jln115:

Well going by what you said 0 African countries will survive such an attack.

France has Reunion, they can stage attacks from there. What France lacks is good logistics.

darkwan:


this is what happened to gadaffi....

gadaffis libya was not that weak....look how quick they took him out....
i was surprised how quick it went....

libya under gadaffi was not that weak....
but again....i didnt knew how sophisticated all this gadgets have become back then....

you are right....

Dont forget that for gadaffi the NATO use the same old receipe like irak the embargo , libya havnt bought any new weapon during embargo from 1992 to 2003 and even after until 2011 . and khadafi was stupid to not make any big contracts after the embargo was opened directly and was occupied by false diplomatic promise and signed deals with western countries . his equipment was old and many with no maintenance . in 2011 according to source libya had only two operationnal Mirages F1 and mig 21 , mig 23 and oldies . same for its old fixed air defense systems . they received nothing new .

So a receipe used often by NATO for big countries like irak , libya .. They put you under embargo for 20 years and when your weapons are obsolete and you can no longer maintain them . they launch a large coalition attack

Algerian2:


Dont forget that for gadaffi the NATO use the same old receipe like irak the embargo , libya havnt bought any new weapon during embargo from 1992 to 2003 and even after until 2011 . and khadafi was stupid to not make any big contracts after the embargo was opened directly and was occupied by false diplomatic promise and signed deals with western countries . his equipment was old and many with no maintenance . in 2011 according to source libya had only two operationnal Mirages F1 and mig 21 , mig 23 and oldies . same for its old fixed air defense systems . they received nothing new .

So a receipe used often by NATO for big countries like irak , libya .. They put you under embargo for 20 years and when your weapons are obsolete and you can no longer maintain them . they launch a large coalition attack

this is what africans dont understand....europe can plan something against you for 20 years....
they are very patient....

Xbee007:

Don't take any psychoactive drug.
There are no ATM machines within the camp.
Go with mosquito net.
The remaining info is on their website.

Okay
Thanks a lot, I appreciate

Gendarmery show during a french delegation visit , Algeria

Start the videi at 05:00


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Als9JFOVa0k

jln115:


heroine class subs have an endurance of over 50 days

50 days endurance for convention subs ?

Nuclear subs have 60 days endurance ( food reserves , crew fatigue etc )

nemesis8u:


50 days endurance for convention subs ?

Nuclear subs have 60 days endurance ( food reserves , crew fatigue etc )

Exactly

Only difference is Diesel subs need to surface to charge their batteries where as nuclear subs don't need to surface.... But in terms of endurance they are pretty much the same!

Baliv254:
KDF in somalia..
Is that a minigun on the first pic or am i seeing stuff ?

https://twitter.com/kdfinfo/status/1208697889402347522?s=20

Yes. It looks like a 7.62 NATO from what I can see of the barrel in the pic. I thought they had the heavier .50 BMG , though but google shows the KDF is a user.
https://www.militaryfactory.com/smallarms/detail.asp?smallarms_id=243

SANDF SOF. Left R-5, front right AK-47 with M-203 grenade launcher, middle R1/FN-FAL, back SS-77 GPMG

jln115:
Exactly

Only difference is Diesel subs need to surface to charge their batteries where as nuclear subs don't need to surface.... But in terms of endurance they are pretty much the same!

you don't know what u are talking about .....it takes 20 years+ to refuel nuclear submarine, while the it takes 2weeks to refuel a diesel submarine (maximum

PrinxArthur1:
you don't know what u are talking about .....it takes 20 years+ to refuel nuclear submarine, while the it takes 2weeks to refuel a diesel submarine (maximum

SMH....... Go do some research and come back

jln115:

SMH....... Go do some research and come back

you are the one that is suppose to do the research......u know nothing.....imagine having a diesel engine to charge a battery,the diesel runs out,but when it comes to nuclear reactor,the fuel will last in accordance with the life expectancy of the submarine! The only thing that will make a nuclear submarine dock is food supply,ship clinic equipment etc

PrinxArthur1:
you are the one that is suppose to do the research......u know nothing.....imagine having a diesel engine to charge a battery,the diesel runs out,but when it comes to nuclear reactor,the fuel will last in accordance with the life expectancy of the submarine! The only thing that will make a nuclear submarine dock is food supply,ship clinic equipment etc

And? Did I say Diesel subs don't need to be refuelled?

