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Re: Age Requirement Is Unconstitutional by ogaju007(m): 11:14pm On Aug 07, 2013 |
eddiebruk: I agree with you my brother however i wou;dn't say Nigerian Degrees are useless as i think its up to every individual to build on what he/she is taught. I went to uni in Nigeria and i have worked in good companies in UK,US and most places in europe on good projects. Education doesn't stop with just having a degree. People need to start analyzing the market and see where they best fit in with good ROI (Return on Investment). International certifications know no boundaries. I always tell people "don't just wait for and oppurtunity, be ready for it". what we are experiencing in nigeria is called "cert crazy" ignoring experience and vital talent management plan. e.g my former director is an ordinary college graduate (UK) but he became a director after proving himself. i think we will both agree that having a degree is not a sign of competence. |
Re: Age Requirement Is Unconstitutional by jpphilips(m): 6:35am On Aug 10, 2013 |
Lexo22: And the revolution has just started, how? By copying and pasting this article on your Facebook wall, WhatsApping /pinging it to ur contacts by so doing, you have participated in the revolution and I believe they will still pass the information across... then what? 1 Like |
Re: Age Requirement Is Unconstitutional by jpphilips(m): 6:39am On Aug 10, 2013 |
kenjudy: I think first of all, d legal practioners in d house here should start dis war for us to follow. Many jobbers will be afraid to join without proper foundation, as they stand d chance of not been employed as well after d fight or whatever name u chose to give it. If d law takes it up, we can then find a solid ground to stand on. Becos as job seeker, fighting ur supposed employer without proper foundation and hope of winning at last as in a country like naija where anything is possible, u'd be surprised things might get worse after d rally cos dis country has made it clear dat d more money u possess, d more power u weld. Imo tho you wont be employed if u ve exceeded the age limit anyways, so its a win win situation for the victims |
Re: Age Requirement Is Unconstitutional by jpphilips(m): 6:48am On Aug 10, 2013 |
Xzhibit: dis is d typ of bill dat should be presented in d floor of our house proper delibration. bill? when the poster is pointing at an illegality? I tell you what; most job seekers are as ignorant as they come, how do you expect an ignorant man to fight for something. This is the real issue with Nigerian youths. |
Re: Age Requirement Is Unconstitutional by jpphilips(m): 7:03am On Aug 10, 2013 |
lagerwhenindoubt: The Truth is a lot of us made big mistakes early in Life for which we are paying the consequences. exactly my sentiment, you see someone staying at home for 5yrs trying to be admitted in one university his father told him its old generation, meanwhile he is applying for another 5yrs programme. when the reality sets in we begin to hear craps like this. as you make your bed, go lie on it. the employers have spoken its either you do it their way or create your own job. how can someone go to a private university which will cost an ave of half a million per annum for 5yrs a total of 2.5million for a 5yrs course with no relevance in the Nigerian economy? in the end he or she joins the queue of jobless people because even the course itself is a recipe for joblessness, why not go for a 1.5yrs or 2yrs vocational programme and start your own stuff with a capital base of 2.5million, lemme see if you wont be better off than someone who went to covenant to study physical education. 1 Like |
Re: Age Requirement Is Unconstitutional by jpphilips(m): 7:07am On Aug 10, 2013 |
mr_king: We can start by signing a Petition!! Honestly! This madness must stop!! Due to age factors! Jobs like KPMG, PWC, GTB, UAC, ACESS bank, UBA, Zenith, PZ, CADBURYand other firms has eluded me! Nothing can be as horrible as meeting †ђξ full requirements only to be restricted by AGE!! Pls I'm ready to put in M̶̲̥̅γ̲̣̣̥ all for this! What ever it takes! I will be a frontliner of †ђξ protest!!! Even though I finnally got a Job now! That doesn't mean I should remain silent on this! Pls! We need to be united to achieve this! Mods! Pls take this to †ђξ FRONT PAGE!! why dont you start by telling us what you did with the last 10yrs of your life? do you expect everyone to wake up with you because you confused 9am with 9pm? I don't think so 1 Like |
Re: Age Requirement Is Unconstitutional by jpphilips(m): 7:12am On Aug 10, 2013 |
xykms101: Stop spewing rubbish dude, no matter how you prepared yourself for the future in nigeria and you stil have no ladder, believe me there's no how you will get to the top. you are free to take your fight anywhere nobody will stop ya but the moment you become an employer your mindset will change, you start seeing things differently. you think you have a point simply becaus you're the victim here, lol |
