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Re: Who Are These Yorubas? by googi: 4:59pm On Dec 26, 2018
I do not want to incite hatred against those that conquered Africa but we refused to learn that Bible and Koran stories are domination tools as a blueprint for the rest of the world to follow.

Any deviation from it is "uncivilized", so African with our huge complex fall in line and model our culture according to theirs.

This discussion, fight or argument between Egypt and Hebrew is embarrassing to say the least. It is not about the DNA, the first language, culture and people that come from Africa but the other way round.

The atrocities committed against the natives from Americas, Asia and Africa to enforce these have faded in the minds and brains of the victims. No wonder they cry against China for persecuting foreign religions which ironically can never measure up to their lynching and collateral damages still perpetrated as smart bombs today.

So what is new about their new elected leaderships voted for by over 80% of their highly religious RAS lot?
Re: Who Are These Yorubas? by lx3as(m): 6:17pm On Dec 26, 2018
Olu317:
No sir, they are not because :

1. The Egyptians didn't exhume the dead but only Yoruba and Hebrew.

2. Egyptians mummified their kings,unlike Yoruba and old Hebrew that don't mummify

3.The Egyptians had an image of God with a man as havingbram's horn unlike Yoruba and Hebrew who had a formless God

4.The Egyptians do not wear caps like rabbi's cap unlike Yoruba and Hebrew

5. Egyptians do not pour water on the feet of a bride about entering her husband's home unlike Yoruba and Hebrew.

6. The Egyptians have no culture which make the younger ones prostrate to older man as a form of salutation as Yorubas did and do and old Hebrew did .

As you can see Yoruba aren't Egyptians but lived in that land while traveling through down to the forest zone in West Africa. In fact, go verify what was ‘one(1)' called in old Hebrew.



Cheers.

Also in marriage, the Yorubas and people in Canaan, the Hebrew, shared the same marriage tradition, Genesis 28. Jacob was given Leah instead of Rachael.
Even up till now some traditional marriages still take place in the night and fake wife to be is still presented by the woman's family for the husband to pick his real wife from. In the ancient time, one could actually be given another woman since the husband would go in to the woman at night in the dark, according to some oral tradition in my family.

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Re: Who Are These Yorubas? by lawani: 8:36pm On Dec 26, 2018
When the hebrews escaped from Egypt they were speaking kemitic egyptian but in Canaan they lost that language to a semitic tongue. We are speaking kemitic egyptian today and we got it from egyptians not hebrews. When the Egyptian empire fell, the Egyptians trekked down here
Re: Who Are These Yorubas? by Olu317(m): 4:00am On Dec 27, 2018
bluke:


u said no but gave a more detailed analysis of what i said.
oduduwas presence changed the language fro which other ethnic groups got theirs, pls do away with this linguistics issue.
the ugbo of ondo were from old, are u saying they speak like other yoruba groups.?



I never said , Oduduwa and followers were not migrants but clearly state that Ugbo were the first set of migrants with no kingly status but council of leaders, spiritualists, Herbalists,warriors etc from which one is appointed as head, even if there is sensationalism by different writers to present ILEIFE as very organized which was not true before the arrival of the new people who were educated in the ancient scientific knowledge. And at the arrival of Ooni, (a title existed before Yoruba land in Nigeria) ,through descending via Ora Hill in today's Yoruba Land in Nigeria) . These new people settled down in the midst of the older settlement and a Priest-King emerged.

And on the language, what I am saying is that their language were related and prototype even if there were modification via accents. The Oyo was a later formed kingdom,
Re: Who Are These Yorubas? by Olu317(m): 4:16am On Dec 27, 2018
lawani:
When the hebrews escaped from Egypt they were speaking kemitic egyptian but in Canaan they lost that language to a semitic tongue. We are speaking kemitic egyptian today and we got it from egyptians not hebrews. When the Egyptian empire fell, the Egyptians trekked down here


1. If you claim we speak Kemitic, why is Orun(Sun) not in Kemitic lexicon but presence in both Yoruba and early Hebrew? And Yoruba of today still held strongly to many Hebrew words

2. Why is ba not in Kemitic lexicon but appeared in both Yoruba and Early Hebrew?

3.Why is Yoruba sculpture classified as Middle East. origin?

4. Why is the Ooni sculpture holding a ram's horn and not present in Kemitic world?

5. Why is Opa Oranmiyan not Kemitic hieroglyphs but Early Hebrew alphabet called Resh/Reish and Yod/Yud?

6. Have you read that Bantu parted away from Yoruba over 87,000 years ago on genetic study?



Bro, it s not about being distinct from rest Africans but Who were the ancestors of the Yorubas which has always been the puzzle. Lastly verify my question very well with evidence nd not opinion to counter them all.



Cheers
Re: Who Are These Yorubas? by Olu317(m): 4:41am On Dec 27, 2018
googi:
I do not want to incite hatred against those that conquered Africa but we refused to learn that Bible and Koran stories are domination tools as a blueprint for the rest of the world to follow.

Any deviation from it is "uncivilized", so African with our huge complex fall in line and model our culture according to theirs.

This discussion, fight or argument between Egypt and Hebrew is embarrassing to say the least. It is not about the DNA, the first language, culture and people that come from Africa but the other way round.

The atrocities committed against the natives from Americas, Asia and Africa to enforce these have faded in the minds and brains of the victims. No wonder they cry against China for persecuting foreign religions which ironically can never measure up to their lynching and collateral damages still perpetrated as smart bombs today.

So what is new about their new elected leaderships voted for by over 80% of their highly religious RAS lot?



The greatest misdeed of many of us is simply classification of all, the new slogans of white people. So ,it is unfair to lump people who desire to rule over others for selfish reason and religious reasons and those who want to guide the world through their knowledge of one God,which is by a choice. Clearly, if you don't now this, the tradition of rituals, Masha, Ameyn etc are all Yorubas. It is unfortunate that the Assyrians and Persians are the one teaching us our history and reconstruction of our language..This is where we've missed it .


