery broken-thanks to YAHWEH... I can almost say i stand for almost all he stands for. You guys can hate but i know for sure that his messages are laying a huge foundation in the heart of its readers including 'YOU'. |
Re: Frosbel Is Highly Questionable by Nobody: 2:59pm On Jul 11, 2013 |
shdemidemi: Lol FrosbelVerses like Romans11v22 and jude 5 are not in his bilble. If there are he will edit it to suit him before reading |
Re: Frosbel Is Highly Questionable by Nobody: 3:08pm On Jul 11, 2013 |
Mee234: and what do they have to do with the eternal torture chamber of your god ? |
Re: Frosbel Is Highly Questionable by Pygru: 3:30pm On Jul 11, 2013 |
frosbel: I can see Pygru is still stalking me !wetin I do again which one is stalking again I know your plan I seeeeee I double seeeee no wonder |
Re: Frosbel Is Highly Questionable by bizmahn: 10:31pm On Jul 11, 2013 |
frosbel: Makes no difference. frosbel: You also imply by this that your god is a sadist who derives glory & pleasure in annihiliating humanity after deliberately giving them licence to sin.Annihiliation doctrine=licence to sin. frosbel: If you have ever offered or encouraged others to offer to your god then you are the most fraudulent hypocrite by the above summation.If you never offered then you have no God.Tithe is my own offering to God with joy. frosbel: Visions that encourage people to urgently flee from sin & repent from all wickedness are diabolical to you for sure.It has same impact on satan too or are you related? frosbel: If you've ever peddled false teaching or lied or encouraged sin or twisted scripture or derailed xtians or fought holy men of God as is your stock in trade,then demons are certainly responsible & you are immediately required at emergency section of deliverance dept. / frosbel: Yours is christianity of freedom for unclean fashion & dress adornment,uncontrolled appetites,sin allowing behaviour while still answering a christian.Both are legalism in my definition but which will stand in God's sight. / frosbel: You must be refering to yourself here. 2 Likes |
Re: Frosbel Is Highly Questionable by alexleo(m): 10:44pm On Jul 11, 2013 |
Segeggs: If it were 5years ago, i would have criticized frosbel with a magnitude ten times more than the weight of those of OLAADEGBU, alexleo, bizmahn and the likes put together, but my eyes have been opened and the shackles of church slavery broken-thanks to YAHWEH... I can almost say i stand for almost all he stands for. You guys can hate but i know for sure that his messages are laying a huge foundation in the heart of its readers including 'YOU'. Your support of anybody here doesn't hold any water and makes no meaning if God doesn't support the person's teaching. And if after all your support here and the person is condemned at the judgment throne, will you come and defend the person? Definitely No. You ll also be battling with your own judgement. My brother bible things are different from politics where endorsement of a candidate by certain people makes him qualified. Believe what you want. Call it freedom or whatever you want. It is whosoever the son hath set free that is free indeed. Not this one you are saying here. Thanks. 2 Likes |
Re: Frosbel Is Highly Questionable by bizmahn: 11:09pm On Jul 11, 2013 |
alexleo:| Amen.I fully agree with you.Prayer is paramount.But if we pray & do not preach it makes little impact.Faith without works is dead.Who knows if the prayer of somebody lead to a thread like this & other similar threads. | I've mentioned in another thread long awhile that certainly no church is perfect & a perfect christian is hard to find but there are few individual christians & churches that are really sincere,zealous & making hard efforts primarily towards sinless righteousness even when their imperfections are apparent. | Frosbel ranks them number one in his false campain against evil churches neglecting his own evil teachings that are far worse.Yes we need to pray for him and ourselves too.But the the bible also counsels we rebuke such.I've never claimed perfection either but to qualify as a christian one MUST AT LEAST LIVE ABOVE WILFUL SIN.God helps us.Amen. 2 Likes |
Re: Frosbel Is Highly Questionable by Nobody: 11:18pm On Jul 11, 2013 |
[quote author=bizmahn] You follow 3 gods in a pagan trinity and it makes no difference You also imply by this that your god is a sadist who derives glory & pleasure in annihiliating humanity after deliberately giving them licence to sin.Annihiliation doctrine=licence to sin. Olodo, how does the destruction of the wicked = license to sin but eternal torture = guage against sin. Hmm, it means you are a Christian because of HELL and not true LOVE. If you have ever offered or encouraged others to offer to your god then you are the most fraudulent hypocrite by the above summation.If you never offered then you have no God.Tithe is my own offering to God with joy. I help those in need, you know those with real needs, not fraudulent MOG of which you are either one or one of their gullible followers. Visions that encourage