Re: Age Requirement Is Unconstitutional by jpphilips(m): 7:21am On Aug 10, 2013 |
P.Stacks: give me 3 reasons why you did not consider ASUU strike when you made your choice of university? ? should we fight for an error in a decision you made? 1 Like |
Re: Age Requirement Is Unconstitutional by jpphilips(m): 7:44am On Aug 10, 2013 |
xykms101: And what exactly are you insinuating? ASUU has been going on strike before ur father grew pubic hairs, you dont have a point. btw, how did jamb collect 2yrs of your life? you wrote jamb as a career and you blame Govt for that? yea yea, I blame the govt too each time I get a hard on. 1 Like |
Re: Age Requirement Is Unconstitutional by jpphilips(m): 8:45am On Aug 10, 2013 |
pappilo: the guy made a post and says the employers see it as valid, for every staff you hire by the same law u referred to, he or she have entitlements, one of which is health benefit. things are hard for not just the employees but for the employer too, what economic challenge do you encounter that a company doesn't? if diesel is selling for 160/l the same price is sold for both the employer and employee. now, 7.5% of your monthly salary is what your employer pay as ur pension then another 7.5% is deducted from you making a total of 15%. as a graduate engineer with no job experience meaning zero productivity how much do you want to be paid? 200k I guess and 7.5% of that sum must be paid multiplied by number of employees. here is a graduate trainee position where you are not yet making money for the employer, he coughs out another 60% of your annual salary to make sure you are fit for the job, studies have shown that an employee's psychological disposition is a function of his productivity. then to be fair, you hire a 35yr old man chances are that he has a family, in other words, his health benefits have increased by another 4people. this is a person who is not making money for you. to bring him up to speed of course the same govt failed to provide training facilities for the employer so he is forced to sponsor you to either Aberdeen or Houston texas at a huge cost with no guarantees cos he can leave at will. now the same employee is entitled to over one month annual leave. at 35, he has blood pressure issues, he has hiv, there are others in his group with Asthma all these are no fault of theirs and to be fair the messiah employer has to carry all. meanwhile out there, there are some people at 25, ten years younger than that man who expect to be hired for equal opportunity reasons, 10yrs within which he will be productive who will you hire? im even suprised its the men that are complaining wot abt the women whose employers tell them when to make babies? will you be pregnant when u re not yet entitled to a maternity leave? abi you will take three month s maternity leave as a trainee? or you take every yr because u re close to menopause? these are the real issues here and I pray that as soon as the govt does something for the employees the employer will be carries along in the spirit of fairness. what about the under paid employees? that is the biggest problem, age and employment criteria are secondary. IM employment? those are the real issues not giving concession to someone who decided to repeat all his classes, write jamb in 9 sittings and expect the world to congratulate them for graduating at 40yrs. 1 Like |
Re: Age Requirement Is Unconstitutional by jpphilips(m): 8:53am On Aug 10, 2013 |
chukwuinya: are we talking about d constitutionality of age limit,if i may ask is there anything done in this country that is within d dictate of our so called constitution?sorry to say this but we must start somewhere probably from here you see how deluded our youths are, they wont vote for a govt that respect the rule of law but they want it to apply to the employers lol. 1 Like |
Re: Age Requirement Is Unconstitutional by sholay2011(m): 9:05am On Aug 10, 2013 |
jp philips:What an insensitive post! |
Re: Age Requirement Is Unconstitutional by jpphilips(m): 9:55am On Aug 10, 2013 |
adconline: at 21 a lot of people are graduates or have defined a career path for themselves, the fact that you went to coma doesnt mean the world went to a pause. 1 Like |
Re: Age Requirement Is Unconstitutional by sholay2011(m): 9:56am On Aug 10, 2013 |
jp philips:What is wrong with this one? Ranting about because he got lucky or fortunate in life? Smh. |
Re: Age Requirement Is Unconstitutional by jpphilips(m): 10:09am On Aug 10, 2013 |
ogaju007: This shows how backward Nigeria is in terms of Human Resources legislation. What has age got to do with your ability to perform? this kind of discrimination does not support nor help the poor. how about people that could only afford to go to uni after 30? Later some people will be comparing Nigeria to UK and US? hmmm i rest my case. if you are opportune to go to uni at 30, then you have made a poor decision unless u ve established a career before then. not every event is an opportunity, uni at 30 is not, 17 it is. |