Contrary to your believe, the Hebrew at no point fought for selfish reason nor the Yorubas but survival of the fittest. And before such fight is embarked upon, Ephod — IFA is consulted . And as at today, the Hebrew don't control the world but the Assyrians, Romans, Persians. In fact, the hebrew hid their religious knowledge until Jesus directed the Hebrew to preach the knowledge of one God. Kindly verify before you condemn everyone. Do you know the Hebrews were the most killed and oppressed ethnic Race? Do you also know Britain is an Assyrian kingdom? Kindly do research on it

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Re: Who Are These Yorubas? by lawani: 11:05am On Dec 27, 2018
Olu317:



1. If you claim we speak Kemitic, why is Orun(Sun) not in Kemitic lexicon but presence in both Yoruba and early Hebrew? And Yoruba of today still held strongly to many Hebrew words

2. Why is ba not in Kemitic lexicon but appeared in both Yoruba and Early Hebrew?

3.Why is Yoruba sculpture classified as Middle East. origin?

4. Why is the Ooni sculpture holding a ram's horn and not present in Kemitic world?

5. Why is Opa Oranmiyan not Kemitic hieroglyphs but Early Hebrew word ?

6. Have you read that Bantu parted away from Yoruba over 87,000 years ago on genetic study?



Bro, it s not about being distinct from rest Africans but Who were the ancestors of the Yorubas which has always been the puzzle. Lastly verify my question very well with evidence nd not opinion to counter them all.

The only

Cheers

but it is clear enough that ancient hebrew is kemitic egyptian, the sun is aten in kemitic egyptian. Since hebrews lived in Egypt 400 years they acquired that language. A pharaoh was named Akhenaten just thesame way people bear akinogun or akinosun nowadays
Re: Who Are These Yorubas? by Olu317(m): 1:27pm On Dec 30, 2018
lawani:
but it is clear enough that ancient hebrew is kemitic egyptian, the sun is aten in kemitic egyptian. Since hebrews lived in Egypt 400 years they acquired that language. A pharaoh was named Akhenaten just thesame way people bear akinogun or akinosun nowadays
I don't think so nor do I agree to such insinuation because the language do look alike but the early Hebrew developed differently with a different God who wasn't a man nor related to any man. The same way Yoruba's Almighty God is and was seen as not a man in any form.

And Akhenetan's meaning may not necessarily mean the same as the early Hebrews or Yoruba's Akinogun or Akinitan because cognate of such is called False Cognate, being the reason that they sound alike but different in meaning. In fact , Aki/Akim is an old Semitic name which is said to mean ,‘hero' and not only related to Egyptians or Kemitic meaning.
Re: Who Are These Yorubas? by googi: 3:01am On Jan 02
Olu17,

Do you think the Hebrew pay attention or care one bit about Yoruba reorientation into Hebrew or Arabs for that matter.

They just see Yoruba and Igbo fighting of who is more Jewish as wannabes because of their success.

In the case of the piety you attributed to Hebrew, neither the Africans in Israel or Palestine would agree with you. Not even people like the wife of Tony Blair in Europe and America.

Indeed, it is such piety in the face of their attrocities that keep Africans down.

Do you know the capital of "organ transplant"
market locally known as rituals in Nigeria?


Olu317:




The greatest misdeed of many of us is simply classification of all, the new slogans of white people. So ,it is unfair to lump people who desire to rule over others for selfish reason and religious reasons and those who want to guide the world through their knowledge of one God,which is by a choice. Clearly, if you don't now this, the tradition of rituals, Masha, Ameyn etc are all Yorubas. It is unfortunate that the Assyrians and Persians are the one teaching us our history and reconstruction of our language..This is where we've missed it .


Contrary to your believe, the Hebrew at no point fought for selfish reason nor the Yorubas but survival of the fittest. And before such fight is embarked upon, Ephod — IFA is consulted . And as at today, the Hebrew don't control the world but the Assyrians, Romans, Persians. In fact, the hebrew hid their religious knowledge until Jesus directed the Hebrew to preach the knowledge of one God. Kindly verify before you condemn everyone. Do you know the Hebrews were the most killed and oppressed ethnic Race? Do you also know Britain is an Assyrian kingdom? Kindly do research on it

Re: Who Are These Yorubas? by Olu317(m): 9:53pm On Jan 02
googi:
Olu17,

Do you think the Hebrew pay attention or care one bit about Yoruba reorientation into Hebrew or Arabs for that matter.

They just see Yoruba and Igbo fighting of who is more Jewish as wannabes because of their success.

In the case of the piety you attributed to Hebrew, neither the Africans in Israel or Palestine would agree with you. Not even people like the wife of Tony Blair in Europe and America.

Indeed, it is such piety in the face of their attrocities that keep Africans down.

Do you know the capital of "organ transplant"
market locally known as rituals in Nigeria?



First, Yes, because we alI know the Israelis care about seeking out the darkskin Hebrews before being reoriented and assimilated into the larger family of the Abraham Race as it has been written in, ‘ Isaiah 11:11 (The Israel Bible) And it shall come to pass in that day, that the Lord will set His hand again the second time to recover the remnant of His people, that shall remain from Ashur, and from Mitzrayim, and from Pathros, and from Cush, and from Elam, and from Shinar, and from Hamath, and from the islands of the sea.'

But the Yoruba won't accept such assimilation unless the Israelis accept the information as regard part of the linguistic, Ifa-Ephod,etc before the unification of the Race. I know this because the modern day Israelis are looking for the opportunity to really verify any inscription in Africa or anywhere else which is inspired by Early-Hebrew related alphabets or writing.