people to urgently flee from sin & repent from all wickedness are diabolical to you for sure.It has same impact on satan too or are you related? So the bible is no longer sufficient for godly living, God has now introduced new revelation through visions and dreams , see how terribly deceived you are ? If you've ever peddled false teaching or lied or encouraged sin or twisted scripture or derailed xtians or fought holy men of God as is your stock in trade,then demons are certainly responsible & you are immediately required at emergency section of deliverance dept. Sorry , I am not part of your church where they are chasing witches 24/7 , casting out demons from Christians even though they are saved and busy burning their enemies with imaginary fire. thank you very much. Yours is christianity of freedom for unclean fashion & dress adornment,uncontrolled appetites,sin allowing behaviour while still answering a christian.Both are legalism in my definition but which will stand in God's sight. Oh yeah, I believe Jesus leads his children through the Spirit, he does not and has not asked MEN to lay down tradition, rules and regulations to follow. |
Re: Frosbel Is Highly Questionable by bizmahn: 6:22am On Jul 12, 2013 |
frosbel:Certainly you are not a christian else you know the danger of calling anybody a fool.God will continue to expose you. frosbel:- The BIBLE,JESUS & HOLY SPIRIT remain the final authority but God (when He chooses) still works through holy & Godly: -speaking in tongues.mk.16:17,Acts 2:4 -dreams.matt.2:22,Acts 2:17 -visions. Acts 9:10,Lk.24:23 -revelations.2 corin.12:1, Eph.3:3 'But do you ever use the bible?Yet you are everywhere yelling BIBLE,JESUS,HOLY SPIRIT as camouflage to Godless christianity. |
Re: Frosbel Is Highly Questionable by Nobody: 7:49am On Jul 12, 2013 |
He doesn't believe in Hell He doesn't believe in the Trinity He doesn't believe in Tithe What does he then believe in? |
Re: Frosbel Is Highly Questionable by PastorKun(m): 8:51am On Jul 12, 2013 |
iv4fb: He doesn't believe in Hell He believes in the one true God and that Jesus christ is his son. |
Re: Frosbel Is Highly Questionable by shdemidemi(m): 9:09am On Jul 12, 2013 |
iv4fb: He doesn't believe in Hell To be fair to him, understanding the trinity or heaven/hell and rightly debunking tithe comes with fervent study but it is never a criteria for salvation. There is only one thing that guarantees the manifestation of God's power unto salvation, this is trusting and believing in the death, burial and resurrection of Christ. |
Re: Frosbel Is Highly Questionable by Nobody: 10:25am On Jul 12, 2013 |
[quote author=bizmahn] Presumptous fellow , what makes you say I am not a Christian ? Olodo means dunce, not fool. Besides, you as a so called holy one raised an entire article to slander me , complete with name calling and insults from some of your fanboys in places. What type of Christian are you ? - But the question is , what type of visions was the bible talking about , was it visions of hell and heaven or visions to assist with the work of evangelsim ? Let me help you a little : Zacharias (Luke 1:5-23): God used a vision to tell Zacharias, an old priest, that he would soon have an important son. Not long after, Zacharias and his wife, Elizabeth, had John the Baptist. |
Re: Frosbel Is Highly Questionable by Nobody: 10:25am On Jul 12, 2013 |
@bizmahn, can you kindly show me in the above visions ONE instance which involved a tour of heaven and hell ? SMH at religious people. |
Re: Frosbel Is Highly Questionable by busolayemi: 11:39am On Jul 12, 2013 |
I knew Frosbel is an Heresy preacher....dint just imagine it's dis bad until I stumbled on this thread...What happens to the Rich man and Lazarus....And in hell, he lifted up his eyes....May God help us all...U dnt even believe in the Godhead...u probably dnt believe dat Jesus christ is Lord...and u r a christian Wats d basis of ur christianity....U r worse than a muslim...Cos even muslims believe in hell....Gush! |
Re: Frosbel Is Highly Questionable by Nobody: 11:43am On Jul 12, 2013 |
busolayemi: I knew Frosbel is an Heresy preacher....dint just imagine it's dis bad until I stumbled on this thread...What happens to the Rich man and Lazarus....And in hell, he lifted up his eyes....May God help us all...U dnt even believe in the Godhead...u probably dnt believe dat Jesus christ is Lord...and u r a christian Wats d basis of ur christianity....U r worse than a muslim...Cos even muslims believe in hell....Gush! The Rich Man and Lazarus was a parable. |
Re: Frosbel Is Highly Questionable by busolayemi: 12:39pm On Jul 12, 2013 |
Told by who D tin about u is dat u hold so much hatred towards deeper life and apostolic faith that all u do now is to look for a way to counter everytin they tot u thereby countering God's word in d process....my dear, Heaven and earth shall pass away, a drop of God's word wnt God unfulfilled...free ur heart from hatred....read d bible ursef...free ur heart from doctrines but stil kno especially the fundamentals of your faith....d way ur going...I pity ur soul....I'm praying for u cos we both av sumtin in comon....we left deeper life last year frosbel: |