Re: Age Requirement Is Unconstitutional by jpphilips(m): 10:12am On Aug 10, 2013 |
PHIPEX: The earlier this issue is settled by the court and prohibited the better for Nigerian youths. Months ago I was invited by KPMG for an aptitude test only to be turned back at their gate because according to them they just realised that am a year older than their cut-off age. Even though am out of the group of unemployed youths but many people are still constantly frustrated for reasons that are not of their making. Now ASUU is still making matters worse for our undergraduates tomorrow they will tell you our graduates are unemployable. have you launched a campaign recently to create awareness for senators like Ngige to sit at home? we talk too much in Nigeria 1 Like |
Re: Age Requirement Is Unconstitutional by ogaju007(m): 10:36am On Aug 10, 2013 |
jp philips: @JP Phillips: There is no law that says uni at any age is an opportunity... I do understand ur thoughts might be limited to your immediate environment which is why you feel that way however, my opinion is anybody that has a quest for knowledge can decide to go to UNI when he/she so desires. I can decide at 45 to go and studt Medicine, will that be a bad decision? should i be discriminated against because of my Age? |
Re: Age Requirement Is Unconstitutional by 1forall: 10:51am On Aug 10, 2013 |
Who is this user quoting too many just posts to criticise them? Do you take pleasure in just criticising and indirectly insulting others? I believe you have your own opinion on the topic, why not express that instead? |
Re: Age Requirement Is Unconstitutional by jpphilips(m): 10:56am On Aug 10, 2013 |
bishopjoe02: stop talking nonsense you graduated when you did as a result of the decision you made and the opportunity you have, re you cursing people who are more privileged than you are? must you go to university to make it in life? how many experts in Nigeria have a University degree? did you see messi or samuel etoo in any university? how can you throw away 26yrs of your life and want to be pitied for your error? wen we left sec. my friend's dad told him that he is good at fixing things that he want him to learn automobile mechanic, he refused insisting on mechanical engineering, but when waec result came out, he narrowing passed maths. father made it clear that he cannot waste his education trust fund on someone who wants to be an engineer with poor mathematics, den we were just 17. his dad enrolled him with a 2yrs internship programme with denso in US, these guys are no close to be rich, they spent little for that 2yrs, accommodation provided by the aunt who lives there, tuition free but he cleans and arranges workshop and the company provides his food. Denso at the time has a big contract with Toyota and other car companies so his training was intensive. armed with an automobile competence certificate, he returned to Nigeria at 19yrs. his father used his trust fund to hire his first workshop, by the time we were 25yrs this guy is already a multi millionaire, by the time we left the University he was already invested heavily in real estates, parts importation and auto sales. by 29yrs when we met last he has 6 mechanical engineers on his payroll and an expert. a lot of people have similar stories the problem with our youth is too much noise, ignorance and acute buffoonery. you waste 30yrs of ur life trying jamb yet u blame govt, when will you give up and face your talent? when your sponsor retires and you sing to the world you have no privilege? my first employer was a french guy with a competence certificate nothing more yet he paid my bills for years before I came to my senses. blame blame blame! that's wot we are good at, no work at all, today is blaming employer s for their own jobs? gimme a break!. this lousy mindset u have is the reason we have very high rate of unemployment. turn on ur tv what do you see? our youths are watching big brother, maltina dance show, stuupid things, that contribute nada to their wellbeing, they are so poorly informed, once they open their mouths they ooze of emptiness. Nairaland front page is not left out of this anomie im talking about, tonto today celebrity tomorrow. How can you expect good decision from an empty head? 1 Like |
Re: Age Requirement Is Unconstitutional by 1forall: 11:00am On Aug 10, 2013 |
^ Hold up, what's the reason for this unwarranted wave of attacks against others this morning? You can pass your points across without getting cheeky or judgemental. |
Re: Age Requirement Is Unconstitutional by jpphilips(m): 11:26am On Aug 10, 2013 |
sholay2011: those things you call opportunities are abundant for everylife that is God 's promise to us, if he could fend for grasses in the field much less you made in his image. the question is; what did you do with yours? or you want to blame people for your own failure? the Op here is blaming an employer who gave him an opportunity where his govt has failed. 22.5m Nigerians voted this same mess of a govt, yet not ashamed to complain where it has failed, does it make any sense? what goes around comes around. |