If you remember vividly, the Ibo stock of Eastern Nigeria were visited not too long ago because some scholars of Ibos and other sympathisers claimed that Ibos were descendants of Eri or Nri,which has been properly identified as Eri by Hebrew linguists. Unfortunately, the Hebrew linguists found no Semitic or early Hebrew inscription in INSIBIDI writing nor in Iboland,even with the so called sign of David was rendered as no good evidence to proof their claim.

The most interesting aspect of this research is that the dna was not the basis for the visitation by the Israelis researchers but inscription of early Hebrews if they, ‘part of the lost tribe of Israel really existed in Eastern Nigeria but yet to be found. Perhaps, Ibos will make a good case if they have such within their grip.

On Yoruba case, this is what was said of Opa Oranmiyan by Ayinla Ogun whom you probably know as the Reverend Samuel Johnson, the author of the seminal The History of the Yorubas , described the curious arrangement:

“The nails are arranged in such an ordered manner as to render them significant. First, there are 61 in a straight line from the bottom upwards at interval of about 2 inches on either side in midline; and next, at about a distance of 4 inches on either side of this, and from the same level on top, two parallel lines of 31 of the midline. Then in the space between these three rows of parallel lines, and about the level where they converge, is found the most conspicuous of the carvings...”

The Opa was carved of granite gneiss. That’s the first mystery. Obviously Oranmiyan and other yoruba ancestors had technological knowledge before they could carve the structure out of granite. Infact, the European explorers who examined the Opa were of the opinion that it could have been made in the first millennium C. E.

Unlike Egyptian obelisk, the Yoruba obelisk Oranmiyan lacks a pyramidion – the g electrum at the top of an Egyptian pyramid it has a unique design. Dennett in 1910 “Near the centre of the pillar a horn and axe are carved. Above these figures forty-five c headed nails in three rows had been drive the stone, on one side of it ten, and on the other side is eight, while below twenty of these curious still remain.”

Johnson however writes:

… it tapers to a point, and has upon one face several spike nails driven into it, and carvings as of ancient characters. The nail arranged in such an ordered manner as to them significant. First, there are 61 in a straight line from the bottom upwards at intervals of 2 inches in midline; and next, at about a distance of 4 inches on either side of this, and from same level on top, two parallel lines of 31 each running downwards and curving bel meet those of the midline. Then in the between these three rows of parallel line about the level where they converge, is found most conspicuous of the carvings.

Fatunbi, commenting on the Oranmiyan obelisk writes, “There is the image of a trident made iron spikes on the obelisk,” but Williams and their 1998 article do not pay much attention to the nail design on the obelisk, they just write one side of the staff are some faded carving in explicably there are some nails driven into it and it is glaring that there are discrepancies in observations of Dennett and Johnson Oranmiyan obelisk. The total numbers of nails seen on Oranmiyan obelisk by both of them do not tally apart from fact that where Dennett sees “horn and Johnson sees “ancient characters”- Resh Yod. The fact that one sees horn and axe the other sees “ancient characters” does mean that the characters engraved on the Opa Oranmiyan are not hieroglyphs – but Resh and Yod. Commenting on one of the characteristics of hieroglyph writings Siculus writes:

“Now it is found that the forms of their take the shape of animals of every kind, the members of the human body, a implements and especially carpenters’ tool their writing does not express the int concept by means of syllables joined to another, but by means of the significance objects which have been copied and figurative meaning which has been improve upon the memory by practice. “


I am sure you know the yorubas were not Egyptians as some people thought on this forum because unlike Egyptian obelisk, the Yoruba obelisk of Oranmiyan lacks a pyramidion – the g electrum at the top of an Egyptian pyramid has a unique design Dennett in 1910.

Slideboom in 2011 notes that around 300 the ancient Egyptians had ways to write numbers. They made one vertical line for on vertical lines for two, and so on up to nin ten, the Egyptians made a U-shaped mark 100, the Egyptians drew a coil of rope, a 1000 they drew a lotus flower. They used as to show 10,000. In the Oranyan obelisk, the shaped for ten and the double U-shaped for twenty are not shown while Resh and Y shown on the obelisk.

I am sure you know that the Semitic - Hebrew were the one known with ‘Resh and Yod' in the early years because the alphabets were discovered in 1905.


Secondly, the Yorubas have not fought over being identified as Hebrews with Ibos at any time because our history and tradition aren't linked together as some people always think on this forum.

Thirdly,kindly pay no attention to whatever any one think or say either in Europe or Tony Blair's wife as such opinion dies a natural because archaeological, historical account point to the Black Jews as being Real . Beside the old testament made mentioned of these things and the commandment was to bring these people back as part of the Israelis,who had been dispersed or migrated to different part of the world before and after 500BC



Cheers

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Re: Who Are These Yorubas? by want2knowben: 6:05pm On Jan 03
Olu317:


If one vowelize Hebrew root word, does not necessarily give you a Yoruba meaning but to vowelize the Yoruba alphabet's makes it more intriguing. Take for instance, there is an ancient Hebrew word called Reish/Resh is represented by a picture of a ‘HEAD'. This head is represented with one of the alphabet which is Hebrew letter “ ר " for "resh", and letter “ R" in English alphabet. Its comparison with its Yoruba's interpretation of letter, ‘R' as Ri— and understanding its evolution to ‘ORI', is beautiful to behold ........

You vowelise not the root word but the root consonants, and that is what you did in your example. Paleo Hebrew is all consonants (represented by hieroglyphics), and so was arabic until the 8th Century.
Re: Who Are These Yorubas? by want2knowben: 6:25pm On Jan 03
brodalokie:


The word Ile-Ife is coined from Life. All races or languages have one and the same source. The English language as we have it today is a combination of many other languages so you can get what you are looking for. Read genesis 6.

If 'Ile-ife' and 'life' have any correlation, 'Life' would be from 'Ile-Ife' as the the Yoruba language is some 1500 years older than English.
Re: Who Are These Yorubas? by want2knowben: 8:02pm On Jan 03
ImperialYoruba:

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There is nothing in indigenous land or its language called ABURO. It does not belong in the lexicon of the Niger-Congo family of languages. Same thing with AKOBI.