Re: Frosbel Is Highly Questionable by sheniqua: 3:30pm On Jul 12, 2013 |
I read through this whole thread and my heart was grieved exceedingly. My dear Frosbel,take a deep breathe and rethink. I say all this with a heart of love and great concern Be careful that you don't become a stumbling block to others by the words you say Remember that if you profess to be a teacher,you will face a worse punishment if you lead people to err Nobody ever gets convicted by legalism Legalism will only make people philosophers and argumentative not true genuine converts. Who are you fighting,Frosbel? Christ? The Church? If the gospel you preach is not aimed at converting unbelievers to the Grace of God or build up the body but to cause a division in the body of Christ,my dear,it cannot be of God You have denied the the existence of a triune God,you have denied the place of eternal damnation,you have denied that God speaks to his people in visions and dreams Now let me tell you my own vision of heaven sometime around 2007,on this same bed that I lay typing this. I was asleep and all of a sudden found myself in a big gathering listening to the most amazing choir ever heard.all around were angels and people singing along.the Arch angel that led the choir was a big black man and as he touched a staff on the words on the board before him,musical notes and music flowed from that action.I didn't see harps or guitars or cymbals being played ,I only heard the melody that seemed to come out of nowhere but the singing from this gathering was just awesome Writing this down and recalling that scene puts me back in the presence of God I witnessed that day. I sang along with this choir and was deep in awe and reverence when a hand tapped me on my right shoulder and I heard a voice say it is time to go back now Instantly I woke up and saw that I was laying on my bed,the vision had looked so real. I crawled out of bed to my living room( not to wake my hubby up), I fell on my face and worshipped I sang one of the songs I heard and till this day still remember it but has never sung it to anyone . I am not quick to share this story because it could be misunderstood but I decided to do it because of your words. Dear Frosbel,don't you ever ascribe to yourself the complete knowledge of God and His workings You put God in a box by teaching such Our God is too big ,his presence is awesome and in that presence God can manifest himself and do whatever he will,however he wants to do it His ways are not our ways and he is far beyond our comprehension if not he wouldn't be God, It is good to study ,it is scriptural to study and show ourselves approved but any study that is not Holy Spirit inspired or runs contrary will lead us no where buy astray. In my early days as a young Christian on campus,I remember a man of God I respect so much Gbile Akanni There is a phrase I learned from him and still remember till this day and I want to plead that you consider it It goes this way [size=18pt] If it is new,it is not true If it is true,it is not new[/size] God bless us all and lead us and find us in his will. Love is the more excellent way |
Re: Frosbel Is Highly Questionable by Nobody: 3:33pm On Jul 12, 2013 |
^^^ 1. I believe in ONE GOD like Jesus did. 2. I believe Jesus is the Son of GOD and Messiah 3. I believe that the wages of SIN is death and the gift of GOD is eternal life through Jesus Christ. 4. I believe Christians have dreams and visions but these MUST line up with the word of GOD. I have had a dream/vision of the end of the world myself , but it contained no tours of heaven and hell or messages for the church, it was a revelation of revelation and the coming of Christ. 5. The rest is religion. Thanks Bro. |
Re: Frosbel Is Highly Questionable by Image123(m): 4:07pm On Jul 12, 2013 |
sheniqua: I read through this whole thread and my heart was grieved exceedingly.It is finished. |
Re: Frosbel Is Highly Questionable by Nobody: 4:12pm On Jul 12, 2013 |
Image123: Is the tithe also finished Image123. 1 Like |
Re: Frosbel Is Highly Questionable by Nobody: 5:04pm On Jul 12, 2013 |
frosbel:Every thing. |
Re: Frosbel Is Highly Questionable by OLAADEGBU(m): 6:12pm On Jul 12, 2013 |
sheniqua: We thank God that you've now realised that you've been backing the wrong horse all along. |
Re: Frosbel Is Highly Questionable by Nobody: 6:39pm On Jul 12, 2013 |
^^^ i expect u to jumg on it since u like visions more than the bible |
Re: Frosbel Is Highly Questionable by lagerwhenindoubt(m): 7:14pm On Jul 12, 2013 |
OLAADEGBU: @OLAADEGBU, time permitting I wish for us to discuss Visions and Dreams in the light of the New Testament. 1: How relevant are they in the course of a Christian's Life 2: Should Visions/Dreams necessarily agree with the Word of God? 3: Visions/Dreams often grant the seer/dreamer Authority (from God presumably), how does one validate such Authority |
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