Re: Age Requirement Is Unconstitutional by jpphilips(m): 11:32am On Aug 10, 2013 |
ogaju007: if you read that post properly you would have realized that you are missing the point, but that is Nigerian youths for you. |
Re: Age Requirement Is Unconstitutional by sholay2011(m): 12:26pm On Aug 10, 2013 |
jp philips:Hmmmm..... |
Re: Age Requirement Is Unconstitutional by bishopjoe02(m): 2:50pm On Aug 10, 2013 |
jp philips:from your post, i doubt if you are in Nigeria, at what age did you graduate, dont be a kettle that is calling pot black, entreprenuer, hw many of them are making it in Nigeria, were is the funds, not everyone have it all go as your friend, do you knw d cost of USA visa, u nid to wake up and face reality, Nigeria Economy does not encourage private venture, all-else you have someone that will bankroll your idea. |
Re: Age Requirement Is Unconstitutional by yame014: 3:28pm On Aug 10, 2013 |
bishopjoe02: Good one...I was about to raise that observation. The guy probably didn't school in Nigeria and if he did, he probably went to a private university. What Jp phillips should know is that not all Nigerians can afford d tuition in private universities. In my earlier post on this topic, i made mention of someone who finished secondary sch at the age of 17, got admitted into the university (federal) at 19 and graduated at 24 after spending five years with no spill over but due to ASUU strikes. By the time he was mobilised for service, he was already 25 and finished serving at 26+. Now are we going to say he wasted 26yrs of his life schooling? or he didn't make the right choice of school? |
Re: Age Requirement Is Unconstitutional by jpphilips(m): 3:40pm On Aug 10, 2013 |
bishopjoe02: you just spoke like a lazy uninformed youth wallowing in the gallows of ignorance, when you stop watching big brother and take a time off to research on real issues, when you spend weeks online researching global opportunities, then you may see a place or Window to catch in. it is only an empty head that sees the challenges of life, the moment you pre occupy your head with real solutions, you will never have cause to complain. how would you find a way outta Naija's problems when you spend 3months on BBA? how will you know how many people that graduated early when you spend the better part of your life on kalo kalo? look at the world top musicians, most of them start from their church choir as child choristers, our youths after wasting years of their lives on marijuana, dey dash off to the studio to make noise, tear their shirts and call themselves 'stars'. is this life? our youths finished themselves before the govt buried them. 1 Like |
Re: Age Requirement Is Unconstitutional by yame014: 4:09pm On Aug 10, 2013 |
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Re: Age Requirement Is Unconstitutional by jpphilips(m): 4:14pm On Aug 10, 2013 |
yame014: what kind of admission took you 2yrs to secure? do you realize those 2yrs of your life will never comeback? what skill did you acquire within this 2yrs? or you went home to eat mama 'thank ma' in the name of 'waiting for jamb' after which you pounce your self inflicted frustration on PS3? are you aware that some of your mates while waiting for jamb run Microsoft professional certifications where they cant afford it they go to local computer centers to learn basic computer appreciation? how long do you think it takes to learn how to overhaul phones with competence certification?.this same skill your mates at alaba use it to feed their families. how long does it take to be proficient in design? do you know the demand for such skills? even if you dont make money from it, your ability to design your own house will save you a lot of money and wahala in the future. do you know that 60% of Nigerian graduates dont know how to use computers? meanwhile this same people had years with ASUU strikes and jamb, today, they are blaming employers. these designers that have made it big, are they not tailors? how long does it take to learn to make clothes? or you dont know the demand for such? what about event planning? you think they are all big deals? because your ignorant mind spent two yrs at home playing ps3. do you know the demand for making weaves and beads? primivera, SAP are very lucrative applications one can learn in a short period. how many undergraduates are doing it? come to the depot, some undergraduate s are there learning the trade some of them are even praying for ASUU to remain on strike. after now, they have a skill and they look for sponsors, while their mates are feeding fat at home watching pooorn on the internet. why will someone sponsor an empty head without skill? those are the real issues. our youths need to wake up real fast 1 Like |
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