The narrators said Isaac (Aisaku) and Rebekah had fraternal twin sons Esau and Jacob. Esau was older and Jacob was younger but through some cunning Jacob cheated Esau and took the blessings reserved for the first born.

In essence what they are saying is customarily in that land first born sons are entitled to a spiritual rite, sort of a pass of the baton through the generations. The ritual involve placing of hand to anoint the son and invoke a praise for him. Beyond this spiritual practice a material practice also exist where after death the posessions and estate of the father is shared out and the first son has a first priority and largest share of that inheritance.

So Jacob cheated Esau out of both. It was possible with the treachery of the mother in favor of Jacob against Esau and the father, because in essence the father was also cheated in the act.

Ok. Now, check this out Alaye mi, they said Esau was red. grin grin

So what color was Jacob? In fact what color were their parents?

Thats the first tease. grin


Amongst light skin people red does not stand out as a distinct aberration. The white skin will call a red person tanned or dark...but never red!

It is only amongst dark skin that red stand out in contrast and will become a attribute or feature for identity.

Alaye mi, am i lying? grin


So Aisaku and his wife Rebecah were dark skinned, so was Jacob.


Jacob had a different name at birth. Jacob was a later acquisition post his successful deception. That birth name is lost.

At the cross-blessing where father placed hand on his head, AB-URo, the younger transposed to become firstborn or AKOBI and with that he acquired a new title and name....JAKOBI.

In fact later in life he acquired a new name and title and changed from Jacobi to ISRAEL (Asaraelu).

Another variation of spelling is Yakob. Jacob becomes Yakobi.


The transposition became a new custom and tradition to pass blessings to twins amongst the generations.

Hence in twin birth the Aburo becomes Akobi. Even though we clearly identify the chronology of birth as a time marker for Kehinde (the late arrival) we still stick with our ancient custom of giving Kehinde his entitlement and bring Taye behind him as Aburo.
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Interesting! Vowelising the Paleo Hebrew consonant root for 'Jacob' yields 'oYaaKWoBi' which when 'iparoje' (contraction) is applied will be shortened as 'Yakobi' giving us how the modern 'Jacobi' came about. I believe his 'akosejaye' gave birth to his name; Rebecah went to 'enquire of the Lord' about the babies struggling in her womb and was told what would happen. Jacob living true to his name took the birthright clean off the 'akobi' (Esau), making him one 'who surpassed/overtook the firstborn' (oYaaKWoBi).
Re: Who Are These Yorubas? by want2knowben: 9:20pm On Jan 03
Olu317:


He is referencing Greek world —Egyptian's worldview that Yoruba subdued their knowledge with Yoruba's Wisdom.

Example is found in the struggled translated Ancient Hebrew alphabets by western researcher: qol; voice,sound — Yoruba's ko; voice,sound

More simplified example in Yoruba language: Ko-Orin (sing a song/ voice a song)

grin grin grin Dem try o! They've kept the search alive all this while ....
Re: Who Are These Yorubas? by want2knowben: 9:43pm On Jan 03
ImperialYoruba:

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I will show you much much much much much much later how Yoruba taught Arab what they knew. The scriptures of Old Testament, Proverbs in New Testament....these are all records about Yorubas genealogy and customs.


Yoruba, the most Superior race on earth.

If you haven't already posted this, I would really love to know your thoughts on the 'Yoruba - Arab', as most scholarly work available only tend to do it the other way round. I actually think 'ancient' Arabic is a Yoruba dialect (investigations continuing on this) possibly hijacked somewhere along the line, just like 'modern Hebrew'. I already know the Old Testament is written in Yoruba's ancient script a.k.a Paleo Hebrew.

Happy New Year!
Re: Who Are These Yorubas? by want2knowben: 12:36am On Jan 04
Olu317:


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[b]
The British explorers knew that the Yoruba were Hebrew, but they kept mute because, there was miss in the link of Yoruba history. [/b]And the missing part of the history is what the historians,archeologists,linguistics are looking for to seal this Yorubas connection. Clearly, the liars or the ignorant amongst Yoruba are the ones denouncing this claims. The Oranmiyan hieroglyph/pictograph is an Hebrew inscription, which is the reason I will make my instructor to interpret it unless it is not it is not an Hebrew written word. In fact, it is the simplest interpretation by the grace of God

grin grin They know more than they are letting on.
Re: Who Are These Yorubas? by Olu317(m): 8:26pm On Jan 05
want2knowben:


You vowelise not the root word but the root consonants, and that is what you did in your example. Paleo Hebrew is all consonants (represented by hieroglyphics), and so was arabic until the 8th Century.

I don't nor did I vowelize early Hebrew oooo but use root word and translated meaning by western researchers that I used to match Yoruba words. So, it is different from your pattern. This also lead to my assertion

Plainly, the man Jacob(aqeb) was not the first child that came out of first among the twin but an Usurper when deceived his father through his mother when the blessing was placed on him wrongly ; He that overthrew the first to be recognised as the first.This changed between Esau and Akob-Aqeb. Although the word akobakob-Aqeb-Yakob stuck in a reversal way of saying it,according to early Hebrew linguists. This however didn't change the status of other first Born in the history of Ivri(Ibri)-Hebrew .




Cheers

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Re: Who Are These Yorubas? by ImperialYoruba: 4:53am On Jan 06
want2knowben:


If you haven't already posted this, I would really love to know your thoughts on the 'Yoruba - Arab', as most scholarly work available only tend to do it the other way round. I actually think 'ancient' Arabic is a Yoruba dialect (investigations continuing on this) possibly hijacked somewhere along the line, just like 'modern Hebrew'. I already know the Old Testament is written in Yoruba's ancient script a.k.a Paleo Hebrew.