Now let me educate you, as I said before South African Heroine class sub has an edurance of 50 days.... Meaning it only has to refuel and replenish after 50 days, however what I also said is that after a couple of weeks it has to surface to charge its batteries, that doesn't mean it has to go back to base and refuel, batteries need oxygen to recharge hence the need to surface!

Praise be to God!!!!

After much pressure from Nigerians and the US government, the junta led by the regime of Buhari has released Sowore from an illegal detention.

We must fight for a better Nigeria.

kabe1:
Praise be to God!!!!

After much pressure from Nigerians and the US government, the junta led by the regime of Buhari has released Sowore from an illegal detention.

We must fight for a better Nigeria.

Femi Adesina is a toothless bulldog

Wawa....

jln115:
But in terms of endurance they are pretty much the same!

Let's agree to disagree bro

Maybe someday we will discuss if so.

Info

SN heroine class type 209/1400
IN Shishumar class type 209/1500

nemesis8u:


Let's agree to disagree bro

Maybe someday we will discuss if so.

let me just post this and move on

It's seems people have difficulty understanding the difference between endurance and the need to surface to charge batteries

https://www.defenceweb.co.za/resources/fact-files/fact-file-heroine-class-diesel-electric-submarine/

jln115:
let me just post this and move on

It's seems people have difficulty understanding the difference between endurance and the need to surface to charge batteries

https://www.defenceweb.co.za/resources/fact-files/fact-file-heroine-class-diesel-electric-submarine/

Lets move on


Just for the sake of info
I would be interested if u could find a official source for the same. (50 days store)

Ie not a defence website as source

nemesis8u:


Lets move on

But that's a website source

Just for the sake of info
I would be interested if u could find a official source for the same. (50 days store)

Yeah it's not like I have books on type 209 subs so yeah it's a website source

Defenceweb not official enough?

Any here is another source on the Shishumar class

jln115:

Yeah it's not like I have books on type 209 subs so yeah it's a website source

Defenceweb not official enough?

Any here is another source on the Shishumar class

Same as previously, i highly doubt it

Anyways you guys looking to buy / build more submarines ?

Let me share something which is not know except by submariners .

A new torpedo fresh from factory is rarely loaded / fired from a submarine .

Most will disbelief it .

The new factory fresh torpedo warhead section is replaced with exercise / telemetry section and fired atleast 2 times from surface or sub surface launchers before the torpedo is allowed to be loaded into a submarine for active duty

Even though modern torpedoes are safe , this is a safety precaution to judge it's safety by actually firing it more than once

nemesis8u:


Same as previously, i highly doubt it

Anyways you guys looking to buy / build more submarines ?

Not to be rude bro, but if you doubt accredited defence websites like Defenceweb then you should at least have irrefutable facts that at least support why you highly doubt those numbers.

And nope we are stuck with the 3 we got for the foreseeable future!!

jln115:

Not to be rude bro, but if you doubt accredited defence websites like Defenceweb then you should at least have irrefutable facts that at least support why you highly doubt those numbers.

And nope we are stuck with the 3 we got for the foreseeable future!!

Just expressing my opinion , i could be right / i could be wrong.

Never implied defence web is wrong , said i doubt it .

Anyways happy new year to all

nemesis8u:


Just expressing my opinion , i could be right / i could be wrong.

Never implied defence web is wrong , said i doubt it .

Anyways happy new year to all

just wrong in this case bro... And I say this with respect

And happy new year to you to my brother

jln115:
just wrong in this case bro... And I say this with respect

And happy new year to you to my brother

Ok i am wrong

nemesis8u:


Ok i am wrong

Is is cold or hot since SA is in Southern hemisphere ?

it hot..... Summer time!!

nemesis8u:


Ok i am wrong

I know you are just being diplomatic as not to cause a fracas

jln115:
I know you are just being diplomatic as not to cause a fracas

No I am being pragmatic

jln115:
just wrong in this case bro... And I say this with respect

And happy new year to you to my brother

thunda fire you....

I could use some thunda fire
Damn freezing cold

nemesis8u:


No I am being pragmatic

aggg same thing

nemesis8u:
I could use some thunda fire
Damn freezing cold

lol, this comment got me laughing.