Happy New Year!

Ole ni larubawa, olosha! grin. They are not original. Yoruba is the authentic Arab. Anyother race of people calling itself Arab is a mimick of the original, Yoruba!

Check this out...if I tell you the connection between Yoruba and Arab ehhn, you go sh.it for your trouser by time Im done. grin

You must not know who Yoruba is. grin


Yoruba, the most Superior race on earth!

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Re: Who Are These Yorubas? by jupiterx(m): 11:55am On Jan 06
ImperialYoruba:


Alaye mi, Iba o. Aa jo yin o. Aa to yin ba sir.

There is nothing new under the sun, but there are plenty things hidden from mankind. Somethings must not be shared because they can endager mind and corrupt thoughts. So in their wisdom our ancestors tuck knowledge into words and encrypt them with a different code to hide its true nature. They know it will be found. In fact they want it to be found, but by those deserving. ObalufonIII and macof can never get me to talk about this, ill just yab dem, but because na you I go talk. grin grin

There is nothing in indigenous land or its language called ABURO. It does not belong in the lexicon of the Niger-Congo family of languages. Same thing with AKOBI. They are both foreign terms to narrate an ancient custom brought with the Yorubas from their ancient foreign homeland.

Before i continue let me give you a brain teaser. grin

The narrators said Isaac (Aisaku) and Rebekah had fraternal twin sons Esau and Jacob. Esau was older and Jacob was younger but through some cunning Jacob cheated Esau and took the blessings reserved for the first born.

In essence what they are saying is customarily in that land first born sons are entitled to a spiritual rite, sort of a pass of the baton through the generations. The ritual involve placing of hand to anoint the son and invoke a praise for him. Beyond this spiritual practice a material practice also exist where after death the posessions and estate of the father is shared out and the first son has a first priority and largest share of that inheritance.

So Jacob cheated Esau out of both. It was possible with the treachery of the mother in favor of Jacob against Esau and the father, because in essence the father was also cheated in the act.

Ok. Now, check this out Alaye mi, they said Esau was red. grin grin

So what color was Jacob? In fact what color were their parents?

Thats the first tease. grin


Amongst light skin people red does not stand out as a distinct aberration. The white skin will call a red person tanned or dark...but never red!

It is only amongst dark skin that red stand out in contrast and will become a attribute or feature for identity.

Alaye mi, am i lying? grin


So Aisaku and his wife Rebecah were dark skinned, so was Jacob.


Jacob had a different name at birth. Jacob was a later acquisition post his successful deception. That birth name is lost.

At the cross-blessing where father placed hand on his head, AB-URo, the younger transposed to become firstborn or AKOBI and with that he acquired a new title and name....JAKOBI.

In fact later in life he acquired a new name and title and changed from Jacobi to ISRAEL (Asaraelu).

Another variation of spelling is Yakob. Jacob becomes Yakobi.


The transposition became a new custom and tradition to pass blessings to twins amongst the generations.

Hence in twin birth the Aburo becomes Akobi. Even though we clearly identify the chronology of birth as a time marker for Kehinde (the late arrival) we still stick with our ancient custom of giving Kehinde his entitlement and bring Taye behind him as Aburo.

Here is the next brain teaser. Are you game? grin


Our ancestors encrypted this knowledge tactically.

The first letter Y in YAKOBI is a distraction. Take it out and leave him as AKOBI, period.

Now move that Y and glue to ABURO to make ABUROY.

Now spell it backward to get YORUBA.

The dark skinned Aisiku, Rebekah, ati awon Ibeji...Esau and Akobi were YORUBAS.

This is not their tradition that got screwed up...no, the tradition and custom of their fore fathers was given a new meaning with twin births.

Check this out Alaye mi....

Akobi gained new gnomen and became Asaraelu (Israel). This is the father and ancestor of what we now know as Children of Israel.

Children of Israel came out of a Yoruba ancestry.

Alaye mi, make I digress small, I cant let this pass for nothing. grin

To all yanninrin jews reading this, Yoruba is your father. You must bow down and worship Yoruba. Yeye people. grin


Ok...that feels good! grin grin grin grin


So like i was saying before Ibo people distracted my attention, Israel repeated this act with his grandchildren from Joseph.

Manaseh (Alase) is older but (Asaraelu) cross-blessed the younger Ephraim (Efaremi) with entitlement reserved for first born. Their father, Joseph (Osiefa), was present and in shock reacted and asked if their grandfather was confused to have done that. In other words, Joseph knew what the custom and tradition of the race is and this new one introduced by his father diverted from the ways of the ancestors. That new ways became ordained and a practice followed down. Even the Canaan custom that predated Jacob also yielded to the new custom and is why in Yoruba custom till today the cross-blessing is found only in twin births. Ordinary siblings retain their chronology order and entitlements in place. No change, as was the custom traced back to the father of Yorubas, Noah (Luwa).



Mind blown bros, mind blown

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Re: Who Are These Yorubas? by KingSango(m): 2:10pm On Jan 06
bluke:
A lot of the anthologies about the story of mankind being bandied around in the global mass media are fraudulent and tools of confusion. Most are based on bible data like the Table of Nations which has details that are incongruous and twisted to favour oyinbo protagonists. It is therefore a begotten fraud which should not be completely discarded but the truth sifted from the lies in line with the African saying, “do not throw the baby away with the bath water”. But these lies have also been propagated by Africans who have also been doing same to themselves. The Ifa literary corpus and other oral records of the Aku can be used to achieve this filtering. Some results of using this filter are that not everyone on earth descended from the same father or mother, which implies that not everyone’s Y-chromosome and mitochondrial DNA have been inherited from a single man or woman respectively; and that a lot of the anthologies of various ancient peoples which have been based on the bible book of Genesis have to be reviewed entirely, and that the bible and other anthologies derived from it are schizoid tools used by certain groups for supremacist aims. The most important is that the Akus possess the actual data that all peoples of various fields can use to piece together the story of mankind.


in my opinion, omo yoruba ronu. everything was taken from us, repackaged and given back to us.



It's the woolly haired African all over the planet that is the sons of God. Other straight haired, Caucasians, Asians and Indians came from recent man mixing with animal to form human hybrid.


Yoruba is not the original only one of the root bloodlines that ruled over the African. Africa is the birth place of the African, all our sacred knowledge and traditions are contained by societies in Africa ruled by royal families. Oduduwa came from the East as did many Africans when the Nile civilization crumbled. 12th century it's Mamluks ruling in Egypt and Middle East. These were sodomite soldiers raised as Christians are like the Islamic were intolerant to African philosophy which Prince Oduduwa taught.

Filter out the bias towards Yoruba or any Nigerian ethnic group or religious thought because alot has changed in these many centuries.
Re: Who Are These Yorubas? by ImperialYoruba: 3:03pm On Jan 06
bluke:
A lot of the anthologies about the story of mankind being bandied around in the global mass media are fraudulent and tools of confusion. Most are based on bible data like the Table of Nations which has details that are incongruous and twisted to favour oyinbo protagonists. It is therefore a begotten fraud which should not be completely discarded but the truth sifted from the lies in line with the African saying, “do not throw the baby away with the bath water”. But these lies have also been propagated by Africans who have also been doing same to themselves. The Ifa literary corpus and other oral records of the Aku can be used to achieve this filtering. Some results of using this filter are that not everyone on earth descended from the same father or mother, which implies that not everyone’s Y-chromosome and mitochondrial DNA have been inherited from a single man or woman respectively; and that a lot of the anthologies of various ancient peoples which have been based on the bible book of Genesis have to be reviewed entirely, and that the bible and other anthologies derived from it are schizoid tools used by certain groups for supremacist aims. The most important is that the Akus possess the actual data that all peoples of various fields can use to piece together the story of mankind.


in my opinion, omo yoruba ronu. everything was taken from us, repackaged and given back to us.

grin grin grin
If my sister was still single, this single post alone is enough for me to give her to you as wife.

You are the best!

Macof, come and learn from people who truly know Yoruba. Is not every person born as Yoruba that know Yoruba. This guy, bluke, know Yoruba. grin. You think because you are born in Ife you know Yoruba. Mttchheew...i pity you. grin grin


Yoruba, the most Superior race on earth!

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Re: Who Are These Yorubas? by ImperialYoruba: 3:05pm On Jan 06
KingSango:




It's the woolly haired African all over the planet that is the sons of God. Other straight haired, Caucasians, Asians and Indians came from recent man mixing with animal to form human hybrid.


Yoruba is not the original only one of the root bloodlines that ruled over the African. Africa is the birth place of the African, all our sacred knowledge and traditions are contained by societies in Africa ruled by royal families. Oduduwa came from the East as did many Africans when the Nile civilization crumbled. 12th century it's Mamluks ruling in Egypt and Middle East. These were sodomite soldiers raised as Christians are like the Islamic were intolerant to African philosophy which Prince Oduduwa taught.

Filter out the bias towards Yoruba or any Nigerian ethnic group or religious thought because alot has changed in these many centuries.

Yoruba, the most Superior race on earth!
Re: Who Are These Yorubas? by bluke(m): 5:48pm On Jan 06
ImperialYoruba:


Yoruba, the most Superior race on earth!




Do the Yorubas who presently live in Western Nigeria have a different
origin from other Negroes ? Certain evolutionary developments have been
observed in Yorubas which are not taking place in other black Africans.
These developments include mutations in genes controlling mannose, and
hair formation and patterning (Keratin cluster near 17q12 and FLD6). Apart
from this, it had long been noticed that the Yorubas have the highest incidence
of dizygotic twins among all the people of the earth (2). As if these were not
enough, Yorubas suffer from a peculiar type of sickle cell trait, different from
the type of sickle cell trait that affects other native Africans (3).
If type of abnormal hemoglobin may be regarded as a proof of the diversity
of mankind, the following information is revealing



There is another striking observation:
Apart from the Western parts of Nigeria
(where Yorubas now reside) hemoglobin C is
also widespread in areas where, according
to local legends, Yorubas once visited. The
Ga people of Ghana, for example, speak a
language which is virtually Yoruba and claim
that they and the Ewe people migrated from
the Yoruba region of Nigeria in the 13th
century (4). Hemoglobin C is very rampant
among the Ga and Ewe people of Ghana and
Togo, but is absent in other Ghanaians.
Hemoglobin C also occurs in Sierra Leone,
a place many liberated Yoruba slaves made
their home in the 1800s (5).
Yorubas have always been a puzzle
among the people of Africa. The first
European explorers who encountered the
Yoruba were perplexed, most notably the
American Baptist Missionary William H.
Clarke. Compared to other African natives
Yorubas were markedly urban, living in
walled cities containing tens of thousands of
inhabitants. At the dawn of the 20th century
the European archaeologist Leo Frobenius
excavated some interesting bronze busts at
Ile Ife, the sacred city of the Yorubas.
Are Yorubas indeed a new branch of the
Negro evolutionary tree or a totally different
species? Undoubtedly, there is a need to
study the Yorubas by scientists to resolve a
riddle in the evolution of the human race.

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Re: Who Are These Yorubas? by bluke(m): 6:26pm On Jan 06
ImperialYoruba:


Yoruba, the most Superior race on earth!



need your input on this pls
ancient hebrew writtings and full pronouciation.

press.
255. “E L KW N H” (elkanah) in ìpìnle Aba-òóré
(ancient Hebrew)
“ELú KWó Ni Há” meaning “lord brought us
forth”
“ELú KWú Ni Há” meaning “lord did own us”
256. “K N H” (hanah) in ìpìnle Aba-òóré (ancient
Hebrew)
“Ká àNúu Ha” meaning “have mercy forth”, “be
gracious forth”.257. “F N N H” (peninnah) in ìpìnle Aba-òóré
(ancient Hebrew)
“Pín-in Ní ìNí Há” meaning “shared as a
possession forth”, precious/lovely procession.
258. “Ṣ L H” (shiloh) in ìpìnle Aba-òóré (ancient
Hebrew)
“aṢe eLú Há” meaning “one who is lord forth”,
“aṢe Lée Há” meaning “one it is made for forth”,
“aṢe ọLá Há” meaning “we did make wealth
forth”.
259. “H KH H N” (priest) in ìpìnle Aba-òóré
(ancient Hebrew)
“Hìí iKHo HọNi” meaning “this representative of
ours”
Or
“Hìí iKHo Ho Nií” meaning “this representative
of one who owns”.260. “Ṣ M W E L” (samuel) in ìpìnle Aba-òóré
(ancient Hebrew)
“aṢáà Múu Wá Èí eLú” meaning “we did brought
him from the lord”.
261. “Ṣ A W L” (saul) in ìpìnle Aba-òóré (ancient
Hebrew)
“Ṣì-Á Wá e Lo ” meaning “did come making
enquiry”.
262. “D W Y D” (david) in ìpìnle abo -òóré
(ancient Hebrew)
“oDù ìWá o Ya e Dá” meaning “cherished
secret/place of existence of overflowing
human”, becomes loved by many people.
“oDù ìWá e Dá” meaning “cherished secret/place
of existence of human”.“oDù ì-V(f)-e e Dá” meaning “cherished
secret/place of enlargement (existence of
overflowing) human”.
“enlargement” is same as “existence of
overflowing”.
263. “Y Ṣ Y” (jesse) in ìpìnle abo -òóré (ancient
Hebrew)
“o Ya/o Je Ṣe àYè” meaning “This/I possess life ”,
“I enjoy life”.
o Je Ṣe àYè silencing the striken words gives Je s e
o Ya and o Je are noun reffers to the object that
overflow; while o Ya and o Je are verbs which
means “it overflows”.
264. “Ṣ L M H” (solomon) in ìpìnle abo -òóré
(ancient Hebrew)“Ṣe ọLá ìMo Há” meaning “did reigns in
knowledge forth”,
“did enjoy richness of knowledge forth”,
“did demonstrate wealth of knowledge forth”.
Another name given to “aṢe-ọLá ìMo Há” by the
God of his father is
“YDYDYH” (Jedidiah)
“èYí e Dá Yọ oDù - o YaHá” meaning “this one
comes from cherished secret of - God”.
When fragmented with Y being silenced;
“~e Dá ~ oDù - o ~aHá” this comes out as “e Dá -
oDù -Há”

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Re: Who Are These Yorubas? by ImperialYoruba: 6:38pm On Jan 06
bluke:





Do the Yorubas who presently live in Western Nigeria have a different
origin from other Negroes ? Certain evolutionary developments have been
observed in Yorubas which are not taking place in other black Africans.
These developments include mutations in genes controlling mannose, and
hair formation and patterning (Keratin cluster near 17q12 and FLD6). Apart
from this, it had long been noticed that the Yorubas have the highest incidence
of dizygotic twins among all the people of the earth (2). As if these were not
enough, Yorubas suffer from a peculiar type of sickle cell trait, different from
the type of sickle cell trait that affects other native Africans (3).
If type of abnormal hemoglobin may be regarded as a proof of the diversity
of mankind, the following information is revealing



There is another striking observation:
Apart from the Western parts of Nigeria
(where Yorubas now reside) hemoglobin C is
also widespread in areas where, according
to local legends, Yorubas once visited. The
Ga people of Ghana, for example, speak a
language which is virtually Yoruba and claim
that they and the Ewe people migrated from
the Yoruba region of Nigeria in the 13th
century (4). Hemoglobin C is very rampant
among the Ga and Ewe people of Ghana and
Togo, but is absent in other Ghanaians.
Hemoglobin C also occurs in Sierra Leone,
a place many liberated Yoruba slaves made
their home in the 1800s (5).
Yorubas have always been a puzzle
among the people of Africa. The first
European explorers who encountered the
Yoruba were perplexed, most notably the
American Baptist Missionary William H.
Clarke. Compared to other African natives
Yorubas were markedly urban, living in
walled cities containing tens of thousands of
inhabitants. At the dawn of the 20th century
the European archaeologist Leo Frobenius
excavated some interesting bronze busts at
Ile Ife, the sacred city of the Yorubas.
Are Yorubas indeed a new branch of the
Negro evolutionary tree or a totally different
species? Undoubtedly, there is a need to
study the Yorubas by scientists to resolve a
riddle in the evolution of the human race.


grin grin
Studies continue but discoveries have been made, many of which is preserved as a body of knowledge for historical accounts, but cannot and must not become applications with which to shock and reverse the hands of the civilization clock which replaced and superseded Yoruba in human history.

Soil has peculiar identities as well. Many of the viruses and diseases that man suffer has attribute to soil type. For instance, tomatoes grow around the world and is same color. It does not grow year round. So for us in Nigeria when tomatoe is out of season in our soil we should also cut it out of our diet for that period. We do not have this understanding of bio-rhythym between body and soil....but we understand perfectly the principle of commerce and income. So traders who hoarded tomatoes will bring them out and put in the supply chain, some will even import them from other places that have supply. So we consume into our body a nutrient that is out of harmony with our nature (the soil) and this end introducing imbalance. This is how allergies and sickness and food poisoning lead to impurities in bloodstream and disease.

This is just one example, there are many many others.

So the blood type and its footprint can be traced to a true match (an origin) in soil type and nativity.

We know if you do dna testing for a family of 10 and you find an outlier, then that outlier cannot be said to be a freak accident caused by the mother's poor diet during pregnancy or the cosmetics she used or whether she wore silk underwear instead of cotton while carrying the baby in her....no, no, no....that would be unacceptable. The outlier's blood gene must be located...it does not belong with the other nine.

So why are people trying to force and squeeze Yoruba into membership of a Niger-Congo dna, inspite of scientific evidence that its gene belong elsewhere?

Its a bias! grin

We will defeat them with our own biases.

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Re: Who Are These Yorubas? by bluke(m): 6:40pm On Jan 06
274. “Y R W Ṣ L M” (jerusalem) in ìpìnle Aba-
òóré (ancient Hebrew).
“o Yọ ìRo Wá ìṢe ọLá ìMo ” meaning “source of
plea for us to have a reign/richess of
knowlegde”, “source of counsels/teachings of
reign/richess of knowlegde”.

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Re: Who Are These Yorubas? by lx3as(m): 6:49pm On Jan 06
bluke:




need your input on this pls
ancient hebrew writtings and full pronouciation.

press.
255. “E L KW N H” (elkanah) in ìpìnle Aba-òóré
(ancient Hebrew)
“ELú KWó Ni Há” meaning “lord brought us
forth”
“ELú KWú Ni Há” meaning “lord did own us”
256. “K N H” (hanah) in ìpìnle Aba-òóré (ancient
Hebrew)
“Ká àNúu Ha” meaning “have mercy forth”, “be
gracious forth”.257. “F N N H” (peninnah) in ìpìnle Aba-òóré
(ancient Hebrew)
“Pín-in Ní ìNí Há” meaning “shared as a
possession forth”, precious/lovely procession.
258. “Ṣ L H” (shiloh) in ìpìnle Aba-òóré (ancient
Hebrew)
“aṢe eLú Há” meaning “one who is lord forth”,
“aṢe Lée Há” meaning “one it is made for forth”,
“aṢe ọLá Há” meaning “we did make wealth
forth”.
259. “H KH H N” (priest) in ìpìnle Aba-òóré
(ancient Hebrew)
“Hìí iKHo HọNi” meaning “this representative of
ours”
Or
“Hìí iKHo Ho Nií” meaning “this representative
of one who owns”.260. “Ṣ M W E L” (samuel) in ìpìnle Aba-òóré
(ancient Hebrew)
“aṢáà Múu Wá Èí eLú” meaning “we did brought
him from the lord”.
261. “Ṣ A W L” (saul) in ìpìnle Aba-òóré (ancient
Hebrew)
“Ṣì-Á Wá e Lo ” meaning “did come making
enquiry”.
262. “D W Y D” (david) in ìpìnle abo -òóré
(ancient Hebrew)
“oDù ìWá o Ya e Dá” meaning “cherished
secret/place of existence of overflowing
human”, becomes loved by many people.
“oDù ìWá e Dá” meaning “cherished secret/place
of existence of human”.“oDù ì-V(f)-e e Dá” meaning “cherished
secret/place of enlargement (existence of
overflowing) human”.
“enlargement” is same as “existence of
overflowing”.
263. “Y Ṣ Y” (jesse) in ìpìnle abo -òóré (ancient
Hebrew)
“o Ya/o Je Ṣe àYè” meaning “This/I possess life ”,
“I enjoy life”.
o Je Ṣe àYè silencing the striken words gives Je s e
o Ya and o Je are noun reffers to the object that
overflow; while o Ya and o Je are verbs which
means “it overflows”.
264. “Ṣ L M H” (solomon) in ìpìnle abo -òóré
(ancient Hebrew)“Ṣe ọLá ìMo Há” meaning “did reigns in
knowledge forth”,
“did enjoy richness of knowledge forth”,
“did demonstrate wealth of knowledge forth”.
Another name given to “aṢe-ọLá ìMo Há” by the
God of his father is
“YDYDYH” (Jedidiah)
“èYí e Dá Yọ oDù - o YaHá” meaning “this one
comes from cherished secret of - God”.
When fragmented with Y being silenced;
“~e Dá ~ oDù - o ~aHá” this comes out as “e Dá -
oDù -Há”

These translations are simply central Yoruba dialect of Ife, Ekiti, Ijesa and to some extent, igbomina

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Re: Who Are These Yorubas? by KingSango(m): 7:07pm On Jan 06
ImperialYoruba:


Yoruba, the most Superior race on earth!


Having pride is one thing and proof is another. grin

Ego can't enter Orun.
Re: Who Are These Yorubas? by ImperialYoruba: 7:23pm On Jan 06
KingSango:



Having pride is one thing and proof is another. grin

Ego can't enter Orun.

grin.

Jews and Christians say the gates of paradise are guarded by Gabriel and Michael. Muslims say by Jabril and Mikail.

The "el" and "il" at the end are distractions caused by difference in tongue, discard them. You will be left with "Gab" or "Jab"; and "Micha" or "Mika". Correct?

Do you know who these people are? If i tell you who they are you will sh.it in your trousers. grin

Yoruba, the most Superior race on earth!

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Re: Who Are These Yorubas? by KingSango(m): 7:31pm On Jan 06
ImperialYoruba:


grin.

Jews and Christians say the gates of paradise are guarded by Gabriel and Michael. Muslims say by Jabril and Mikail.

The "el" and "il" at the end are distractions caused by difference in tongue, discard them. You will be left with "Gab" or "Jab"; and "Micha" or "Mika". Correct?

Do you know who these people are? If i tell you who they are you will sh.it in your trousers. grin

Yoruba, the most Superior race on earth!


Yorubas are Africans?

grin
Re: Who Are These Yorubas? by ImperialYoruba: 7:38pm On Jan 06
KingSango:



Yorubas are Africans?

grin

Who said they are not?
Re: Who Are These Yorubas? by KingSango(m): 7:46pm On Jan 06
ImperialYoruba:


Who said they are not?

Yorubas represent the African race they are not the African race.

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